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"Thurston Phoremost" |
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17 Oct 2003 03:01:10 AM |
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Maybe these Xtians are useful after all? |
Department of Credit Where Credit Due Dept?
http://www.gospelcom.net/moh/WinkPrat/DTM/ContractOnChildrenPart2.htm
(...)
Yet a protected childhood is a relatively new thing, introduced by
Christian reformers. Only a century ago, children in England were made
to work in coal mines because they were considered the only ones with
bones flexible enough for the horrifying conditions. Imagine the
terror of their days in the mine shafts.
Human Flesh Was Cheaper
The simplest job was being a "trapper." A child was lowered 50 feet
down a shaft to squat in the mud in total darkness with trickling
water, beetles, and rats, waiting to open the trap door for other
children pulling coal cars. He would let the coal through and then
close the trap door again. That way, if there was a mine explosion, it
only killed the children between the doors. The trap doors cut off the
exploding gas from spreading further. Little children, seven or eight
years old, would sit in the dark every day, sometimes 18 to 20 hours,
listening for the coal cars. Some went insane. Yet in the mines, that
was the best job.
The children suffered terrible cruelty at the hands of adults, who
bargained for them, used them, and dismissed them as they pleased.
Many working underground were only eight or nine years old, girls as
well as boys. Some began toiling in the pits when they were only four
or five. They only saw the sun on Sundays. There were no hours of
relaxation, their meals were mostly eaten in the dark, and they lived
with parents who devoted them to this life.
Think about the actual pulling of the coal cars. Women or small
children had to crawl on their hands and knees dragging enormous
weights along narrow passageways that were only 18 to 24 inches in
height, and were as wet and slimy as common sewers. Women remained at
this work until the last hour of pregnancy. Boys and girls performed
the work by using a girdle and chain. A girdle was put around their
naked waist. A chain from the carriage was hooked to the girdle and
passed between their legs. Crawling on hands and knees they drew the
carriages after them.
"It is not necessary to describe," says Shaftesbury, the Christian
politician who fought against this horror for most of his life, "how
their sides were blistered, their ankles stained, their backs chafed
from rubbing against the roofs, or how they stumbled in the darkness
and choked in the stifling atmosphere. It is enough to say they were
obliged to do the work of horses or other beasts of the field, only
because human flesh and blood was cheaper in some cases and horse
labor was impossible in others."
(...)
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09 Nov 2003 05:43:13 PM |
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Waldo wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:2sssqv4cf7bbui2ervvs3c1bk0f32451oq@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:33:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:14:28 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
You most emphatically do not speak for me.
I was referring to true gentiles, not shabbos goys like you.
What on Earth is a "shabbos goy"?
Jewish law forbids Jews from "working" on shabbos (Sabbath - from sundown
Friday to sundown Saturday), forbidden "work" would include mundane chores
such as lighting fires, so the Jews would hire Goys (a derogatory term for
non-Jews) to perform such mundane tasks for them on the shabbos.
In modern usage, a "shabbos goy" is a pawn of the Jews - a Kosher
*****-kisser.
Waldo, how many times do I have to trounce you for you to stay trounced?
You are an embarrassment
to the species, and once the chimps heard about you they reconsidered
this whole reclassification from Pan to Homo thing.
You, sir, are wasting my oxygen.
And you, sir, may blow it out your shabbos goy *****.
No idea what you are talking about. But if you are trying to somehow
insinuate that I'm Jwish, or have been, you are quite wrong.
If you had been born Jewish, you would die Jewish. It's not something you
can opt out of.
Former
Catholic, been an atheist since I was about 12.
I note here that you refer to yourself as an atheist and "former Catholic".
This is correct, as obviously one could not be *both* Catholic and atheist
simultaneously.
Interestingly, one CAN be both Jewish and athiest at the same time.
Think about it.
That's having a Jewish mother is sufficient to be Jewish, personal
beliefs notwithstanding.
**
Waldo
Observer at Large
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| User: "Waldo" |
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09 Nov 2003 06:33:00 PM |
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"Sheldon Liberman" <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FAED111.1000105@sympatico.ca...
Waldo wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:2sssqv4cf7bbui2ervvs3c1bk0f32451oq@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:33:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:14:28 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
You most emphatically do not speak for me.
I was referring to true gentiles, not shabbos goys like you.
What on Earth is a "shabbos goy"?
Jewish law forbids Jews from "working" on shabbos (Sabbath - from
sundown
Friday to sundown Saturday), forbidden "work" would include mundane
chores
such as lighting fires, so the Jews would hire Goys (a derogatory term
for
non-Jews) to perform such mundane tasks for them on the shabbos.
In modern usage, a "shabbos goy" is a pawn of the Jews - a Kosher
*****-kisser.
Waldo, how many times do I have to trounce you for you to stay trounced?
That's a funny thing to say, Sheldon - especially considering that you
don't take issue with a single word I've said in this post.
You are an embarrassment
to the species, and once the chimps heard about you they reconsidered
this whole reclassification from Pan to Homo thing.
You, sir, are wasting my oxygen.
And you, sir, may blow it out your shabbos goy *****.
No idea what you are talking about. But if you are trying to somehow
insinuate that I'm Jwish, or have been, you are quite wrong.
If you had been born Jewish, you would die Jewish. It's not something
you
can opt out of.
Former
Catholic, been an atheist since I was about 12.
I note here that you refer to yourself as an atheist and "former
Catholic".
This is correct, as obviously one could not be *both* Catholic and
atheist
simultaneously.
Interestingly, one CAN be both Jewish and athiest at the same time.
Think about it.
That's having a Jewish mother is sufficient to be Jewish, personal
beliefs notwithstanding.
See? You agree with me.
But be careful, lest Steve Wolk accuse you of subscribing to "the Hitlerian
belief".
LOL!
**
Waldo
Observer at Large
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
09 Nov 2003 08:26:30 PM |
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Waldo wrote:
"Sheldon Liberman" <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FAED111.1000105@sympatico.ca...
Waldo wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:2sssqv4cf7bbui2ervvs3c1bk0f32451oq@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:33:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:14:28 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
You most emphatically do not speak for me.
I was referring to true gentiles, not shabbos goys like you.
What on Earth is a "shabbos goy"?
Jewish law forbids Jews from "working" on shabbos (Sabbath - from
sundown
Friday to sundown Saturday), forbidden "work" would include mundane
chores
such as lighting fires, so the Jews would hire Goys (a derogatory term
for
non-Jews) to perform such mundane tasks for them on the shabbos.
In modern usage, a "shabbos goy" is a pawn of the Jews - a Kosher
*****-kisser.
Waldo, how many times do I have to trounce you for you to stay trounced?
That's a funny thing to say, Sheldon - especially considering that you
don't take issue with a single word I've said in this post.
And you seem to sneak out of all our discourses, Waldo. I did address
this issue before. A non-Jew cannot perform any function for a Jew on
Shabbos unless he or she derives a personal benefit. Ergo, a Jew cannot
hire a non-Jew specifically for work on Shabbos. However, a Jew can
benefit from a favor done by a non-Jew of his own volition,
You are an embarrassment
to the species, and once the chimps heard about you they reconsidered
this whole reclassification from Pan to Homo thing.
You, sir, are wasting my oxygen.
And you, sir, may blow it out your shabbos goy *****.
No idea what you are talking about. But if you are trying to somehow
insinuate that I'm Jwish, or have been, you are quite wrong.
If you had been born Jewish, you would die Jewish. It's not something
you
can opt out of.
Former
Catholic, been an atheist since I was about 12.
I note here that you refer to yourself as an atheist and "former
Catholic".
This is correct, as obviously one could not be *both* Catholic and
atheist
simultaneously.
Interestingly, one CAN be both Jewish and athiest at the same time.
Think about it.
That's having a Jewish mother is sufficient to be Jewish, personal
beliefs notwithstanding.
See? You agree with me.
But be careful, lest Steve Wolk accuse you of subscribing to "the Hitlerian
belief".
LOL!
I doubt that Hitler was driven by Jewish law. Neither are you. coincidence?
**
Waldo
Observer at Large
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| User: "Waldo" |
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10 Nov 2003 02:03:32 AM |
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"Sheldon Liberman" <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FAEF756.7000203@sympatico.ca...
Waldo wrote:
"Sheldon Liberman" <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FAED111.1000105@sympatico.ca...
Waldo wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:2sssqv4cf7bbui2ervvs3c1bk0f32451oq@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:33:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:14:28 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
You most emphatically do not speak for me.
I was referring to true gentiles, not shabbos goys like you.
What on Earth is a "shabbos goy"?
Jewish law forbids Jews from "working" on shabbos (Sabbath - from
sundown
Friday to sundown Saturday), forbidden "work" would include mundane
chores
such as lighting fires, so the Jews would hire Goys (a derogatory term
for
non-Jews) to perform such mundane tasks for them on the shabbos.
In modern usage, a "shabbos goy" is a pawn of the Jews - a Kosher
*****-kisser.
Waldo, how many times do I have to trounce you for you to stay trounced?
That's a funny thing to say, Sheldon - especially considering that you
don't take issue with a single word I've said in this post.
And you seem to sneak out of all our discourses, Waldo.
No offence, Sheldon, but hey, I'm a busy guy. Believe me, given the time,
there's nothing I'd rather do than to discuss the mysteries of the universe
with you and yours.
Still, you don't take issue with a single thing I've said.
I did address
this issue before. A non-Jew cannot perform any function for a Jew on
Shabbos unless he or she derives a personal benefit.
I never said that the shabbos Goys went unpaid, Sheldon.
Ergo, a Jew cannot
hire a non-Jew specifically for work on Shabbos.
Cites, please. No offense, I simply wish to expand my knowledge on the
subject.
However, a Jew can
benefit from a favor done by a non-Jew of his own volition,
Well, that tends to contradict what you said above regarding the "personal
benefit" of the non-Jew, doesn't it?
You are an embarrassment
to the species, and once the chimps heard about you they
reconsidered
this whole reclassification from Pan to Homo thing.
You, sir, are wasting my oxygen.
And you, sir, may blow it out your shabbos goy *****.
No idea what you are talking about. But if you are trying to somehow
insinuate that I'm Jwish, or have been, you are quite wrong.
If you had been born Jewish, you would die Jewish. It's not something
you
can opt out of.
Former
Catholic, been an atheist since I was about 12.
I note here that you refer to yourself as an atheist and "former
Catholic".
This is correct, as obviously one could not be *both* Catholic and
atheist
simultaneously.
Interestingly, one CAN be both Jewish and athiest at the same time.
Think about it.
That's having a Jewish mother is sufficient to be Jewish, personal
beliefs notwithstanding.
See? You agree with me.
But be careful, lest Steve Wolk accuse you of subscribing to "the
Hitlerian
belief".
LOL!
I doubt that Hitler was driven by Jewish law. Neither are you.
coincidence?
You're right, Sheldon. I am most certainly NOT "driven by Jewish law".
But enlighten me here: Why is it that when I REFER to Jewish law to make my
points, you and yours get so friggin' bent out of shape?
Do you find your own laws to be a source of embarrassment?
**
Waldo
Observer at Large
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| User: "Joebruno" |
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09 Nov 2003 10:57:22 PM |
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Sheldon Liberman <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<3FAED111.1000105@sympatico.ca>...
Waldo wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:2sssqv4cf7bbui2ervvs3c1bk0f32451oq@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:33:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:14:28 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
You most emphatically do not speak for me.
I was referring to true gentiles, not shabbos goys like you.
What on Earth is a "shabbos goy"?
Jewish law forbids Jews from "working" on shabbos (Sabbath - from sundown
Friday to sundown Saturday), forbidden "work" would include mundane chores
such as lighting fires, so the Jews would hire Goys (a derogatory term for
non-Jews) to perform such mundane tasks for them on the shabbos.
In modern usage, a "shabbos goy" is a pawn of the Jews - a Kosher
*****-kisser.
Waldo, how many times do I have to trounce you for you to stay trounced?
You are an embarrassment
to the species, and once the chimps heard about you they reconsidered
this whole reclassification from Pan to Homo thing.
You, sir, are wasting my oxygen.
And you, sir, may blow it out your shabbos goy *****.
No idea what you are talking about. But if you are trying to somehow
insinuate that I'm Jwish, or have been, you are quite wrong.
If you had been born Jewish, you would die Jewish. It's not something you
can opt out of.
Former
Catholic, been an atheist since I was about 12.
I note here that you refer to yourself as an atheist and "former Catholic".
This is correct, as obviously one could not be *both* Catholic and atheist
simultaneously.
Interestingly, one CAN be both Jewish and athiest at the same time.
Think about it.
That's having a Jewish mother is sufficient to be Jewish, personal
beliefs notwithstanding.
That's not the way it works among Conservatives, Sheldon.A Jewish
Mother creates a presumption that the child is Jewish until the child
is old enough to decide for himself what religion he wants to follow.
He can then(1) revoke that label by converting to another religion
or(2) declare himself an atheist or (3)continue as a Jew by practicing
Judaism.
Are you familiar with the legal term "presumption"?That means an
automatic assumption in the absence of other evidence.It is revocable
by presenting evidence to the contrary.
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| User: "Waldo" |
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10 Nov 2003 02:15:45 AM |
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"Joebruno" <bruno@indystart.com> wrote in message
news:bf3896a1.0311092057.10b15b8e@posting.google.com...
Sheldon Liberman <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:<3FAED111.1000105@sympatico.ca>...
Waldo wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:2sssqv4cf7bbui2ervvs3c1bk0f32451oq@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:33:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:14:28 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
You most emphatically do not speak for me.
I was referring to true gentiles, not shabbos goys like you.
What on Earth is a "shabbos goy"?
Jewish law forbids Jews from "working" on shabbos (Sabbath - from
sundown
Friday to sundown Saturday), forbidden "work" would include mundane
chores
such as lighting fires, so the Jews would hire Goys (a derogatory term
for
non-Jews) to perform such mundane tasks for them on the shabbos.
In modern usage, a "shabbos goy" is a pawn of the Jews - a Kosher
*****-kisser.
Waldo, how many times do I have to trounce you for you to stay trounced?
You are an embarrassment
to the species, and once the chimps heard about you they
reconsidered
this whole reclassification from Pan to Homo thing.
You, sir, are wasting my oxygen.
And you, sir, may blow it out your shabbos goy *****.
No idea what you are talking about. But if you are trying to somehow
insinuate that I'm Jwish, or have been, you are quite wrong.
If you had been born Jewish, you would die Jewish. It's not something
you
can opt out of.
Former
Catholic, been an atheist since I was about 12.
I note here that you refer to yourself as an atheist and "former
Catholic".
This is correct, as obviously one could not be *both* Catholic and
atheist
simultaneously.
Interestingly, one CAN be both Jewish and athiest at the same time.
Think about it.
That's having a Jewish mother is sufficient to be Jewish, personal
beliefs notwithstanding.
That's not the way it works among Conservatives, Sheldon.
Cites, Bluto. We want to see cites. You know damn well that your word is not
credible.
A Jewish
Mother creates a presumption that the child is Jewish until the child
is old enough to decide for himself what religion he wants to follow.
He can then(1) revoke that label by converting to another religion
or(2) declare himself an atheist or (3)continue as a Jew by practicing
Judaism.
And under which, if any, of these circumstances would s/he be inelligible
for immigration to Israel under the "Law of Return"?
Face it, Bluto: If Mama's a Jew, (and particularly if Mamma's Mamma is a
Jew) Baby's a Jew. No questions asked.
Are you familiar with the legal term "presumption"?That means an
automatic assumption in the absence of other evidence.It is revocable
by presenting evidence to the contrary.
Are you asserting that there are no athiest Jews, Joe? Or that atheist Jews
would be forbidden to immigrate to Israel under the "Law of return"?
(BTW, glad to see that you were (apparently) uneffected by the fires that
recently ravaged your county.)
**
Waldo
Observer at Large
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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10 Nov 2003 04:52:39 AM |
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On 9 Nov 2003 20:57:22 -0800, (Joebruno) wrote:
Sheldon Liberman <sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<3FAED111.1000105@sympatico.ca>...
Waldo wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:2sssqv4cf7bbui2ervvs3c1bk0f32451oq@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:33:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:14:28 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
You most emphatically do not speak for me.
I was referring to true gentiles, not shabbos goys like you.
What on Earth is a "shabbos goy"?
Jewish law forbids Jews from "working" on shabbos (Sabbath - from sundown
Friday to sundown Saturday), forbidden "work" would include mundane chores
such as lighting fires, so the Jews would hire Goys (a derogatory term for
non-Jews) to perform such mundane tasks for them on the shabbos.
In modern usage, a "shabbos goy" is a pawn of the Jews - a Kosher
*****-kisser.
Waldo, how many times do I have to trounce you for you to stay trounced?
You are an embarrassment
to the species, and once the chimps heard about you they reconsidered
this whole reclassification from Pan to Homo thing.
You, sir, are wasting my oxygen.
And you, sir, may blow it out your shabbos goy *****.
No idea what you are talking about. But if you are trying to somehow
insinuate that I'm Jwish, or have been, you are quite wrong.
If you had been born Jewish, you would die Jewish. It's not something you
can opt out of.
Former
Catholic, been an atheist since I was about 12.
I note here that you refer to yourself as an atheist and "former Catholic".
This is correct, as obviously one could not be *both* Catholic and atheist
simultaneously.
Interestingly, one CAN be both Jewish and athiest at the same time.
Think about it.
That's having a Jewish mother is sufficient to be Jewish, personal
beliefs notwithstanding.
That's not the way it works among Conservatives, Sheldon.A Jewish
Mother creates a presumption that the child is Jewish until the child
is old enough to decide for himself what religion he wants to follow.
The child's religion is irrelevant. If the mother and father are both
jews, the child is a jew. Whether they are orthodox, conservative,
reformed or even shi'ite.
He can then(1) revoke that label by converting to another religion
or(2) declare himself an atheist or (3)continue as a Jew by practicing
Judaism.
He continues to be a jew regardless of his religion. Simple
genetics.
Are you familiar with the legal term "presumption"?That means an
automatic assumption in the absence of other evidence.It is revocable
by presenting evidence to the contrary.
Are you familiar with the legal term "blow it out your fat jew *****"?
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| User: "Joebruno" |
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09 Nov 2003 08:03:34 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<2sssqv4cf7bbui2ervvs3c1bk0f32451oq@4ax.com>...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:33:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:14:28 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
You most emphatically do not speak for me.
I was referring to true gentiles, not shabbos goys like you.
What on Earth is a "shabbos goy"?
It's a term the Anti-Semites use to minimize the importance of people
who don't share their hatred of Jews. According to the Ten
Commandments, Jews are forbidden to work on the Sabbath(shabbos).
Therefore, they are supposed to hire a Gentile(goy) to do any work
that cannot wait 'till later. The bigot is trying to portray you as a
lackey and servant of the Jews.It's intended as a subtle insult. Get
it?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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10 Nov 2003 11:15:40 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on 9 Nov 2003 18:03:34 -0800, a stranger called
by some (Joebruno) came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
It's a term the Anti-Semites use to minimize the importance of people
who don't share their hatred of Jews. According to the Ten
Commandments, Jews are forbidden to work on the Sabbath(shabbos).
Therefore, they are supposed to hire a Gentile(goy) to do any work
that cannot wait 'till later. The bigot is trying to portray you as a
lackey and servant of the Jews.It's intended as a subtle insult. Get
it?
Hm. How much is the pay? I could use the work!
Of course, in the endless discussions on how Jews survive at SF cons
(which take place on weekends. I've been told that getting someone
else to do work for you is also a violation of the law. (The usual
situation is pushing elevator buttons for a specific floor.)
I ran into this at a gathering a year or two back. An Orthodox friend
was at a fannish gathering taking place at a remote farm house.
Everyone was staying at a motel several miles away. He explained that
he could ask for a ride back to the motel, but if a car door happened
to be left open, he could sit in the car and ride it where ever it
happened to go.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Joebruno" |
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10 Nov 2003 08:48:38 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<klhvqv4gea18oj59o4r3qrs0aohvgm962a@4ax.com>...
Lo, many moons past, on 9 Nov 2003 18:03:34 -0800, a stranger called
by some (Joebruno) came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
It's a term the Anti-Semites use to minimize the importance of people
who don't share their hatred of Jews. According to the Ten
Commandments, Jews are forbidden to work on the Sabbath(shabbos).
Therefore, they are supposed to hire a Gentile(goy) to do any work
that cannot wait 'till later. The bigot is trying to portray you as a
lackey and servant of the Jews.It's intended as a subtle insult. Get
it?
Hm. How much is the pay? I could use the work!
I don't know, neighbor. I do my own chores.I've tried to get my cat to
help me, but she just isn't interested. I really spoil that animal.
Of course, in the endless discussions on how Jews survive at SF cons
(which take place on weekends. I've been told that getting someone
else to do work for you is also a violation of the law. (The usual
situation is pushing elevator buttons for a specific floor.)
I ran into this at a gathering a year or two back. An Orthodox friend
was at a fannish gathering taking place at a remote farm house.
Everyone was staying at a motel several miles away. He explained that
he could ask for a ride back to the motel, but if a car door happened
to be left open, he could sit in the car and ride it where ever it
happened to go.
For Conservative Jews like me, Judaism is only part of our lives. For
the Orthodox, it controls everything they do. You will find that Jews
argue among themselves a great deal about the rules of Judaism. A
great deal of space in the Talmud is devoted to discussing what is
proper in a given situation.At present, the English version of the
Talmud comprises 8 volumes and over 15,000 pages.
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11 Nov 2003 11:10:39 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on 10 Nov 2003 18:48:38 -0800, a stranger called
by some (Joebruno) came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<klhvqv4gea18oj59o4r3qrs0aohvgm962a@4ax.com>...
Hm. How much is the pay? I could use the work!
I don't know, neighbor. I do my own chores.I've tried to get my cat to
help me, but she just isn't interested. I really spoil that animal.
Ah. You missunderstand. The cat owns you. They don't need thumbs,
they have people.
I ran into this at a gathering a year or two back. An Orthodox friend
was at a fannish gathering taking place at a remote farm house.
Everyone was staying at a motel several miles away. He explained that
he could ask for a ride back to the motel, but if a car door happened
to be left open, he could sit in the car and ride it where ever it
happened to go.
For Conservative Jews like me, Judaism is only part of our lives. For
the Orthodox, it controls everything they do. You will find that Jews
argue among themselves a great deal about the rules of Judaism. A
great deal of space in the Talmud is devoted to discussing what is
proper in a given situation.At present, the English version of the
Talmud comprises 8 volumes and over 15,000 pages.
*Nod* To me it seems extreme, but it seems to make them happy. My
mother-in-law is a Reform Jew, converted a few years back.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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11 Nov 2003 10:54:15 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<ct52rvgjk42surt81d93ulp5r5kt64jag8@4ax.com>...
Lo, many moons past, on 10 Nov 2003 18:48:38 -0800, a stranger called
by some (Joebruno) came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<klhvqv4gea18oj59o4r3qrs0aohvgm962a@4ax.com>...
Hm. How much is the pay? I could use the work!
I don't know, neighbor. I do my own chores.I've tried to get my cat to
help me, but she just isn't interested. I really spoil that animal.
Ah. You missunderstand. The cat owns you. They don't need thumbs,
they have people.
I ran into this at a gathering a year or two back. An Orthodox friend
was at a fannish gathering taking place at a remote farm house.
Everyone was staying at a motel several miles away. He explained that
he could ask for a ride back to the motel, but if a car door happened
to be left open, he could sit in the car and ride it where ever it
happened to go.
For Conservative Jews like me, Judaism is only part of our lives. For
the Orthodox, it controls everything they do. You will find that Jews
argue among themselves a great deal about the rules of Judaism. A
great deal of space in the Talmud is devoted to discussing what is
proper in a given situation.At present, the English version of the
Talmud comprises 8 volumes and over 15,000 pages.
*Nod* To me it seems extreme, but it seems to make them happy.
Most Conservative Jews I know learned Jewish law by word of mouth from
their parents, not by reading the Talmud.That's how I learned the
prayers and customs.
My
mother-in-law is a Reform Jew, converted a few years back.
I went to a Reform service awhile back and didn't like it.It was too
informal for my taste. They held services in English and I couldn't
handle that. To me, Jewish prayers aren't Judaism unless they're done
in Hebrew.
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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12 Nov 2003 10:55:55 AM |
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On 11 Nov 2003 20:54:15 -0800, (Joebruno) wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<ct52rvgjk42surt81d93ulp5r5kt64jag8@4ax.com>...
Lo, many moons past, on 10 Nov 2003 18:48:38 -0800, a stranger called
by some (Joebruno) came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<klhvqv4gea18oj59o4r3qrs0aohvgm962a@4ax.com>...
Hm. How much is the pay? I could use the work!
I don't know, neighbor. I do my own chores.I've tried to get my cat to
help me, but she just isn't interested. I really spoil that animal.
Ah. You missunderstand. The cat owns you. They don't need thumbs,
they have people.
I ran into this at a gathering a year or two back. An Orthodox friend
was at a fannish gathering taking place at a remote farm house.
Everyone was staying at a motel several miles away. He explained that
he could ask for a ride back to the motel, but if a car door happened
to be left open, he could sit in the car and ride it where ever it
happened to go.
For Conservative Jews like me, Judaism is only part of our lives. For
the Orthodox, it controls everything they do. You will find that Jews
argue among themselves a great deal about the rules of Judaism. A
great deal of space in the Talmud is devoted to discussing what is
proper in a given situation.At present, the English version of the
Talmud comprises 8 volumes and over 15,000 pages.
*Nod* To me it seems extreme, but it seems to make them happy.
Most Conservative Jews I know learned Jewish law by word of mouth from
their parents, not by reading the Talmud.That's how I learned the
prayers and customs.
My
mother-in-law is a Reform Jew, converted a few years back.
I went to a Reform service awhile back and didn't like it.It was too
informal for my taste. They held services in English and I couldn't
handle that. To me, Jewish prayers aren't Judaism unless they're done
in Hebrew.
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
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| User: "Norma" |
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12 Nov 2003 03:01:45 PM |
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"The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" <rennigade@anglicam.org> wrote in message
news:3fb2660f.1475259@news.onetel.net.uk...
On 11 Nov 2003 20:54:15 -0800, (Joebruno) wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:<ct52rvgjk42surt81d93ulp5r5kt64jag8@4ax.com>...
Lo, many moons past, on 10 Nov 2003 18:48:38 -0800, a stranger called
by some (Joebruno) came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:<klhvqv4gea18oj59o4r3qrs0aohvgm962a@4ax.com>...
Hm. How much is the pay? I could use the work!
I don't know, neighbor. I do my own chores.I've tried to get my cat to
help me, but she just isn't interested. I really spoil that animal.
Ah. You missunderstand. The cat owns you. They don't need thumbs,
they have people.
I ran into this at a gathering a year or two back. An Orthodox
friend
was at a fannish gathering taking place at a remote farm house.
Everyone was staying at a motel several miles away. He explained
that
he could ask for a ride back to the motel, but if a car door
happened
to be left open, he could sit in the car and ride it where ever it
happened to go.
For Conservative Jews like me, Judaism is only part of our lives. For
the Orthodox, it controls everything they do. You will find that Jews
argue among themselves a great deal about the rules of Judaism. A
great deal of space in the Talmud is devoted to discussing what is
proper in a given situation.At present, the English version of the
Talmud comprises 8 volumes and over 15,000 pages.
*Nod* To me it seems extreme, but it seems to make them happy.
Most Conservative Jews I know learned Jewish law by word of mouth from
their parents, not by reading the Talmud.That's how I learned the
prayers and customs.
My
mother-in-law is a Reform Jew, converted a few years back.
I went to a Reform service awhile back and didn't like it.It was too
informal for my taste. They held services in English and I couldn't
handle that. To me, Jewish prayers aren't Judaism unless they're done
in Hebrew.
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
No, it is Hebrew, and they are beautiful to hear and to say. Such lovely
words... The values come right along with them. Norma
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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12 Nov 2003 11:45:45 PM |
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:01:45 -0600, "Norma" <norma2339@charter.net>
wrote:
"The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" <rennigade@anglicam.org> wrote in message
news:3fb2660f.1475259@news.onetel.net.uk...
On 11 Nov 2003 20:54:15 -0800, (Joebruno) wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:<ct52rvgjk42surt81d93ulp5r5kt64jag8@4ax.com>...
Lo, many moons past, on 10 Nov 2003 18:48:38 -0800, a stranger called
by some (Joebruno) came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:<klhvqv4gea18oj59o4r3qrs0aohvgm962a@4ax.com>...
Hm. How much is the pay? I could use the work!
I don't know, neighbor. I do my own chores.I've tried to get my cat to
help me, but she just isn't interested. I really spoil that animal.
Ah. You missunderstand. The cat owns you. They don't need thumbs,
they have people.
I ran into this at a gathering a year or two back. An Orthodox
friend
was at a fannish gathering taking place at a remote farm house.
Everyone was staying at a motel several miles away. He explained
that
he could ask for a ride back to the motel, but if a car door
happened
to be left open, he could sit in the car and ride it where ever it
happened to go.
For Conservative Jews like me, Judaism is only part of our lives. For
the Orthodox, it controls everything they do. You will find that Jews
argue among themselves a great deal about the rules of Judaism. A
great deal of space in the Talmud is devoted to discussing what is
proper in a given situation.At present, the English version of the
Talmud comprises 8 volumes and over 15,000 pages.
*Nod* To me it seems extreme, but it seems to make them happy.
Most Conservative Jews I know learned Jewish law by word of mouth from
their parents, not by reading the Talmud.That's how I learned the
prayers and customs.
My
mother-in-law is a Reform Jew, converted a few years back.
I went to a Reform service awhile back and didn't like it.It was too
informal for my taste. They held services in English and I couldn't
handle that. To me, Jewish prayers aren't Judaism unless they're done
in Hebrew.
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
No, it is Hebrew, and they are beautiful to hear and to say. Such lovely
words... The values come right along with them. Norma
What use are jew values to you, Blankenstein? You're a shitske.
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| User: "Joebruno" |
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22 Nov 2003 02:27:31 PM |
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(The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote in message news:<3fb2660f.1475259@news.onetel.net.uk>...
On 11 Nov 2003 20:54:15 -0800, (Joebruno) wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<ct52rvgjk42surt81d93ulp5r5kt64jag8@4ax.com>...
Lo, many moons past, on 10 Nov 2003 18:48:38 -0800, a stranger called
by some (Joebruno) came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<klhvqv4gea18oj59o4r3qrs0aohvgm962a@4ax.com>...
Hm. How much is the pay? I could use the work!
I don't know, neighbor. I do my own chores.I've tried to get my cat to
help me, but she just isn't interested. I really spoil that animal.
Ah. You missunderstand. The cat owns you. They don't need thumbs,
they have people.
I ran into this at a gathering a year or two back. An Orthodox friend
was at a fannish gathering taking place at a remote farm house.
Everyone was staying at a motel several miles away. He explained that
he could ask for a ride back to the motel, but if a car door happened
to be left open, he could sit in the car and ride it where ever it
happened to go.
For Conservative Jews like me, Judaism is only part of our lives. For
the Orthodox, it controls everything they do. You will find that Jews
argue among themselves a great deal about the rules of Judaism. A
great deal of space in the Talmud is devoted to discussing what is
proper in a given situation.At present, the English version of the
Talmud comprises 8 volumes and over 15,000 pages.
*Nod* To me it seems extreme, but it seems to make them happy.
Most Conservative Jews I know learned Jewish law by word of mouth from
their parents, not by reading the Talmud.That's how I learned the
prayers and customs.
My
mother-in-law is a Reform Jew, converted a few years back.
I went to a Reform service awhile back and didn't like it.It was too
informal for my taste. They held services in English and I couldn't
handle that. To me, Jewish prayers aren't Judaism unless they're done
in Hebrew.
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
You still can't spell my name right.There is no apostrophe in it. That
indicates how reliable you are as a source.
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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24 Nov 2003 04:10:41 AM |
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On 22 Nov 2003 12:27:31 -0800, (Joebruno) wrote:
rennigade@anglicam.org (The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote in message news:<3fb2660f.1475259@news.onetel.net.uk>...
On 11 Nov 2003 20:54:15 -0800, (Joebruno) wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<ct52rvgjk42surt81d93ulp5r5kt64jag8@4ax.com>...
Lo, many moons past, on 10 Nov 2003 18:48:38 -0800, a stranger called
by some (Joebruno) came forth and told this tale
in alt.atheism
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<klhvqv4gea18oj59o4r3qrs0aohvgm962a@4ax.com>...
Hm. How much is the pay? I could use the work!
I don't know, neighbor. I do my own chores.I've tried to get my cat to
help me, but she just isn't interested. I really spoil that animal.
Ah. You missunderstand. The cat owns you. They don't need thumbs,
they have people.
I ran into this at a gathering a year or two back. An Orthodox friend
was at a fannish gathering taking place at a remote farm house.
Everyone was staying at a motel several miles away. He explained that
he could ask for a ride back to the motel, but if a car door happened
to be left open, he could sit in the car and ride it where ever it
happened to go.
For Conservative Jews like me, Judaism is only part of our lives. For
the Orthodox, it controls everything they do. You will find that Jews
argue among themselves a great deal about the rules of Judaism. A
great deal of space in the Talmud is devoted to discussing what is
proper in a given situation.At present, the English version of the
Talmud comprises 8 volumes and over 15,000 pages.
*Nod* To me it seems extreme, but it seems to make them happy.
Most Conservative Jews I know learned Jewish law by word of mouth from
their parents, not by reading the Talmud.That's how I learned the
prayers and customs.
My
mother-in-law is a Reform Jew, converted a few years back.
I went to a Reform service awhile back and didn't like it.It was too
informal for my taste. They held services in English and I couldn't
handle that. To me, Jewish prayers aren't Judaism unless they're done
in Hebrew.
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
You still can't spell my name right.There is no apostrophe in it. That
indicates how reliable you are as a source.
Why did you drop the apostrophe, B'runo? Trying to masquerade as an
American, you *****?
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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22 Nov 2003 02:33:59 PM |
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In news:3fb2660f.1475259@news.onetel.net.uk (The Revd
Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
Ostentatious ignorance; that's so cute.
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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@visi.com
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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24 Nov 2003 04:10:44 AM |
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On 22 Nov 2003 20:33:59 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@visi.com> wrote:
In news:3fb2660f.1475259@news.onetel.net.uk (The Revd
Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
Ostentatious ignorance; that's so cute.
Blow it out your hymen, Hymen, you jew *****. Geddit? Hymen - *****?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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12 Nov 2003 02:59:20 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:55:55 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
I went to a Reform service awhile back and didn't like it.It was too
informal for my taste. They held services in English and I couldn't
handle that. To me, Jewish prayers aren't Judaism unless they're done
in Hebrew.
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
Wrong. Again.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
13 Nov 2003 06:11:56 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:20 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:55:55 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
I went to a Reform service awhile back and didn't like it.It was too
informal for my taste. They held services in English and I couldn't
handle that. To me, Jewish prayers aren't Judaism unless they're done
in Hebrew.
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
Wrong. Again.
What do you know, shabbos goy?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
13 Nov 2003 07:23:43 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:11:56 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:20 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:55:55 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
I went to a Reform service awhile back and didn't like it.It was too
informal for my taste. They held services in English and I couldn't
handle that. To me, Jewish prayers aren't Judaism unless they're done
in Hebrew.
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
Wrong. Again.
What do you know, shabbos goy?
More than you. I speak a little German, and can understand some
Yiddish. It's a mixture of Hebrew, German, and a couple of other
languages. I helped my half-sister-in-law prepare for her bat
mitzvah, and couldn't understand a word. Went to the ceremony, and
once again, all in Hebrew.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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13 Nov 2003 10:08:42 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:23:43 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:11:56 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:20 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:55:55 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
I went to a Reform service awhile back and didn't like it.It was too
informal for my taste. They held services in English and I couldn't
handle that. To me, Jewish prayers aren't Judaism unless they're done
in Hebrew.
They're not done in "hebrew", B'runo. They're done in yiddish.
Wrong. Again.
What do you know, shabbos goy?
More than you. I speak a little German, and can understand some
Yiddish. It's a mixture of Hebrew, German, and a couple of other
languages. I helped my half-sister-in-law prepare for her bat
mitzvah, and couldn't understand a word. Went to the ceremony, and
once again, all in Hebrew.
You're full of *****. Hebrew died out centuries ago and was replaced
by yiddish. It only survives as the alphabet in which yiddish is
written.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
13 Nov 2003 01:55:23 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:08:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
More than you. I speak a little German, and can understand some
Yiddish. It's a mixture of Hebrew, German, and a couple of other
languages. I helped my half-sister-in-law prepare for her bat
mitzvah, and couldn't understand a word. Went to the ceremony, and
once again, all in Hebrew.
You're full of *****. Hebrew died out centuries ago and was replaced
by yiddish. It only survives as the alphabet in which yiddish is
written.
Wrong. I've heard both spoken. Major differences. Yiddish is an
informal tongue, Hebrew is a more formal tongue, like Latin used to be
in medieval Europe.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
13 Nov 2003 07:21:24 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:55:23 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:08:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
More than you. I speak a little German, and can understand some
Yiddish. It's a mixture of Hebrew, German, and a couple of other
languages. I helped my half-sister-in-law prepare for her bat
mitzvah, and couldn't understand a word. Went to the ceremony, and
once again, all in Hebrew.
You're full of *****. Hebrew died out centuries ago and was replaced
by yiddish. It only survives as the alphabet in which yiddish is
written.
Wrong. I've heard both spoken. Major differences. Yiddish is an
informal tongue, Hebrew is a more formal tongue, like Latin used to be
in medieval Europe.
Total b"llocks. Hebrew is a dead language like Latin. All jews
babble in yiddish.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
14 Nov 2003 11:35:54 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:21:24 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:55:23 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Wrong. I've heard both spoken. Major differences. Yiddish is an
informal tongue, Hebrew is a more formal tongue, like Latin used to be
in medieval Europe.
Total b"llocks. Hebrew is a dead language like Latin. All jews
babble in yiddish.
Vescere bracis meis. Me oportet propter praeceptum te nocere.
Being an alleged Churchman, I'm surprised. I was taught Latin in
Sunday School, and it can still be read and is used in some Catholic
Churches to this day. Not widely spoken, but alive.
The official language of Israel is Hebrew. Not Yiddish. There is a
difference.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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14 Nov 2003 06:00:16 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:35:54 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:21:24 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:55:23 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Wrong. I've heard both spoken. Major differences. Yiddish is an
informal tongue, Hebrew is a more formal tongue, like Latin used to be
in medieval Europe.
Total b"llocks. Hebrew is a dead language like Latin. All jews
babble in yiddish.
Vescere bracis meis. Me oportet propter praeceptum te nocere.
Being an alleged Churchman, I'm surprised. I was taught Latin in
Sunday School, and it can still be read and is used in some Catholic
Churches to this day. Not widely spoken, but alive.
You do know what the expression "dead language" means, don't you?
The official language of Israel is Hebrew. Not Yiddish. There is a
difference.
'Israel' actually has two official languages: yiddish and Arabic.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
15 Nov 2003 09:59:19 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:00:16 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:35:54 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Total b"llocks. Hebrew is a dead language like Latin. All jews
babble in yiddish.
Vescere bracis meis. Me oportet propter praeceptum te nocere.
Being an alleged Churchman, I'm surprised. I was taught Latin in
Sunday School, and it can still be read and is used in some Catholic
Churches to this day. Not widely spoken, but alive.
You do know what the expression "dead language" means, don't you?
Yup. No longer spoken commonly in daily life. Latin counts, Hebrew
doesn't.
The official language of Israel is Hebrew. Not Yiddish. There is a
difference.
'Israel' actually has two official languages: yiddish and Arabic.
Not according to the CIA and Israel.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
16 Nov 2003 12:36:01 AM |
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:59:19 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:00:16 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:35:54 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Total b"llocks. Hebrew is a dead language like Latin. All jews
babble in yiddish.
Vescere bracis meis. Me oportet propter praeceptum te nocere.
Being an alleged Churchman, I'm surprised. I was taught Latin in
Sunday School, and it can still be read and is used in some Catholic
Churches to this day. Not widely spoken, but alive.
You do know what the expression "dead language" means, don't you?
Yup. No longer spoken commonly in daily life. Latin counts, Hebrew
doesn't.
Neither counts.
The official language of Israel is Hebrew. Not Yiddish. There is a
difference.
'Israel' actually has two official languages: yiddish and Arabic.
Not according to the CIA and Israel.
You can't trust 'Israel'. Neither can you trust the CIA. Got any
other sources?
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| User: "Newton Joseph" |
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30 Nov 2003 03:05:38 PM |
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Yiddish was the language of European Jews. Since most of them were
massacred, Yiddish is now a dead language.
drnjoseph@socal.rr.com
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