On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:14:20 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Don Homuth" <dhomuth1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:43:47 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

"Don Homuth" <dhomuth1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:14:49 -0400, "John D.Wentzky"
<johndwentzky@alumni.furman.edu> wrote:

Which is why they aren't supposed to support this Islamic group.

How do they provide this "support?"

By recognizing them in law.
The government isn supposed to recognize this group in law.

Wrong on its face.

Why do you respect an establishment of religion?

I don't -- in this case, because there isn't one.

The gubmint can formally recognize Any group that wishes to file the
appropriate forms, but such recognition does not equate to Support or
even to Approval.

What a joke, liar.

Child -- before you start tossing that term around, you might bother
to check with the laws wrt such matters. Because on this one, I'm
correct and You are Wrong.

Churches, for example, have an IRS 501(c) designator -- providing they
file the appropriate paperwork.

Yes.
But they do not list as an establishment of religion.

Neither does this group.

That does not Establish any of them.

So, why file then?

So contributions can be deducted from taxes, among other reasons.

Why even file if it doesn't establish any of them?

Money.

And the word establish and establishment are not even identical parts of
speech.

Don't even Start to parse words with me, kid. I'm far better at it
than you are, just so far.

Does this organization have a Congressional Charter? There are few
that do.

It doesn't need a Congressional charter to be deemed in violation of the
Constitution..

Answer the question, child.

I am not a child, infant.

Nor am I an infant, zygote.

You said they have a congressional charter.

Who said they have a congressional charter?
I didn't.

Here's your words:

..procedures that were used to grant charters to organizations such as
this islamic group are

being used contrary to the law itself.

What sort of "charter" are you discussing?

I am unable to find it, though the Boy Scouts and the
American Red Cross, inter alia, clearly do have such a charter.

Yes.
Those charters are in compliance with the First Amendment.

Np -- the Boy Scouts discriminate on the basis of religion.

They are
quite free to do that.

You have invented new ways to be Adamantly Ignorant of what the term
Establishment actually means, when discussed within the context of the
First Amendment.

No one sees you presenting what that clause means.

I'm too busy laughing.

Is the government supposed to make laws which respect an establishment of
religion or not?

Nope. And in this case, it does not do that.

LOL!

Your laughter is as content-free as your rhetoric.

Do you know what the phrase actually means?

Seems easy enough to me.

Ignorance always seems easy. To the Ignorant, and more so to the
Admantly Ignorant.

I don;t see you presenting anything to substantiate your stance.

Do you know?

I do. This isn't it.

Because you say so?

In this case, yes.

LOL!

Your entertainment value is just about off-scale on this one. It
pleases me to allow you the chance to thrash about a tad more, or
alternatively to allow someone else the chance to thrash you with a
ClueBat, before showing you the depth of your own foolishness.

Looks like you have a conflict of interest in this matter.

Can't see how. My interest is in your providing entertainment, and
jollying you along some on the matter handles that nicely.

Bye, *****.
[snip]

Anyone Else care to provide this twerp an Actual Clue?

I would, but have other things to do this afternoon here shortly.

This one's easy.