| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Steve O" |
| Date: |
09 Feb 2006 10:01:26 PM |
| Object: |
Meltdowns |
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us why
we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming into the
night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he is forced to
confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
.
|
|
| User: "Lörd Phÿltêr" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 01:08:56 AM |
|
|
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> had me ROTFL with:
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us
why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming
into the night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he
is forced to confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
We've got GREAT "***** detectors"!!
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
.
|
|
|
| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 02:59:09 PM |
|
|
"Lörd Phÿltêr" <phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns976799E8C2767cogitoergosum@61.9.191.5:
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> had me ROTFL with:
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us
why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming
into the night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he
is forced to confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
We've got GREAT "***** detectors"!!
One of the easiest ways I deal with a die hard Christian is to explain to
them that I don't believe in their God. Their god is cruel, quite
psychotic and just a plain old mean *****. I then tell them that I don't
have a god like that.
pierce
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Doc Smartass" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
10 Feb 2006 05:18:36 PM |
|
|
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this
newsgroup. Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and
peace, asking us why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and
runs off screaming into the night, or dissolves into a complete and
utter meltdown when he is forced to confront and challenge or even
think about his beliefs. Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian
is a good recent example) And they all do meltdown, eventually.
(except perhaps duke - he's well overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
We have a higher melting point!
--
Doc Smartass XP - New Interface, Same Old *****
Keep THOR in THURSDAY!
.
|
|
|
| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
10 Feb 2006 10:19:59 PM |
|
|
"Doc Smartass" <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9766B09727760askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this
newsgroup. Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and
peace, asking us why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and
runs off screaming into the night, or dissolves into a complete and
utter meltdown when he is forced to confront and challenge or even
think about his beliefs. Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian
is a good recent example) And they all do meltdown, eventually.
(except perhaps duke - he's well overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
We have a higher melting point!
And, their arguments suck. Which is why so
many of them have become atheist while
none of us have become Christians, Muslims
or Jews. One of us did become a deist a
while back. He still stops by every now and
then to say hi and is made welcome.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
--
Doc Smartass XP - New Interface, Same Old *****
Keep THOR in THURSDAY!
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Woden" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
09 Feb 2006 10:03:21 PM |
|
|
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this
newsgroup. Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and
peace, asking us why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and
runs off screaming into the night, or dissolves into a complete and
utter meltdown when he is forced to confront and challenge or even
think about his beliefs. Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian
is a good recent example) And they all do meltdown, eventually.
(except perhaps duke - he's well overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
What "persuasive theist arguement"?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
09 Feb 2006 11:54:22 PM |
|
|
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us
why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming
into the night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he
is forced to confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
I am not sure meltdown is the right word. I think that they start to
realise that everything they have been told about Christianity is wrong and
that really starts the turmoil. Mother and Father are wrong, teachers,
religious leaders and more are wrong. Even friends are wrong. Millions of
people are wrong. When they try and deal with it by themselves they either
attack the source of their new found logic (atheists) or they attack
themselves because they realise that they have been duped and thus they are
stupid. All in all it leads to some very real problems. What they have to
realise is that they are not stupid, mo and dad and the rest have been
duped too, and that nothing about themselves is going to change. They are
frightened, afraid of being ostracized or wholly rejected. It is a tough
situation to be in. Once things are sorted out again and they come to
grips with the facts, then things are OK.
I firmly believe that many intelligent people have been pushed over the
edge into mental illness because of religion. There is an internal
struggle between what they have been taught and what is true and it is this
struggle between the two that causes amazing amounts of stress and the mind
copes with it by distorting reality into what we know as mental illness.
Just my 0.02. I could be totally wrong.
pierce
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
12 Feb 2006 10:48:52 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 05:54:22 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
<spamsucks@google.com> wrote in alt.atheism
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us
why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming
into the night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he
is forced to confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
I am not sure meltdown is the right word. I think that they start to
realise that everything they have been told about Christianity is wrong and
that really starts the turmoil. Mother and Father are wrong, teachers,
religious leaders and more are wrong. Even friends are wrong. Millions of
people are wrong. When they try and deal with it by themselves they either
attack the source of their new found logic (atheists) or they attack
themselves because they realise that they have been duped and thus they are
stupid. All in all it leads to some very real problems.
That it does, and things are much worse and more drawn out, pre
internet, when there are no sources available outside yourself.
What they have to
realise is that they are not stupid, mo and dad and the rest have been
duped too, and that nothing about themselves is going to change. They are
frightened, afraid of being ostracized or wholly rejected. It is a tough
situation to be in. Once things are sorted out again and they come to
grips with the facts, then things are OK.
It takes years to eliminate all the viral programming as the tentacles
are everywhere. The end phase of the viral elimination and
reprogramming is easy as the tendrils pop up in quite ludicrous areas.
I firmly believe that many intelligent people have been pushed over the
edge into mental illness because of religion. There is an internal
struggle between what they have been taught and what is true and it is this
struggle between the two that causes amazing amounts of stress and the mind
copes with it by distorting reality into what we know as mental illness.
Exactly.
Just my 0.02. I could be totally wrong.
You're not.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Michael Gray" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
08 Feb 2006 08:20:13 PM |
|
|
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 05:54:22 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
<spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
:
I firmly believe that many intelligent people have been pushed over the
edge into mental illness because of religion. There is an internal
:
I have witnessed two cases of this very phenomenon, both in females
who had been brought up as strict Cathoholics.
One in particular, spends more time in institutions than not, and as I
know her well, it is obvious to me, (as well as the psychologists
involved), that religious fear and guilt are the primary cause of her
illness.
Her sister is much the same, but is more robust, and less prone to
institutionalization.
I have contemplated having their mother arrested for child abuse, but
it is far too late for that.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Les Hellawell" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
10 Feb 2006 03:56:08 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 05:54:22 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
<spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
I firmly believe that many intelligent people have been pushed over the
edge into mental illness because of religion. There is an internal
struggle between what they have been taught and what is true and it is this
struggle between the two that causes amazing amounts of stress and the mind
copes with it by distorting reality into what we know as mental illness.
Just my 0.02. I could be totally wrong.
Well Peter Sutcliffe, The Yorkshire ripper, is a prime example of
this. He thought his imaginery god spoke to him and told him to
brutally murder women.
Had he been an atheist he would not have believed gods existed
let alone think he has a conversation with one and he would
still be driving his truck. Without doubt his belief there was a god
was directly responsible for the deaths of those poor women. I
have seen one of the shabby out of sight places where one of
his poor victims met her sordid horrific and lonely death. It
makes me shudder just to remember it now.
My cousin, who interviewed him extensively in prison ( a task
that he found personally disgusting) was convinced that Sutcliffe
really believed that he had conversed with this god and was not
just using it as some kind of excuse. Indeed he actually had
an argument with this god in a public park somewhere telling
god he was troubled by the task god had given him but god
ordered him to continue.
I guess in a thousand years the park will become a place
of catholic pilgrimage and we will have a grand church named
St. Peter Sutcliffe. This is, of course if the Catholic church is
still around.
--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "erikc" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 10:06:16 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 05:54:22 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com>
wrote:
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us
why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming
into the night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he
is forced to confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
I am not sure meltdown is the right word. I think that they start to
realise that everything they have been told about Christianity is wrong and
that really starts the turmoil. Mother and Father are wrong, teachers,
religious leaders and more are wrong. Even friends are wrong. Millions of
people are wrong. When they try and deal with it by themselves they either
attack the source of their new found logic (atheists) or they attack
themselves because they realise that they have been duped and thus they are
stupid. All in all it leads to some very real problems. What they have to
realise is that they are not stupid, mo and dad and the rest have been
duped too, and that nothing about themselves is going to change. They are
frightened, afraid of being ostracized or wholly rejected. It is a tough
situation to be in. Once things are sorted out again and they come to
grips with the facts, then things are OK.
I firmly believe that many intelligent people have been pushed over the
edge into mental illness because of religion. There is an internal
struggle between what they have been taught and what is true and it is this
struggle between the two that causes amazing amounts of stress and the mind
copes with it by distorting reality into what we know as mental illness.
Just my 0.02. I could be totally wrong.
pierce
I've suspected something like this all along.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
.
|
|
|
| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 10:26:25 AM |
|
|
erikc <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote in
news:eq2su1p82e85e6ricqf65q10lavtja7laa@4ax.com:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 05:54:22 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
<spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this
newsgroup. Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and
peace, asking us why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and
runs off screaming into the night, or dissolves into a complete and
utter meltdown when he is forced to confront and challenge or even
think about his beliefs. Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian
is a good recent example) And they all do meltdown, eventually.
(except perhaps duke - he's well overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
I am not sure meltdown is the right word. I think that they start to
realise that everything they have been told about Christianity is wrong
and that really starts the turmoil. Mother and Father are wrong,
teachers, religious leaders and more are wrong. Even friends are wrong.
Millions of people are wrong. When they try and deal with it by
themselves they either attack the source of their new found logic
(atheists) or they attack themselves because they realise that they have
been duped and thus they are stupid. All in all it leads to some very
real problems. What they have to realise is that they are not stupid,
mo and dad and the rest have been duped too, and that nothing about
themselves is going to change. They are frightened, afraid of being
ostracized or wholly rejected. It is a tough situation to be in. Once
things are sorted out again and they come to grips with the facts, then
things are OK.
I firmly believe that many intelligent people have been pushed over the
edge into mental illness because of religion. There is an internal
struggle between what they have been taught and what is true and it is
this struggle between the two that causes amazing amounts of stress and
the mind copes with it by distorting reality into what we know as mental
illness.
Just my 0.02. I could be totally wrong.
pierce
I've suspected something like this all along.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
It is a similar to what happened to HAL in 2001/2010.
pierce
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Uncle Vic" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
10 Feb 2006 12:40:54 AM |
|
|
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet R. Pierce Butler
(spamsucks@google.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this
newsgroup. Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and
peace, asking us why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and
runs off screaming into the night, or dissolves into a complete and
utter meltdown when he is forced to confront and challenge or even
think about his beliefs. Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian
is a good recent example) And they all do meltdown, eventually.
(except perhaps duke - he's well overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
I am not sure meltdown is the right word. I think that they start to
realise that everything they have been told about Christianity is
wrong and that really starts the turmoil. Mother and Father are
wrong, teachers, religious leaders and more are wrong. Even friends
are wrong. Millions of people are wrong. When they try and deal with
it by themselves they either attack the source of their new found
logic (atheists) or they attack themselves because they realise that
they have been duped and thus they are stupid. All in all it leads to
some very real problems. What they have to realise is that they are
not stupid, mo and dad and the rest have been duped too, and that
nothing about themselves is going to change. They are frightened,
afraid of being ostracized or wholly rejected. It is a tough
situation to be in. Once things are sorted out again and they come to
grips with the facts, then things are OK.
I firmly believe that many intelligent people have been pushed over
the edge into mental illness because of religion. There is an
internal struggle between what they have been taught and what is true
and it is this struggle between the two that causes amazing amounts of
stress and the mind copes with it by distorting reality into what we
know as mental illness.
Just my 0.02. I could be totally wrong.
pierce
That used to bother me. How could all those people be wrong. So I tried
to find someone who was right, something to be right about. I feel
better now.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Scott Richter" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 12:23:32 PM |
|
|
R. Pierce Butler <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
I am not sure meltdown is the right word. I think that they start to
realise that everything they have been told about Christianity is wrong
and that really starts the turmoil. [...] Once things are sorted out
again and they come to grips with the facts, then things are OK.
I prefer to think of people who have gone through the process of seeing
religion for what it really is as having been "saved". The obvious irony
is exquisite...
.
|
|
|
| User: "Steve O" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 02:17:32 PM |
|
|
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1halb7g.1ou7mumkcx4uwN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
R. Pierce Butler <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
I am not sure meltdown is the right word. I think that they start to
realise that everything they have been told about Christianity is wrong
and that really starts the turmoil. [...] Once things are sorted out
again and they come to grips with the facts, then things are OK.
I prefer to think of people who have gone through the process of seeing
religion for what it really is as having been "saved". The obvious irony
is exquisite...
What interests me is what stops people from seeing it for what it is.
I can't call anyone an idiot for falling for the brainwashing, any more than
I can call my daughter an idiot for believing in Santa- but once it has been
explained to them, how do they continue to fall for it?
The strangest aspect for myself is when I meet intelligent and educated
people who believe in God. (it doesn't happen very often - but there are a
few around)
Then again, if someone as brilliant as A.Conan Doyle can write superb stuff
like Sherlock Holmes and yet still fall for the Cottingley Fairy hoax I
suppose anything is possible.
.
|
|
|
| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 02:56:00 PM |
|
|
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:456v3dF58en7U1@individual.net:
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1halb7g.1ou7mumkcx4uwN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
R. Pierce Butler <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
I am not sure meltdown is the right word. I think that they start to
realise that everything they have been told about Christianity is
wrong and that really starts the turmoil. [...] Once things are
sorted out again and they come to grips with the facts, then things
are OK.
I prefer to think of people who have gone through the process of seeing
religion for what it really is as having been "saved". The obvious
irony is exquisite...
What interests me is what stops people from seeing it for what it is.
I can't call anyone an idiot for falling for the brainwashing, any more
than I can call my daughter an idiot for believing in Santa- but once it
has been explained to them, how do they continue to fall for it?
The strangest aspect for myself is when I meet intelligent and educated
people who believe in God. (it doesn't happen very often - but there are
a few around)
Then again, if someone as brilliant as A.Conan Doyle can write superb
stuff like Sherlock Holmes and yet still fall for the Cottingley Fairy
hoax I suppose anything is possible.
Doyle fell for a lot of sillyness in addition to Fairies. He thought one
could converse with the dead, and more. I have a book around here
somewhere that describes some of his wishful thinking.
pierce
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
12 Feb 2006 10:51:11 AM |
|
|
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 20:17:32 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1halb7g.1ou7mumkcx4uwN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
R. Pierce Butler <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
I am not sure meltdown is the right word. I think that they start to
realise that everything they have been told about Christianity is wrong
and that really starts the turmoil. [...] Once things are sorted out
again and they come to grips with the facts, then things are OK.
I prefer to think of people who have gone through the process of seeing
religion for what it really is as having been "saved". The obvious irony
is exquisite...
What interests me is what stops people from seeing it for what it is.
I can't call anyone an idiot for falling for the brainwashing, any more than
I can call my daughter an idiot for believing in Santa- but once it has been
explained to them, how do they continue to fall for it?
The high emotional levels, namely fear, render the cognitive functions
impotent.
The strangest aspect for myself is when I meet intelligent and educated
people who believe in God. (it doesn't happen very often - but there are a
few around)
Then again, if someone as brilliant as A.Conan Doyle can write superb stuff
like Sherlock Holmes and yet still fall for the Cottingley Fairy hoax I
suppose anything is possible.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
12 Feb 2006 10:49:45 AM |
|
|
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:23:32 -0800, (Scott
Richter) wrote in alt.atheism
R. Pierce Butler <spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
I am not sure meltdown is the right word. I think that they start to
realise that everything they have been told about Christianity is wrong
and that really starts the turmoil. [...] Once things are sorted out
again and they come to grips with the facts, then things are OK.
I prefer to think of people who have gone through the process of seeing
religion for what it really is as having been "saved". The obvious irony
is exquisite...
It is that.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Gail Futoran" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 07:29:31 PM |
|
|
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net...
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us
why we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming
into the night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he is
forced to confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
Home court advantage.
If I went into one of the christian newsgroups
and tried to convince them to convert to
atheism, I'd probably have as much luck as
the nuts who come here to convert atheists.
So ... I think it has more to do with the
kind of person who tries to convince others
to change their core beliefs, rather than we
(as atheists) are more resistant to "meltdown"
than the typical christian or jew or whatever.
Gail
aa#2247
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "HotelCharlieOne" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
10 Feb 2006 01:47:16 PM |
|
|
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in news:452hgtF4ksc4U1
@individual.net:
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
We're atheists. We don't meltdown. We've been told countless times
that
we're goring to Hell. But we're rough an tough. We can take the HEAT.
We won't melt.
Oh yeah, and most of their arguments are base on circumstantial
evidence
and just don't hold up to tough examination.
Go in Peace
--
Go ahead, hate your neighbor
Go ahead, cheat a friend
Do it in the name of Heaven
You can justify it in the end
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Parsifal" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
10 Feb 2006 12:53:30 AM |
|
|
BTW, what happened to J Young?
.
|
|
|
| User: "LC" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
10 Feb 2006 08:49:14 AM |
|
|
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1139554410.602450.131100@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
BTW, what happened to J Young?
The troll that uses that nym is back to posting as his über-bigot sock "IBen
Getiner" <Lappcatt@aol.com>, as well as playing around with a new 'tribute'
nym:
From: "LC ( lappcatt )" <LCisnot@bluebottle.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Seriously, do you people really worship cows?
Date: 8 Feb 2006 22:09:01 -0800
Message-ID: <1139465341.027651.122440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.5
LC~ Knows that "J Young" never goes away, he just creates new sockpuppets.
"Everyday a different computer, everyday a different Id (those may have
to be repeated after I run out of names and numbers with my free
accounts with hotmail and yahoo and volcanomail and msn ect...) which
will render a killfile absolutely useless."
From: "simon sez" <simonsez@volcanomail.com> aka "J Young", "IBen", the
"Professor", and a cast of thousands (of sockpuppets).
Message-ID: <1124475530.860458.5110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Michael Gray" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
07 Feb 2006 05:44:54 AM |
|
|
On 9 Feb 2006 22:53:30 -0800, "Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1139554410.602450.131100@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
BTW, what happened to J Young?
As the Pom's say, he's quite likely spending time at Her Majesty's
Pleasure.
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "chibiabos" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
10 Feb 2006 06:07:13 PM |
|
|
In article <452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net>, Steve O
<stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us why
we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming into the
night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he is forced to
confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
I melted down once.
Turns out it was the rum.
-chib
--
Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Michael Gray" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
07 Feb 2006 05:43:02 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 04:01:26 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net>
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us why
we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming into the
night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he is forced to
confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
That our immunization is up-to-date?
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Les Hellawell" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
10 Feb 2006 03:38:47 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 04:01:26 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us why
we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming into the
night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he is forced to
confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
The very fact that we exist and do not share their belief (the belief
of any religion) is a shock to the system to them and it question
their belief and faith. Thus by not having this faith we threaten
theirs a faith to which is precious to them and the very centre of
their life.
How is it possible for somebody else not to have this faith at the
centre of their life? Are they wrong or - horror of horrors 'am *I*
wrong' begins to whirl in their subconscience disturbing the flow
of blood
I guess they feel the need, perhaps unconsciously, to try
and prove to themselves that we are wrong or must have some
other substitute belief that we do not even admit themselves.
Hence they come here not so much to challenge us but to
try and reaffirm their faith to themselves.
So here they come attacking our not needing a faith or
that because we need a faith it is whatever. They have lost the
debate even before they begin as we patiently explain we have no
alternative beliefs nor even a need for such beliefs and get on quite
happily without one. This must frighten them even more and, as
you argue they 'melt-down' and in some cases loose control and
start being offensive or fall back to chanting the same mantra
over and over again (or Biblical quotes) like it was some kind of
defensive force field or cross they are waving to ward of these
demons that they believe. Chung is a prime example of this, "I
am pretending I am not hearing you stance"
Thus they, hear no truth, see no truth, speak no truth.
--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "erikc" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 10:04:04 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 04:01:26 -0000, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us why
we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming into the
night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he is forced to
confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
To paraphrase a saying, "knowledge talks, ***** walks".
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Rick" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
09 Feb 2006 10:59:05 PM |
|
|
Steve O wrote in message <452hgtF4ksc4U1@individual.net>...
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
Usual scenario - theist bounces in, preaching love and peace, asking us why
we reject God- gets his arse firmly smacked and runs off screaming into the
night, or dissolves into a complete and utter meltdown when he is forced to
confront and challenge or even think about his beliefs.
Seen it happen so many times. (Truecristian is a good recent example)
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Do you have Frederic in your killfile?
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
- Rick
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
09 Feb 2006 10:32:04 PM |
|
|
Steve O wrote:
And they all do meltdown, eventually. (except perhaps duke - he's well
overdue for a meltdown)
This kind of meltdown starts with the brain. This explains convincingly why
puke is immune.
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Not even when confronted with the most persuasive theist argument.
Now, what do you think that tells us?
The only question left seems to be: Is atheism so strong, or is the jebus
death cult so weak? ;)
As for me, I can live with both options but somewhat prefer to assume #2.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "wildbluskies" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 07:52:49 PM |
|
|
Steve O wrote:
I've seen a few meltdowns since I first started reading this newsgroup.
But I've never, ever seen an atheist go into meltdown.
Dont worry YOU will see plenty of "meltdowns" when all heathen atheists
start burning in everlasting HELLFIRE. Are you man enough to admit
atheists are wrong about GOD? You can live in denial all your life, but
on the final judgement day all atheists will pay for their vile,
vulgar, profane blasphemies against the LORD.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Scott Richter" |
|
| Title: Re: Meltdowns |
11 Feb 2006 08:03:43 PM |
|
|
wildbluskies <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dont worry YOU will see plenty of "meltdowns" when all heathen atheists
start burning in everlasting HELLFIRE. Are you man enough to admit
atheists are wrong about GOD? You can live in denial all your life, but
on the final judgement day all atheists will pay for their vile,
vulgar, profane blasphemies against the LORD.
Gosh, thanks for the fairy tale, grandpa. Now it's time for your meds...
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
