Religions > Atheism > Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life.
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Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life. |
Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life. I
first learned about meditation through my studies of Buddhism I
practice sitting as well as working meditation. I was lucky in the
sense that my job was a mindless one for the most part, so I was able
to practice working meditation without causing job problems. All the
tools discussed within this post are available for any person to use
irrespective of religious belief or lack thereof.
Meditation has 2 benefits. It allows one to calm and concentrate the
mind. this allows for the second benefit of vipassana or clear seeing.
Meditation on nothingness (zazen) helps quiet my "sticky brain" that
seems to hold onto everything. I can get positive results with just 15
to 20 minutes a day sitting meditation time. It helps if I sit at
regular time. I meditate on nothingness, although some meditate on an
objectIf you can get to a half hour meditation time, that is great. It
just takes time and practice. Morning works better for me than mid
day...there are less things distracting me earlier in the day usually.
The important point is to just do it and do it regularly and do not
make demands on your meditation practice or have expectations. Balance
is very important in life. We need some spiritual practice and some
physical as well. We sometimes forget we are spiritual beings residing
in physical bodies living in physical world and need effort in both
areas.
There are many other ways to use meditation besides traditional sitting
meditation. There is also working mediation and walking mediation
practices. If you do yoga, you can try combining meditation with your
Yoga practice. Mindfulness meditation all starts with being aware of
ones breath as someone mentioned earlier. Some practitioners do
compassion meditation throughout all their waking hours if they are
hard core.
"In every single gesture when getting up one thinks - may I get up to
deliver all sentient beings from suffering, when tying ones belt one
thinks - may I cultivate the belt of mindfulness, when coming down the
steps - may I descend to help take suffering from beings, when opening
a door - may the door of liberation be open for all sentient beings,
when closing the door - may the door of suffering be closed for all
sentient beings. In this way, every instance of thought is filled with
compassion."
Myself? I have done many years of working meditation and some walking
practice, but the compassion meditation is too much for me except in
very short bursts. Balance is the key for me. We should not look at
meditation as a magic bullet that will give us the power shoot
lightning bolts from our finger tips. As the old Buddhist saying
reminds us: Before enlightenment you chop wood and carry water ~ after
enlightenment you chop wood and carry water.
I also make use of meditation tools such as a meditation timer. One
type is a $10 CD that sounds a gong after a preset time. The other one
is an expensive $100 electric gong timer that can also be used as an
alarm clock or Yoga timer. Sometimes I might use the 15 minute preset
time just to get into a state conducive to meditation and when the gong
goes off keep sitting until I feel like getting up naturally. These are
usually the best sessions for me, although they require a person to
have some freedom of time. Seldom can I sit for longer than 30 to 35
minutes at a session due to time and my ability.
Any sort of timer is fine except one that jars you out of meditation in
an abusive and agitating manner. A timer frees one's mind from worrying
about such things. This should also apply to our alarm clocks in the
morning. I use a CD clock that plays birds singing. Start your day off
in peace. If you need further advice, there are many good books, videos
or tapes on meditating from your local library that can help. Also many
internet resources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zazen
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life. |
02 Jan 2007 08:46:14 PM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> writes:
Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life.
....even though you're still a babbling idiot who has the attention span of a
Planck time's duration.
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chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life. |
02 Jan 2007 01:50:06 PM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in news:1167752992.132912.106910
@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life.
Well, I took a different route. I didn't ***** up my old life, so I don't
need a new one.
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Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
In 1850, I believe, the church property in the United States, which paid no
tax, amounted to $87 million. In 1900, without a check, it is safe to say,
this property will reach a sum exceeding $3 billion. I would suggest the
taxation of all property equally.
-- Ulysses S. Grant
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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| Title: Re: Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life. |
02 Jan 2007 02:11:31 PM |
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On 2 Jan 2007 07:49:52 -0800, V <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life. I
first learned about meditation through my studies of Buddhism I
practice sitting as well as working meditation. I was lucky in the
sense that my job was a mindless one for the most part, so I was able
to practice working meditation without causing job problems. All the
tools discussed within this post are available for any person to use
irrespective of religious belief or lack thereof.
If you find your job mindless, why the ***** don't you get off your *****,
get an education, and find some meaningfull work?
Contemplating your belly button is no way to go through life.
You are little better than an alcoholic with a bottle.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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02 Jan 2007 09:02:20 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:11:31 GMT, AZ Nomad
<aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
- Refer: <slrneplf3j.t74.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>
On 2 Jan 2007 07:49:52 -0800, V <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life. I
first learned about meditation through my studies of Buddhism I
practice sitting as well as working meditation. I was lucky in the
sense that my job was a mindless one for the most part, so I was able
to practice working meditation without causing job problems. All the
tools discussed within this post are available for any person to use
irrespective of religious belief or lack thereof.
If you find your job mindless, why the ***** don't you get off your *****,
get an education, and find some meaningfull work?
Contemplating your belly button is no way to go through life.
You are little better than an alcoholic with a bottle.
Meditation is cheaper than Medication...
Although with "V", it seems to have freed his mind way too much.
It has filed for divorce, and lives in another town under an assumed
name.
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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02 Jan 2007 09:11:45 PM |
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 13:32:20 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Meditation is cheaper than Medication...
And stepping in front traffic is cheaper and quicker than both.
Where the ***** do you get the idea that you have to do one
or the other?
Although with "V", it seems to have freed his mind way too much.
It has filed for divorce, and lives in another town under an assumed
name.
Fucking waste. Stepping in front of a bus might be an improvement.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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03 Jan 2007 03:24:36 AM |
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 03:11:45 GMT, AZ Nomad
<aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
- Refer: <slrnepm7nh.tj5.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 13:32:20 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Meditation is cheaper than Medication...
And stepping in front traffic is cheaper and quicker than both.
Where the ***** do you get the idea that you have to do one
or the other?
What else would a penuric V have to but contemplate a Whisky label?
(Apart from self-abuse)
Although with "V", it seems to have freed his mind way too much.
It has filed for divorce, and lives in another town under an assumed
name.
Fucking waste. Stepping in front of a bus might be an improvement.
A considerable improvement for the world, overall.
I shall start a fund for the repairs to the bus, if that's the only
thing that is stopping such a joyous moment.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a newlife. |
02 Jan 2007 01:34:11 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 07:49:52 -0800, V wrote:
Meditation has played a very important role in giving me a new life.
<snip>
More off-topic dreck...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"For men become civilized, not in proportion to their
willingness to believe, but in proportion to their
readiness to doubt." - H.L. Mencken
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