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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "K C"
Date: 10 May 2004 09:55:47 AM
Object: Matrix and Origins
I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
Christian fundamentalists for saying the following statement in their
commercials...
"Everything with an ending must have a beginning..."
It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
creators Christian?
http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html
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User: "Chris Krolczyk"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins 10 May 2004 04:39:45 PM
(K C) wrote in message news:<e88a6c8b.0405100701.d7ce982@posting.google.com>...

I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
Christian fundamentalists

You really should update your movie-referencing boilerplate. It's
time for the kooks to start referencing _Van Helsing_, if its
weekend box-office take is any indication.
(Two ngs snipped for obvious reasons)
-Chris Krolczyk
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User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins 17 May 2004 05:15:26 PM
In article <e88a6c8b.0405100701.d7ce982@posting.google.com>
(K C) writes:
<I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
<Christian fundamentalists for saying the following statement in their
<commercials...
<
<"Everything with an ending must have a beginning..."
<
<It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
<Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
<dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
<creators Christian?
<
Sure. Just like everyone who's ever said "in my mind's eye" or
"dead as a doornail" or "in the twinkling of an eye" therefore
has to be Shakespeare.
[incidentally, perhaps you'll share with us where you got the silly
idea that standard cosmology claims that the universe had no beginning?]
-- cary
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User: "Mark VandeWettering"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins 10 May 2004 12:05:50 PM
In article <e88a6c8b.0405100701.d7ce982@posting.google.com>, K C wrote:

I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
Christian fundamentalists for saying the following statement in their
commercials...

"Everything with an ending must have a beginning..."

The silly thing about this argument is that they routinely follow this
universal statement with a single exception which rather begs the question.
Mark


It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
creators Christian?

http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html

.

User: "Thomas H. Faller"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins 10 May 2004 10:50:29 AM
K C wrote:

I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
Christian fundamentalists for saying the following statement in their
commercials...

"Everything with an ending must have a beginning..."

It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
creators Christian?

http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html

And everything with a middle must have a middle...
Try diving in the deep end next time. Your head will thank you.
Tom Faller
.
User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins of Pi(e) 10 May 2004 05:05:07 PM
On Mon, 10 May 2004 10:50:29 -0500, Thomas H. Faller wrote
(in article <409FA5F7.56CD28D6@sgi.com>):

K C wrote:

I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
Christian fundamentalists for saying the following statement in their
commercials...

"Everything with an ending must have a beginning..."

It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
creators Christian?

http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html


And everything with a middle must have a middle...
Try diving in the deep end next time. Your head will thank you.

Tom Faller


And if a = b
And b = c
Then you can have lemon meringue pie if it's Tuesday.
Gray
.
User: "Jez"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins of Pi(e) 11 May 2004 02:03:17 PM
"Gray Shockley" <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote in message
news:e7OdnYdjSrlnYALdRVn-vg@giganews.com...

On Mon, 10 May 2004 10:50:29 -0500, Thomas H. Faller wrote
(in article <409FA5F7.56CD28D6@sgi.com>):

K C wrote:

I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
Christian fundamentalists for saying the following statement in their
commercials...

"Everything with an ending must have a beginning..."

It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
creators Christian?

http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html


And everything with a middle must have a middle...
Try diving in the deep end next time. Your head will thank you.

Tom Faller



And if a = b

And b = c

Then you can have lemon meringue pie if it's Tuesday.

Ahhhh ! It's so simple when explained by an expert !!
:)
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
.



User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins 10 May 2004 04:40:27 PM
On Mon, 10 May 2004 09:55:47 -0500, K C wrote
(in article <e88a6c8b.0405100701.d7ce982@posting.google.com>):

I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
Christian fundamentalists for saying the following statement in their
commercials...

"Everything with an ending must have a beginning..."

It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
creators Christian?

No. Everything you stated above is silly.
Is your "Word of the Day", by any chance, "relevant"?
Gray Shockley
-----------------------------------------
Don't Change Horsemen in
the Middle of an Apocalypse.
- Mrs. Betty Bowers
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User: "AC"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins 10 May 2004 10:15:47 AM
On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:55:47 +0000 (UTC),
K C <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote:

I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
Christian fundamentalists for saying the following statement in their
commercials...

"Everything with an ending must have a beginning..."

It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
creators Christian?

http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html

I find it wise not to base or try to prop-up world views based on movies.
--
Aaron Clausen
mightymartianca@hotmail.com
.
User: "Mark VandeWettering"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins 10 May 2004 12:06:50 PM
In article <slrnc9v7gf.1c4.mightymartianca@alder.alberni.net>, AC wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:55:47 +0000 (UTC),
K C <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote:

I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
Christian fundamentalists for saying the following statement in their
commercials...

"Everything with an ending must have a beginning..."

It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
creators Christian?

http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html


I find it wise not to base or try to prop-up world views based on movies.

Or books, especially long anthologies of questionable provenance.
.


User: "Puck Greenman"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins 11 May 2004 04:51:41 PM
On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:55:47 +0000 (UTC),
(K C)
wrote:

I guess, according to the anti-religious, the Matrix is a bunch of
Christian fundamentalists for saying the following statement in their
commercials...

"Everything with an ending must have a beginning..."

It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
creators Christian?

No, it just points out that xtianity is about as realistic as the
Matrix.
Puck Greenman
#162
BAAWA Knight.
.

User: "Louann Miller"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins 10 May 2004 11:08:15 AM
On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:55:47 +0000 (UTC),
(K C)
wrote:

It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
creators Christian?

http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html

If you want the "Matrix" script writers on your side, dude, you can
_have_ them. With my compliments. I think you're making a big mistake,
though.
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Matrix and Origins 18 May 2004 08:13:31 PM
In article <peav9019ahf3h394jkbn0c17ft7vraf94e@4ax.com>
writes:
<On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:55:47 +0000 (UTC),
(K C)
<wrote:
<
<>It is being used to advertise the first Matrix movie. However, when a
<>Christian uses this reasoning to point to a Creator, it is routinely
<>dimissed as christian propaganda. Does that make the Matrix's
<>creators Christian?
<>
<>http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html
<
<If you want the "Matrix" script writers on your side, dude, you can
<_have_ them. With my compliments. I think you're making a big mistake,
<though.
<
<
Heh!
Hi, Louann! Long time, no chortle.
-- cary
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