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Mechanism behind intelligent design uncovered?
- (says Darwin's theory "unworkable")
Dr. Kelly Hollowell
World Net Daily.com
June 17, 2005
Few e-mails have ever stopped me as cold as the one I am
about to describe. In it, the author, a former university
professor who wishes to remain anonymous, claims to know
the actual mechanism behind intelligent design. That is
the mechanism by which God created the universe, our
world and all biological life within it.
This is especially intriguing as Darwin's theory of
evolution is now hotly contested by arguments of
intelligent design. One weakness of ID is its failure to
offer a mechanism to counter evolution's bogus
explanation of diversity through macro-mutation. As a
result, ID has failed in broad view to distinguish itself
as a true scientific theory on the origin of life.
Now, I admit the original e-mail has all the makings of a
possible hoax. On the other hand, it could possibly
produce one of the most fantastic breakthroughs in
scientific theory since Darwin. So which is? I'll let you
decide.
For the sake of brevity, what follows is an excerpted and
edited summary of the author's theory. Additionally, I
have expanded a few key concepts for clarity. A link to
the full text in its original format can be found at the
close of my commentary.
The mechanism behind intelligent design
This theory comes from a critical analysis of the Big
Bang theory, Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and
quantum physics. The concepts behind this scientific
knowledge can be understood by any person with a modern
education and should be known to all.
In the Bible, we are told that God created the universe
out of nothing by using light. This is confirmed by
modern cosmologists. They acknowledge physical existence
had a beginning from complete nothingness (no time, no
space and no matter). Then from a single focal point of
light the physical world came into existence initially in
the form of sub-atomic particles, i.e., the Big Bang
theory. Of primary importance were the protons, neutrons
and electrons, the basic building blocks of all matter
that now exists in the physical universe.
After this explosive event, these sub-atomic particles
were sometime later transformed into atomic nuclei and
the various elements. When asked why the sub-atomic
particles joined together into the more complex
arrangements of nuclei and elements, science answers that
it is due to the "electromagnetic force." This EMF is
carried out through an exchange of photons, which are
light energy. For example, a photon is emitted by an atom
during a transition from one energy state to another.
Both the Big Bang event and subsequent arrangement of
sub-atomic particles, therefore, provide our first
opportunity to see light as the interface between the
non-physical (spiritual) world and physical existence.
Think about it. From light came matter. Then that matter
was organized into various elements by EMF.
This is supported by Einstein's Special Theory of
Relativity concerning the characteristics of light.
Specifically, photons of light can behave dually like a
stream of high-speed, submicroscopic particles, but also
like a wave phenomenon. A wave is defined as a
disturbance that propagates and carries energy. As a
wave, light does not show the physical property of mass.
This non-material characteristic, once again, reveals
light as an interface between the non-physical
(spiritual) world and the physical universe.
Science can confirm at the sub-atomic, atomic and
molecular levels that changes are often due to
information passed by an exchange of light energy.
Unfortunately, as we reach the next level of complexity,
which is the progression from the molecular stage to
biological life, the processes exceed our current ability
to appropriately dissect. But through logic,
extrapolation and preliminary scientific findings, we may
fairly hypothesize that the same method of applying
EMF/light is used as in the earlier stages of progressive
development.
For example, the changes from one life form to another
may require only slight alterations and/or additions to
the overall structure of the DNA molecule. These small
structural changes would not occur by mutation as the
theory of evolution suggests, but rather by EMF causing
and creating ever-increasing complex relationships
between the nucleotides along the DNA strand. The
combined effects of these small structural changes to the
DNA molecule would be sufficient to create progressively
complex physical life. This explains how a human has only
double the number of genes as a fruit fly. The amount of
DNA didn't need to proportionately increase with human
complexity; rather complexity of the relationships among
existing nucleotides needed to increase.
This hypothesis on the origin of life provides a
scientifically testable alternative to the mechanism of
macro-mutation offered by evolution. My reason for
sharing this theory is that I find it intriguing, but I
do not have the expertise in physics to test it
adequately. I do know as a molecular biologist that
Darwin's theory is unworkable. So my hope is this
presentation will intrigue others who are qualified to
determine whether this theory has sufficient merit to
develop it further, dismiss it entirely or rework into
something more plausible.
In closing, it is of interest to recall that according to
the Bible, God created the world and all that is in it
through Christ Jesus who identifies himself as the Light
of the World. The full text of the e-mail can be read at
http://www.ScienceMinistries.org
Kelly Hollowell, J.D., Ph.D., is a scientist, patent
attorney and adjunct law professor of bioethics. She is a
senior strategist for the Center for Reclaiming America,
a conference speaker and founder of Science Ministries
Inc.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44847
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Posted on 6/18/2005 7:04:11 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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The Mechanism Behind Intelligent Design
By Anonymous
A scientifically testable, alternative mechanism to evolution.
Science Ministries -
I am sending you this information in hopes that you can
find some way to use it in the battle against the
atheistic, Darwinian concept of evolution which has
destroyed so much of the original spiritual nature of
human society, and help to bring the attention of the
people of the world back to the increasingly obvious fact
that God created this universe and everything in it. I
was some years ago a university professor with a
background in theoretical physics, but am now quite old
and dying of cancer. I want to do whatever I can before I
leave this world to help humanity come back from the
disaster of secular materialistic belief to a God-
centered, spiritual world.
I can see in the current trend toward the acceptance of
'intelligent design' a movement toward a more accurate,
objective understanding of God as our Creator. There was
a time when science seemed to be the enemy of religious
belief - that time is no more! Modern physics and
cosmology (science of the origin and development of the
universe) now provide firm objective evidence of the
existence of God, confirm the primary attributes of God,
and show how God created the physical existence out of
'nothingness'. This knowledge comes from a critical
analysis of the 'Big Bang' theory, Einstein's Special
Theory of Relativity, and work being done in quantum
physics. The concepts behind this esoteric scientific
knowledge can now be presented in such a way as to be
understood by any person with a modern education and
necessarily should become known by all. I would predict
that it will not be too long until the position of
atheism is considered to be scientifically naïve,
logically nonsensical, and philosophically embarrassing.
My presentation of these facts may not be in exactly the
theological language you might prefer, but this is not
the time to quibble over differences in form, it is the
acceptance of the basic truth of God's existence and His
role as Creator of the physical universe and everything
in it that is critical. Although intelligent design is a
powerful argument against atheistic, Darwinian
evolutionist ideas I think the one area of weakness in
intelligent design is that it does not yet offer the
'mechanism' by which God did (or at least could) create
the universe and fashion each of the progressive stages
in the development of the matter of the universe,
including biological life. Believe me; the atheistic
evolutionists will be quick to exploit this perceived
weakness.
I will have to be exceedingly brief in this explanation
since many books could be written on this most important
and complex subject, so I will leave it to you to have
these facts checked by religious scientists of your
acquaintance, although I have already verified the facts
with other scientists to my own satisfaction.
In the Bible we are told that God created the universe
out of nothingness through Light, and I believe other
religions hold somewhat similar views. This is confirmed
by modern cosmologists who now must acknowledge that
physical existence had a beginning from complete
nothingness (no time, no space, and no matter) and at a
singularity Light, a fair non-technical name for the full
spectrum of photons of electromagnetic radiation, came
into existence. This intense Light energy resulted in the
creation of matter in the form of sub-atomic particles;
of primary importance to us were the protons, neutrons,
and electrons, the basic building blocks of all that now
exists in the physical universe. Additionally, as a side
effect of the creation of material particles was the
simultaneous appearance of space and time.
This provides our first opportunity to see Light as the
interface between the non-physical (spiritual) world and
the physical existence. These sub-atomic particles were
sometime later transformed into atomic nuclei and the
various atoms (all the different elements which still
exist today). When asked why the sub-atomic particles
joined together into the more complex arrangements of
nuclei and atoms science answers that it is due to the
'electromagnetic force'. This electromagnetic force is
carried out through an exchange of photons (Light
energy). According to Einstein's Special Theory of
Relativity, which is about the 'special' characteristics
of Light, photons of Light energy do not show any of the
three necessary characteristics to be part of the
physical universe. They do not have mass, they do not
occupy volume of space, and they are not involved in the
flow of time; therefore, Light maintains non-material
characteristics, once again indicating its nature as an
interface between the non-physical (spiritual) world and
the physical universe.
From a religious point of view what I would say is
happening is that we see how God, acting in an orderly
and lawful manner, did command the necessary sub-atomic
particles to join together into certain relationships we
call nuclei and atoms. The 'electromagnetic force' is
only the name science has put on these orderly, lawful
workings of God as He goes through this early stage of
the Creation. It appears God does this by sending Light
as the messenger to carry information regarding His
commands to the various sub-atomic particles and telling
them how it is His Will that they relate to each other in
this new, more complex manner. Here we begin to see the
'mechanism' missing from the intelligent design argument
by which God's Will is carried out in the physical
existence.
We see exactly the same process taking place later in the
development of the physical universe when various atoms
begin relating to other atoms in another step toward
greater complexity and becoming the various molecules, as
in the simple example when two hydrogen atoms are joined
with one oxygen atom to form a molecule of water. Once
again science now knows that only certain atoms will form
relationships with certain other atoms and the
information as to which atoms can and should join with
other atoms is determined by another exchange of photons
(Light energy). Light again being the messenger from the
non-physical (spiritual) existence telling the created
matter how to carry out its role in the development of
the physical universe. God's Will is commanded to the
atomic structures by the messengers of Light. This
appears to be the 'mechanism' by which God transforms
simple atoms into the various molecules of increasing
complexity all the way up through the amino acids, and
proteins to the highly complex DNA molecule.
Importantly, we see that God does not at each new stage
of material complexity (sub-atomic particles, atoms, and
molecules) create anew; He commands the rearrangement of
the previous simpler stage into the next more complex
stage. And to move from one stage to another in
increasing complexity, God each time appears to use the
'mechanism' of Light as a messenger to transmit His Will
from the non-physical (spiritual) existence to the
various material forms of the physical universe.
At the sub-atomic, the atomic, and the molecular levels
of material development science is clearly able to
understand that the changes taking place are due to the
information passed on through an exchange of photons of
Light energy. Unfortunately, as we reach the next level
of complexity, which is the progression from the
molecular stage to the stage of biological life, the
plants and animals, the process becomes so complex that
from science we are as yet unable to fully perceive all
that takes place to make that step. But through logic,
extrapolation, and preliminary scientific findings we may
fairly and rightly assume that it is only reasonable that
the same method was used as in the earlier stages of
progressive development. So we would expect that by an
exchange of photons (Light energy) between the molecular
entities existing at that time information was passed
telling the various molecules involved to relate to each
other in such a manner that a new level of material
complexity is achieved, that being the simplest forms of
biological life.
When God decides the time is right to create biological
life He commands that His Will be done and sends
messengers of Light from the spiritual existence to the
physical universe instructing the necessary molecular
forms He had already created to join together in the new,
more complex relationship of simple biological life.
These simple biological life forms are then made up of
the even simpler material forms, the atoms and molecules,
from the surrounding environment which are instructed by
photons of light energy from a DNA type molecule to form
themselves into the new, more complex relationship of
biological life. Here we see the same 'mechanism' being
used as in all the previous stages of creation.
Now we can begin to understand the 'mechanism' behind the
final stages of increasing material complexity as God
transforms simple biological life forms into all the more
complex plants and animals we see in the world today.
Beginning with the first simple forms of biological life
which God had already created He now only has to send
messages by Light from the non-physical (spiritual)
existence to the physical world commanding that His Will
be carried out and that all the necessary more complex
forms of plant and animal life must come to be. These
changes from one stage to another, from the simple to the
more complex, require only slight alterations in the
overall structure of the DNA molecule. These small
structural changes in the DNA molecule are determined by
information transmitted by photons (Light energy) to the
atomic structures making up the DNA molecule, instructing
them to move into slightly different arrangements in one
or more small areas of the long and complex structure of
the overall DNA molecule. The combined effect of these
small structural changes to the DNA molecule are
sufficient to bring about any desired changes in the next
progressively complex physical form to be expressed (all
of the various plants and animals) which are required by
God to facilitate the continued unfolding of the physical
creation according to His Plan.
Through this new knowledge we now have a scientifically
verifiable 'mechanism' by which God could have created
the physical universe from nothing in the beginning of
time. Conveniently, information transmitted through Light
energy also provides the 'mechanism' by which God could
have directly commanded the creation of all the different
increasingly complex stages and forms of matter which we
find today throughout the physical universe, including
all forms of biological life. It will be very difficult,
I believe impossible, for the Godless evolutionists and
atheistic scientists to successfully argue against this
understanding of God's Plan for Creation.
Of course do not only take my word for this, verify what
I have said with reputable scientists sympathetic to the
cause of intelligent design, and use these ideas in any
way and with whatever words you are most comfortable with
to help bring the world's people to the knowledge that
God does indeed exist, that He created the entire
physical existence, and that He created us for a special
place in His Plan. This could be the beginning of the end
for secular materialism and atheism, and the beginning of
a future world fully recognizing its spiritual nature and
glorifying God through peace and love.
Note: Below is an example of the kind of attack that
intelligent design will face until the 'mechanism' by
which God's creative process takes place is offered.
"Intelligent Design, which has some claim to being based
on hard evidence, remains woefully short on the required
specifics. We are told that some unknown but all-powerful
entity created, or rather designed life as we know it.
How? And, in what way? Don't ask. Just take their word
for it." - From the Binghamton Press & Sun-Bulletin
newspaper.
http://www.scienceministries.org/
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19 Jun 2005 03:17:07 AM |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Forwarded messages posted for discussion
Mechanism behind intelligent design uncovered?
- (says Darwin's theory "unworkable")
Dr. Kelly Hollowell
World Net Daily.com
June 17, 2005
etc, garbage
Before you troll at least check if some other troll hasn't already
posted the same sh.t.
See:
http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/43f896c9358b250d/00b68f3c4c7762ea?hl=en#00b68f3c4c7762ea
If you think that posting nonsense will impress anyone here you must be
insane. Well, actually you are!
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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19 Jun 2005 09:56:52 AM |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Forwarded messages posted for discussion
Mechanism behind intelligent design uncovered?
- (says Darwin's theory "unworkable")
I say, how would you like to be my manservant on the way to Dar es
Salaam?
~Iain
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19 Jun 2005 10:12:05 AM |
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Iain wrote:
Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Forwarded messages posted for discussion
Mechanism behind intelligent design uncovered?
- (says Darwin's theory "unworkable")
I say, how would you like to be my manservant on the way to Dar es
Salaam?
~Iain
You must be joking, it would take him half an hour to say "Dinner is
served"!!!
....and even then he would have it wrong!
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| User: "Iain" |
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19 Jun 2005 10:30:32 AM |
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bob young wrote:
Iain wrote:
Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Forwarded messages posted for discussion
Mechanism behind intelligent design uncovered?
- (says Darwin's theory "unworkable")
I say, how would you like to be my manservant on the way to Dar es
Salaam?
~Iain
You must be joking, it would take him half an hour to say "Dinner is
served"!!!
...and even then he would have it wrong!
Could he iron my silk ties?
~Iain
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19 Jun 2005 11:22:15 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 02:52:24 GMT, (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
wrote:
This is especially intriguing as Darwin's theory of
evolution is now hotly contested by arguments of
intelligent design.
(Among religious wackos.)
One weakness of ID is its failure to
offer a mechanism to counter evolution's bogus
explanation of diversity through macro-mutation.
Another weakness is that it is *****.
As a
result, ID has failed in broad view to distinguish itself
as a true scientific theory on the origin of life.
Got that right.
Now, I admit the original e-mail has all the makings of a
possible hoax. On the other hand, it could possibly
produce one of the most fantastic breakthroughs in
scientific theory since Darwin. So which is? I'll let you
decide.
Let's think about this. Breakthroughs in science are normally
published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. Hoaxes are commonly
circulated by e-mail. Science involves theories and observations
based on established knowledge. Hoaxes are often based on
fundamentalist religion. ok, I think I've decided.
For the sake of brevity, what follows is an excerpted and
edited summary of the author's theory. Additionally, I
have expanded a few key concepts for clarity. A link to
the full text in its original format can be found at the
close of my commentary.
Thanks for the preview, but I'll wait to read it in Nature.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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20 Jun 2005 01:26:44 AM |
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In the Bible, we are told that God created the
universe out of nothing by using light.
Do the ID people not actually read the book they base their
creationism-by-another-name on? God did no such thing. In either
version of the origin story found in Genesis.
Doug
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20 Jun 2005 01:49:20 AM |
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wrote:
In the Bible, we are told that God created the
universe out of nothing by using light.
Do the ID people not actually read the book they base their
creationism-by-another-name on? God did no such thing. In either
version of the origin story found in Genesis.
The ten or so books I read on Intelligent Design never mentioned how the
universe was created; let alone something as silly as using light. The
only thing that could have created the Universe was an incredible amount of
energy. How light could create a Universe, I have no idea.
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20 Jun 2005 01:53:22 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:49:20 GMT, "El Bleacho" <ElBleacho@Clorox.gov>
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dougtricarico@hotmail.com wrote:
In the Bible, we are told that God created the
universe out of nothing by using light.
Do the ID people not actually read the book they base their
creationism-by-another-name on? God did no such thing. In either
version of the origin story found in Genesis.
The ten or so books I read on Intelligent Design never mentioned how the
universe was created; let alone something as silly as using light. The
only thing that could have created the Universe was an incredible amount of
energy. How light could create a Universe, I have no idea.
It's like "a dropped object doesn't fall to the ground with an
acceleration due to gravity of approximately 32ft/sec/sec, God did
it".
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20 Jun 2005 01:30:45 AM |
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On 19 Jun 2005 18:26:44 -0700, wrote:
In the Bible, we are told that God created the
universe out of nothing by using light.
Do the ID people not actually read the book they base their
creationism-by-another-name on? God did no such thing. In either
version of the origin story found in Genesis.
No. They heard the preachers tell them this so it must be true.
Doug
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