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"dgillesp" |
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21 Nov 2005 05:14:20 PM |
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Maybe it will just go away |
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence. A common one I remember from my teens years back in
the 40's. It was in a comic book whose main character was a young
teenager. "Marblehead" wakes up early one morning with a new and
disturbing question assailing his mind. He hurriedly dresses, rushes
downstairs to the kitchen where his mother is serenely serving the
morning coffee as she always had done for almost as long as she could
remember. Marblehead's father is sitting at the kitchen table absorbed
in the daily paper--just as always every morning from time immemorial.
Marblehead bursts into the kitchen and bellows out his urgent, crucial
query: "Mom! Dad! What is the meaning of life???" Mom, mouth agape,
drops a cup of freshly poured coffee crashing to the floor. Dad holding
the paper in both hands involuntarily reacts with a jerk and rips the
paper right down the middle.
In the stunned silence that followed, Mom busies herself with cleaning
up splattered coffee and broken pieces of the cup. Dad settles himself
back to normal as best he can, and finally makes makes his reply. "Son
don't you ever ask that question again!"
--
Denny
"There cannot be a God because, If there were one, I would
not believe that I were not He." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Maybe it will just go away |
22 Nov 2005 08:36:01 AM |
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"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:438254CC.15E4F557@nospam.net...
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
I'm sorry you feel that existence is ultimately meaningless. Bummer!
Maybe you need to get a hobby?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Maybe it will just go away |
23 Nov 2005 01:40:09 AM |
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In article <3ugokpF114f05U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:438254CC.15E4F557@nospam.net...
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
I'm sorry you feel that existence is ultimately meaningless. Bummer!
Maybe you need to get a hobby?
Or get a girlfriend.
On second thought, forget about that one.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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23 Nov 2005 08:52:37 AM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-0AD552.23400922112005@news.giganews.com...
In article <3ugokpF114f05U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:438254CC.15E4F557@nospam.net...
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
I'm sorry you feel that existence is ultimately meaningless. Bummer!
Maybe you need to get a hobby?
Or get a girlfriend.
On second thought, forget about that one.
URK! ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "johac" |
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24 Nov 2005 12:19:50 AM |
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In article <3ujdvtF11lprpU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-0AD552.23400922112005@news.giganews.com...
In article <3ugokpF114f05U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:438254CC.15E4F557@nospam.net...
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
I'm sorry you feel that existence is ultimately meaningless. Bummer!
Maybe you need to get a hobby?
Or get a girlfriend.
On second thought, forget about that one.
URK! ;)
The image is disturbing.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Maybe it will just go away |
23 Nov 2005 01:08:52 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:52:37 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-0AD552.23400922112005@news.giganews.com...
In article <3ugokpF114f05U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:438254CC.15E4F557@nospam.net...
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
I'm sorry you feel that existence is ultimately meaningless. Bummer!
Maybe you need to get a hobby?
Or get a girlfriend.
On second thought, forget about that one.
URK! ;)
Denny's indicated he and his wife have been married over 50 years and
have several children.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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23 Nov 2005 01:37:26 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:52:37 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-0AD552.23400922112005@news.giganews.com...
In article <3ugokpF114f05U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:438254CC.15E4F557@nospam.net...
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
I'm sorry you feel that existence is ultimately meaningless. Bummer!
Maybe you need to get a hobby?
Or get a girlfriend.
On second thought, forget about that one.
URK! ;)
Denny's indicated he and his wife have been married over 50 years and
have several children.
Weeeeeellll, then he needs to get a hobby ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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23 Nov 2005 02:14:54 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
Denny's indicated he and his wife have been married over 50 years and
have several children.
Weeeeeellll, then he needs to get a hobby ;)
Posting on this NG is a bit of a hobby, don't you think?
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Denny
"There cannot be a God because, If there were one, I would
not believe that I were not He." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "Jericho" |
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23 Nov 2005 01:41:18 PM |
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Denny's indicated he and his wife have been married over 50 years and have several children.
Well that explains why he feels his existence is ultimately
meaningless. :-)
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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23 Nov 2005 02:29:20 PM |
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Jericho wrote:
Denny's indicated he and his wife have been married over 50 years and have several children.
Well that explains why he feels his existence is ultimately
meaningless. :-)
Au contraire, my good man. I posited what I understand to be the
atheist viewpoint that there is no _ultimate_ meaning to existence, and
went on to allegorize how most non-religious folk appear to deal with
it.
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Denny
"There cannot be a God because, If there were one, I would
not believe that I were not He." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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23 Nov 2005 08:07:05 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
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I posited what I understand ...
< chuckle! > Straw Man Alert !!
... to be the
atheist viewpoint that there is no _ultimate_ meaning to existence, ...
Existence CANNOT be "ultimately meaningless", and I challenge you to
show otherwise.
... and
went on to allegorize how most non-religious folk appear to deal with
it.
Pure speculation. Have you received even ONE such response here?
Regards,
Josef
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning
to others.
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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28 Nov 2005 04:18:32 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, Josef Balluch poured fuel on the
fire with the following:
In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
....
... to be the
atheist viewpoint that there is no _ultimate_ meaning to existence, ...
Existence CANNOT be "ultimately meaningless", and I challenge you to
show otherwise.
No response, Denny?
... and
went on to allegorize how most non-religious folk appear to deal with
it.
Pure speculation. Have you received even ONE such response here?
No response, Denny?
Regards,
Josef
Faith is often the boast of the man who is too lazy to investigate.
-- F. M. Knowles
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| User: "stoney" |
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30 Nov 2005 09:47:44 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:18:32 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, Josef Balluch poured fuel on the
fire with the following:
In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
... to be the
atheist viewpoint that there is no _ultimate_ meaning to existence, ...
Existence CANNOT be "ultimately meaningless", and I challenge you to
show otherwise.
No response, Denny?
... and
went on to allegorize how most non-religious folk appear to deal with
it.
Pure speculation. Have you received even ONE such response here?
No response, Denny?
(laughter)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "stoney" |
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24 Nov 2005 10:26:54 AM |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:29:20 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
Jericho wrote:
Denny's indicated he and his wife have been married over 50 years and have several children.
Well that explains why he feels his existence is ultimately
meaningless. :-)
Au contraire, my good man. I posited what I understand to be the
atheist viewpoint that there is no _ultimate_ meaning to existence, and
went on to allegorize how most non-religious folk appear to deal with
it.
IOW, you posted meaningless droolings. That's normal. You don't
understand a damn thing because you're too busy not listening. Don't
worry, Denny, Jesus will be lovingly torturing you for eternity
*soon.* Rejoyce oh ignorant slave as you are commanded.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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21 Nov 2005 10:23:29 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
It's too bad that your existence is "ultimately meaningless", Denny, but
that's the price you pay when you are subservient to a myth.
....
Regards,
Josef
All religion, however, is nothing but the fantastic reflection in men's
minds of those external forces which control their daily life, a
reflection in which the terrestrial forces assume the form of
supernatural forces.
-- Frederick Engels
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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22 Nov 2005 10:03:09 AM |
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In article <438254CC.15E4F557@nospam.net>, dgillesp
<dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote:
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence. A common one I remember from my teens years back in
the 40's. It was in a comic book whose main character was a young
teenager. "Marblehead" wakes up early one morning with a new and
disturbing question assailing his mind. He hurriedly dresses, rushes
downstairs to the kitchen where his mother is serenely serving the
morning coffee as she always had done for almost as long as she could
remember. Marblehead's father is sitting at the kitchen table absorbed
in the daily paper--just as always every morning from time immemorial.
Marblehead bursts into the kitchen and bellows out his urgent, crucial
query: "Mom! Dad! What is the meaning of life???" Mom, mouth agape,
drops a cup of freshly poured coffee crashing to the floor. Dad holding
the paper in both hands involuntarily reacts with a jerk and rips the
paper right down the middle.
In the stunned silence that followed, Mom busies herself with cleaning
up splattered coffee and broken pieces of the cup. Dad settles himself
back to normal as best he can, and finally makes makes his reply. "Son
don't you ever ask that question again!"
Heh.
Most of the people in this group won't see the humor in that, but I do.
While I'm not quite old enough to remember Marblehead, I recall getting
much the same reaction from my parents when I asked similar questions.
Although they tried to answer them, they were clearly uncomfortable
doing so.
I think, however, that after many years of asking that question, and at
varous times feeling dead certain I had the answer (metaphysical: the
search for ultimate truth; hedonistic: the search for perfect
happiness; biological: the production of viable offspring, and
whimsical: "42"), I have finally been forced to conclude that there is
no ultimate meaning and that it is futile to ascribe to our species a
quality that does not exist.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "stoney" |
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22 Nov 2005 07:07:23 PM |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:14:20 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
Poor poor deluded sot. No wonder you're superstitious.
[]
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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21 Nov 2005 06:22:26 PM |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:14:20 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence. A common one I remember from my teens years back in
the 40's. It was in a comic book whose main character was a young
teenager. "Marblehead" wakes up early one morning with a new and
disturbing question assailing his mind. He hurriedly dresses, rushes
downstairs to the kitchen where his mother is serenely serving the
morning coffee as she always had done for almost as long as she could
remember. Marblehead's father is sitting at the kitchen table absorbed
in the daily paper--just as always every morning from time immemorial.
Marblehead bursts into the kitchen and bellows out his urgent, crucial
query: "Mom! Dad! What is the meaning of life???" Mom, mouth agape,
drops a cup of freshly poured coffee crashing to the floor. Dad holding
the paper in both hands involuntarily reacts with a jerk and rips the
paper right down the middle.
In the stunned silence that followed, Mom busies herself with cleaning
up splattered coffee and broken pieces of the cup. Dad settles himself
back to normal as best he can, and finally makes makes his reply. "Son
don't you ever ask that question again!"
Religion is merely a slightly less direct route to sweeping the
question under the ontological carpet.
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| User: "Jim07D5" |
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21 Nov 2005 06:59:10 PM |
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dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> said:
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence. A common one I remember from my teens years back in
the 40's. It was in a comic book whose main character was a young
teenager. "Marblehead" wakes up early one morning with a new and
disturbing question assailing his mind. He hurriedly dresses, rushes
downstairs to the kitchen where his mother is serenely serving the
morning coffee as she always had done for almost as long as she could
remember. Marblehead's father is sitting at the kitchen table absorbed
in the daily paper--just as always every morning from time immemorial.
Marblehead bursts into the kitchen and bellows out his urgent, crucial
query: "Mom! Dad! What is the meaning of life???" Mom, mouth agape,
drops a cup of freshly poured coffee crashing to the floor. Dad holding
the paper in both hands involuntarily reacts with a jerk and rips the
paper right down the middle.
In the stunned silence that followed, Mom busies herself with cleaning
up splattered coffee and broken pieces of the cup. Dad settles himself
back to normal as best he can, and finally makes makes his reply. "Son
don't you ever ask that question again!"
I'm not buying the existence of Marblehead.
--- Jim07D5
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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21 Nov 2005 06:21:06 PM |
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dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in news:438254CC.15E4F557@nospam.net:
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
Find something meaningful and do it.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"There is joy in rationality, happiness in clarity of mind. Free thought is
thrilling and fulfilling--absolutely essential to mental health and
happiness."
-Dan Barker
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| User: "Katt" |
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21 Nov 2005 07:16:36 PM |
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9715A6647236F255229@130.133.1.4...
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in news:438254CC.15E4F557@nospam.net:
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
Find something meaningful and do it.
Or *be* it: "the Superman shall be the meaning of the Earth"...
Zarath... I mean, Katt.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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22 Nov 2005 05:38:10 PM |
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns9715A6647236F255229@130.133.1.4:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in
news:438254CC.15E4F557@nospam.net:
There are various ways to cope with the ultimate meaninglessness of
human existence.
Find something meaningful and do it.
....or find someone meaningful and do her! *cheesy grin*
--
Doc Smartass XP - New Interface, Same Old *****
Brought to you by...
The Catholic Church. No, we don't like gays.
But if you're a pedo, you're PRIEST material!!
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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21 Nov 2005 08:53:39 PM |
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dgillesp wrote:
Marblehead bursts into the kitchen and bellows out his urgent, crucial
query: "Mom! Dad! What is the meaning of life???" Mom, mouth agape,
drops a cup of freshly poured coffee crashing to the floor. Dad holding
the paper in both hands involuntarily reacts with a jerk and rips the
paper right down the middle.
in our house if that question were asked that way, there would be a
chorus of "42!"
Jim
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