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User: "stoney"
Date: 30 Jun 2005 10:24:22 PM
Object: McCarthyism has returned. Welcome to the 1950's
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0629-22.htm
Published on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 by the Star Tribune
(Minneapolis, MN)
Put Rove's Speech in Context of McCarthyism
by E.J. Dionne Jr.

In the 1950s, the right wing attacked liberals for being Communists.
In 2005, Karl Rove has attacked liberals for being therapists. Thus is
born a kinder and gentler form of McCarthyism.
Named after the late Sen. Joe McCarthy, who never let the facts get in
the way of his lust to charge liberals with sedition, McCarthyism has
come to mean "guilt by association."
What gave McCarthyism its power was that the senator from Wisconsin
did not invent the danger posed to the United States by Soviet
communism. The Soviet Union was a real threat and there were real
Communist spies working in America.
What made McCarthy and his allies so insidious was their eagerness to
level the "soft on communism" charge against even staunchly
anti-Communist liberals. One of them was Secretary of State Dean
Acheson, an architect of Harry Truman's tough policy of containing
Soviet power. In the 1952 presidential campaign, Richard Nixon pounded
Democratic nominee Adlai Stevenson for earning a "Ph.D from Dean
Acheson's College of Cowardly Communist Containment."
The McCarthyites' real enemies were not Communists but the New Deal
liberals who had dominated American politics for 20 years. The
McCarthy crowd was willing to divide the nation at a time of grave
international peril if that's what it took to beat the liberals.
Rove's instantly famous speech last week to the New York state
Conservative Party should be read in light of this history and not be
written off as a cheap, one-time partisan attack. On the contrary, the
address by Rove, President Bush's most important adviser, provides the
outlines of a sophisticated strategy aimed at making liberals and
Democrats all look soft on terrorism.
Here are the key passages: "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and
the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the
9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and
understanding for our attackers. In the wake of 9/11, conservatives
believed it was time to unleash the might and power of the United
States military against the Taliban; in the wake of 9/11, liberals
believed it was time to submit a petition. ... Conservatives saw what
happened to us on 9/11 and said: We will defeat our enemies. Liberals
saw what happened to us and said: We must understand our enemies."
Liberals and Democrats were enraged by Rove because virtually every
officeholding liberal and Democrat closed ranks behind President Bush
on 9/11. They endorsed the use of force against the terrorists and,
when the time came, strongly backed the war in Afghanistan.
But Rove knows how to play this game. The only evidence he adduces for
his therapy charge is a petition in which the current executive
director of MoveOn.org called for "moderation and restraint" in the
wake of 9/11. Rove then slides smoothly from the attack on MoveOn to
attacks on Michael Moore and Howard Dean. Finally, Rove tosses in an
assault on Sen. ***** Durbin, D-Ill., for his statement that an FBI
report on the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay might remind
Americans of the practices of Nazi and Communist dictatorships.
In the ensuing controversy, Rove's defenders cleverly sought to
pretend that there was nothing partisan about Rove's speech. "Karl
didn't say 'the Democratic Party,' " insisted Ken Mehlman, the
Republican national chairman. "He said 'liberals.' " It must have been
purely accidental that one of the "liberals" mentioned was the
Democratic national chairman and another was the Senate Democratic
whip. It must also have been accidental that both of them, like most
other liberals, supported the war in Afghanistan, not therapy. At the
time, Durbin called the war "essential."
On Friday, White House spokesman Scott McClellan narrowed the Rove
attack even more. McClellan found it "puzzling" that Democrats were
"coming to the defense of liberal organizations like MoveOn.org and
people like Michael Moore," when, in fact, Democrats were coming to
their own defense. McClellan also ignored what Mehlman had conceded
the day before -- and what the text of Rove's remarks plainly shows:
that Rove was attacking liberals generally, not just these two
targets.
That's how guilt-by-association works. Make a charge and then -- once
your attack is out there -- pretend that your words have been
misinterpreted. Split your opponents. Put them on the defensive. Force
them to say things like: "No, we're not soft on terrorism," or, "I'm
not that kind of liberal." Once this happens, the attacker has already
won.
Respectable opinion treats Rove's speech as just another partisan
flap. It's much more. It's the reincarnation of a style of politics
that turns political opponents into traitors or dupes who are soft on
the nation's enemies. Welcome back to the '50s.
© 2005 Star Tribune
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: McCarthyism has returned. Welcome to the 1950's 01 Jul 2005 01:29:59 AM
In article <7jd9c1tgjc8g8vspe8j0l5bbs205dql6q3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0629-22.htm

Published on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 by the Star Tribune
(Minneapolis, MN)

Put Rove's Speech in Context of McCarthyism
by E.J. Dionne Jr.

In the 1950s, the right wing attacked liberals for being Communists.
In 2005, Karl Rove has attacked liberals for being therapists. Thus is
born a kinder and gentler form of McCarthyism.

Named after the late Sen. Joe McCarthy, who never let the facts get in
the way of his lust to charge liberals with sedition, McCarthyism has
come to mean "guilt by association."

What gave McCarthyism its power was that the senator from Wisconsin
did not invent the danger posed to the United States by Soviet
communism. The Soviet Union was a real threat and there were real
Communist spies working in America.

What made McCarthy and his allies so insidious was their eagerness to
level the "soft on communism" charge against even staunchly
anti-Communist liberals. One of them was Secretary of State Dean
Acheson, an architect of Harry Truman's tough policy of containing
Soviet power. In the 1952 presidential campaign, Richard Nixon pounded
Democratic nominee Adlai Stevenson for earning a "Ph.D from Dean
Acheson's College of Cowardly Communist Containment."

The McCarthyites' real enemies were not Communists but the New Deal
liberals who had dominated American politics for 20 years. The
McCarthy crowd was willing to divide the nation at a time of grave
international peril if that's what it took to beat the liberals.

Rove's instantly famous speech last week to the New York state
Conservative Party should be read in light of this history and not be
written off as a cheap, one-time partisan attack. On the contrary, the
address by Rove, President Bush's most important adviser, provides the
outlines of a sophisticated strategy aimed at making liberals and
Democrats all look soft on terrorism.

Here are the key passages: "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and
the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the
9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and
understanding for our attackers. In the wake of 9/11, conservatives
believed it was time to unleash the might and power of the United
States military against the Taliban; in the wake of 9/11, liberals
believed it was time to submit a petition. ... Conservatives saw what
happened to us on 9/11 and said: We will defeat our enemies. Liberals
saw what happened to us and said: We must understand our enemies."

Liberals and Democrats were enraged by Rove because virtually every
officeholding liberal and Democrat closed ranks behind President Bush
on 9/11. They endorsed the use of force against the terrorists and,
when the time came, strongly backed the war in Afghanistan.

But Rove knows how to play this game. The only evidence he adduces for
his therapy charge is a petition in which the current executive
director of MoveOn.org called for "moderation and restraint" in the
wake of 9/11. Rove then slides smoothly from the attack on MoveOn to
attacks on Michael Moore and Howard Dean. Finally, Rove tosses in an
assault on Sen. ***** Durbin, D-Ill., for his statement that an FBI
report on the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay might remind
Americans of the practices of Nazi and Communist dictatorships.

In the ensuing controversy, Rove's defenders cleverly sought to
pretend that there was nothing partisan about Rove's speech. "Karl
didn't say 'the Democratic Party,' " insisted Ken Mehlman, the
Republican national chairman. "He said 'liberals.' " It must have been
purely accidental that one of the "liberals" mentioned was the
Democratic national chairman and another was the Senate Democratic
whip. It must also have been accidental that both of them, like most
other liberals, supported the war in Afghanistan, not therapy. At the
time, Durbin called the war "essential."

On Friday, White House spokesman Scott McClellan narrowed the Rove
attack even more. McClellan found it "puzzling" that Democrats were
"coming to the defense of liberal organizations like MoveOn.org and
people like Michael Moore," when, in fact, Democrats were coming to
their own defense. McClellan also ignored what Mehlman had conceded
the day before -- and what the text of Rove's remarks plainly shows:
that Rove was attacking liberals generally, not just these two
targets.

That's how guilt-by-association works. Make a charge and then -- once
your attack is out there -- pretend that your words have been
misinterpreted. Split your opponents. Put them on the defensive. Force
them to say things like: "No, we're not soft on terrorism," or, "I'm
not that kind of liberal." Once this happens, the attacker has already
won.

Respectable opinion treats Rove's speech as just another partisan
flap. It's much more. It's the reincarnation of a style of politics
that turns political opponents into traitors or dupes who are soft on
the nation's enemies. Welcome back to the '50s.

© 2005 Star Tribune

I just had a horrifying, but interesting thought. Did McCarthy have any
***** children? Rove and McClellan are bastards, but I wonder if they
are related.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: McCarthyism has returned. Welcome to the 1950's 07 Jul 2005 01:32:59 AM
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:29:59 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:

In article <7jd9c1tgjc8g8vspe8j0l5bbs205dql6q3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0629-22.htm

Published on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 by the Star Tribune
(Minneapolis, MN)

Put Rove's Speech in Context of McCarthyism
by E.J. Dionne Jr.

In the 1950s, the right wing attacked liberals for being Communists.
In 2005, Karl Rove has attacked liberals for being therapists. Thus is
born a kinder and gentler form of McCarthyism.

[]

Respectable opinion treats Rove's speech as just another partisan
flap. It's much more. It's the reincarnation of a style of politics
that turns political opponents into traitors or dupes who are soft on
the nation's enemies. Welcome back to the '50s.

© 2005 Star Tribune


I just had a horrifying, but interesting thought. Did McCarthy have any
***** children? Rove and McClellan are bastards, but I wonder if they
are related.

***** buddies.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.


User: "raven1"

Title: Re: McCarthyism has returned. Welcome to the 1950's 01 Jul 2005 02:44:30 PM
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:24:22 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

But Rove knows how to play this game. The only evidence he adduces for
his therapy charge is a petition in which the current executive
director of MoveOn.org called for "moderation and restraint" in the
wake of 9/11.

Which Air America's Randi Rhodes exposed on the air as a bald-faced
lie on Rove's part: that never happened.
---
"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: McCarthyism has returned. Welcome to the 1950's 07 Jul 2005 01:33:46 AM
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:44:30 -0400, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:24:22 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

But Rove knows how to play this game. The only evidence he adduces for
his therapy charge is a petition in which the current executive
director of MoveOn.org called for "moderation and restraint" in the
wake of 9/11.


Which Air America's Randi Rhodes exposed on the air as a bald-faced
lie on Rove's part: that never happened.

Water is wet.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.

User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: McCarthyism has returned. Welcome to the 1950's 01 Jul 2005 04:13:05 PM
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
news:667bc1lupnkv5kqpfig5chhejj0od8tkn6@4ax.com:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:24:22 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

But Rove knows how to play this game. The only evidence he adduces for
his therapy charge is a petition in which the current executive
director of MoveOn.org called for "moderation and restraint" in the
wake of 9/11.


Which Air America's Randi Rhodes exposed on the air as a bald-faced
lie on Rove's part: that never happened.

Which was a bald-faced lie on Randi Rhodes' part.
http://brainster.blogspot.com/2005_06_19_brainster_archive.html#
111963770
999419511
After Rove's comments, MoveOn released a statement saying flatly,
"MoveOn did not oppose the U.S. military action in Afghanistan." And in
an interview with the Washington Post, reporter Dan Balz wrote that
MoveOn political chief Eli Pariser "disputed Rove's characterization of
the petition calling for moderation and restraint, saying that the
petition was a personal project before he was affiliated with MoveOn and
that it was not on the group's Web site at the time of the Afghanistan
war."
This has become part of the left's effort to demonize the Iraq War. They
pretend that they supported Afghanistan at the time, which is a bit
puzzling. After all, if the left were behind the Afghanistan war, then
who was warning us about the brutal Afghan winter? Who was calling it a
quagmire? Who was it that told us that the British and the Soviet
empires had both crumbled against the fierce resistance of the mighty
Afghan warriors?
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200506241146.asp
Despite Pariser's contention, there is solid evidence that MoveOn did in
fact oppose the war in Afghanistan, and that MoveOn founders Joan Blades
and Wes Boyd hired Pariser in significant part because of his activism
against the war.
The story began with a man who has received little attention in the
controversy, a young film student named David Pickering. Visiting his
parents' home in Brooklyn on September 11, 2001, Pickering immediately
began to worry about the consequences of U.S. retaliation for the
terrorist attacks. "It was this incredible moment in which all doors
were opened and the world was seeming to come together," Pickering told
me in an interview for my book, The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy. "I had
this feeling that it would be a shame if that were spoiled by a spirit
of vengeance."
The next day, September 12, Pickering wrote a petition calling on
President Bush to use "moderation and restraint" in responding to 9/11
and "to use, wherever possible, international judicial institutions and
international human rights law to bring to justice those responsible for
the attacks, rather than the instruments of war, violence or
destruction."
At the same time, Pariser, who had graduated from college the year
before and was working at a liberal nonprofit organization in
Massachusetts, was writing a similar petition, which he put on a website
he created called 9-11peace.org. Pariser noticed Pickering's work and
e-mailed him to suggest that they merge their sites. Pickering agreed,
and 9-11peace.org featured a petition which read:
We implore the powers that be to use, wherever possible,
international judicial institutions and international human rights
law to bring to justice those responsible for the attacks, rather
than the instruments of war, violence or destruction. Furthermore,
we assert that the government of a nation must be presumed separate
and distinct from any terrorist group that may operate within its
borders, and therefore cannot be held unduly accountable for the
latter's crimes. . .
Meanwhile, across the country in Berkeley, California, MoveOn founders
Wes Boyd and Joan Blades were writing an anti-war petition of their own.
Entitled "Justice, not Terror," it read, in full: "Our leaders are under
tremendous pressure to act in the aftermath of the terrible events of
Sept. 11th. We the undersigned support justice, not escalating violence,
which would only play into the terrorists' hands."
As they staked out their own anti-war position, Blades and Boyd were
also following the progress of 9-11peace.org. In a September 2004
interview for The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, I asked Blades how she had
come to know Pariser. "It was after 9/11," she told me. "He put out a
message similar in results to the one we had, basically an e-mail
petition asking for restraint. It went viral on an international scale.
.. . . Eli's petition grew to half a million in half a week. Peter
[Schurman, the executive director of MoveOn] contacted him because he
figured he probably needed some help. We did provide him with some
assistance, and we started working together on other issues and
eventually merged." In the end, their shared opposition to U.S.-military
retaliation for the September 11 attacks brought Pariser and MoveOn
together. (For his part, David Pickering moved to Paris to attend film
school.)
Critics have suggested that at the very least, Rove's "liberals" charge
was overbroad. That's a fair criticism. But as far as MoveOn is
concerned, Rove's words were accurate and fair.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
.



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