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"Lars Eighner" |
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24 Aug 2007 02:52:43 AM |
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Medic Alert: no religious rites |
Is there such a thing as a "no religious rites" (or similar) medic-alert
bracelet, or something? I don't want the last thing I see to be some priest
doing voodoo.
The Austin city council turned the public hospital over to the Vatican some
years ago (in the form of the Seton order). They run the hospital as a
religious institution, and the proof of that is that the council had to come
up with a "Women's Hospital" because Seton wouldn't allow certain procedures
in the public hospital any more. So there is a secular hospital for women,
but none for men. Of course if I am conscious I am never going to go a
religious hospital because I do not any death-bed conversion tales. But
there is always a chance that I'd be scraped up while unconscious and taken
to the public (Seton-run) hospital.
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Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> <http://myspace.com/larseighner>
Countdown: 525 days to go.
What do you do when you're debranded?
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Medic Alert: no religious rites |
24 Aug 2007 09:13:15 PM |
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In article <slrnfct3io.i7a.usenet@debranded.larseighner.com>, Lars
Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote:
Is there such a thing as a "no religious rites" (or similar) medic-alert
bracelet, or something? I don't want the last thing I see to be some priest
doing voodoo.
The Austin city council turned the public hospital over to the Vatican some
years ago (in the form of the Seton order). They run the hospital as a
religious institution, and the proof of that is that the council had to come
up with a "Women's Hospital" because Seton wouldn't allow certain procedures
in the public hospital any more. So there is a secular hospital for women,
but none for men. Of course if I am conscious I am never going to go a
religious hospital because I do not any death-bed conversion tales. But
there is always a chance that I'd be scraped up while unconscious and taken
to the public (Seton-run) hospital.
I carry an "emergency care card" in my wallet. It gives my name,
address, phone, SSN, DL#, next of kin, insurance companies, DNR, organ
donor release, health problems, doctor's name, address, phone and
religious preference (none-atheist).
You can get one of these at most office supply big box stores like
Staples or Office Depot.
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Medic Alert: no religious rites |
24 Aug 2007 08:05:33 AM |
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Lars Eighner wrote:
Is there such a thing as a "no religious rites" (or similar)
medic-alert bracelet, or something? I don't want the last thing I
see to be some priest doing voodoo.
Nothing in a medic alert style.
I'm going in for some out-patient surgery on Monday and the hospital
actually had atheist as a choice for religious preference.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Medic Alert: no religious rites |
25 Aug 2007 08:42:57 PM |
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On 24 Aug 2007 07:52:43 GMT, Lars Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com>
wrote:
Is there such a thing as a "no religious rites" (or similar) medic-alert
bracelet, or something? I don't want the last thing I see to be some priest
doing voodoo.
The Austin city council turned the public hospital over to the Vatican some
years ago (in the form of the Seton order). They run the hospital as a
religious institution, and the proof of that is that the council had to come
up with a "Women's Hospital" because Seton wouldn't allow certain procedures
in the public hospital any more. So there is a secular hospital for women,
but none for men. Of course if I am conscious I am never going to go a
religious hospital because I do not any death-bed conversion tales. But
there is always a chance that I'd be scraped up while unconscious and taken
to the public (Seton-run) hospital.
Get a tattoo on your forehead.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Medic Alert: no religious rites |
24 Aug 2007 02:06:01 PM |
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On 24 Aug 2007 07:52:43 GMT, Lars Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com>
wrote:
Is there such a thing as a "no religious rites" (or similar) medic-alert
bracelet, or something? I don't want the last thing I see to be some priest
doing voodoo.
You can always have a custom message inscribed on one of those alert
tags - or, at worst, order a blank one and have a jeweler engrave it.
Of course if I am conscious I am never going to go a
religious hospital because I do not any death-bed conversion tales. But
there is always a chance that I'd be scraped up while unconscious and taken
to the public (Seton-run) hospital.
How about a tag that reads "Do NOT transport to any religious hospital
or institution"?
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| User: "Emma Pease" |
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| Title: Re: Medic Alert: no religious rites |
24 Aug 2007 07:35:43 PM |
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In article <ntauc3d49lukniiim3mo7o3efure0nubqq@4ax.com>, Al Klein wrote:
On 24 Aug 2007 07:52:43 GMT, Lars Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com>
wrote:
Is there such a thing as a "no religious rites" (or similar) medic-alert
bracelet, or something? I don't want the last thing I see to be some priest
doing voodoo.
You can always have a custom message inscribed on one of those alert
tags - or, at worst, order a blank one and have a jeweler engrave it.
Of course if I am conscious I am never going to go a
religious hospital because I do not any death-bed conversion tales. But
there is always a chance that I'd be scraped up while unconscious and taken
to the public (Seton-run) hospital.
How about a tag that reads "Do NOT transport to any religious hospital
or institution"?
Hmm, that might leave you dead if the only hospital is religious.
Most US hospital chaplains have a code of ethics that is somewhat
stricter than that of most US military chaplains (the former forbids
conversion attempts, the latter permits it on the non-affiliated).
Under HIPAA non-hospital ministers can't even know you are in hospital
unless the patient requests them (this has led ministers to remind
their flocks that they need to tell the hospital that their minister
can visit).
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|\* | Emma Pease Net Spinster
|_\/ Die Luft der Freiheit weht
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Medic Alert: no religious rites |
24 Aug 2007 08:30:37 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:35:43 +0000 (UTC), Emma Pease
<emma@kanpai.stanford.edu> wrote:
In article <ntauc3d49lukniiim3mo7o3efure0nubqq@4ax.com>, Al Klein wrote:
On 24 Aug 2007 07:52:43 GMT, Lars Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com>
wrote:
Is there such a thing as a "no religious rites" (or similar) medic-alert
bracelet, or something? I don't want the last thing I see to be some priest
doing voodoo.
You can always have a custom message inscribed on one of those alert
tags - or, at worst, order a blank one and have a jeweler engrave it.
Of course if I am conscious I am never going to go a
religious hospital because I do not any death-bed conversion tales. But
there is always a chance that I'd be scraped up while unconscious and taken
to the public (Seton-run) hospital.
How about a tag that reads "Do NOT transport to any religious hospital
or institution"?
Hmm, that might leave you dead if the only hospital is religious.
Most US hospital chaplains have a code of ethics that is somewhat
stricter than that of most US military chaplains (the former forbids
conversion attempts, the latter permits it on the non-affiliated).
Under HIPAA non-hospital ministers can't even know you are in hospital
unless the patient requests them (this has led ministers to remind
their flocks that they need to tell the hospital that their minister
can visit).
Well, there's an idea, then. "In case of emergency DO NOT notify any
clergy person!" or "In case of emergency notify any ethical humanist
after rendering medical aid."
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Medic Alert: no religious rites |
24 Aug 2007 08:30:53 AM |
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On 24 Aug 2007 07:52:43 GMT, in alt.atheism , Lars Eighner
<usenet@larseighner.com> in
<slrnfct3io.i7a.usenet@debranded.larseighner.com> wrote:
Is there such a thing as a "no religious rites" (or similar) medic-alert
bracelet, or something? I don't want the last thing I see to be some priest
doing voodoo.
The Austin city council turned the public hospital over to the Vatican some
years ago (in the form of the Seton order). They run the hospital as a
religious institution, and the proof of that is that the council had to come
up with a "Women's Hospital" because Seton wouldn't allow certain procedures
in the public hospital any more. So there is a secular hospital for women,
but none for men. Of course if I am conscious I am never going to go a
religious hospital because I do not any death-bed conversion tales. But
there is always a chance that I'd be scraped up while unconscious and taken
to the public (Seton-run) hospital.
You can certainly get your own medic alert dog tag. I have some
because of an odd medical condition*. You could put "atheist" on it
and you will likely be left alone. Priest don't try to do death bed
conversions, they administer last rites to believers. That said, you
may not want to wear a medic alert with non-medical information.
Seeing a priest might be bad, but slowing down EMTs is worse.
*One of my pupils reacts *really* slowly to light. It is called Aide's
Syndrome. It has no implications at all except that I am afraid of an
EMT thinking that my pupil is fix and dilated and assuming I have a
serious brain injury.
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Matt Silberstein
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