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"Xomicron" |
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02 Apr 2004 09:44:31 AM |
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Men created the greatest nation on the planet |
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr., Thomas Lynch,
junr., Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of
Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja.
Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John
Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John
Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine,
Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, C. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver
Wolcott.
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Oh yeah, some woman helped and sewed a flag. I think there was one that
was a nurse on the battlefield too.
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| User: "Kermit" |
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| Title: Re: Men created the greatest nation on the planet |
04 Apr 2004 01:33:58 AM |
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Grizzlie Antagonist <grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<oriu601vqu55pv64c9dmtrs3evevs6spdg@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 21:56:53 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:15:36 GMT, Grizzlie Antagonist
<grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:58:26 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On 2 Apr 2004 15:44:31 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr., Thomas Lynch,
junr., Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of
Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja.
Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John
Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John
Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine,
Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, C. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver
Wolcott.
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Oh yeah, some woman helped and sewed a flag. I think there was one that
was a nurse on the battlefield too.
It could have been predicted that a homophobe would also be a
misogynist.
Maybe so, and what's the matter with being both a homophobe and a
misogynist, dumbshit?
What is wrong with despising more than half of the human population of
the Earth? Gee, that is a tough question.
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
There is nothing wrong with returning someone's hate.
I think I see where the confusion lies. They don't hate *men, Grizzly
- they just hate *you.
Kermit
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grizzlieantagonist@yahoo.com
"Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause
for tonight's player of the game - AL-BERT-O CAS-S-S-
S-S-S--S-S-TILLO!"
- P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium, July 4, 2003
"Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
- Horace, the Roman poet
MY DEAR ROBINSON: It was your account of a west
country legend which first suggested the idea of
this little tale to my mind. For this, and for
the help which you gave me in its evolution,
all thanks.
Yours most truly, A. CONAN DOYLE.
- Author's dedication of "Hound of the
Baskervilles" to Bertram Fletcher Robinson
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| User: "Grizzlie Antagonist" |
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04 Apr 2004 03:17:09 AM |
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On 3 Apr 2004 23:33:58 -0800, (Kermit)
wrote:
Grizzlie Antagonist <grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<oriu601vqu55pv64c9dmtrs3evevs6spdg@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 21:56:53 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:15:36 GMT, Grizzlie Antagonist
<grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:58:26 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On 2 Apr 2004 15:44:31 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr., Thomas Lynch,
junr., Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of
Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja.
Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John
Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John
Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine,
Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, C. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver
Wolcott.
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Oh yeah, some woman helped and sewed a flag. I think there was one that
was a nurse on the battlefield too.
It could have been predicted that a homophobe would also be a
misogynist.
Maybe so, and what's the matter with being both a homophobe and a
misogynist, dumbshit?
What is wrong with despising more than half of the human population of
the Earth? Gee, that is a tough question.
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
There is nothing wrong with returning someone's hate.
I think I see where the confusion lies. They don't hate *men, Grizzly
- they just hate *you.
Kermit
No, no. Women hate men as a group, not just one man. Trust me on
this one.
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grizzlieantagonist@yahoo.com
"Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause
for tonight's player of the game - AL-BERT-O CAS-S-S-
S-S-S--S-S-TILLO!"
- P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium, July 4, 2003
"Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
- Horace, the Roman poet
MY DEAR ROBINSON: It was your account of a west
country legend which first suggested the idea of
this little tale to my mind. For this, and for
the help which you gave me in its evolution,
all thanks.
Yours most truly, A. CONAN DOYLE.
- Author's dedication of "Hound of the
Baskervilles" to Bertram Fletcher Robinson
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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04 Apr 2004 01:56:08 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 08:17:09 GMT, Grizzlie Antagonist
<grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote:
On 3 Apr 2004 23:33:58 -0800, (Kermit)
wrote:
snip
I think I see where the confusion lies. They don't hate *men, Grizzly
- they just hate *you.
Kermit
No, no. Women hate men as a group, not just one man. Trust me on
this one.
You have provided no reason to trust you on "this one" or about
anything else.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "Icarus" |
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03 Apr 2004 07:51:20 PM |
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Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it
is that women say about men publicly and privately.
Oh dear... you must be mixing with the wrong women :-)
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| User: "Kermit" |
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04 Apr 2004 01:35:20 AM |
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"Icarus" <icarus_uk@email.com> wrote in message news:<c4npvm$2kmeq5$1@ID-165613.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it
is that women say about men publicly and privately.
Oh dear... you must be mixing with the wrong women :-)
It's unlikely he mixes with women at all. Which explains much of his attitude.
Kermit
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| User: "Grizzlie Antagonist" |
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04 Apr 2004 03:17:29 AM |
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On 3 Apr 2004 23:35:20 -0800, (Kermit)
wrote:
"Icarus" <icarus_uk@email.com> wrote in message news:<c4npvm$2kmeq5$1@ID-165613.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it
is that women say about men publicly and privately.
Oh dear... you must be mixing with the wrong women :-)
It's unlikely he mixes with women at all. Which explains much of his attitude.
Now, now...
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grizzlieantagonist@yahoo.com
"Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause
for tonight's player of the game - AL-BERT-O CAS-S-S-
S-S-S--S-S-TILLO!"
- P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium, July 4, 2003
"Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
- Horace, the Roman poet
MY DEAR ROBINSON: It was your account of a west
country legend which first suggested the idea of
this little tale to my mind. For this, and for
the help which you gave me in its evolution,
all thanks.
Yours most truly, A. CONAN DOYLE.
- Author's dedication of "Hound of the
Baskervilles" to Bertram Fletcher Robinson
.
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| User: "Daniel Horn" |
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03 Apr 2004 09:02:31 PM |
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Icarus wrote:
Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it
is that women say about men publicly and privately.
Oh dear... you must be mixing with the wrong women :-)
Conservatives are like that, a all around nasty lot.
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| User: "Grizzlie Antagonist" |
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03 Apr 2004 09:22:52 PM |
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 02:51:20 +0100, "Icarus" <icarus_uk@email.com>
wrote:
Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it
is that women say about men publicly and privately.
Oh dear... you must be mixing with the wrong women :-)
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
This observation of mine is a political one and not a personal one.
Here is a review of a book written by a woman who quote -
convincingly argues that some degree of man-hating (``misandry'') is
practically universal among American women today - unquote.
Read her lips - man-hating is practically universal among women.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0385410794/revie/102-9773314-2745751
My Enemy, My Love: Man-Hating and Ambivalence in Women's Lives
by Judith Levine
From Kirkus Reviews
Here, a contributing editor to New York Woman convincingly argues that
some degree of man-hating (``misandry'') is practically universal
among American women today. For evidence of man-hating, Levine draws
on 80 in-depth interviews with women of various social classes,
ethnic backgrounds, occupations, and sexual orientations. Nearly all
women, she finds, perceive men as fitting one or more stereotypes:
either that of needy ``Infant,'' exploitative ``Betrayer,'' or
testosterone-poisoned ``Beast.'' Levine goes on to describe the
genesis of such attitudes in
women's first relationships with their fathers, and represents the
feminist movement of the 60's and 70's as the first time that women
recognized the commonality of these feelings and claimed the right to
express them. Her discussion concludes with portraits of individual
women and the strategies they have found for dealing with their
hatred or ambivalence: total avoidance of men; intimacy marred by
strife; rage and disappointment; utter capitulation. In only one
couple does Levine find an egalitarianism that exemplifies her own
vision of a future in which gender will be seen simply as interesting
difference, not superiority or inferiority, and in which the work,
concerns, and privileges of both sexes will be shared equally.
Thoughtful and balanced, despite its volatile subject, and deserving a
place on the same postfeminist shelf as Deborah Tannen's You Just
Don't Understand, Myriam Miedzian's Boys Will Be Boys, or Susan
Faludi's Backlash. --
Copyright ©1992, Kirkus Associates, LP. All rights reserved.
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grizzlieantagonist@yahoo.com
"Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause
for tonight's player of the game - AL-BERT-O CAS-S-S-
S-S-S--S-S-TILLO!"
- P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium, July 4, 2003
"Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
- Horace, the Roman poet
MY DEAR ROBINSON: It was your account of a west
country legend which first suggested the idea of
this little tale to my mind. For this, and for
the help which you gave me in its evolution,
all thanks.
Yours most truly, A. CONAN DOYLE.
- Author's dedication of "Hound of the
Baskervilles" to Bertram Fletcher Robinson
.
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| User: "Kermit" |
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04 Apr 2004 01:42:24 AM |
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Grizzlie Antagonist <grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<690v60dqnmsguo47mjmo523q02q61gf3n4@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 02:51:20 +0100, "Icarus" <icarus_uk@email.com>
wrote:
Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it
is that women say about men publicly and privately.
Oh dear... you must be mixing with the wrong women :-)
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
This observation of mine is a political one and not a personal one.
Here is a review of a book written by a woman who quote -
convincingly argues that some degree of man-hating (``misandry'') is
practically universal among American women today - unquote.
Read her lips - man-hating is practically universal among women.
If you bought a copy of her book, you have helped her accomplish her
goals - selling her books. But then you only read reviews of the
books, I suppose. There have been books by men that claim all men are
bisexual; do you believe everything you read, or just those articles
and books (or rather, reviews of them) which agree with your
preconceptions?
At least you read.
But not well. What is "some degree"? I don't consider a book review a
very persuasive argument.
Kermit
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0385410794/revie/102-9773314-2745751
My Enemy, My Love: Man-Hating and Ambivalence in Women's Lives
by Judith Levine
From Kirkus Reviews
Here, a contributing editor to New York Woman convincingly argues that
some degree of man-hating (``misandry'') is practically universal
among American women today. For evidence of man-hating, Levine draws
on 80 in-depth interviews with women of various social classes,
ethnic backgrounds, occupations, and sexual orientations. Nearly all
women, she finds, perceive men as fitting one or more stereotypes:
either that of needy ``Infant,'' exploitative ``Betrayer,'' or
testosterone-poisoned ``Beast.'' Levine goes on to describe the
genesis of such attitudes in
women's first relationships with their fathers, and represents the
feminist movement of the 60's and 70's as the first time that women
recognized the commonality of these feelings and claimed the right to
express them. Her discussion concludes with portraits of individual
women and the strategies they have found for dealing with their
hatred or ambivalence: total avoidance of men; intimacy marred by
strife; rage and disappointment; utter capitulation. In only one
couple does Levine find an egalitarianism that exemplifies her own
vision of a future in which gender will be seen simply as interesting
difference, not superiority or inferiority, and in which the work,
concerns, and privileges of both sexes will be shared equally.
Thoughtful and balanced, despite its volatile subject, and deserving a
place on the same postfeminist shelf as Deborah Tannen's You Just
Don't Understand, Myriam Miedzian's Boys Will Be Boys, or Susan
Faludi's Backlash. --
Copyright ©1992, Kirkus Associates, LP. All rights reserved.
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grizzlieantagonist@yahoo.com
"Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause
for tonight's player of the game - AL-BERT-O CAS-S-S-
S-S-S--S-S-TILLO!"
- P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium, July 4, 2003
"Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
- Horace, the Roman poet
MY DEAR ROBINSON: It was your account of a west
country legend which first suggested the idea of
this little tale to my mind. For this, and for
the help which you gave me in its evolution,
all thanks.
Yours most truly, A. CONAN DOYLE.
- Author's dedication of "Hound of the
Baskervilles" to Bertram Fletcher Robinson
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| User: "Grizzlie Antagonist" |
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04 Apr 2004 03:21:12 AM |
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On 3 Apr 2004 23:42:24 -0800, (Kermit)
wrote:
Grizzlie Antagonist <grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<690v60dqnmsguo47mjmo523q02q61gf3n4@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 02:51:20 +0100, "Icarus" <icarus_uk@email.com>
wrote:
Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it
is that women say about men publicly and privately.
Oh dear... you must be mixing with the wrong women :-)
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
This observation of mine is a political one and not a personal one.
Here is a review of a book written by a woman who quote -
convincingly argues that some degree of man-hating (``misandry'') is
practically universal among American women today - unquote.
Read her lips - man-hating is practically universal among women.
If you bought a copy of her book, you have helped her accomplish her
goals - selling her books.
The fact that a woman has CONFESSED that man-hating is universal or
near-universal among women is very important. It's important that
word be gotten out.
But then you only read reviews of the
books, I suppose. There have been books by men that claim all men are
bisexual; do you believe everything you read, or just those articles
and books (or rather, reviews of them) which agree with your
preconceptions?
Well, a woman who admits that her gender is guilty of hating the other
gender isn't really writing from a standpoint of self-interest - she
is delivering a CONFESSION so she has more credibility than a bisexual
man who says that everyone is bisexual - he's obviously acting of
self-interest.
At least you read.
But not well.
I do all right, thank you.
What is "some degree"?
Well, it's proper English. Is that why you don't understand it?
I don't consider a book review a
very persuasive argument.
I do.
Kermit
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0385410794/revie/102-9773314-2745751
My Enemy, My Love: Man-Hating and Ambivalence in Women's Lives
by Judith Levine
From Kirkus Reviews
Here, a contributing editor to New York Woman convincingly argues that
some degree of man-hating (``misandry'') is practically universal
among American women today. For evidence of man-hating, Levine draws
on 80 in-depth interviews with women of various social classes,
ethnic backgrounds, occupations, and sexual orientations. Nearly all
women, she finds, perceive men as fitting one or more stereotypes:
either that of needy ``Infant,'' exploitative ``Betrayer,'' or
testosterone-poisoned ``Beast.'' Levine goes on to describe the
genesis of such attitudes in
women's first relationships with their fathers, and represents the
feminist movement of the 60's and 70's as the first time that women
recognized the commonality of these feelings and claimed the right to
express them. Her discussion concludes with portraits of individual
women and the strategies they have found for dealing with their
hatred or ambivalence: total avoidance of men; intimacy marred by
strife; rage and disappointment; utter capitulation. In only one
couple does Levine find an egalitarianism that exemplifies her own
vision of a future in which gender will be seen simply as interesting
difference, not superiority or inferiority, and in which the work,
concerns, and privileges of both sexes will be shared equally.
Thoughtful and balanced, despite its volatile subject, and deserving a
place on the same postfeminist shelf as Deborah Tannen's You Just
Don't Understand, Myriam Miedzian's Boys Will Be Boys, or Susan
Faludi's Backlash. --
Copyright ©1992, Kirkus Associates, LP. All rights reserved.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
grizzlieantagonist@yahoo.com
"Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause
for tonight's player of the game - AL-BERT-O CAS-S-S-
S-S-S--S-S-TILLO!"
- P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium, July 4, 2003
"Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
- Horace, the Roman poet
MY DEAR ROBINSON: It was your account of a west
country legend which first suggested the idea of
this little tale to my mind. For this, and for
the help which you gave me in its evolution,
all thanks.
Yours most truly, A. CONAN DOYLE.
- Author's dedication of "Hound of the
Baskervilles" to Bertram Fletcher Robinson
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grizzlieantagonist@yahoo.com
"Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause
for tonight's player of the game - AL-BERT-O CAS-S-S-
S-S-S--S-S-TILLO!"
- P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium, July 4, 2003
"Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
- Horace, the Roman poet
MY DEAR ROBINSON: It was your account of a west
country legend which first suggested the idea of
this little tale to my mind. For this, and for
the help which you gave me in its evolution,
all thanks.
Yours most truly, A. CONAN DOYLE.
- Author's dedication of "Hound of the
Baskervilles" to Bertram Fletcher Robinson
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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04 Apr 2004 01:56:07 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 08:21:12 GMT, Grizzlie Antagonist
<grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote:
On 3 Apr 2004 23:42:24 -0800, (Kermit)
wrote:
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The fact that a woman has CONFESSED that man-hating is universal or
near-universal among women is very important. It's important that
word be gotten out.
It is important for you to understand that, no matter what one woman
may or may not have written, she does not have the authority to speak
for all women.
But then you only read reviews of the
books, I suppose. There have been books by men that claim all men are
bisexual; do you believe everything you read, or just those articles
and books (or rather, reviews of them) which agree with your
preconceptions?
Well, a woman who admits that her gender is guilty of hating the other
gender isn't really writing from a standpoint of self-interest - she
is delivering a CONFESSION so she has more credibility than a bisexual
man who says that everyone is bisexual - he's obviously acting of
self-interest.
And neither have the right to speak for all. They are stating an
opinion.
snip
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "Daniel Horn" |
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04 Apr 2004 12:40:09 AM |
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Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 02:51:20 +0100, "Icarus" <icarus_uk@email.com>
wrote:
Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it
is that women say about men publicly and privately.
Oh dear... you must be mixing with the wrong women :-)
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
Let me guess you are one of those misogynous nuts
posting over at soc.men, right Gazzy?
Pronounced Gay-zee.
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 06:40:09 GMT, Daniel Horn <Daniel@Horn.uk> wrote:
Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 02:51:20 +0100, "Icarus" <icarus_uk@email.com>
wrote:
Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it
is that women say about men publicly and privately.
Oh dear... you must be mixing with the wrong women :-)
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
Let me guess you are one of those misogynous nuts
posting over at soc.men, right Gazzy?
Pronounced Gay-zee.
Yes, you guess correctly.
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"Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause
for tonight's player of the game - AL-BERT-O CAS-S-S-
S-S-S--S-S-TILLO!"
- P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium, July 4, 2003
"Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
- Horace, the Roman poet
MY DEAR ROBINSON: It was your account of a west
country legend which first suggested the idea of
this little tale to my mind. For this, and for
the help which you gave me in its evolution,
all thanks.
Yours most truly, A. CONAN DOYLE.
- Author's dedication of "Hound of the
Baskervilles" to Bertram Fletcher Robinson
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03 Apr 2004 09:59:37 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:22:52 GMT, Grizzlie Antagonist
<grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote:
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
Men see women as fuckable property. If you don't believe this,
consieer what is that men say about women publicly and privately.
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03 Apr 2004 07:37:22 PM |
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In article <oriu601vqu55pv64c9dmtrs3evevs6spdg@4ax.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote:
What is wrong with despising more than half of the human population of
the Earth? Gee, that is a tough question.
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
Since what women say about women is at least as bad as what they say
about men, your comment does not show that women hate men any more than
they hate women. If they hate everyone, that is their problem.
There is nothing wrong with returning someone's hate.
There is everything wrong with returning hate for hate, and there is
everything wrong with hating any person on the basis of gender.
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03 Apr 2004 09:14:07 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 18:37:22 -0700, Virgil
<ITSnetNOTcom/virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote:
In article <oriu601vqu55pv64c9dmtrs3evevs6spdg@4ax.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote:
What is wrong with despising more than half of the human population of
the Earth? Gee, that is a tough question.
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
Since what women say about women is at least as bad as what they say
about men,
No way. "Sisters" never attack one another.
your comment does not show that women hate men any more than
they hate women.
If they hate everyone, that is their problem.
Well, I disagree with your premise that "what women say about women is
at least as bad as what they say about men".
There is nothing wrong with returning someone's hate.
There is everything wrong with returning hate for hate,
Hell, no. An eye for an eye.
and there is
everything wrong with hating any person on the basis of gender.
I'll try to find a way to ease my beleaguered conscience.
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grizzlieantagonist@yahoo.com
"Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause
for tonight's player of the game - AL-BERT-O CAS-S-S-
S-S-S--S-S-TILLO!"
- P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium, July 4, 2003
"Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
- Horace, the Roman poet
MY DEAR ROBINSON: It was your account of a west
country legend which first suggested the idea of
this little tale to my mind. For this, and for
the help which you gave me in its evolution,
all thanks.
Yours most truly, A. CONAN DOYLE.
- Author's dedication of "Hound of the
Baskervilles" to Bertram Fletcher Robinson
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04 Apr 2004 05:49:06 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 23:30:26 GMT, Grizzlie Antagonist
<grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 21:56:53 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:15:36 GMT, Grizzlie Antagonist
<grizzlieantagonist@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:58:26 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On 2 Apr 2004 15:44:31 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr., Thomas Lynch,
junr., Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of
Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja.
Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John
Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John
Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine,
Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, C. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver
Wolcott.
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Oh yeah, some woman helped and sewed a flag. I think there was one that
was a nurse on the battlefield too.
It could have been predicted that a homophobe would also be a
misogynist.
Maybe so, and what's the matter with being both a homophobe and a
misogynist, dumbshit?
What is wrong with despising more than half of the human population of
the Earth? Gee, that is a tough question.
Women hate men. If you don't believe this, consider what it is that
women say about men publicly and privately.
There is nothing wrong with returning someone's hate.
The above is incredibly adolescent. I hope, for your sake, that you
are an adolescent.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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03 Apr 2004 09:56:05 AM |
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Thomas P. wrote:
On 2 Apr 2004 15:44:31 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr., Thomas Lynch,
junr., Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of
Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja.
Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John
Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John
Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine,
Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, C. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver
Wolcott.
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Oh yeah, some woman helped and sewed a flag. I think there was one that
was a nurse on the battlefield too.
It could have been predicted that a homophobe would also be a
misogynist.
Well it almost has to go hand and hand if you think about it,
after all a homophobe is one repressing their sexual attraction
to the same sex. Therefore the hate of women comes natural,
and the hate of gays is their projection of the their hate of
themselves, and is the symptoms of that repression of their
true sexuality.
Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia -- the fear, anxiety,
anger, discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual
people hold for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed
homosexual urges that the person is either unaware of or denies.
http://www.apa.org/releases/homophob.html
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03 Apr 2004 10:56:47 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 15:56:05 GMT, Daniel Horn <Daniel@Horn.uk> wrote:
It could have been predicted that a homophobe would also be a
misogynist.
Well it almost has to go hand and hand if you think about it,
after all a homophobe is one repressing their sexual attraction
to the same sex. Therefore the hate of women comes natural,
and the hate of gays is their projection of the their hate of
themselves, and is the symptoms of that repression of their
true sexuality.
Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia -- the fear, anxiety,
anger, discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual
people hold for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed
homosexual urges that the person is either unaware of or denies.
http://www.apa.org/releases/homophob.html
Well, y'see, that isn't true. I haven't read the Index of Homophobia
survey they used to categorize the respondents participants in this
study. I didn't even know there was one. Maybe it's the Index of
Attitudes toward Homosexuals by another name? The thing is though,
psychoanalytic theory doesn't hold that aversion etc towards
homosexuals is the result of repressed homosexual urge, only that it
is a possible explanation. Like the old lightbulb joke, psychoanalysis
takes a long time (and the lightbulb really has to want to be
changed). Even assuming there is merit in the Index of Homophobia (and
I really couldn't say yea or nay), if it were possible to define a
person's mental or emotional composition with a survey then hiring
interviews or parole hearings would have a much better ratio of
success than they do. Before a responsible psychoanalyst would offer
an opinion that a given subject is phobic about this or repressive
about that he would have the subject on the couch a good long time.
The study you cite is interesting, and added to a greater arc of
ongoing research may turn out to be meaningful. On its own it doesn't
mean much of anything. The study group is too small and the duration
of the study too short for it really to be an 'aha!' moment in the
development of psychoanalysis. The clinicians who did the study in
the article you cite state clearly that although the results tend to
support theory A, they do not rule out theory B. Popular opinion
aside, it is not true that we are what we hate. I, for example, am not
a realtor.
As well, there is more than one study out there, and several
conflicting conclusion. Just for fun, follow this link.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/696922/posts
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04 Apr 2004 09:11:29 PM |
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With the help of woman
"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:Xns94BF6D45EB2A6xomicron@0.0.0.1...
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr., Thomas Lynch,
junr., Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of
Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja.
Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John
Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John
Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine,
Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, C. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver
Wolcott.
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Oh yeah, some woman helped and sewed a flag. I think there was one that
was a nurse on the battlefield too.
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02 Apr 2004 10:04:14 PM |
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Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
Hey! George Walton! One of my wife's (and daughters') ancestors!
And she isn't a right-wing bigot like you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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03 Apr 2004 09:59:35 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
Hey! George Walton! One of my wife's (and daughters') ancestors!
And she isn't a right-wing bigot like you.
Up the anty and see you with:
Alexander Hamilton founder of the Federalist Party. Was a
homosexual (bisexual) and was a founding father, so much for
the founders would object to homosexuality. Here is a letter
between Hamilton to John Laurens:
Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my Dear
Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words to
convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that 'til
you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my
heart to set upon you. Indeed, my friend, it was not well done.
You know the opinion I entertain of mankind, and how much it is
my desire to preserve myself free from particular attachments,
and to keep my happiness independent of the caprice of others.
You should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to steal
into my affections without my consent. But as you have done it,
and as we are generally indulgent to those we love, I shall
not scruple to pardon the fraud you have committed, on condition
that for my sake, if not for your own, you will always continue
to merit the partiality, which you have artfully instilled into me.
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03 Apr 2004 09:09:33 PM |
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Daniel Horn <Daniel@Horn.uk> wrote in message news:<406EC4DA.80A40F02@Horn.uk>...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
Hey! George Walton! One of my wife's (and daughters') ancestors!
And she isn't a right-wing bigot like you.
Up the anty and see you with:
Alexander Hamilton founder of the Federalist Party. Was a
homosexual (bisexual) and was a founding father, so much for
the founders would object to homosexuality. Here is a letter
between Hamilton to John Laurens:
Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my Dear
Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words to
convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that 'til
you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my
heart to set upon you. Indeed, my friend, it was not well done.
You know the opinion I entertain of mankind, and how much it is
my desire to preserve myself free from particular attachments,
and to keep my happiness independent of the caprice of others.
You should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to steal
into my affections without my consent. But as you have done it,
and as we are generally indulgent to those we love, I shall
not scruple to pardon the fraud you have committed, on condition
that for my sake, if not for your own, you will always continue
to merit the partiality, which you have artfully instilled into me.
The letter doesn't make Hamilton homosexual. The words are typical of
an elaborate and emotional style that is no longer popular.
Shakespeare's male characters, for example, constantly prate of their
love for one another.
Well into the 19th century, it was considered polite to conclude a
letter with "Your Most Humble and Obedient Servant." That didn't mean
that every one who wrote the words actually believed them literally.
Hamilton, if anything, was a bit too heterosexual, and was involved in
a scandalous affair with another man's wife.
Wexford
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03 Apr 2004 10:12:06 PM |
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On 3 Apr 2004 19:09:33 -0800, (Wexford) wrote:
Daniel Horn <Daniel@Horn.uk> wrote in message news:<406EC4DA.80A40F02@Horn.uk>...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
Hey! George Walton! One of my wife's (and daughters') ancestors!
And she isn't a right-wing bigot like you.
Up the anty and see you with:
Alexander Hamilton founder of the Federalist Party. Was a
homosexual (bisexual) and was a founding father, so much for
the founders would object to homosexuality. Here is a letter
between Hamilton to John Laurens:
Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my Dear
Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words to
convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that 'til
you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my
heart to set upon you. Indeed, my friend, it was not well done.
You know the opinion I entertain of mankind, and how much it is
my desire to preserve myself free from particular attachments,
and to keep my happiness independent of the caprice of others.
You should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to steal
into my affections without my consent. But as you have done it,
and as we are generally indulgent to those we love, I shall
not scruple to pardon the fraud you have committed, on condition
that for my sake, if not for your own, you will always continue
to merit the partiality, which you have artfully instilled into me.
The letter doesn't make Hamilton homosexual. The words are typical of
an elaborate and emotional style that is no longer popular.
Shakespeare's male characters, for example, constantly prate of their
love for one another.
Well into the 19th century, it was considered polite to conclude a
letter with "Your Most Humble and Obedient Servant." That didn't mean
that every one who wrote the words actually believed them literally.
Hamilton, if anything, was a bit too heterosexual, and was involved in
a scandalous affair with another man's wife.
Wexford
Exactly.
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grizzlieantagonist@yahoo.com
"Ladies and gentlemen - let's have a round of applause
for tonight's player of the game - AL-BERT-O CAS-S-S-
S-S-S--S-S-TILLO!"
- P.A. announcer at Grizzlie Stadium, July 4, 2003
"Populus me sibilat, at mihi plaudo."(The people
hiss at me, but I am well satisfied with myself).
- Horace, the Roman poet
MY DEAR ROBINSON: It was your account of a west
country legend which first suggested the idea of
this little tale to my mind. For this, and for
the help which you gave me in its evolution,
all thanks.
Yours most truly, A. CONAN DOYLE.
- Author's dedication of "Hound of the
Baskervilles" to Bertram Fletcher Robinson
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04 Apr 2004 12:33:18 AM |
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Wexford wrote:
Daniel Horn <Daniel@Horn.uk> wrote in message news:<406EC4DA.80A40F02@Horn.uk>...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
Hey! George Walton! One of my wife's (and daughters') ancestors!
And she isn't a right-wing bigot like you.
Up the anty and see you with:
Alexander Hamilton founder of the Federalist Party. Was a
homosexual (bisexual) and was a founding father, so much for
the founders would object to homosexuality. Here is a letter
between Hamilton to John Laurens:
Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my Dear
Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words to
convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that 'til
you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my
heart to set upon you. Indeed, my friend, it was not well done.
You know the opinion I entertain of mankind, and how much it is
my desire to preserve myself free from particular attachments,
and to keep my happiness independent of the caprice of others.
You should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to steal
into my affections without my consent. But as you have done it,
and as we are generally indulgent to those we love, I shall
not scruple to pardon the fraud you have committed, on condition
that for my sake, if not for your own, you will always continue
to merit the partiality, which you have artfully instilled into me.
The letter doesn't make Hamilton homosexual. The words are typical of
an elaborate and emotional style that is no longer popular.
Shakespeare's male characters, for example, constantly prate of their
love for one another.
Well into the 19th century, it was considered polite to conclude a
letter with "Your Most Humble and Obedient Servant." That didn't mean
that every one who wrote the words actually believed them literally.
Hamilton, if anything, was a bit too heterosexual, and was involved in
a scandalous affair with another man's wife.
You people sure are weird, the bible as much as gives explicit
details of David having sex with Jonathan, and Hamilton
says "You should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to
steal into my affections without my consent, " and your lot say
they are butch he-men, but Gazzy says I am a homosexual,
even though I have a wife, for fighting for human rights, and
your lot think a guy is gay if they wear a pink shirt, but
Hamilton and David are he-men butch types. Talk about
double standards.
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02 Apr 2004 09:51:25 AM |
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Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> astounded us with: news:Xns94BF6D45EB2A6xomicron@
0.0.0.1:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr., Thomas Lynch,
junr., Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of
Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja.
Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John
Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John
Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine,
Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, C. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver
Wolcott.
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Oh yeah, some woman helped and sewed a flag. I think there was one that
was a nurse on the battlefield too.
Way to go! A lovely demonstration of mysogynism.
Why don't you just *****, Neanderthal?
--
Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://afjc.clickhalah.com/forum/index.php
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
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04 Apr 2004 09:13:33 PM |
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Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<Xns94BF6D45EB2A6xomicron@0.0.0.1>...
RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE,
That's Rhode Island and Providence PLANTATIONS, fool.
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Unfortunately, it gets pushed around by the USA.
Besides, a nation requires a culture and language. A single document
cannot accomplish that.
Oh yeah, some woman helped and sewed a flag. I think there was one that
was a nurse on the battlefield too.
Molly Pitcher?
-- Buster <http://www.rev.net/~aloe/geography>
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| User: "Daniel Horn" |
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| Title: Re: Men created the greatest nation on the planet |
02 Apr 2004 04:22:24 PM |
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Xomicron wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr., Thomas Lynch,
junr., Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of
Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja.
Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John
Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John
Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine,
Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, C. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver
Wolcott.
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Too bad your lot have done everything in your power to destroy it
with frivolous US Constitutional Amendment that null the 9th
and 14th Amendments, to enshrine your bigotry into this used
to be fine document. If you people hate the USA and its
Constitution so much, get the hell out. Go live in Saudi Arabia
where you will fit right in, and hey they cut the heads of
homosexuals off. Home Sweet Home.
A Vote for Bush is a Vote for Bigotry.
It is a vote to yell: Segregation Now, Segregation Forever.
A Vote for Bush is a Vote for more unchecked Spending.
Oh yeah, some woman helped and sewed a flag. I think there was one that
was a nurse on the battlefield too.
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| User: "Xomicron" |
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| Title: Re: Men created the greatest nation on the planet |
02 Apr 2004 05:14:09 PM |
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Daniel Horn <Daniel@Horn.uk> wrote in news:406DCD40.15BB05B@Horn.uk:
Xomicron wrote:
July 4th, 1776: The signing of the Declaration of Independence by
these *MEN*...
John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr., Thomas Lynch,
junr., Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of
Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja.
Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John
Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John
Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine,
Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, C. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver
Wolcott.
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Too bad your lot have done everything in your power to destroy it
with frivolous US Constitutional Amendment that null the 9th
and 14th Amendments,
It does neither.
to enshrine your bigotry into this used
to be fine document. If you people hate the USA and its
Constitution so much, get the hell out. Go live in Saudi Arabia
where you will fit right in, and hey they cut the heads of
homosexuals off. Home Sweet Home.
A Vote for Bush is a Vote for Bigotry.
It is a vote to yell: Segregation Now, Segregation Forever.
Wipe the ***** off your typing fingers.
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| User: "Daniel Horn" |
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| Title: Re: Men created the greatest nation on the planet |
02 Apr 2004 06:31:49 PM |
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Xomicron wrote:
Daniel Horn <Daniel@Horn.uk> wrote in news:406DCD40.15BB05B@Horn.uk:
Xomicron wrote:
Years of fighting and dying by *MEN* to defeat tyranny results in the
creation of the greatest nation on earth.
Too bad your lot have done everything in your power to destroy it
with frivolous US Constitutional Amendment that null the 9th
and 14th Amendments,
It does neither.
As complex as this issue is for room temperature IQs like
yours, no wonder you do not understand it. Marriage is a
Fundamental right of man it cannot be denied (9th Amendment),
and if a man can marry a woman then a woman must have the
same right as the man to marry a woman or her equal rights
have been violated (equal protection clause of the 14th
Amendment). The Marriage Ban Amendment is a direct
attack of the 9th and 14th Amendments to make illegal
that which is legal right now. Bush and the states are breaking
Constitutional law in not allowing intersexuals to legally marry
at all.
Skinner v. State OF OKL. Ex Rel. Williamson, 316 U.S. 535 (1942)
We are dealing here with legislation which involves one of the basic civil
rights of man. Marriage and procreation are fundamental
Palmer v. Thompson, 403 U.S. 217, at 260-61 (1971)
"Public officials may not avoid a constitutional duty by bowing to
the effects of private prejudice, however widely or deeply held."
to enshrine your bigotry into this used
to be fine document. If you people hate the USA and its
Constitution so much, get the hell out. Go live in Saudi Arabia
where you will fit right in, and hey they cut the heads of
homosexuals off. Home Sweet Home.
A Vote for Bush is a Vote for Bigotry.
It is a vote to yell: Segregation Now, Segregation Forever.
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