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"Thurston Phoremost" |
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17 Oct 2003 03:01:10 AM |
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Maybe these Xtians are useful after all? |
Department of Credit Where Credit Due Dept?
http://www.gospelcom.net/moh/WinkPrat/DTM/ContractOnChildrenPart2.htm
(...)
Yet a protected childhood is a relatively new thing, introduced by
Christian reformers. Only a century ago, children in England were made
to work in coal mines because they were considered the only ones with
bones flexible enough for the horrifying conditions. Imagine the
terror of their days in the mine shafts.
Human Flesh Was Cheaper
The simplest job was being a "trapper." A child was lowered 50 feet
down a shaft to squat in the mud in total darkness with trickling
water, beetles, and rats, waiting to open the trap door for other
children pulling coal cars. He would let the coal through and then
close the trap door again. That way, if there was a mine explosion, it
only killed the children between the doors. The trap doors cut off the
exploding gas from spreading further. Little children, seven or eight
years old, would sit in the dark every day, sometimes 18 to 20 hours,
listening for the coal cars. Some went insane. Yet in the mines, that
was the best job.
The children suffered terrible cruelty at the hands of adults, who
bargained for them, used them, and dismissed them as they pleased.
Many working underground were only eight or nine years old, girls as
well as boys. Some began toiling in the pits when they were only four
or five. They only saw the sun on Sundays. There were no hours of
relaxation, their meals were mostly eaten in the dark, and they lived
with parents who devoted them to this life.
Think about the actual pulling of the coal cars. Women or small
children had to crawl on their hands and knees dragging enormous
weights along narrow passageways that were only 18 to 24 inches in
height, and were as wet and slimy as common sewers. Women remained at
this work until the last hour of pregnancy. Boys and girls performed
the work by using a girdle and chain. A girdle was put around their
naked waist. A chain from the carriage was hooked to the girdle and
passed between their legs. Crawling on hands and knees they drew the
carriages after them.
"It is not necessary to describe," says Shaftesbury, the Christian
politician who fought against this horror for most of his life, "how
their sides were blistered, their ankles stained, their backs chafed
from rubbing against the roofs, or how they stumbled in the darkness
and choked in the stifling atmosphere. It is enough to say they were
obliged to do the work of horses or other beasts of the field, only
because human flesh and blood was cheaper in some cases and horse
labor was impossible in others."
(...)
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11 Nov 2003 02:52:48 AM |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:10:50 -0500, Sheldon Liberman
<sheldon.liberman@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Daniel Balint wrote:
"Waldo" <Waldeaux@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:3faeb9f3$0$191@news.impulse.net...
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:2sssqv4cf7bbui2ervvs3c1bk0f32451oq@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:33:42 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:14:28 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
You most emphatically do not speak for me.
I was referring to true gentiles, not shabbos goys like you.
What on Earth is a "shabbos goy"?
Jewish law forbids Jews from "working" on shabbos (Sabbath - from sundown
Friday to sundown Saturday), forbidden "work" would include mundane chores
such as lighting fires, so the Jews would hire Goys (a derogatory term for
non-Jews) to perform such mundane tasks for them on the shabbos.
In modern usage, a "shabbos goy" is a pawn of the Jews - a Kosher
*****-kisser.
You are an embarrassment
to the species, and once the chimps heard about you they reconsidered
this whole reclassification from Pan to Homo thing.
You, sir, are wasting my oxygen.
And you, sir, may blow it out your shabbos goy *****.
No idea what you are talking about. But if you are trying to somehow
insinuate that I'm Jwish, or have been, you are quite wrong.
If you had been born Jewish, you would die Jewish. It's not something you
can opt out of.
***** - Judaism is a religion only - there is no such race as Jews
Judaism is far from being a religion only, as evidenced by the fact that
even non-religious Jews, for the most part, maintain their Jewish
identity in some fashion, be it by mezuzahs on the door post, marrying
other Jews, attending Passover seders, lighting Chanukah candles, etc.
And, in particular, by being members of the jew race, with its
distinctive facial features.
Judaism ofter descibes categorization
Perhaps you're trying to say "defies"?
simply because it predates most
categorical definitions. What Judaism is is a membership in a covenant
between G-d and the Jewish people. All persons born of a Jewish mother,
and circumsized if male, are part of that covenant.
Not just male, female too.
There are no exit
strategies, nor should any Jew desire one.
Indeed. There are neither exit strategies nor entry strategies, nor
should the civilised world desire any.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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11 Nov 2003 11:15:44 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:52:48 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
And, in particular, by being members of the jew race, with its
distinctive facial features.
So, describe the distinctive facial features of the Ethiopean Jews.
How about the Japanese Jews?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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12 Nov 2003 02:52:04 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:15:44 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:52:48 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
And, in particular, by being members of the jew race, with its
distinctive facial features.
So, describe the distinctive facial features of the Ethiopean Jews.
There are no Ethiopian jews. Operation Solomon was a scam. The
Ashkenazi chief rabbi of 'Israel' has confirmed that the "falashas" do
not qualify as jews.
How about the Japanese Jews?
There are no Japanese, Korean, Filipino or Micronesian jews.
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| User: "Lynn K. Circle" |
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12 Nov 2003 10:57:22 AM |
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(The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote in message news:<3fb1f2a0.12962094@news.tiscali.co.uk>...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:15:44 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:52:48 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
And, in particular, by being members of the jew race, with its
distinctive facial features.
So, describe the distinctive facial features of the Ethiopean Jews.
There are no Ethiopian jews. Operation Solomon was a scam. The
Ashkenazi chief rabbi of 'Israel' has confirmed that the "falashas" do
not qualify as jews.
Ah, but after going through an abbreviated conversion ceremony, they
WERE accepted as Jews in Israel.
How about the Japanese Jews?
There are no Japanese, Korean, Filipino or Micronesian jews.
Then explain the Jewish community of Kobe, which was thriving in 1964
when I was there, but now has pretty much died out as most moved to
Israel (so I am told). Furthermore, explain the WWII Japanese envoy
who first saved a multitude of Jewish lives, and who later converted
to Judaism and is now buried in Israel -- AS A JEW.
Most people who have the desire and will CAN convert to Judaism and
thenceforth will be considered nothing but a Jew by other Jews.
Note,however, I said "most" -- you, for example, are far too porcine
to ever be accepted as a Jew.
Lynn Circle
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| User: "TonyaK911" |
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12 Nov 2003 11:02:43 AM |
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"Lynn K. Circle" <lynnkcircle@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:b432532a.0311120857.6e86cd48@posting.google.com...
rennegade@anglican.org (The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote in message
news:<3fb1f2a0.12962094@news.tiscali.co.uk>...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:15:44 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:52:48 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
And, in particular, by being members of the jew race, with its
distinctive facial features.
So, describe the distinctive facial features of the Ethiopean Jews.
There are no Ethiopian jews. Operation Solomon was a scam. The
Ashkenazi chief rabbi of 'Israel' has confirmed that the "falashas" do
not qualify as jews.
Ah, but after going through an abbreviated conversion ceremony, they
WERE accepted as Jews in Israel.
How about the Japanese Jews?
There are no Japanese, Korean, Filipino or Micronesian jews.
Then explain the Jewish community of Kobe, which was thriving in 1964
when I was there, but now has pretty much died out as most moved to
Israel (so I am told). Furthermore, explain the WWII Japanese envoy
who first saved a multitude of Jewish lives, and who later converted
to Judaism and is now buried in Israel -- AS A JEW.
Most people who have the desire and will CAN convert to Judaism and
thenceforth will be considered nothing but a Jew by other Jews.
Note,however, I said "most" -- you, for example, are far too porcine
to ever be accepted as a Jew.
Lynn Circle
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| User: "TonyaK911" |
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12 Nov 2003 11:04:13 AM |
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"Lynn K. Circle" <lynnkcircle@netscape.net> wrote:
Note,however, I said "most" -- you, for example, are far too porcine
to ever be accepted as a Jew.
Lynn Circle
The phoney Revd doesn't even qualify for human species - and that's a much
easier muster...
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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13 Nov 2003 06:14:01 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:04:13 GMT, "TonyaK7-11" <TonK7-11@excite.com>
wrote:
"Lynn K. Circle" <lynnkcircle@netscape.net> wrote:
Note,however, I said "most" -- you, for example, are far too porcine
to ever be accepted as a Jew.
Lynn Circle
The phoney Revd doesn't even qualify for human species - and that's a much
easier muster...
You're a phoney American, 7-11. You're a Russian jew immigrant who
can't even write in English.
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| User: "Tilly" |
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13 Nov 2003 07:25:12 AM |
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The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe wrote:
You're a phoney American, 7-11. You're a Russian jew immigrant who
can't even write in English.
Goran Razovic (the phoney Rev) isn't English. He is a Croatian or Serbian
immigrant.
Tilly
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Bright1_3@hotmail.com
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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13 Nov 2003 12:41:42 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:25:12 +1300, "Tilly" <Ditsy1@hotmail.com>
wrote:
The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe wrote:
You're a phoney American, 7-11. You're a Russian jew immigrant who
can't even write in English.
Goran Razovic (the phoney Rev) isn't English. He is a Croatian or Serbian
immigrant.
LOL!!! And you're a Maori.
Tilly
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Ditsy1_3@hotmail.com
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| User: "Tilly" |
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13 Nov 2003 08:28:51 PM |
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The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe wrote:
LOL!!! And you're a Maori.
What generation Englishman are you then Rev?
Tilly
Bright1_3@hotmail.com
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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14 Nov 2003 04:15:50 AM |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:28:51 +1300, "Tilly" <Ditsy1@hotmail.com>
wrote:
The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe wrote:
LOL!!! And you're a Maori.
What generation Englishman are you then Rev?
Many, many, many generations, twatty. And what generation jew are
you?
Tilly
Ditsy1_3@hotmail.com
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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14 Nov 2003 12:14:18 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:15:50 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:28:51 +1300, "Tilly" <Ditsy1@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Many, many, many generations, twatty.
No, you aren't. You are in Texas, and the Church of Ireland has never
heard of you. Wanker.
http://ireland.anglican.org/disclaimer/smythe.html
http://churchofireland.net/disclaimer/smythe.html
www.anglican.org/nutjob.html
http://gazette.ireland.anglican.org/010803/extra010803.htm#5
http://www.anglicam.org
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Carl Nisarel" |
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14 Nov 2003 12:18:05 PM |
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Douglas Berry citied -
http://www.anglicam.org
On that page, they use the following description:
"his rather icky usenet posts."
That is absolutely hilarious.
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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15 Nov 2003 11:50:36 PM |
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On 14 Nov 2003 18:18:05 GMT, Carl Nisarel
<hostlbuddha@postmaster.co.uk> wrote:
Douglas Berry citied -
http://www.anglicam.org
On that page, they use the following description:
"his rather icky usenet posts."
That is absolutely hilarious.
Absolutely. To think that someone would pay good money to register a
domain that has no other purpose!
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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16 Nov 2003 11:52:08 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:50:36 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On 14 Nov 2003 18:18:05 GMT, Carl Nisarel
<hostlbuddha@postmaster.co.uk> wrote:
Douglas Berry citied -
http://www.anglicam.org
On that page, they use the following description:
"his rather icky usenet posts."
That is absolutely hilarious.
Absolutely. To think that someone would pay good money to register a
domain that has no other purpose!
And the others? Somebody bought, and faked the entire Church of
Ireland site just to get you?
Fester in your own hatred faker. You aren't English, nor Irish, nor a
minister. Just a sad, little delusional man consumed by his own
inadequacies.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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17 Nov 2003 07:09:57 AM |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:52:08 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:50:36 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On 14 Nov 2003 18:18:05 GMT, Carl Nisarel
<hostlbuddha@postmaster.co.uk> wrote:
Douglas Berry citied -
http://www.anglicam.org
On that page, they use the following description:
"his rather icky usenet posts."
That is absolutely hilarious.
Absolutely. To think that someone would pay good money to register a
domain that has no other purpose!
And the others? Somebody bought, and faked the entire Church of
Ireland site just to get you?
There was no need. It was enough to hack a few selected pages.
Fester in your own hatred faker. You aren't English, nor Irish, nor a
minister. Just a sad, little delusional man consumed by his own
inadequacies.
Oh, blow it out your shabbos goy *****. Go and write some more fiction.
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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15 Nov 2003 12:45:58 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:14:18 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:15:50 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:28:51 +1300, "Tilly" <Ditsy1@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Many, many, many generations, twatty.
No, you aren't. You are in Texas, and the Church of Ireland has never
heard of you. Wanker.
Why do you think I'm in Texas, *****? The Church of Ireland has
indeed heard of me.
http://ireland.anglican.org/disclaimer/smythe.html
http://churchofireland.net/disclaimer/smythe.html
www.anglican.org/nutjob.html
http://gazette.ireland.anglican.org/010803/extra010803.htm#5
http://www.anglicam.org
Are these supposed to mean something?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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15 Nov 2003 05:50:50 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:45:58 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:14:18 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
No, you aren't. You are in Texas, and the Church of Ireland has never
heard of you. Wanker.
Why do you think I'm in Texas, *****? The Church of Ireland has
indeed heard of me.
That's where your DNS resloves to.
Oh, yes they've heard of you.. and they want nothing to do with you.
http://ireland.anglican.org/disclaimer/smythe.html
http://churchofireland.net/disclaimer/smythe.html
www.anglican.org/nutjob.html
http://gazette.ireland.anglican.org/010803/extra010803.htm#5
http://www.anglicam.org
Are these supposed to mean something?
Yup. They are where the real Church of Ireland says that you are a
fraud. for example:
Thursday 10th July 2003
It has been brought to the attention of the Church of Ireland that
someone posting in several USENET newsgroups under the name "The Revd
Terence Fformby-Smythe" has claimed to be a clerical member of the
Church of Ireland, specifically within the Diocese of Armagh.
It has also been brought to our attention that this individual has
implied the the Archbishop of Armagh, the Most Revd. Dr. Robert Eames,
can "vouch" for him/her.
The Archbishop and the Church of Ireland state categorically that
there is no "Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" serving in the church in the
Diocese of Armagh or anywhere else.
The Revd Michael Graham
Hon Secretary, Internet Committee
Central Communications Board
The Church of Ireland
Church House
Church Avenue
Rathmines
Dublin 6
Tel: +353 (0)1 4978422
So, why not give me *your* phone number in Ireland, and I'll call you
once. If I get a church, and you answer, I will apologize publicly.
You won't, because you are nowhere near Ireland.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "TonyaK911" |
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15 Nov 2003 05:53:25 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:moedrvooo5n2r1v4j4erk85dj52kd3b0rh@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:45:58 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
<snip>
The sign on Revd's cage spells: "Please, do not feed the troll."
TK9
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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16 Nov 2003 12:36:34 AM |
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:50:50 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:45:58 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:14:18 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
No, you aren't. You are in Texas, and the Church of Ireland has never
heard of you. Wanker.
Why do you think I'm in Texas, *****? The Church of Ireland has
indeed heard of me.
That's where your DNS resloves to.
No it doesn't. You're simply incompetent.
Oh, yes they've heard of you.. and they want nothing to do with you.
The websites you quote below are all spoofs created by jew hackers in
an attempt to discredit me.
http://ireland.anglican.org/disclaimer/smythe.html
http://churchofireland.net/disclaimer/smythe.html
www.anglican.org/nutjob.html
http://gazette.ireland.anglican.org/010803/extra010803.htm#5
http://www.anglicam.org
Are these supposed to mean something?
Yup. They are where the real Church of Ireland says that you are a
fraud. for example:
Thursday 10th July 2003
It has been brought to the attention of the Church of Ireland that
someone posting in several USENET newsgroups under the name "The Revd
Terence Fformby-Smythe" has claimed to be a clerical member of the
Church of Ireland, specifically within the Diocese of Armagh.
It has also been brought to our attention that this individual has
implied the the Archbishop of Armagh, the Most Revd. Dr. Robert Eames,
can "vouch" for him/her.
The Archbishop and the Church of Ireland state categorically that
there is no "Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" serving in the church in the
Diocese of Armagh or anywhere else.
The Revd Michael Graham
Hon Secretary, Internet Committee
Central Communications Board
The Church of Ireland
Church House
Church Avenue
Rathmines
Dublin 6
Tel: +353 (0)1 4978422
That was the fake statement. I've given you the real one elsewhere.
So, why not give me *your* phone number in Ireland, and I'll call you
once. If I get a church, and you answer, I will apologize publicly.
You won't, because you are nowhere near Ireland.
Certainly, here you go:
011 44 7719 303281
Please bear in mind that we are five hours ahead of the US East Coast
and that today is Sunday. Please do not call before 2:30 pm GMT.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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17 Nov 2003 11:07:51 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:36:34 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
The websites you quote below are all spoofs created by jew hackers in
an attempt to discredit me.
http://ireland.anglican.org/disclaimer/smythe.html
http://churchofireland.net/disclaimer/smythe.html
www.anglican.org/nutjob.html
http://gazette.ireland.anglican.org/010803/extra010803.htm#5
http://www.anglicam.org
Sure they were. The offcial site of the Church of Ireland is a Jewish
hack.
It's been fun, faker, but I've got a writing contract, so my
idiot-bashing time is limited. Just remember that we know you are a
liar.
Erin Go Brough.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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13 Nov 2003 06:13:34 AM |
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On 12 Nov 2003 08:57:22 -0800, (Lynn K.
Circle) wrote:
rennegade@anglican.org (The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote in message news:<3fb1f2a0.12962094@news.tiscali.co.uk>...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:15:44 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:52:48 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
And, in particular, by being members of the jew race, with its
distinctive facial features.
So, describe the distinctive facial features of the Ethiopean Jews.
There are no Ethiopian jews. Operation Solomon was a scam. The
Ashkenazi chief rabbi of 'Israel' has confirmed that the "falashas" do
not qualify as jews.
Ah, but after going through an abbreviated conversion ceremony,
"abbreviated"??? Their dicks were abbreviated AGAIN?
they
WERE accepted as Jews in Israel.
Only by the sephardic chief jew. The ashkenazi chief jew still
rejects them:
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0791/9107048.htm
How about the Japanese Jews?
There are no Japanese, Korean, Filipino or Micronesian jews.
Then explain the Jewish community of Kobe, which was thriving in 1964
when I was there, but now has pretty much died out as most moved to
Israel (so I am told).
I suspect this is an urban myth. So-called oriental 'jews' have lost
all genetic traces of their semitic 'heritage' owing to millennia of
intermarriage with native populations. Adhering to some bizarre
aspects of jewdism never made a real jew out of anybody.
Furthermore, explain the WWII Japanese envoy
who first saved a multitude of Jewish lives, and who later converted
to Judaism and is now buried in Israel -- AS A JEW.
You can't convert from one race to another. 'Conversions' to jewdism
are nothing but a scam.
Most people who have the desire and will CAN convert to Judaism and
thenceforth will be considered nothing but a Jew by other Jews.
Note,however, I said "most" -- you, for example, are far too porcine
to ever be accepted as a Jew.
If you're born a jew, you're stuck with being a jew (like you).
If you're not born a jew, there's no way you can ever become one.
Religion has no bearing on jewishness. Capiche?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
12 Nov 2003 09:54:07 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:52:04 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
So, describe the distinctive facial features of the Ethiopean Jews.
There are no Ethiopian jews. Operation Solomon was a scam. The
Ashkenazi chief rabbi of 'Israel' has confirmed that the "falashas" do
not qualify as jews.
Oddly, the Ethopians disagree. Care to provide a cite on that
declaration?
How about the Japanese Jews?
There are no Japanese, Korean, Filipino or Micronesian jews.
BS. There's a synagogue in Tokyo, 2 in Seoul, ROK. I've met a
Filipino rabbi. Born on Luzon.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
13 Nov 2003 06:10:59 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:54:07 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:52:04 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
So, describe the distinctive facial features of the Ethiopean Jews.
There are no Ethiopian jews. Operation Solomon was a scam. The
Ashkenazi chief rabbi of 'Israel' has confirmed that the "falashas" do
not qualify as jews.
Oddly, the Ethopians disagree.
They would. Even 'Israel' must be better than a shithole like
Ethiopia.
Care to provide a cite on that
declaration?
Certainly.
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0791/9107048.htm
The relevant text is reproduced below:
"Like most such problems in Israel, it has never been fully resolved.
The Sephardi chief rabbi accepted the Falashas as Jews in 1973. The
Ashkenazi chief rabbi does not accept them to this day."
How about the Japanese Jews?
There are no Japanese, Korean, Filipino or Micronesian jews.
BS. There's a synagogue in Tokyo, 2 in Seoul, ROK. I've met a
Filipino rabbi. Born on Luzon.
HS. These are purely for the use of expatriates and/or converts.
There are no real oriental jews.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
13 Nov 2003 07:21:36 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:10:59 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:54:07 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Care to provide a cite on that
declaration?
Certainly.
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0791/9107048.htm
The relevant text is reproduced below:
"Like most such problems in Israel, it has never been fully resolved.
The Sephardi chief rabbi accepted the Falashas as Jews in 1973. The
Ashkenazi chief rabbi does not accept them to this day."
One faction. Christianity, as you may have noticed, has many
factions, who made gleeful war against each other for centuries in
Europe. According to the State of Israel, the Ethiopean Jews are
Jews, and are entitled to citizenship.
BS. There's a synagogue in Tokyo, 2 in Seoul, ROK. I've met a
Filipino rabbi. Born on Luzon.
HS. These are purely for the use of expatriates and/or converts.
There are no real oriental jews.
Wrong. I've met them. Someone mentioned Kobe, there have been
Japanese Jews there since the 18th Century. Korean Judasim is more
recent, dating from intermarriage during the Korean War, but they are
now well into the fourth generation.
And the Filipino rabbi I mentioned, I guess he's not a real Jew,
despite the fact that his grand mother converted in 1946, and his
mother was born and raised a Jew.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
13 Nov 2003 12:57:37 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:21:36 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:10:59 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:54:07 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Care to provide a cite on that
declaration?
Certainly.
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0791/9107048.htm
The relevant text is reproduced below:
"Like most such problems in Israel, it has never been fully resolved.
The Sephardi chief rabbi accepted the Falashas as Jews in 1973. The
Ashkenazi chief rabbi does not accept them to this day."
One faction. Christianity, as you may have noticed, has many
factions, who made gleeful war against each other for centuries in
Europe. According to the State of Israel, the Ethiopean Jews are
Jews, and are entitled to citizenship.
Ashkenazis make up the majority of 'Israel's' jews. What their chief
jew says goes. The State of 'Israel' doesn't make determinations as
to who is a jew. It only decides who is allowed to settle in
'Israel'. At least 20% of those with 'Israeli' citizenship are Arabs.
Anyway, most of the "falashas" had no intention of staying in
'Israel'. They used it as a stepping stone to their ultimate
destination, the US.
BS. There's a synagogue in Tokyo, 2 in Seoul, ROK. I've met a
Filipino rabbi. Born on Luzon.
HS. These are purely for the use of expatriates and/or converts.
There are no real oriental jews.
Wrong. I've met them.
What makes you think they were jews?
Someone mentioned Kobe, there have been
Japanese Jews there since the 18th Century. Korean Judasim is more
recent, dating from intermarriage during the Korean War, but they are
now well into the fourth generation.
Anyone who is an ethnic Korean can't be a jew at the same time. It's
simply not possible.
And the Filipino rabbi I mentioned, I guess he's not a real Jew,
despite the fact that his grand mother converted in 1946, and his
mother was born and raised a Jew.
None of them are real jews. Not the Japanese, not the Koreans, not
any other East Asians. Real jews are semites.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
13 Nov 2003 01:53:34 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:57:37 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:21:36 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Ashkenazis make up the majority of 'Israel's' jews. What their chief
jew says goes. The State of 'Israel' doesn't make determinations as
to who is a jew. It only decides who is allowed to settle in
'Israel'. At least 20% of those with 'Israeli' citizenship are Arabs.
Anyway, most of the "falashas" had no intention of staying in
'Israel'. They used it as a stepping stone to their ultimate
destination, the US.
Gee, taking them long enough. Anyway, I've been to Israel, and got my
jump wings with the IDF. (I've also got Korean and German wings.)
The Ethiopian jews are fully integrated into the military.
Wrong. I've met them.
What makes you think they were jews?
Conversations. We do talk with people, you know. When you are
sitting on the DMZ watching the North Koreans watching you, you get
bored. So you talk with the ROKs you share trench works with. I was
a bit surprised when our KATUSA (Korean attached to United States
Army) liaison officer got a kosher MRE. He confirmed he was Jewish.
His mother had converted when she married an American soldier after
the Korean War. His wife had converted, and their children were being
raised jews.
Someone mentioned Kobe, there have been
Japanese Jews there since the 18th Century. Korean Judasim is more
recent, dating from intermarriage during the Korean War, but they are
now well into the fourth generation.
Anyone who is an ethnic Korean can't be a jew at the same time. It's
simply not possible.
In your little world maybe, out here in the real one, it is possible.
And the Filipino rabbi I mentioned, I guess he's not a real Jew,
despite the fact that his grand mother converted in 1946, and his
mother was born and raised a Jew.
None of them are real jews. Not the Japanese, not the Koreans, not
any other East Asians. Real jews are semites.
The real world disagrees with you, twit.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
13 Nov 2003 07:21:26 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:53:34 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:57:37 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:21:36 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Ashkenazis make up the majority of 'Israel's' jews. What their chief
jew says goes. The State of 'Israel' doesn't make determinations as
to who is a jew. It only decides who is allowed to settle in
'Israel'. At least 20% of those with 'Israeli' citizenship are Arabs.
Anyway, most of the "falashas" had no intention of staying in
'Israel'. They used it as a stepping stone to their ultimate
destination, the US.
Gee, taking them long enough. Anyway, I've been to Israel, and got my
jump wings with the IDF.
Definitely a shabbos goy, then.
(I've also got Korean and German wings.)
The Ethiopian jews are fully integrated into the military.
Someone's got to clean the latrines.
Wrong. I've met them.
What makes you think they were jews?
Conversations. We do talk with people, you know.
People lie, you know.
When you are
sitting on the DMZ watching the North Koreans watching you, you get
bored. So you talk with the ROKs you share trench works with. I was
a bit surprised when our KATUSA (Korean attached to United States
Army) liaison officer got a kosher MRE. He confirmed he was Jewish.
His mother had converted when she married an American soldier after
the Korean War. His wife had converted, and their children were being
raised jews.
That's exactly my point. Converts aren't real jews.
Jew law doesn't and can't override the universal laws of heredity.
Someone mentioned Kobe, there have been
Japanese Jews there since the 18th Century. Korean Judasim is more
recent, dating from intermarriage during the Korean War, but they are
now well into the fourth generation.
Anyone who is an ethnic Korean can't be a jew at the same time. It's
simply not possible.
In your little world maybe, out here in the real one, it is possible.
Jews are a separate race. That's why people like Paul Reichman,
Barbra Streisand and Steven Spielberg look jewish.
And the Filipino rabbi I mentioned, I guess he's not a real Jew,
despite the fact that his grand mother converted in 1946, and his
mother was born and raised a Jew.
None of them are real jews. Not the Japanese, not the Koreans, not
any other East Asians. Real jews are semites.
The real world disagrees with you, twit.
You mean your science fiction world does, retard.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Those stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Jews. |
14 Nov 2003 11:56:58 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:21:26 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:53:34 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Gee, taking them long enough. Anyway, I've been to Israel, and got my
jump wings with the IDF.
Definitely a shabbos goy, then.
LOL! No, just another Airborne trooper playing "collect the wings"
(I've also got Korean and German wings.)
The Ethiopian jews are fully integrated into the military.
Someone's got to clean the latrines.
Everybody does that. I was refering to our jumpmaster.
Conversations. We do talk with people, you know.
People lie, you know.
You are a prime example.
When you are
sitting on the DMZ watching the North Koreans watching you, you get
bored. So you talk with the ROKs you share trench works with. I was
a bit surprised when our KATUSA (Korean attached to United States
Army) liaison officer got a kosher MRE. He confirmed he was Jewish.
His mother had converted when she married an American soldier after
the Korean War. His wife had converted, and their children were being
raised jews.
That's exactly my point. Converts aren't real jews.
Jew law doesn't and can't override the universal laws of heredity.
Judaism is a religion. Anyway, His children were born and raised
Jews.
In your little world maybe, out here in the real one, it is possible.
Jews are a separate race. That's why people like Paul Reichman,
Barbra Streisand and Steven Spielberg look jewish.
And my Jewish friend who is Nordic looking? Not a convert, just a
Anglo Jew who can trace his heritage in England back to the 16th
Century, and all were Jews.
The real world disagrees with you, twit.
You mean your science fiction world does, retard
No, I can tell the difference..
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" |
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15 Nov 2003 12:45:55 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:56:58 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:21:26 GMT, a stranger
called by some (The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe) came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:53:34 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Gee, taking them long enough. Anyway, I've been to Israel, and got my
jump wings with the IDF.
Definitely a shabbos goy, then.
LOL! No, just another Airborne trooper playing "collect the wings"
Anyone who visits 'Israel' for such a purpose is a shabbos goy.
(I've also got Korean and German wings.)
The Ethiopian jews are fully integrated into the military.
Someone's got to clean the latrines.
Everybody does that. I was refering to our jumpmaster.
They actually gave a schvartze a working parachute?
Conversations. We do talk with people, you know.
People lie, you know.
You are a prime example.
I'm not jewish.
When you are
sitting on the DMZ watching the North Koreans watching you, you get
bored. So you talk with the ROKs you share trench works with. I was
a bit surprised when our KATUSA (Korean attached to United States
Army) liaison officer got a kosher MRE. He confirmed he was Jewish.
His mother had converted when she married an American soldier after
the Korean War. His wife had converted, and their children were being
raised jews.
That's exactly my point. Converts aren't real jews.
Jew law doesn't and can't override the universal laws of heredity.
Judaism is a religion.
I agree, and so are many other -isms. You appear to have confused
jewdism with being a jew. They are two different things. There are
jews who follow jewdism, but there are also jew Buddhists, jew
Catholics and jew agnostics/atheists. And, conversely, there are
gentiles (referred to as 'converts') who practise jewdism without
being jewish.
Anyway, His children were born and raised
Jews.
Irrelevant. You could circumcise a monkey and raise it as a jew.
In your little world maybe, out here in the real one, it is possible.
Jews are a separate race. That's why people like Paul Reichman,
Barbra Streisand and Steven Spielberg look jewish.
And my Jewish friend who is Nordic looking? Not a convert, just a
Anglo Jew who can trace his heritage in England back to the 16th
Century, and all were Jews.
Mixed race. Guaranteed. And that's the whole problem with this jew
crap about matrilineal descent. What they call jewish, most people
would call half-jewish.
The real world disagrees with you, twit.
You mean your science fiction world does, retard
No, I can tell the difference..
You don't even know there is one.
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