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"Fred Stone" |
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16 Oct 2005 01:55:05 PM |
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Media Outraged Over Staged Pro-War Propaganda Event |
http://www.transterrestrial.com/archives/005847.html#005847
March 3rd, 1945
IWO JIMA (Routers) Controversy has erupted among the press corps in the
last few days as news has spread that the now-famous picture of the
"victorious" flag raising over Iwo Jima a couple weeks ago was staged. Many
believe that, as the huge number of casualties mounted in the ill-fated and
pointless invasion of this tiny island, the Roosevelt administration,
desperate for a bit of pro-war propaganda, arranged to have the photo taken
for dissemination to the world's news services...
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The amount of violations of human rights in a country
is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints
about human rights violations heard from there.
The greater the number of complaints being aired,
the better protected are human rights in that country."
-- Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged Over Staged Pro-War Propaganda Event |
16 Oct 2005 07:10:35 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
IWO JIMA (Routers) Controversy has erupted among the
press corps in the last few days as news has spread that
the now-famous picture of the "victorious" flag raising
over Iwo Jima a couple weeks ago was staged.
Wow. That is *So* *Much* like a draft-dodger-turned-deserter
using military personnel as backdrops in his staged propaganda
that it's scary. And I'm not being the least bit sacrcastic.
Well, maybe just a little.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged Over Staged Pro-War Propaganda Event |
17 Oct 2005 12:46:24 AM |
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In article <Na6dnSynPdXhdM_enZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
IWO JIMA (Routers) Controversy has erupted among the
press corps in the last few days as news has spread that
the now-famous picture of the "victorious" flag raising
over Iwo Jima a couple weeks ago was staged.
Wow. That is *So* *Much* like a draft-dodger-turned-deserter
using military personnel as backdrops in his staged propaganda
that it's scary. And I'm not being the least bit sacrcastic.
Another "Mission Accomplished" moment? At least he didn't wear the
flight suit.
Well, maybe just a little.
I think that it is scary when you can't trust anything that this
administration says or does anymore.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged Over Staged Pro-War Propaganda Event |
17 Oct 2005 07:08:47 AM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in news:jhachm-
689D1B.22462416102005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Na6dnSynPdXhdM_enZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
IWO JIMA (Routers) Controversy has erupted among the
press corps in the last few days as news has spread that
the now-famous picture of the "victorious" flag raising
over Iwo Jima a couple weeks ago was staged.
Wow. That is *So* *Much* like a draft-dodger-turned-deserter
using military personnel as backdrops in his staged propaganda
that it's scary. And I'm not being the least bit sacrcastic.
Another "Mission Accomplished" moment? At least he didn't wear the
flight suit.
Well, maybe just a little.
I think that it is scary when you can't trust anything that this
administration says or does anymore.
Proving once again that liberals, like fundies, are beyond parody.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The amount of violations of human rights in a country
is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints
about human rights violations heard from there.
The greater the number of complaints being aired,
the better protected are human rights in that country."
-- Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged Over Staged Pro-War Propaganda Event |
17 Oct 2005 06:43:10 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Proving once again that liberals, like fundies, are beyond parody.
What are they parodying?
Or, more importantly, do you have the guts to admit that they are
comparing a draft-dodger-turned-deserter using military men as
props in his propaganda pieces to the raising of the flag at
Iwo Jima?
This is low. I mean, this is really _low_.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged Over Staged Pro-War Propaganda Event |
19 Oct 2005 12:19:10 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:43:10 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Proving once again that liberals, like fundies, are beyond parody.
What are they parodying?
Or, more importantly, do you have the guts to admit that they are
comparing a draft-dodger-turned-deserter using military men as
props in his propaganda pieces to the raising of the flag at
Iwo Jima?
This is low. I mean, this is really _low_.
Whatever flashbacks fly through what remains of Phred's brain.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged Over Staged Pro-War Propaganda Event |
16 Oct 2005 02:30:01 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:55:05 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.transterrestrial.com/archives/005847.html#005847
March 3rd, 1945
IWO JIMA (Routers) Controversy has erupted among the press corps in the
last few days as news has spread that the now-famous picture of the
"victorious" flag raising over Iwo Jima a couple weeks ago was staged. Many
believe that, as the huge number of casualties mounted in the ill-fated and
pointless invasion of this tiny island, the Roosevelt administration,
desperate for a bit of pro-war propaganda, arranged to have the photo taken
for dissemination to the world's news services...
Already violating the 'the other side did it a little bit, so when we
do it alot and overwhelmingly, it must be A-Ok' rule?
My my my.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged Over Staged Pro-War Propaganda Event |
16 Oct 2005 02:39:30 PM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:4356a91e.134310156@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:55:05 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.transterrestrial.com/archives/005847.html#005847
March 3rd, 1945
IWO JIMA (Routers) Controversy has erupted among the press corps in
the last few days as news has spread that the now-famous picture of
the "victorious" flag raising over Iwo Jima a couple weeks ago was
staged. Many believe that, as the huge number of casualties mounted in
the ill-fated and pointless invasion of this tiny island, the
Roosevelt administration, desperate for a bit of pro-war propaganda,
arranged to have the photo taken for dissemination to the world's news
services...
Already violating the 'the other side did it a little bit, so when we
do it alot and overwhelmingly, it must be A-Ok' rule?
My my my.
And heeeeeere's Kate with her pipe dreams again. Do you get those
delusions about what other people are saying a lot?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The amount of violations of human rights in a country
is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints
about human rights violations heard from there.
The greater the number of complaints being aired,
the better protected are human rights in that country."
-- Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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| User: "SEEYO" |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged |
16 Oct 2005 05:07:44 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message >
And heeeeeere's Kate with her pipe dreams again. Do you get those
delusions about what other people are saying a lot?
I think she skewered your simple minded ***** pretty well.
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement
of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent
encroachments of those in power than by violent and
sudden usurpations." - US President James Madison
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"To be a social conservative is to believe that the
poor have too much money, and the rich don't have
enough." - J.K. Galbraith
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged |
16 Oct 2005 06:10:05 PM |
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"SEEYO" <no@none.com> wrote in
news:1129500479.b4cb6e54dfacb6a76c4dc2ac84c6293d@teranews:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message >
And heeeeeere's Kate with her pipe dreams again. Do you get those
delusions about what other people are saying a lot?
I think she skewered your simple minded ***** pretty well.
And here's Kate's sock puppet.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The amount of violations of human rights in a country
is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints
about human rights violations heard from there.
The greater the number of complaints being aired,
the better protected are human rights in that country."
-- Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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| User: "towelie" |
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16 Oct 2005 05:13:05 PM |
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TV's SEEYO wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message >
And heeeeeere's Kate with her pipe dreams again. Do you get those
delusions about what other people are saying a lot?
I think she skewered your simple minded ***** pretty well.
Like that's something to brag about.
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aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged Over Staged Pro-War Propaganda Event |
16 Oct 2005 08:14:21 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:55:05 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in <Xns96F197DE4E6C6fstone69@213.155.197.138>
wrote:
http://www.transterrestrial.com/archives/005847.html#005847
March 3rd, 1945
IWO JIMA (Routers) Controversy has erupted among the press corps in the
last few days as news has spread that the now-famous picture of the
"victorious" flag raising over Iwo Jima a couple weeks ago was staged. Many
believe that, as the huge number of casualties mounted in the ill-fated and
pointless invasion of this tiny island, the Roosevelt administration,
desperate for a bit of pro-war propaganda, arranged to have the photo taken
for dissemination to the world's news services...
Actually, when it was publicized that the famous photo was staged
there was an uproar. It is a bit distressing to see dishonesty used,
even for a cause you believe in. Or, rather, it is distressing to
*me*, you may well have a different view.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
Genocide is news | Be A Witness
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www.darfurgenocide.org
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http://www.savedarfur.org/
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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16 Oct 2005 09:18:36 PM |
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Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:5lu5l15jegiajcbb9bmmal7j16v6d8754l@4ax.com:
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:55:05 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in <Xns96F197DE4E6C6fstone69@213.155.197.138>
wrote:
http://www.transterrestrial.com/archives/005847.html#005847
March 3rd, 1945
IWO JIMA (Routers) Controversy has erupted among the press corps in
the last few days as news has spread that the now-famous picture of
the "victorious" flag raising over Iwo Jima a couple weeks ago was
staged. Many believe that, as the huge number of casualties mounted in
the ill-fated and pointless invasion of this tiny island, the
Roosevelt administration, desperate for a bit of pro-war propaganda,
arranged to have the photo taken for dissemination to the world's news
services...
Actually, when it was publicized that the famous photo was staged
there was an uproar. It is a bit distressing to see dishonesty used,
even for a cause you believe in. Or, rather, it is distressing to
*me*, you may well have a different view.
Oh, I agree, especially when it turns out that the charges that the event
was staged were themselves dishonest. I suggest that you read the comment
thread attached to that article.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The amount of violations of human rights in a country
is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints
about human rights violations heard from there.
The greater the number of complaints being aired,
the better protected are human rights in that country."
-- Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Media Outraged Over Staged Pro-War Propaganda Event |
17 Oct 2005 09:42:51 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:18:36 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in <Xns96F1E312A7DC6fstone69@213.155.197.138>
wrote:
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:5lu5l15jegiajcbb9bmmal7j16v6d8754l@4ax.com:
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:55:05 +0000 (UTC), in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in <Xns96F197DE4E6C6fstone69@213.155.197.138>
wrote:
http://www.transterrestrial.com/archives/005847.html#005847
March 3rd, 1945
IWO JIMA (Routers) Controversy has erupted among the press corps in
the last few days as news has spread that the now-famous picture of
the "victorious" flag raising over Iwo Jima a couple weeks ago was
staged. Many believe that, as the huge number of casualties mounted in
the ill-fated and pointless invasion of this tiny island, the
Roosevelt administration, desperate for a bit of pro-war propaganda,
arranged to have the photo taken for dissemination to the world's news
services...
Actually, when it was publicized that the famous photo was staged
there was an uproar. It is a bit distressing to see dishonesty used,
even for a cause you believe in. Or, rather, it is distressing to
*me*, you may well have a different view.
Oh, I agree, especially when it turns out that the charges that the event
was staged were themselves dishonest. I suggest that you read the comment
thread attached to that article.
The article was satire and the comments deal with it as satire. I was
not talking about that. I was talking about the actual controversy. I
just did a quick research since I was working from memory and the
story is more muddled. The flag picture, I gather was not staged, but
it is of the second flag raising. The report was not dishonest, the
reported messed up and admitted he made an error.
Then again, MacArthur's gallant return to the Philippines, wading in
the surf, was stage for the photographers. So the notion of staging
military events for publicity is not exactly new.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
Genocide is news | Be A Witness
http://www.beawitness.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
www.darfurgenocide.org
Save Darfur.org :: Violence and Suffering in Sudan's Darfur Region
http://www.savedarfur.org/
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