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"Iain" |
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12 Mar 2007 06:03:34 AM |
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Members' gallery |
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
~Iain
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| User: "V" |
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| Title: Re: Members' gallery |
11 Apr 2007 08:05:40 AM |
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Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
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V:
Well, if you guys had moved to a web based forum as I had originally
suggested instead of this archaic thing the photos could be posted
without any problems..
Sorry to read about all your hassles Mark. I guess that explains some
of your mean spirited actions towards others.
May I suggest you turn your life around Mark and reduce such hassles
and complexities?
We seldom question if more of a "good thing" is desirable for our
supposed happiness in life. The question, that Voluntary Simplicity
helps answer, is the question of what IS enough so we may be happy
right now in the present. A life of Voluntary Simplicity focuses our
attention on the fact that "everything we own take a little piece ~
peace of us." And in doing so, we can let go of peace and life
destroying rituals and possessions and replace them with a contented,
satisfied and complete life in the present moment instead of a life
that revolves around the next thing to be acquired in hopes of
satisfying our insatiable appetites.
Greed is never satisfied by attainment - it is only satisfied by
contentment. This orientation of conscious thought to simplify ones
life in whatever activity the individual is engaged in is the
foundation of success when it comes to simple living...mindfulness of
our direction in life. Voluntary Simplicity is the tool I use to
counter this desire to constantly expand my life with more
complexities, stress and problems and to live within my comfortable
boundaries for a serene life. I started with 12 step programs in 1974
to work on various addictions. As such, I find a less complex life
very useful to my addictions recovery work. The 12 Step programs do
actually touch on the VS topic, although it is not specifically called
VS. Here are a couple of quotes that can be taken as their efforts at
applying VS to one's life.
.........From page 76 of the 12 & 12 of Alcoholics Anonymous........
"The chief activator of our defects has been a self-centered fear-
primarily that we would lose something we already possessed or would
fail to get something we demanded. Living upon a basis of unsatisfied
demands, we were in a state of continual disturbance and frustrations.
Therefore, no peace was to be had unless we could find a means of
reducing these demands."
End of Quote
I cannot tell you that I have no unsatisfied demands in my life; but,
I will say that since joining the simple living movent my unsatisfied
demands can now be counted on one hand, whereas in my prior life, I
needed a notebook to record them all.
.........Taken from pages 122-125 of the 12 & 12 of Alcoholics
Anonymous.......
"In later life he (the addict) finds that real happiness is not to be
found in just trying to be a number one man, or even a first-rater in
the heartbreaking struggle for money, romance, or self-importance. He
learns that he can be content as long as he plays well whatever cards
life deal him. He's still ambitious, but not absurdly so, because he
can now see and accept actual reality. He is willing to stay right
size."
End of quote.
I find VS to be a very important state of mind to be in. It shows
which direction a person is pointed in with their life. The same way
an addiction has 3 roads to go down, so it goes with VS. An addict can
be expanding their addiction, freezing their addiction or reducing
their addiction. A person suffering from an overly stressed or
complicated life can be expanding the complications, freezing the
complications or reducing the complications. Thoreau says that we need
food, shelter, fuel and clothes as necessities. In modern times, I
will add transportation to the list depending on your local.
Everything else is pretty much optional. If we have these needs met
and are not happy, then their is no end to our supposed needs for that
elusive state of happiness that we seek. We all seem to have no
shortage of supposed needs or wants as complexity addicts. We only
want to go in one direction...more.
Life does not go in one direction no matter how wealthy you are, life
is always up and down. My goal in life prior to joining the VS
movement was to get rich and buy anything I wanted to. My goal now is
to live within my means, comfortably fit within my space and
gratefully accept my current position in life. VS has contributed to
this recovery and continues to do so each day. I make it a practice to
wake up with VS, eat lunch with VS and to go to bed with VS the same
way I do with my 12 step program work and without this constant
awareness of how daily decisions affect my VS or 12 Step program, I'd
be back on the road to my prior sick life.
Do not confuse VS with the misnomer of 'Voluntary Poverty' VS is not
about living low, it is about making choices and balanced living. You
get out what you put in with VS. If you do not cut back enough on the
complexities that rob you of living life, then all you have is your
same complex life back that you started with. If you cut out too many
complexities and are unhappy or bored, don't worry, you can always add
them back. We suffer from no shortage of stress and complexities of
living, especially if you have a family. Life gives us plenty of
problems for free. You can even trade the complexities that offer no
reward other than more problems for new complexities that offer rich
rewards or good feelings.
For instance, I gave up some of my computer compulsion time and put
that time into yoga class and meditation. I started with VS in 1996
by canceling some subscriptions to 5 business newspapers and magazines
and pulled out about 50-60 rosebushes that we could not care for.
After that, I saw the beneficial results and kept at it, questioning
everything and experimenting with which complexities could be removed
and which needed to stay in order to live a balanced life. We make
what we want of VS, there are no rules other than if you do not do
enough you do not get any results. There are no VS police to boss you
around and tell you what is right or wrong. We have to decide this for
ourselves as individuals. As I have said before, the program is the
final judge of your success, not you, not me, not anyone else.
A lady wrote in asking if she could be into VS and still have a gold
chain? Yes, we can have a gold chain, we can even have 10 gold chains
if we please. Can a person have 100 gold chains and still be into VS?
No, I could not say with a straight face I was into VS and own 100
gold chains. But, the person that has scaled back from owning 1000
gold chains could definitely say they have applied VS to their
lifestyle by cutting back from 1000 to 100 gold chains. It is all
relative and all up to us and what we wish to derive from our efforts
at simplicity. Another fellow posted how he wanted a canoe, but his
wife said he could not have one and be a VS devotee.
It is not up to others to tell us what we can have - our recovery or
VS program will tell us. If the canoe would comfortably fit within a
financial budget, and a person has the comfortable space required to
store it and the object does not cause a person any undue harm or
problems such as maintenance that they cannot upkeep, legal problems
or rob them of time they cannot afford to give, I see no problem in
having it. A person wrote me and asked, "Is writing your long 5 page
post really simple living? " My response was, "Yes, writing 5 pages or
even 5000 pages is vastly superior to living the old, sick life that I
used to live." Critics are all around us and work to tear down
programs instead of building them up. Either our efforts at simplicity
or recovery will promote our peace or destroy our peace - so put peace
first. Always listen to your recovery program instead of the critics -
it has the final say.
Below are some definitions of VS from the book The Circle of
Simplicity ~ Andrews.
"For me, voluntary simplicity is living consciously, trying to
eliminate the unnecessary, the superficial clutter. It is trying to
live morally and ethically in the global economy by using less."
"I think that voluntary simplicity as living on purpose, making sure I
have the time to do the things I want to do, not wishing my time
away."
"I think voluntary simplicity is being true to yourself, true to the
environment. It's finding that place for every facet of my life and
defining how much is enough. For me it is spiritual."
"It's choosing to enhance one's life by surrounding yourself with what
really brings you fulfillment. It is defining my own standard of
success and prosperity, community and fun."
"Voluntary simplicity is balancing the realities of my life (limited
economics, time and energy) with my values and implementing them into
a lifestyle that is comfortable and rewarding. I think voluntary
simplicity is an "art of living." I believe it is an art to live, to
be true to yourself and to be open to innovation."
An in-depth discussion and clarification of the term "Voluntary
Simplicity" by Philip Slater
All personal solutions to wealth addiction involve one form or another
of what has come to be called Voluntary Simplicity. This doesn't not
necessarily mean going "back to nature" and does not mean living in
poverty and discomfort, although some people may elect forms of
simplicity that would be highly uncomfortable for the rest of us.
Above all, it does not mean forcing yourself to give up something you
really enjoy, out of some pious conviction that it's the "right thing
to do." Voluntary Simplicity merely means trying to rid one's life as
much as possible of material clutter so as to concentrate on more
important things: creativity, human survival and development,
community well-being, play.
The key word in Voluntary Simplicity is "voluntary," which means that
the giving up of the material clutter is not coerced either from the
outside or from the inside. As Andre Vanden Broeck observers, only
those who have experienced affluence are in a position to have a
"choice divorced from need." The poor aren't in a position to make
such a choice-they are stuck with a scarcity that is neither simple
nor voluntary.
Nor is Voluntary Simplicity coerced from within, for to deprive
yourself out of some ideological conviction is merely to feed the Ego
Mafia. The word "simplicity" may have overtones that arouse our
suspicions: a vaguely puritan ring, conjuring up images of drab
smocks, self-righteousness and flagellation. But if this is in the
spirit in which Voluntary Simplicity is embraced the result will most
certainly be noxious.
There is an old Zen story about two monks traveling together who
encounter a nude woman trying to cross a stream. One of them carries
her across, much to the consternation of the other. They continue in
silence for a couple of hours until the second monk can stand it no
longer. "How," he asks "could you expose yourself to such temptation?"
The first monk replies, "I put her down two hours ago. You're still
carrying her."
Addiction is internal; if you experiment sincerely with Voluntary
Simplicity and find yourself still thinking of money and possessions,
your simplicity is a fraud and you might just as well go back to
pursuing wealth until you've had your fill of it. To achieve its goal,
Voluntary simplicity must be undertaken in the spirit, not of
Puritanism or self-flagellation, but out of adventure. All adventurers
throughout history have, after all, been people who abandoned
comforts, possessions, love and security to seek new experiences in
faraway places.
Richard Gregg, who coined the term in 1936, once complained to Gandhi
that while he had no trouble giving up most things, he could not let
go of his books. Gandhi told he shouldn't try: "As long as you derive
inner help and comfort from anything, you should keep it." He pointed
out that if you give things up out of a sense of duty or self-
sacrifice they continue to preoccupy you and clutter your mind. To
talk of "denying oneself" is to use the language of despotism.
Simplicity is an affirmation, not a denial of oneself.
End of quote
V writes:
It is always nice to have our own work confirmed by others that have
gone before us as well as those that follow us. Many years ago I
coined the phrase "Everything you own takes a little piece ~ peace of
you." A couple years ago I came across Richard Gregg's original work
on Voluntary Simplicity penned in 1936 and this is what he said on the
subject of peace disturbance or as he termed it "SIMPLICITY A KIND OF
PSYCHOLOGICAL HYGIENE".
Taken from the original work:
Pendle Hill Essays Number Three
THE VALUE OF VOLUNTARY SIMPLICITY
RICHARD B. GREGG
Acting Director of Pendle Hill 1935-36
Chapter X. SIMPLICITY A KIND OF PSYCHOLOGICAL HYGIENE
There is one further value to simplicity. It may be regarded as a
mode of psychological hygiene. Just as eating too much is harmful to
the body, even though the quality of all the food eaten is excellent,
so it seems that there may be a limit to the number of things or the
amount of property which a person may own and yet keep himself
psychologically healthy. The possession of many things and of great
wealth creates so many possible choices and decisions to be made every
day that it becomes a nervous strain. Often the choices have to be
narrow. The Russian physiologist, Pavlov, while doing experiments on
conditioned reflexes with dogs, presented one dog with the necessity
of making many choices involving fine discriminations, and the dog
actually had a nervous breakdown and had to be sent away for six
months' rest before he became normal again.
Subsequently, American psychologists, by similar methods, produced
neuroses in sheep by requiring many repetitions of mere inhibition and
action; and as inhibition is an element in all choices, they believe
it was that element which may have caused the neurosis in Pavlov's
dog. Of course, people are more highly organized than dogs and are
easily able to weigh more possibilities and endure more inhibitions
and make more choices and nice distinctions without strain, but
nevertheless making decisions is work and can be overdone.
I'll leave you with a snip of wisdom from Thoreau from his book
Walden.
"The twelve labors of Hercules were trifling in comparison with those
which my neighbors have undertaken; for they were only twelve, and had
an end; but I could never see that these men slew or captured any
monster or finished any labor. They had no friend Iolaus to burn with
a hot iron the root of hydra's head, but as soon as one head is
crushed, two spring up."
Also see: http://www.simpleliving.net/forums/
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Members' gallery |
11 Apr 2007 12:10:29 PM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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V:
Well,
Idiot.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Members' gallery |
11 Apr 2007 05:13:02 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <584j4bF2fde8vU1@mid.individual.net>
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176296740.039096.250270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
--
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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11 Apr 2007 07:16:00 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:7anq13577m7gu0culm71m1ju5u71mmu7m3@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <584j4bF2fde8vU1@mid.individual.net>
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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11 Apr 2007 08:23:33 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:16:00 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <585c0oF2fmnopU1@mid.individual.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:7anq13577m7gu0culm71m1ju5u71mmu7m3@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <584j4bF2fde8vU1@mid.individual.net>
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176296740.039096.250270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
--
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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12 Apr 2007 01:22:21 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:16:00 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <585c0oF2fmnopU1@mid.individual.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:7anq13577m7gu0culm71m1ju5u71mmu7m3@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <584j4bF2fde8vU1@mid.individual.net>
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176296740.039096.250270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Iowa 3, Houston 1 (April 11)
NEXT GAME: Friday, April 13 vs. Iowa, 7:35
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Members' gallery |
18 Apr 2007 11:04:47 AM |
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On 12 Apr 2007 01:22:21 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:16:00 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <585c0oF2fmnopU1@mid.individual.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:7anq13577m7gu0culm71m1ju5u71mmu7m3@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <584j4bF2fde8vU1@mid.individual.net>
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176296740.039096.250270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
Ill repute.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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18 Apr 2007 06:59:40 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:04:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <kcgc239irb3lht60gulq60p51q5k52o9u0@4ax.com>
On 12 Apr 2007 01:22:21 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:16:00 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <585c0oF2fmnopU1@mid.individual.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:7anq13577m7gu0culm71m1ju5u71mmu7m3@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <584j4bF2fde8vU1@mid.individual.net>
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176296740.039096.250270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
Ill repute.
....Judge Judy then.
--
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| User: "stoney" |
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23 Apr 2007 01:51:50 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:29:40 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:04:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <kcgc239irb3lht60gulq60p51q5k52o9u0@4ax.com>
On 12 Apr 2007 01:22:21 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:16:00 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <585c0oF2fmnopU1@mid.individual.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:7anq13577m7gu0culm71m1ju5u71mmu7m3@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <584j4bF2fde8vU1@mid.individual.net>
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176296740.039096.250270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
Ill repute.
...Judge Judy then.
JJ gives top notch BJ's?
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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23 Apr 2007 04:37:22 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:51:50 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <n10q23pf2oi0r6ahq1v0gvqjakebq60ugr@4ax.com>
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:29:40 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:04:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <kcgc239irb3lht60gulq60p51q5k52o9u0@4ax.com>
On 12 Apr 2007 01:22:21 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:16:00 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <585c0oF2fmnopU1@mid.individual.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:7anq13577m7gu0culm71m1ju5u71mmu7m3@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <584j4bF2fde8vU1@mid.individual.net>
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176296740.039096.250270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
Ill repute.
...Judge Judy then.
JJ gives top notch BJ's?
In your dreams, mate!
--
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 May 2007 05:31:37 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:07:22 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:51:50 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <n10q23pf2oi0r6ahq1v0gvqjakebq60ugr@4ax.com>
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:29:40 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:04:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <kcgc239irb3lht60gulq60p51q5k52o9u0@4ax.com>
On 12 Apr 2007 01:22:21 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:16:00 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <585c0oF2fmnopU1@mid.individual.net>
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:7anq13577m7gu0culm71m1ju5u71mmu7m3@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
- Refer: <584j4bF2fde8vU1@mid.individual.net>
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176296740.039096.250270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
Ill repute.
...Judge Judy then.
JJ gives top notch BJ's?
In your dreams, mate!
Dreams or nightmares?
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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04 May 2007 07:15:46 PM |
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On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:31:37 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:07:22 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:51:50 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:29:40 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:04:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
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On 12 Apr 2007 01:22:21 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:16:00 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
Ill repute.
...Judge Judy then.
JJ gives top notch BJ's?
In your dreams, mate!
Dreams or nightmares?
Her dreams, your nightmares.
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On Sat, 05 May 2007 09:45:46 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:31:37 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <t1dn3393ka4nl2od5oarl8q4av0jq9a75p@4ax.com>
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:07:22 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
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Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
Ill repute.
...Judge Judy then.
JJ gives top notch BJ's?
In your dreams, mate!
Dreams or nightmares?
Her dreams, your nightmares.
Wouldn't know since I rarely pay attention to the idiot box.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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11 May 2007 05:31:36 PM |
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 07:53:46 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
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On Sat, 05 May 2007 09:45:46 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:31:37 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <t1dn3393ka4nl2od5oarl8q4av0jq9a75p@4ax.com>
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:07:22 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
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Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
Ill repute.
...Judge Judy then.
JJ gives top notch BJ's?
In your dreams, mate!
Dreams or nightmares?
Her dreams, your nightmares.
Wouldn't know since I rarely pay attention to the idiot box.
Just think of all those rare infomercials that you are missing!
And the turgid religious donation requests that will go unwatched!
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 08:01:36 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 11 May 2007 07:53:46 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <lq0943h7eui8l8aa94nbvfk5dqe7lh1ucl@4ax.com>
On Sat, 05 May 2007 09:45:46 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:31:37 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <t1dn3393ka4nl2od5oarl8q4av0jq9a75p@4ax.com>
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:07:22 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
Ill repute.
...Judge Judy then.
JJ gives top notch BJ's?
In your dreams, mate!
Dreams or nightmares?
Her dreams, your nightmares.
Wouldn't know since I rarely pay attention to the idiot box.
Just think of all those rare infomercials that you are missing!
And the turgid religious donation requests that will go unwatched!
It's a 'sacrifice' *someone* has to make.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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On 12 Apr 2007 01:22:21 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<patrick@eris.io.com> wrote:
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:16:00 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:10:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
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V:
Well,
Idiot.
Is that brain damaged cretin still posting here?
Yeah, looks like he's starting up again.
The freak must have absconded from his court imposed rehab.
Which particular court?
The Court of The Crimson King.
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19 Apr 2007 12:08:50 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:05:40 -0700, V wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
V:
Well, if you guys had moved to a web based forum as I had originally
suggested instead of this archaic thing the photos could be posted
without any problems..
Usenet cannot be "moved" you moron.
What an arrogant ***** you are that you can't even been to concieve of the
idea that *you don't understand something and that *other people are right
while *you are wrong.
Sorry to read about all your hassles Mark. I guess that explains some
of your mean spirited actions towards others.
May I suggest you turn your life around Mark and reduce such hassles
and complexities?
My I suggest you shove your suggestions up your *****?
You mean to tell me you read all that I wrote about staying at the side of
a dying friend and taking care of him and what you got out of it is I have
problems?
***** you you self-absorbed *****.
I'll try putting this in simpler terms. I'm better than you. I am more
moral, more ethical, more compassionate, more loyal to friends, and mare
caring for others than you will ever be.
I *know what kind of person I am. I've survived the worst natural disaster
in US history, saw my city almost totally destroyed, had my best friend
die in a degrading and humiliating way, and I survived with my morals and
ethics intact. I may be having emotional repercussions from the intense
stress of living through Katrina and Rita and the flooding of New Orleans
and the death of my best friend. But I know in the category of being a
decnet human being, you can't hold a candle to me.
Get it yet you self-absorbed *****?
I. Am. Better. Than. You.
You have NOTHING to offer me. You are rude, insulting, vicious, uncaring,
condescending, love to pick fights, incapable of admitting error,
arrogant to the point of lecturing people with years of computer
experience about Usenet when you clearly do not have a shred of
understanding of the system, post off-topic dreck where it is not
appropriate nor wanted, go out of your way to insult a community by
"stealing" a fake number, asserting you are a member of a community you
are not only *not* a part of but spend every post pissing on and
insulting, and not being content to ***** on us in our own newsgroup, you
spread the shitting around by cross-posting it to multiple groups.
You are mentally disturbed, arrogant as hell ***** who *ENJOYS* pissing
people off because you want to feel superior to them. You *brag about
being kicked off multiple online groups and *brag about the responses you
get here that *you *deliberately *provoke.
Further, your "advice" is drivel. It's just some jumbled crap you tossed
together out of some weird misunderstanding of Buddhism and it makes no
fucking *SENSE.
You are *useless.
I *know what kind of person I am. I know what I've done. I know what I'm
capable of. I don't believe for a *second you have lifted a single lazy
finger nor gotten off your fat lazy ***** to help anyone ever. You think
you're "helping" by posting gibberish "advice" but that's just you trying
to convince yourself you're more than an self-absorbed alcoholic who
doesn't actually give a flying ***** about anybody except yourself.
I'm better than you. I know I am. I know most all the people here are
better than you. I in particular those of us you like to name such as
Robyn are far better than you. And that's why you don't like us. That's
alcoholic thinking. You *have to tear others down to make yourself feel
better about your addiction.
You are *NOT* in recovery and you do *NOT* have help to offer others.
You. Need. Help.
But you're in denial V. You have been for some time. If you aren't going
out and getting stinking drunk on a regular basis (and I'd bet money you
do), you're nothing but a "white knuckle drunk".
And if you know AA literature, you know what I mean.
Do you even attend meetings? Or is that something else you lie about?
I've dealt with an unfortunately large number of alcoholics over the
years. I can tell from your behavior that at some point, maybe not
tomorrow, maybe not next week, you're going to crash. And badly.
Further, you know I'm right. That's why your hostility toward me continues
to grow.
And I notice you've never even tried to explain away that post you made
when you were quite obviously drunk.
You're in denial. And you use alt.atheism and other online forums to
re-inforce the denial. You use the claims that people are "prejudice" as a
wall to keep away the growing realization that you are in denial about
your problem.
Your behavior is *textbook alcoholic.
So you go ahead and keep posting. Keep trying to stave off that growing
recognition that you're lying to yourself. It means your fall--which will
come--will be big.
And maybe that's what you need. Maybe you need to fall so hard you hit
rock bottom. Sometimes, that's the only thing that gets through an
alcoholic/addict's denial.
So go ahead. Play your online games. Keep trashing other people, put them
down, insult them. Fight to stay in denial. At this point, I've come to
despise you enough I *hope your fall is catastrophic. You deserve it.
AA#2
That's still not your number. And it never will be. Posting it over and
over like an incantation to make it yours is yet another indication of
alcoholism. Go read the AA literature. There's a lot in there about the
magical thinking of drunks such as yourself.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:03:34 -0700, Iain wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
At the moment, it's waiting for me to get a broadband hookup. Pushing
pictures around on a modem is a nightmare. I'm *supposed to be able to get
a satellite connection this month but I haven't heard anything yet.
Sorry. The website got caught in the aftermath of Katrina, Bob's death,
handling his estate, moving, and such. I haven't been terribly settled for
a while..
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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14 Mar 2007 06:44:05 AM |
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On 12 Mar, 14:18, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:03:34 -0700, Iain wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
At the moment, it's waiting for me to get a broadband hookup. Pushing
pictures around on a modem is a nightmare. I'm *supposed to be able to get
a satellite connection this month but I haven't heard anything yet.
Sorry. The website got caught in the aftermath of Katrina, Bob's death,
handling his estate, moving, and such. I haven't been terribly settled for
a while..
Do you still have that picture of me (Iain), as a vampire? I've been
looking all over for that (I was 17 in that and now I'm having my
quarter life crisis at 23).
~Iain
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14 Mar 2007 09:08:07 AM |
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"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On 12 Mar, 14:18, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:03:34 -0700, Iain wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
At the moment, it's waiting for me to get a broadband hookup. Pushing
pictures around on a modem is a nightmare. I'm *supposed to be able to
get
a satellite connection this month but I haven't heard anything yet.
Sorry. The website got caught in the aftermath of Katrina, Bob's death,
handling his estate, moving, and such. I haven't been terribly settled
for
a while..
Do you still have that picture of me (Iain), as a vampire? I've been
looking all over for that (I was 17 in that and now I'm having my
quarter life crisis at 23).
23! Dang :(
I am almost literally twice your age <sigh>
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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14 Mar 2007 10:07:38 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On 12 Mar, 14:18, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:03:34 -0700, Iain wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
At the moment, it's waiting for me to get a broadband hookup. Pushing
pictures around on a modem is a nightmare. I'm *supposed to be able to get
a satellite connection this month but I haven't heard anything yet.
Sorry. The website got caught in the aftermath of Katrina, Bob's death,
handling his estate, moving, and such. I haven't been terribly settled for
a while..
Do you still have that picture of me (Iain), as a vampire? I've been
looking all over for that (I was 17 in that and now I'm having my
quarter life crisis at 23).
23! Dang :(
I am almost literally twice your age <sigh>
I was twice his age (at present) six years ago. Damn kids. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Peoria 3 (SO) (March 10)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 16 at Toronto, 6:35
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14 Mar 2007 10:14:13 AM |
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On 14 Mar, 14:08, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173872645.682561.220760@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On 12 Mar, 14:18, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:03:34 -0700, Iain wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
At the moment, it's waiting for me to get a broadband hookup. Pushing
pictures around on a modem is a nightmare. I'm *supposed to be able to
get
a satellite connection this month but I haven't heard anything yet.
Sorry. The website got caught in the aftermath of Katrina, Bob's death,
handling his estate, moving, and such. I haven't been terribly settled
for
a while..
Do you still have that picture of me (Iain), as a vampire? I've been
looking all over for that (I was 17 in that and now I'm having my
quarter life crisis at 23).
23! Dang :(
I am almost literally twice your age <sigh>
It's more like I'm mourning the final moment in my life when I might
pass as a teenager, or consider myself part of that social generation.
Youth is a "theme" of my identity, with my ruffled schoolboy hair and
so on.
Before the age of 20, aging is an optimistic process, as if an unseen
hand is trying to implement a vision of a complete person : The balls
drop, the stubble thickens, and the whole design becomes complete.
23 is a significant age because that's the time when you first realise
that the difference between yourself now and yourself in the past
consists only of decay.
The unseen hand has gone away and now there's nothing happening at all
except wear and tear. It's like the early stages of some deadly
disease.
~Iain
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14 Mar 2007 12:08:09 PM |
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"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173885253.456893.49920@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 14 Mar, 14:08, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173872645.682561.220760@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On 12 Mar, 14:18, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:03:34 -0700, Iain wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
At the moment, it's waiting for me to get a broadband hookup. Pushing
pictures around on a modem is a nightmare. I'm *supposed to be able to
get
a satellite connection this month but I haven't heard anything yet.
Sorry. The website got caught in the aftermath of Katrina, Bob's
death,
handling his estate, moving, and such. I haven't been terribly settled
for
a while..
Do you still have that picture of me (Iain), as a vampire? I've been
looking all over for that (I was 17 in that and now I'm having my
quarter life crisis at 23).
23! Dang :(
I am almost literally twice your age <sigh>
It's more like I'm mourning the final moment in my life when I might
pass as a teenager, or consider myself part of that social generation.
Youth is a "theme" of my identity, with my ruffled schoolboy hair and
so on.
Before the age of 20, aging is an optimistic process, as if an unseen
hand is trying to implement a vision of a complete person : The balls
drop, the stubble thickens, and the whole design becomes complete.
23 is a significant age because that's the time when you first realise
that the difference between yourself now and yourself in the past
consists only of decay.
The unseen hand has gone away and now there's nothing happening at all
except wear and tear. It's like the early stages of some deadly
disease.
Dude, wait until you get into your 40s. You ain't seen nothing yet ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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14 Mar 2007 01:49:50 PM |
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On Mar 14, 1:08 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173885253.456893.49920@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 14 Mar, 14:08, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173872645.682561.220760@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On 12 Mar, 14:18, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:03:34 -0700, Iain wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
At the moment, it's waiting for me to get a broadband hookup. Pushing
pictures around on a modem is a nightmare. I'm *supposed to be able to
get
a satellite connection this month but I haven't heard anything yet.
Sorry. The website got caught in the aftermath of Katrina, Bob's
death,
handling his estate, moving, and such. I haven't been terribly settled
for
a while..
Do you still have that picture of me (Iain), as a vampire? I've been
looking all over for that (I was 17 in that and now I'm having my
quarter life crisis at 23).
23! Dang :(
I am almost literally twice your age <sigh>
It's more like I'm mourning the final moment in my life when I might
pass as a teenager, or consider myself part of that social generation.
Youth is a "theme" of my identity, with my ruffled schoolboy hair and
so on.
Before the age of 20, aging is an optimistic process, as if an unseen
hand is trying to implement a vision of a complete person : The balls
drop, the stubble thickens, and the whole design becomes complete.
23 is a significant age because that's the time when you first realise
that the difference between yourself now and yourself in the past
consists only of decay.
The unseen hand has gone away and now there's nothing happening at all
except wear and tear. It's like the early stages of some deadly
disease.
Dude, wait until you get into your 40s. You ain't seen nothing yet ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557- Hide quoted text -
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When I hit forty I realized that the people I knew who were retiring
weren't all that old. And the old people seemed a lot younger than
they should have been.
JohnN
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14 Mar 2007 08:43:49 PM |
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On 14 Mar 2007 11:49:50 -0700, "JohnN" <jnorris53@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 14, 1:08 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173885253.456893.49920@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 14 Mar, 14:08, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173872645.682561.220760@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On 12 Mar, 14:18, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:03:34 -0700, Iain wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
At the moment, it's waiting for me to get a broadband hookup. Pushing
pictures around on a modem is a nightmare. I'm *supposed to be able to
get
a satellite connection this month but I haven't heard anything yet.
Sorry. The website got caught in the aftermath of Katrina, Bob's
death,
handling his estate, moving, and such. I haven't been terribly settled
for
a while..
Do you still have that picture of me (Iain), as a vampire? I've been
looking all over for that (I was 17 in that and now I'm having my
quarter life crisis at 23).
23! Dang :(
I am almost literally twice your age <sigh>
It's more like I'm mourning the final moment in my life when I might
pass as a teenager, or consider myself part of that social generation.
Youth is a "theme" of my identity, with my ruffled schoolboy hair and
so on.
Before the age of 20, aging is an optimistic process, as if an unseen
hand is trying to implement a vision of a complete person : The balls
drop, the stubble thickens, and the whole design becomes complete.
23 is a significant age because that's the time when you first realise
that the difference between yourself now and yourself in the past
consists only of decay.
The unseen hand has gone away and now there's nothing happening at all
except wear and tear. It's like the early stages of some deadly
disease.
Dude, wait until you get into your 40s. You ain't seen nothing yet ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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When I hit forty I realized that the people I knew who were retiring
weren't all that old. And the old people seemed a lot younger than
they should have been.
Lol!
atheist@home#1554
JohnN
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| Title: Re: Members' gallery |
14 Mar 2007 10:03:23 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:08:09 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173885253.456893.49920@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 14 Mar, 14:08, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173872645.682561.220760@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On 12 Mar, 14:18, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:03:34 -0700, Iain wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
At the moment, it's waiting for me to get a broadband hookup.
Pushing pictures around on a modem is a nightmare. I'm *supposed to
be able to get
a satellite connection this month but I haven't heard anything yet.
Sorry. The website got caught in the aftermath of Katrina, Bob's
death,
handling his estate, moving, and such. I haven't been terribly
settled for
a while..
Do you still have that picture of me (Iain), as a vampire? I've been
looking all over for that (I was 17 in that and now I'm having my
quarter life crisis at 23).
23! Dang :(
I am almost literally twice your age <sigh>
It's more like I'm mourning the final moment in my life when I might
pass as a teenager, or consider myself part of that social generation.
Youth is a "theme" of my identity, with my ruffled schoolboy hair and
so on.
Before the age of 20, aging is an optimistic process, as if an unseen
hand is trying to implement a vision of a complete person : The balls
drop, the stubble thickens, and the whole design becomes complete.
23 is a significant age because that's the time when you first realise
that the difference between yourself now and yourself in the past
consists only of decay.
The unseen hand has gone away and now there's nothing happening at all
except wear and tear. It's like the early stages of some deadly
disease.
Dude, wait until you get into your 40s. You ain't seen nothing yet ;)
You know, every time I say something like that, my Mom reminds me that
she's in her 70s. She wins.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Members' gallery |
15 Mar 2007 10:07:12 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:03:23 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:08:09 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173885253.456893.49920@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On 14 Mar, 14:08, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Iain" <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173872645.682561.220760@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On 12 Mar, 14:18, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:03:34 -0700, Iain wrote:
Whatever happened to that A.A. members' gallery? The one with the
pictures of regulars?
At the moment, it's waiting for me to get a broadband hookup.
Pushing pictures around on a modem is a nightmare. I'm *supposed to
be able to get
a satellite connection this month but I haven't heard anything yet.
Sorry. The website got caught in the aftermath of Katrina, Bob's
death,
handling his estate, moving, and such. I haven't been terribly
settled for
a while..
Do you still have that picture of me (Iain), as a vampire? I've been
looking all over for that (I was 17 in that and now I'm having my
quarter life crisis at 23).
23! Dang :(
I am almost literally twice your age <sigh>
It's more like I'm mourning the final moment in my life when I might
pass as a teenager, or consider myself part of that social generation.
Youth is a "theme" of my identity, with my ruffled schoolboy hair and
so on.
Before the age of 20, aging is an optimistic process, as if an unseen
hand is trying to implement a vision of a complete person : The balls
drop, the stubble thickens, and the whole design becomes complete.
23 is a significant age because that's the time when you first realise
that the difference between yourself now and yourself in the past
consists only of decay.
The unseen hand has gone away and now there's nothing happening at all
except wear and tear. It's like the early stages of some deadly
disease.
Dude, wait until you get into your 40s. You ain't seen nothing yet ;)
You know, every time I say something like that, my Mom reminds me that
she's in her 70s. She wins.
Mine's about to hit 70 and, weirdly, she doesn't seem nearly as old as she
was at 50 or so. Isn't that odd?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Members' gallery |
15 Mar 2007 01:34:46 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.03.15.15.07.12.90514@com.mkbilbo...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:03:23 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
snip
You know, every time I say something like that, my Mom reminds me that
she's in her 70s. She wins.
Mine's about to hit 70 and, weirdly, she doesn't seem nearly as old as she
was at 50 or so. Isn't that odd?
Mine's 80 and boy, does it show :(
The bio one's only 63, but she can get bent :P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Iain" |
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| Title: Re: Members' gallery |
19 Mar 2007 02:53:46 AM |
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On Mar 15, 6:34 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in messagenews:pan.2007.03.15.15.07.12.90514@com.mkbilbo...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:03:23 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
snip
You know, every time I say something like that, my Mom reminds me that
she's in her 70s. She wins.
Mine's about to hit 70 and, weirdly, she doesn't seem nearly as old as she
was at 50 or so. Isn't that odd?
Mine's 80 and boy, does it show :(
The bio one's only 63, but she can get bent :P
Definition of a Quarter-Life Crisis: Extremely morbid realisation that
one is too old to sit on a floor cushion without looking stupid.
~Iain
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Members' gallery |
19 Mar 2007 09:03:23 AM |
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"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174290826.397409.208550@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 15, 6:34 pm, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
messagenews:pan.2007.03.15.15.07.12.90514@com.mkbilbo...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:03:23 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:
snip
You know, every time I say something like that, my Mom reminds me that
she's in her 70s. She wins.
Mine's about to hit 70 and, weirdly, she doesn't seem nearly as old as
she
was at 50 or so. Isn't that odd?
Mine's 80 and boy, does it show :(
The bio one's only 63, but she can get bent :P
Definition of a Quarter-Life Crisis: Extremely morbid realisation that
one is too old to sit on a floor cushion without looking stupid.
SNORT! Hey, I'm not at that point yet ;)
At least I don't think so!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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