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User: ""
Date: 16 Jun 2007 06:22:55 PM
Object: mary vs the passion of the christ
now, capitalism wanted you to think it was a battle between leonardo
da vinci code and passion of the christ but in truth it was between
the latter and mary:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425236/
yet another staggeringly beautiful mooee from abel ferrara, who isn't
very highly rated by the mass, btw:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001206/filmorate
so, once again, three cheer to whoever gives a ***** what the masses
think, for is not the etymology of their word; mass?
.

User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: mary vs the passion of the christ 16 Jun 2007 08:23:06 PM
<sirblob2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182036175.547706.320680@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

now, capitalism wanted you to think it was a battle between leonardo
da vinci code and passion of the christ but in truth it was between
the latter and mary:

I don't give a *****.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
.

User: "Flasherly"

Title: Re: mary vs the passion of the christ 16 Jun 2007 07:58:41 PM
On Jun 16, 7:22 pm,
wrote:

now, capitalism wanted you to think it was a battle between leonardo
da vinci code and passion of the christ but in truth it was between
the latter and mary:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425236/

yet another staggeringly beautiful mooee from abel ferrara, who isn't
very highly rated by the mass, btw:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001206/filmorate

so, once again, three cheer to whoever gives a ***** what the masses
think, for is not the etymology of their word; mass?

Bad Lieutenant I haven't seen, but it was mentioned often enough to me
by someone years ago whenever Reservoir Dogs came up, that I'd
certainly hope note to miss it.
Body Snatchers I've seen.
The Funeral (I suspect) I've seen.
Fear City I've seen.
I'd like to see The Addiction. No wait - it's a split and not a toss-
up, between vampires and sci-fi, along with New Rose Hotel.
Interesting list I'd like to thank you for sharing.
.
User: "Flasherly"

Title: Re: mary vs the passion of the christ 16 Jun 2007 08:21:53 PM
On Jun 16, 8:58 pm, Flasherly <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:

On Jun 16, 7:22 pm,

wrote:

now, capitalism wanted you to think it was a battle between leonardo
da vinci code and passion of the christ but in truth it was between
the latter and mary:


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425236/


yet another staggeringly beautiful mooee from abel ferrara, who isn't
very highly rated by the mass, btw:


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001206/filmorate


so, once again, three cheer to whoever gives a ***** what the masses
think, for is not the etymology of their word; mass?


Bad Lieutenant I haven't seen, but it was mentioned often enough to me
by someone years ago whenever Reservoir Dogs came up, that I'd
certainly hope note to miss it.

Body Snatchers I've seen.

The Funeral (I suspect) I've seen.

Fear City I've seen.

I'd like to see The Addiction. No wait - it's a split and not a toss-
up, between vampires and sci-fi, along with New Rose Hotel.

Interesting list I'd like to thank you for sharing.

Oh - Add The King of New York, also seen that.
Along with China Girl. Seen it.
Mary's, however, looking better.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: mary vs the passion of the christ 17 Jun 2007 07:00:57 AM
On 17 juin, 03:21, Flasherly <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:

On Jun 16, 8:58 pm, Flasherly <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:



On Jun 16, 7:22 pm,

wrote:


now, capitalism wanted you to think it was a battle between leonardo
da vinci code and passion of the christ but in truth it was between
the latter and mary:


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425236/


yet another staggeringly beautiful mooee from abel ferrara, who isn't
very highly rated by the mass, btw:


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001206/filmorate


so, once again, three cheer to whoever gives a ***** what the masses
think, for is not the etymology of their word; mass?


Bad Lieutenant I haven't seen, but it was mentioned often enough to me
by someone years ago whenever Reservoir Dogs came up, that I'd
certainly hope note to miss it.


Body Snatchers I've seen.


The Funeral (I suspect) I've seen.


Fear City I've seen.


I'd like to see The Addiction. No wait - it's a split and not a toss-
up, between vampires and sci-fi, along with New Rose Hotel.


Interesting list I'd like to thank you for sharing.


Oh - Add The King of New York, also seen that.

Along with China Girl. Seen it.

Mary's, however, looking better.

forget the early ones if they're from a bunch of peeps comparing him
with reservoir dogs. watch him as he gets more and more unpopular with
imdb, watch new rose hotel, rxmas and mary, they are simply amazing
.
User: "Flasherly"

Title: Re: Passion of Mary vs Abel's Crises 19 Jun 2007 10:11:22 AM
On Jun 17, 8:00 am,
wrote:


Mary's, however, looking better.


forget the early ones if they're from a bunch of peeps comparing him
with reservoir dogs. watch him as he gets more and more unpopular with
imdb, watch new rose hotel, rxmas and mary, they are simply amazing

Got around to Mary. Not tightly woven, as if the linearity of events
surrounding principle actors is incidental. Although, I do know a lot
can be expected of Forest Whitaker, which is why he holds together the
brunt of Italian film-maker, Abel's 3-sided apex, above Juliette
Binoche and Matthew Modine, in respective order. A movie constructed
in two crises, (the third being an inference of religious
significance, in relating to [that which] objective observer, Forrest,
being second in party, is brought to from as an allusion we later
learn from Juliette. Juliette opens the movie within a movie as
scenes drawn from her real-life portrayal of Mary Magdalene, which
subsequently leads to her to part a direct communion with our Savior,
Jesus Christ, Son of Man. An experience that ultimately drives her
from the film's set, presumably, upon conclusion, of course, to take
up residence in Jerusalem. Back to the third extension of the apex,
Matthew and Juliette's director. Mathews' movie is scripted under the
name -- This is My Blood -- farthest, most distant from misguided
intent a movie director, such as Abel, would have purposely
constructed. The ostensible construct being, issues and crises of
Gibson's ilk from The Passion of Christ. Film-maker Abel's issues, for
the greater brunt are modern essences, drawn from a composure and
resolution at two apparent levels: crises Whitaker faces in his
marriage, Christ's immediacy, in contrast to a crisis portrayed in
Modine's ego -- the faces of crises wrought as an allegorical protest
and outcry of public reactions to Modine's film, greater for a scope
given amplification as dissonance measures in the face of Middle East
tensions.
What emerges is Abel's sole saving grace, inasmuch what he brings to a
film presented, so called Mary. That being Mary. She-and-herself
Mary. Mary as the rightful survivor and lost, 13th apostle. Mary from
a limited conception from woman's role in faith, somehow lost from
scrolls and a hubris of heretical writings.
I'd say Abel had to lose some baggage to pull his latest movie out
from under his sleeve, as if I really believed that. Who best knows,
after all, what crises are placed before us, in turn, for each to come
to grips, as individual unique entities and lives in balance, in each
fading breath drawn to surmise before the final set is drawn. . . .
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Passion of Mary vs Abel's Crises 19 Jun 2007 10:30:12 AM
On 19 juin, 17:11, Flasherly <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:

On Jun 17, 8:00 am,

wrote:



Mary's, however, looking better.


forget the early ones if they're from a bunch of peeps comparing him
with reservoir dogs. watch him as he gets more and more unpopular with
imdb, watch new rose hotel, rxmas and mary, they are simply amazing


Got around to Mary. Not tightly woven, as if the linearity of events
surrounding principle actors is incidental. Although, I do know a lot
can be expected of Forest Whitaker, which is why he holds together the
brunt of Italian film-maker, Abel's 3-sided apex, above Juliette
Binoche and Matthew Modine, in respective order. A movie constructed
in two crises, (the third being an inference of religious
significance, in relating to [that which] objective observer, Forrest,
being second in party, is brought to from as an allusion we later
learn from Juliette. Juliette opens the movie within a movie as
scenes drawn from her real-life portrayal of Mary Magdalene, which
subsequently leads to her to part a direct communion with our Savior,
Jesus Christ, Son of Man. An experience that ultimately drives her
from the film's set, presumably, upon conclusion, of course, to take
up residence in Jerusalem. Back to the third extension of the apex,
Matthew and Juliette's director. Mathews' movie is scripted under the
name -- This is My Blood -- farthest, most distant from misguided
intent a movie director, such as Abel, would have purposely
constructed. The ostensible construct being, issues and crises of
Gibson's ilk from The Passion of Christ. Film-maker Abel's issues, for
the greater brunt are modern essences, drawn from a composure and
resolution at two apparent levels: crises Whitaker faces in his
marriage, Christ's immediacy, in contrast to a crisis portrayed in
Modine's ego -- the faces of crises wrought as an allegorical protest
and outcry of public reactions to Modine's film, greater for a scope
given amplification as dissonance measures in the face of Middle East
tensions.

What emerges is Abel's sole saving grace, inasmuch what he brings to a
film presented, so called Mary. That being Mary. She-and-herself
Mary. Mary as the rightful survivor and lost, 13th apostle. Mary from
a limited conception from woman's role in faith, somehow lost from
scrolls and a hubris of heretical writings.

I'd say Abel had to lose some baggage to pull his latest movie out
from under his sleeve, as if I really believed that. Who best knows,
after all, what crises are placed before us, in turn, for each to come
to grips, as individual unique entities and lives in balance, in each
fading breath drawn to surmise before the final set is drawn. . . .

exactly. very well put. crisis, relativism and a rossellinieque
closing image. why dont you write in this guy's blog:
http://groups.google.fr/group/rec.arts.movies.current-films/browse_frm/thread/0fb4a538d53d26a8/b10ec65cbdf8866b?hl=fr#b10ec65cbdf8866b
here's a deal, if you do, i will.
.
User: "Flasherly"

Title: Re: Passion of Mary vs Abel's Crises 19 Jun 2007 10:43:22 AM
On Jun 19, 11:30 am,
wrote:

On 19 juin, 17:11, Flasherly <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:



On Jun 17, 8:00 am,

wrote:


Mary's, however, looking better.


forget the early ones if they're from a bunch of peeps comparing him
with reservoir dogs. watch him as he gets more and more unpopular with
imdb, watch new rose hotel, rxmas and mary, they are simply amazing


Got around to Mary. Not tightly woven, as if the linearity of events
surrounding principle actors is incidental. Although, I do know a lot
can be expected of Forest Whitaker, which is why he holds together the
brunt of Italian film-maker, Abel's 3-sided apex, above Juliette
Binoche and Matthew Modine, in respective order. A movie constructed
in two crises, (the third being an inference of religious
significance, in relating to [that which] objective observer, Forrest,
being second in party, is brought to from as an allusion we later
learn from Juliette. Juliette opens the movie within a movie as
scenes drawn from her real-life portrayal of Mary Magdalene, which
subsequently leads to her to part a direct communion with our Savior,
Jesus Christ, Son of Man. An experience that ultimately drives her
from the film's set, presumably, upon conclusion, of course, to take
up residence in Jerusalem. Back to the third extension of the apex,
Matthew and Juliette's director. Mathews' movie is scripted under the
name -- This is My Blood -- farthest, most distant from misguided
intent a movie director, such as Abel, would have purposely
constructed. The ostensible construct being, issues and crises of
Gibson's ilk from The Passion of Christ. Film-maker Abel's issues, for
the greater brunt are modern essences, drawn from a composure and
resolution at two apparent levels: crises Whitaker faces in his
marriage, Christ's immediacy, in contrast to a crisis portrayed in
Modine's ego -- the faces of crises wrought as an allegorical protest
and outcry of public reactions to Modine's film, greater for a scope
given amplification as dissonance measures in the face of Middle East
tensions.


What emerges is Abel's sole saving grace, inasmuch what he brings to a
film presented, so called Mary. That being Mary. She-and-herself
Mary. Mary as the rightful survivor and lost, 13th apostle. Mary from
a limited conception from woman's role in faith, somehow lost from
scrolls and a hubris of heretical writings.


I'd say Abel had to lose some baggage to pull his latest movie out
from under his sleeve, as if I really believed that. Who best knows,
after all, what crises are placed before us, in turn, for each to come
to grips, as individual unique entities and lives in balance, in each
fading breath drawn to surmise before the final set is drawn. . . .


exactly. very well put. crisis, relativism and a rossellinieque
closing image. why dont you write in this guy's blog:

http://groups.google.fr/group/rec.arts.movies.current-films/browse_fr...

here's a deal, if you do, i will.

I started to draw from the reviews (the inference to Gibson being the
first and only one, where I stole but stopped), in looking for broader
salience. I'm more a digger, dabbling in others, than a writer.
They're always there, to found out and entertaining, in my at times
not-so-assured existence, these friends formed across time and
distance, in kind words they leave for us.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Passion of Mary vs Abel's Crises 19 Jun 2007 11:39:23 AM
On 19 juin, 17:43, Flasherly <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:

On Jun 19, 11:30 am,

wrote:



On 19 juin, 17:11, Flasherly <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:


On Jun 17, 8:00 am,

wrote:


Mary's, however, looking better.


forget the early ones if they're from a bunch of peeps comparing him
with reservoir dogs. watch him as he gets more and more unpopular with
imdb, watch new rose hotel, rxmas and mary, they are simply amazing


Got around to Mary. Not tightly woven, as if the linearity of events
surrounding principle actors is incidental. Although, I do know a lot
can be expected of Forest Whitaker, which is why he holds together the
brunt of Italian film-maker, Abel's 3-sided apex, above Juliette
Binoche and Matthew Modine, in respective order. A movie constructed
in two crises, (the third being an inference of religious
significance, in relating to [that which] objective observer, Forrest,
being second in party, is brought to from as an allusion we later
learn from Juliette. Juliette opens the movie within a movie as
scenes drawn from her real-life portrayal of Mary Magdalene, which
subsequently leads to her to part a direct communion with our Savior,
Jesus Christ, Son of Man. An experience that ultimately drives her
from the film's set, presumably, upon conclusion, of course, to take
up residence in Jerusalem. Back to the third extension of the apex,
Matthew and Juliette's director. Mathews' movie is scripted under the
name -- This is My Blood -- farthest, most distant from misguided
intent a movie director, such as Abel, would have purposely
constructed. The ostensible construct being, issues and crises of
Gibson's ilk from The Passion of Christ. Film-maker Abel's issues, for
the greater brunt are modern essences, drawn from a composure and
resolution at two apparent levels: crises Whitaker faces in his
marriage, Christ's immediacy, in contrast to a crisis portrayed in
Modine's ego -- the faces of crises wrought as an allegorical protest
and outcry of public reactions to Modine's film, greater for a scope
given amplification as dissonance measures in the face of Middle East
tensions.


What emerges is Abel's sole saving grace, inasmuch what he brings to a
film presented, so called Mary. That being Mary. She-and-herself
Mary. Mary as the rightful survivor and lost, 13th apostle. Mary from
a limited conception from woman's role in faith, somehow lost from
scrolls and a hubris of heretical writings.


I'd say Abel had to lose some baggage to pull his latest movie out
from under his sleeve, as if I really believed that. Who best knows,
after all, what crises are placed before us, in turn, for each to come
to grips, as individual unique entities and lives in balance, in each
fading breath drawn to surmise before the final set is drawn. . . .


exactly. very well put. crisis, relativism and a rossellinieque
closing image. why dont you write in this guy's blog:


http://groups.google.fr/group/rec.arts.movies.current-films/browse_fr...


here's a deal, if you do, i will.


I started to draw from the reviews (the inference to Gibson being the
first and only one, where I stole but stopped), in looking for broader
salience. I'm more a digger, dabbling in others,

precisely why my offer still stands. who cares, just write on a
rigurous weekly basis and see what comes out. i or you might do with a
bit of discipline
than a writer.

They're always there, to found out and entertaining, in my at times
not-so-assured existence, these friends formed across time and
distance, in kind words they leave for us.

.




User: "Flasherly"

Title: Re: mary vs the passion of the christ 17 Jun 2007 11:08:41 AM
On Jun 17, 8:00 am,
wrote:

On 17 juin, 03:21, Flasherly <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:



On Jun 16, 8:58 pm, Flasherly <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:


On Jun 16, 7:22 pm,

wrote:


now, capitalism wanted you to think it was a battle between leonardo
da vinci code and passion of the christ but in truth it was between
the latter and mary:


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425236/


yet another staggeringly beautiful mooee from abel ferrara, who isn't
very highly rated by the mass, btw:


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001206/filmorate


so, once again, three cheer to whoever gives a ***** what the masses
think, for is not the etymology of their word; mass?


Bad Lieutenant I haven't seen, but it was mentioned often enough to me
by someone years ago whenever Reservoir Dogs came up, that I'd
certainly hope note to miss it.


Body Snatchers I've seen.


The Funeral (I suspect) I've seen.


Fear City I've seen.


I'd like to see The Addiction. No wait - it's a split and not a toss-
up, between vampires and sci-fi, along with New Rose Hotel.


Interesting list I'd like to thank you for sharing.


Oh - Add The King of New York, also seen that.


Along with China Girl. Seen it.


Mary's, however, looking better.


forget the early ones if they're from a bunch of peeps comparing him
with reservoir dogs. watch him as he gets more and more unpopular with
imdb, watch new rose hotel, rxmas and mary, they are simply amazing

Last of Keitel movies that were interesting for apart his usual fare,
one he's running around naked in Australia (can't remember what that
was), the other is The Piano -- Bad Lieutenant is filmed also filmed
in the same timeframe, and, once again, he's running around in frontal
nudity (with, hm, Frankie Thorn, aka 'The Nun').
That's what I was figuring, some of this into the acidic end of heavy
spaghetti - Christopher Walken and Keitel written all over him.
I'm hoping The Addiction is going to be an independent and street take
theme. Definitely always in the mood for some alienating sci-fi.
Watched Children of Men last night. Wow - I didn't know they could
get away with the best special effects since Saving Ryan's Privates
while doing things like that to John Lennon.
OK. You got it. 'R Xmas is on. Sure? I mean with D-Ray and Ice-Tee?
.





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