On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:27:38 GMT, "TonyaK911" <TonK911@excite.com>
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:33:22 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net>
wrote:

Trust a bigot to ignore the facts: such as Jews have, percentage-wise,

made

more scientific progress than any other group.

All that scientific know-how must sure come in handy for developing
those chemical and biological weapons Israel is so fond of.

Did you say "Sieg Heil?"

I was just saying hello to my good friend Ms. Heil. See, it's a little
joke we have between us. All in good fun.

Susan Cohen wrote:

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Susan Cohen wrote:

Trust a bigot to ignore the facts: such as Jews
have, percentage-wise, made more scientific
progress than any other group.

There is no doubt that Jewish people have
contributed much, scientifically & culturally to
the entire world.

However, I'm curious as to exactly how
"percentage-wise" progress is defined, and I'm
disappointed that you haven't seen fit to post
such facts as would show that your ranking isn't
mere opinion.

Could you explain further?

For just one simple example: Jews are approximately
2% of the world's population, and over 20% of Nobel
Prize Winners.

This source, http://www.jewishsf.com/bk011012/sfp18.shtml,
gives 18%. This is, of course, still disproportionately
high given the number of Jewish people. Whilst I'm sure
you know that not all Nobel Prizes are awarded for science,
you didn't correct for that. I don't know whether or not
that would make a difference or not.

Neither did you answer my question.

How do you determine "percentage-wise progress"?

One group, for example, known as "Americans" , have won
approximately 1/3 of Nobel prizes. "American men" have won almost
as many, even though their population is about 1/40th of the world
population. This is in the same ballpark of disproportionateness.

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Susan Cohen wrote:

Trust a bigot to ignore the facts: such as Jews
have, percentage-wise, made more scientific
progress than any other group.>>

There is no doubt that Jewish people have
contributed much, scientifically & culturally to
the entire world.>

However, I'm curious as to exactly how
"percentage-wise" progress is defined, and I'm
disappointed that you haven't seen fit to post
such facts as would show that your ranking isn't
mere opinion.>> Could you explain further?> > socode> >

What's cooking!? As the YID of TID, I hope you don't mind if I beat
Susan to the punch!ehehe Before I provide you with the confirmation
links and statistical findings from scholars, let's begin with the
basic principles of disproportionate Jewish success. An analogy of
Jewish influence can be made to the Atom (Einstein, Bohr, Teller,
Oppenheimer, Fermi - all sweet Jews): The secrets of the tiniest
particle of matter can, just like the Jews, change all of human
history. The scope & importance of Jewish contributions to America and
the world are staggering. Now let's find out why Jews are unique from
every other ethnicity: Jews begin by comprising a measly 1/4 of 1% (13
million) of the world's population (6 billion). Of that number, 2% (5
million) are American. In the end, 99% of the world is non-Jewish.
Populace vs. populace does not work, because it doesn't take an
EINSTEIN (guess what religion he was?eh) to excel in this world when
you comprise the majority of its population. Therefore, we must
compare "success percentiles," which is just what it means.
Calculating the population of a group + the success of a group + its
relation to other ethnic groups. Remember, there is no strength in
number, unless it can be applied! Jews are so few in number, yet so
great in ability. Choose any field of human endeavor, and you will
find that Jews have disproportionately (key word) excelled in it. Not
only excelling in spite of their small numbers, but in spite of
thousands of years of persecution, in spite of The Holocaust, and in
spite of not having a homeland for eighteen-hundred years. This is
what makes them unique. Now let's look at disproportionate Jewish
influence in medicine & science. We may begin with the granddad of 'em
all - Albert Einstein. Guess what religion he was?eh Without question,
the greatest mind of the 20th century. Think of a world without E=MC2,
which is the most important & recognized physics equation in the whole
history of the world. How many scientists do you know of who have
their faces plastered on T-shirts and posters? How many have inspired
famous catch phrases: "You're no EINSTEIN!" Think of the many
modern-day heroes most responsible for the intellectual turning points
in our history: Einstein, Freud, Marx - all were Jews! You can line up
100 million Gentile scientists of the 20th century, and not one will
ever achieve the same historical importance as Einstein! Let's jump to
the first American scientist ever awarded a Nobel prize - Albert
Abraham Michaelson. Coincidence that the "first" just happened to be
Jewish? Let's go to Nobel prize winners in medicine & science: Of the
660 Nobel Prizes from 1901-1990, 160 have been won by Jews. That
number translates into winning 40x more than should be expected of
them, simply based upon their small population numbers. In the end,
Jews still win more Nobel prizes in medicine & science than any other
religion. In 1983 alone, Jewish-American scientists received 27% of
the Nobel prizes. In proportion to their population number (2%), the
number of Jews in medicine exceeded 230%, those in psychiatry neared
480%, and those in mathematics approached 240%. Now we move to one of
the greatest medical discoveries of the 20th century: polio vaccine.
Dr. Jonas Salk & Dr. Albert Sabin ring a bell? Guess what religion
they were? Now let's end with a few confirmation links and graph chart
examples of disproportionate success of Jews, who are still the
wealthiest ethnic group in America:> >
In his book, "Ethnic America," Dr. Thomas Sowell, an African-American
economist and senior fellow at the Hoover institute, who created a
point-scale index that graphed Jewish economic success compared with
that of other ethnic groups:

(U.S. Average = 100)

JEWISH 172
JAPANESE 132
POLISH 115
CHINESE 112
ITALIAN 112
GERMAN 107
ANGLO-SAXON 107
IRISH 103
FILIPINO 99
WEST INDIAN 94
MEXICAN 76
PUERTO RICAN 63
BLACK 62...
On to Mr. Steven Silbiger's (accountant/Master's in Business
Administration from the Darden Graduate School of Business
Administration at the University of Virginia) "The Jewish
Phenomenon"....

1) The percentage of Jewish households with income greater than
$50,000 is double that of non-Jews.
2) On the other hand, the percentage of Jewish households with income
less than $20,000 is half that of non-Jews.
3) The Jewish advantage in economic status persists to the present
day; it remains higher than that of white Protestants and Catholics,
even among households of similar age, composition and location.
4) 45% of the top 40 of the Forbes 400 richest Americans are Jewish.
5) 1/3 of American multimillionaires are tallied as Jewish.
6) 20% of professors at leading universities are Jewish.
7) 40% of partners in the leading law firms in New York and Washington
are Jewish.
8) 30% of American Nobel prize winners in science and 25% of all
American Nobel winners are Jewish.
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Judaism/nobels.html
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1076.cfm
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/dialogue.htm
http://www.home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/poj.htm>

Jew-haters cannot be dissuaded with facts.
Regards, > TK9

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Susan Cohen wrote:

Trust a bigot to ignore the facts: such as Jews
have, percentage-wise, made more scientific
progress than any other group.>

There is no doubt that Jewish people have
contributed much, scientifically & culturally to
the entire world.>

However, I'm curious as to exactly how
"percentage-wise" progress is defined, and I'm
disappointed that you haven't seen fit to post
such facts as would show that your ranking isn't
mere opinion.>> Could you explain further?> > socode

What's cooking!? As the YID of TID, I hope you don't mind if I beat
Susan to the punch!ehehe Before I provide you with the confirmation
links and statistical findings from scholars, let's begin with the
basic principles of disproportionate Jewish success. An analogy of
Jewish influence can be made to the Atom (Einstein, Bohr, Teller,
Oppenheimer, Fermi - all sweet Jews): The secrets of the tiniest
particle of matter can, just like the Jews, change all of human
history. The scope & importance of Jewish contributions to America and
the world are staggering. Now let's find out why Jews are unique from
every other ethnicity: Jews begin by comprising a measly 1/4 of 1% (13
million) of the world's population (6 billion). Of that number, 2% (5
million) are American. In the end, 99% of the world is non-Jewish.
Populace vs. populace does not work, because it doesn't take an
EINSTEIN (guess what religion he was?eh) to excel in this world when
you comprise the majority of its population. Therefore, we must
compare "success percentiles," which is just what it means.
Calculating the population of a group + the success of a group + its
relation to other ethnic groups. Remember, there is no strength in
number, unless it can be applied! Jews are so few in number, yet so
great in ability. Choose any field of human endeavor, and you will
find that Jews have disproportionately (key word) excelled in it. Not
only excelling in spite of their small numbers, but in spite of
thousands of years of persecution, in spite of The Holocaust, and in
spite of not having a homeland for eighteen-hundred years. This is
what makes them unique. Now let's look at disproportionate Jewish
influence in medicine & science. We may begin with the granddad of 'em
all - Albert Einstein. Guess what religion he was?eh Without question,
the greatest mind of the 20th century. Think of a world without E=MC2,
which is the most important & recognized physics equation in the whole
history of the world. How many scientists do you know of who have
their faces plastered on T-shirts and posters? How many have inspired
famous catch phrases: "You're no EINSTEIN!" Think of the many
modern-day heroes most responsible for the intellectual turning points
in our history: Einstein, Freud, Marx - all were Jews! You can line up
100 million Gentile scientists of the 20th century, and not one will
ever achieve the same historical importance as Einstein! Let's jump to
the first American scientist ever awarded a Nobel prize - Albert
Abraham Michaelson. Coincidence that the "first" just happened to be
Jewish? Let's go to Nobel prize winners in medicine & science: Of the
660 Nobel Prizes from 1901-1990, 160 have been won by Jews. That
number translates into winning 40x more than should be expected of
them, simply based upon their small population numbers. In the end,
Jews still win more Nobel prizes in medicine & science than any other
religion. In 1983 alone, Jewish-American scientists received 27% of
the Nobel prizes. In proportion to their population number (2%), the
number of Jews in medicine exceeded 230%, those in psychiatry neared
480%, and those in mathematics approached 240%. Now we move to one of
the greatest medical discoveries of the 20th century: polio vaccine.
Dr. Jonas Salk & Dr. Albert Sabin ring a bell? Guess what religion
they were? Now let's end with a few confirmation links and graph chart
examples of disproportionate success of Jews, who are still the
wealthiest ethnic group in America:

In his book, "Ethnic America," Dr. Thomas Sowell, an African-American
economist and senior fellow at the Hoover institute, who created a
point-scale index that graphed Jewish economic success compared with
that of other ethnic groups:

(U.S. Average = 100)

JEWISH 172
JAPANESE 132
POLISH 115
CHINESE 112
ITALIAN 112
GERMAN 107
ANGLO-SAXON 107
IRISH 103
FILIPINO 99
WEST INDIAN 94
MEXICAN 76
PUERTO RICAN 63
BLACK 62...
On to Mr. Steven Silbiger's (accountant/Master's in Business
Administration from the Darden Graduate School of Business
Administration at the University of Virginia) "The Jewish
Phenomenon"....

1) The percentage of Jewish households with income greater than
$50,000 is