Religions > Atheism > Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption
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08 Dec 2005 12:10:44 AM |
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Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide. Surely no one could expect
a Catholic hospital to participate in an act that it finds morally
repugnant. Thankyou Governor Romney for returning sanity to government.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1313.html
Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts fought a
measure in the state legislature that would have required them to violate
their religious beliefs and distribute the morning after pill, which can
sometimes cause an abortion. However, Gov, Mitt Romney plans to give them an
exemption when the law takes effect next week.
Catholic and other privately run hospitals will not have to provide the Plan
B drugs to rape victims, as the law requires, under regulations the Romney
administration will hand down.
Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the governor supports exempting
Catholic and private hospitals because it "respects the views of health care
facilities that are guided by moral principles on this issue."
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 06:14:31 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide.
That's another lie since Plan B doesn't even cause an abortion.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 11:09:37 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide.
That's another lie since Plan B doesn't even cause an abortion.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
I didn't use the word "abortion", you just did. Are *you* equating abortion
and infanticide?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 11:47:26 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide.
That's another lie since Plan B doesn't even cause an abortion.
I didn't use the word "abortion", you just did.
And do you think that you're clever for stating the blindingly
obvious?
Are *you* equating abortion
and infanticide?
Are you insane, stupid, or both?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
09 Dec 2005 04:06:28 AM |
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On 8 Dec 2005 21:47:26 -0800, (Ray Fischer)
wrote:
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide.
That's another lie since Plan B doesn't even cause an abortion.
I didn't use the word "abortion", you just did.
And do you think that you're clever for stating the blindingly
obvious?
Are *you* equating abortion
and infanticide?
Are you insane, stupid, or both?
Be assured that that is only the very start of the list of his
pathologies.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 11:32:38 PM |
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J Young wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dn9837$kk0$1@bolt.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide.
That's another lie since Plan B doesn't even cause an abortion.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
I didn't use the word "abortion", you just did. Are *you* equating abortion
and infanticide?
No, but you are. Plan B is given to adult women when they have had sex
and for whatever reason fear that they may become pregnant, such as
having a condom burst or from rape. There has never been any
indication that Plan B would be given to any infants, and therefore
could not harm any infants, much less kill them.
And since Plan B cannot even affect a pregnancy, it cannot cause an
abortion. Its purpose is to prevent the pregnancy from starting in the
first place by preventing ovation, fertilization, or implantation,
which ever has not occurred yet. Once implantation has occurred, and
thus the pregnancy has actually started, Plan B has no effect at all.
Perhaps you can explain how you can kill an infant that does not even
exist, and over 9 months before it can possibly exist.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan BExemption |
09 Dec 2005 06:48:15 AM |
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in article hY-dnevgNb29jwTenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 12/9/05 12:09 AM:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dn9837$kk0$1@bolt.sonic.net...
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide.
That's another lie since Plan B doesn't even cause an abortion.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
I didn't use the word "abortion", you just did. Are *you* equating abortion
and infanticide?
If there weren't those things, how would you kill time?
Paul
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| User: "Gaia" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 07:18:10 AM |
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J Young wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide.
You child-fucking, peope-murdering morons should be returned the same
fate you have accorded the people whom you have destroyed.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 12:50:18 AM |
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J Young, each of your postings is an argument in favor of keeping
abortion legal...
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 12:37:59 PM |
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:10:44 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<voednde6Nf1qUwrenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide. Surely no one could expect
a Catholic hospital to participate in an act that it finds morally
repugnant. Thankyou Governor Romney for returning sanity to government.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1313.html
Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts fought a
measure in the state legislature that would have required them to violate
their religious beliefs and distribute the morning after pill, which can
sometimes cause an abortion. However, Gov, Mitt Romney plans to give them an
exemption when the law takes effect next week.
Catholic and other privately run hospitals will not have to provide the Plan
B drugs to rape victims, as the law requires, under regulations the Romney
administration will hand down.
Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the governor supports exempting
Catholic and private hospitals because it "respects the views of health care
facilities that are guided by moral principles on this issue."
Not one cent of public money, including Medicare and Medicaid, should
go to such institutions under any conditions.
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| User: "Frank Arthur" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 02:19:21 PM |
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"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:lavgp1tg3s84fqeaodjdip34f80lto3tlm@4ax.com...
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:10:44 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<voednde6Nf1qUwrenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide. Surely no one could
expect
a Catholic hospital to participate in an act that it finds morally
repugnant. Thankyou Governor Romney for returning sanity to government.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1313.html
Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts fought a
measure in the state legislature that would have required them to violate
their religious beliefs and distribute the morning after pill, which can
sometimes cause an abortion. However, Gov, Mitt Romney plans to give them
an
exemption when the law takes effect next week.
Catholic and other privately run hospitals will not have to provide the
Plan
B drugs to rape victims, as the law requires, under regulations the Romney
administration will hand down.
Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the governor supports exempting
Catholic and private hospitals because it "respects the views of health
care
facilities that are guided by moral principles on this issue."
Not one cent of public money, including Medicare and Medicaid, should
go to such institutions under any conditions.
Why? Because YOUR beliefs should overide other American people?
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| User: "Attila" |
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09 Dec 2005 04:51:49 AM |
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:19:21 -0500, "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<%w0mf.25070$Pc3.10628@bignews5.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:lavgp1tg3s84fqeaodjdip34f80lto3tlm@4ax.com...
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:10:44 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<voednde6Nf1qUwrenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide. Surely no one could
expect
a Catholic hospital to participate in an act that it finds morally
repugnant. Thankyou Governor Romney for returning sanity to government.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1313.html
Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts fought a
measure in the state legislature that would have required them to violate
their religious beliefs and distribute the morning after pill, which can
sometimes cause an abortion. However, Gov, Mitt Romney plans to give them
an
exemption when the law takes effect next week.
Catholic and other privately run hospitals will not have to provide the
Plan
B drugs to rape victims, as the law requires, under regulations the Romney
administration will hand down.
Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the governor supports exempting
Catholic and private hospitals because it "respects the views of health
care
facilities that are guided by moral principles on this issue."
Not one cent of public money, including Medicare and Medicaid, should
go to such institutions under any conditions.
Why? Because YOUR beliefs should overide other American people?
No, because such a policy would be in line with the Constitutional
requirement that no religious influence is allowed in any part of
government.
Of course, thins like this are expected from the Peoples Republic of
Massachusetts.
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| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 02:35:34 PM |
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:19:21 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "Frank
Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:lavgp1tg3s84fqeaodjdip34f80lto3tlm@4ax.com...
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:10:44 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<voednde6Nf1qUwrenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide. Surely no one could
expect
a Catholic hospital to participate in an act that it finds morally
repugnant. Thankyou Governor Romney for returning sanity to government.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1313.html
Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts fought a
measure in the state legislature that would have required them to violate
their religious beliefs and distribute the morning after pill, which can
sometimes cause an abortion. However, Gov, Mitt Romney plans to give them
an
exemption when the law takes effect next week.
Catholic and other privately run hospitals will not have to provide the
Plan
B drugs to rape victims, as the law requires, under regulations the Romney
administration will hand down.
Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the governor supports exempting
Catholic and private hospitals because it "respects the views of health
care
facilities that are guided by moral principles on this issue."
Not one cent of public money, including Medicare and Medicaid, should
go to such institutions under any conditions.
Why? Because YOUR beliefs should overide other American people?
I wonder how loud these assloaves will squeal when (not if) one of
their female relatives gets raped and they can't get the morning after
pill.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 02:58:29 PM |
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Bonnie ***** wrote:
I wonder how loud these assloaves will squeal when (not if) one of
their female relatives gets raped and they can't get the morning after
pill.
They won't squeal. Rather, they will rejoice that God has seen fit that their
female relatives should conceive and bear life. After all...
/cue "Every Sperm is Sacred"
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[W]e have never held that moral disapproval, without any other asserted
state interest, is a sufficient rationale under the Equal Protection
Clause to justify a law that discriminates among groups of persons."
- Sandra Day O`Conner, _Lawrence v Texas_
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=000&invol=02-102
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| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
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08 Dec 2005 03:48:29 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:58:29 -0800, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Gregory
Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
Bonnie ***** wrote:
I wonder how loud these assloaves will squeal when (not if) one of
their female relatives gets raped and they can't get the morning after
pill.
They won't squeal. Rather, they will rejoice that God has seen fit that their
female relatives should conceive and bear life. After all...
/cue "Every Sperm is Sacred"
.... until they find out that the baby isn't lily white, like them....
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 02:36:59 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 13:37:59 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:10:44 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<voednde6Nf1qUwrenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide. Surely no one could expect
a Catholic hospital to participate in an act that it finds morally
repugnant. Thankyou Governor Romney for returning sanity to government.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1313.html
Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts fought a
measure in the state legislature that would have required them to violate
their religious beliefs and distribute the morning after pill, which can
sometimes cause an abortion. However, Gov, Mitt Romney plans to give them an
exemption when the law takes effect next week.
Catholic and other privately run hospitals will not have to provide the Plan
B drugs to rape victims, as the law requires, under regulations the Romney
administration will hand down.
Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the governor supports exempting
Catholic and private hospitals because it "respects the views of health care
facilities that are guided by moral principles on this issue."
Not one cent of public money, including Medicare and Medicaid, should
go to such institutions under any conditions.
I agree. There are places where the local Catholic hospital has taken
over the hospital which would have provided it, which now no longer
does.
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| User: "Attila" |
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09 Dec 2005 04:52:48 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:36:59 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> in alt.abortion with message-id
<106hp1119ha9ph8u79hg28g7iuqposa0lh@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 13:37:59 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:10:44 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<voednde6Nf1qUwrenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide. Surely no one could expect
a Catholic hospital to participate in an act that it finds morally
repugnant. Thankyou Governor Romney for returning sanity to government.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1313.html
Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts fought a
measure in the state legislature that would have required them to violate
their religious beliefs and distribute the morning after pill, which can
sometimes cause an abortion. However, Gov, Mitt Romney plans to give them an
exemption when the law takes effect next week.
Catholic and other privately run hospitals will not have to provide the Plan
B drugs to rape victims, as the law requires, under regulations the Romney
administration will hand down.
Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the governor supports exempting
Catholic and private hospitals because it "respects the views of health care
facilities that are guided by moral principles on this issue."
Not one cent of public money, including Medicare and Medicaid, should
go to such institutions under any conditions.
I agree. There are places where the local Catholic hospital has taken
over the hospital which would have provided it, which now no longer
does.
That is not uncommon. And should be illegal.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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08 Dec 2005 07:01:43 AM |
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:10:44 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide. Surely no one could expect
a Catholic hospital to participate in an act that it finds morally
repugnant. Thankyou Governor Romney for returning sanity to government.
But only to a Catholic, moron. If you don't like it, don't use it. But
who the ***** are you and your church to decide somebody else's
conscience for them?
You sociopaths and psychopaths need to realise that your doctrines
only apply to Catholics - and then only those who choose to accept
them.
It's attitudes like Romney's that led to suicides of pregnant East
Pakistani women after West Pakistan's policy of rape-until-pregnant
during the civil war, after she had volunteered to the UN to help them
but imposed the Vatican line instead - on women who weren't ebven
Catholic.
And lead to AIDS becoming endemic in sub-Saharan Africa and other
areas due to its aggresive anti-condom campaigns, again to
non-Catholics.
It's disgusting and psychopathic.
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| User: "Frank Arthur" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan B Exemption |
08 Dec 2005 07:11:05 AM |
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What is repugnant is some fascist ayatollah, prince, fake
Christian, Priest or president decide which American citizen
may or may not control their own sex lives, pregnacies or
birth control practices.
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:voednde6Nf1qUwrenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide. Surely no one could
expect
a Catholic hospital to participate in an act that it finds morally
repugnant. Thankyou Governor Romney for returning sanity to government.
Printed from: http://www.lifenews.com/state1313.html
Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts fought a
measure in the state legislature that would have required them to violate
their religious beliefs and distribute the morning after pill, which can
sometimes cause an abortion. However, Gov, Mitt Romney plans to give them
an
exemption when the law takes effect next week.
Catholic and other privately run hospitals will not have to provide the
Plan
B drugs to rape victims, as the law requires, under regulations the Romney
administration will hand down.
Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the governor supports exempting
Catholic and private hospitals because it "respects the views of health
care
facilities that are guided by moral principles on this issue."
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Massachusetts Governor to Allow Catholic Hospitals Plan BExemption |
08 Dec 2005 02:00:40 AM |
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in article voednde6Nf1qUwrenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 12/8/05 1:10 AM:
To the RCC, Plan B drugs are akin to infanticide. Surely no one could expect
a Catholic hospital to participate in an act that it finds morally
repugnant. Thankyou Governor Romney for returning sanity to government.
And in return, J will vote for him if he DOES get the GOP nod in
2008...
Paul
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