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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Abhi"
Date: 24 Dec 2004 02:39:01 PM
Object: Merry Christmas To All of You...
Merry Christmas to all of you.
I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his life
for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama, Siddharth,
Mohammad.
One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble will to
end sufferings of living being and show right path to live. Personally
I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies named
Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.
We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead of that
we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but I
think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness, peace
to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us.
Once again, Merry X'mas to all of you.
-Abhi.
..
.

User: "Clayton...Full Metal Jackass"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 24 Dec 2004 04:29:22 PM
"Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103920741.434335.226010@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his life
for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama, Siddharth,
Mohammad.

One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble will to
end sufferings of living being and show right path to live. Personally
I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies named
Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.

We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead of that
we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but I
think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness, peace
to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us.
Once again, Merry X'mas to all of you.

In the spirit of the season, I shall bite my tongue about the rest of your
post and return a joyous holiday and happy new year to you!
.

User: "MrD"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 24 Dec 2004 08:41:17 PM
"Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103920741.434335.226010@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his life
for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama, Siddharth,
Mohammad.

One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble will to
end sufferings of living being and show right path to live. Personally
I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies named
Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.

We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead of that
we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but I
think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness, peace
to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us.
Once again, Merry X'mas to all of you.

Metaphorically speaking, "God bless us, every one."
.

User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 24 Dec 2004 03:14:41 PM
"Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103920741.434335.226010@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his life
for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama, Siddharth,
Mohammad.

Dude, he supposedly took a 3 day vacation to appease himself so that he
could forgive us for breaking the rules he stupidly put in place and not
torture us forever instead.
This does not describe a hero, it describes a psychopathic idiot.
(snip unsupported stupidity)
Do you agree with the supposed god that I somehow DESERVE to be tortured
forever in a lake of fire?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.
User: "Abhi"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 05:55:00 AM
Denis Loubet wrote:

"Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103920741.434335.226010@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his

life

for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama,

Siddharth,

Mohammad.


Dude, he supposedly took a 3 day vacation to appease himself so that

he

could forgive us for breaking the rules he stupidly put in place and

not

torture us forever instead.

This does not describe a hero, it describes a psychopathic idiot.

(snip unsupported stupidity)

Do you agree with the supposed god that I somehow DESERVE to be

tortured

forever in a lake of fire?

When I said that I do not believe in religion, I mean religious texts.
So to argue over any religious text is pointless. There is no lake of
fire( I just referred one link quickly to understand what is lake of
fire). The hell is here and the heaven is here. I am not traditional
theist nor I am traditional atheist.
I find that the word "theist" is related to person who not only
believes in God but he also believes blindly in particular religious
text. I am not one of them.
And I find that the word "atheist" is related to person who attack
blindly anything related to God without reasoning. I am not one of
them.
Theists and Atheists have somehow only one definition of God. God is
good, noble, loving, compassionate.
And when people see so much pain, distress, deaths in world around us,
they think that God does not exist! God necessarily does not have to be
ONLY good.
As I have said, we, living being, are God. Our collective will is God.
If our collective will is good, God is good. If our collective will is
evil, God is evil. But problem with you all the theists and atheists is
that you do not agree that this universe is our own creation. And we,
ONLY our collective will is going to decide fate of mankind. Otherwise
mankind will be extinct like dinosauras.
I have asked one question earlier but let me ask once again.
(1) To Theists:
If your God erase all the evil things from face of earth, billions of
people will be jobless. Give me solution to this problem and how long
you will be happy in that world?
(2) To Atheists:
If you do not believe in God, then now you are on your own. same
question: If you erase all the evil things from face of earth, billions
of people will be jobless. Give me solution to this problem and how
long you will be happy in that world?
But you theists and atheists are used to live in some kind of fantasy
world where you define God something different from us.
Until we find solution to above problem, the evil is going to stay here
and something named God will not be responsible for it.
We will be responsible for it.
-Abhi.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 03:13:54 PM
In our last episode
<1103975700.776013.144480@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Abhi lept out of
the bushes shouting:

If you do not believe in God, then now you are on your own. same question:
If you erase all the evil things from face of earth, billions of people
will be jobless. Give me solution to this problem and how long you will be
happy in that world?

WHAT?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.



User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 05:50:59 AM
"Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103920741.434335.226010@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus.

No thanks, I celebrate the original holiday.
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 24 Dec 2004 07:06:41 PM
In our last episode
<1103920741.434335.226010@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Abhi lept out of
the bushes shouting:

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to remember
with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his life for noble
cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad.

Or not. Or he didn't exist. Either way, who cares?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 26 Dec 2004 06:52:03 AM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In our last episode
<1103920741.434335.226010@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Abhi lept

out of

the bushes shouting:

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to

remember

with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his life for

noble

cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama, Siddharth,

Mohammad.


Or not. Or he didn't exist. Either way, who cares?

Someday you will care very much, Baggins.
*Very much.
=====
RC
.
User: "Landis D. Ragon"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 26 Dec 2004 09:18:39 PM
On 26 Dec 2004 04:52:03 -0800,
wrote:


Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In our last episode
<1103920741.434335.226010@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Abhi lept

out of

the bushes shouting:

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to

remember

with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his life for

noble

cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama, Siddharth,

Mohammad.


Or not. Or he didn't exist. Either way, who cares?

Someday you will care very much, Baggins.

*Very much.

Translation - "Worship my magic space pixey or he'll spray you with
napalm and set you ablaze"
Can't you just feel the warm christian love in every one of rcman's
messages?
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 26 Dec 2004 10:01:44 PM
In our last episode <pkvus0hkpq23qjdojgocoah0kssf22goqt@4ax.com>, Landis
D. Ragon lept out of the bushes shouting:

On 26 Dec 2004 04:52:03 -0800,

wrote:


Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In our last episode
<1103920741.434335.226010@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Abhi lept

out of

the bushes shouting:

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to

remember

with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his life for

noble

cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama, Siddharth,

Mohammad.


Or not. Or he didn't exist. Either way, who cares?

Someday you will care very much, Baggins.

*Very much.


Translation - "Worship my magic space pixey or he'll spray you with napalm
and set you ablaze"

Can't you just feel the warm christian love in every one of rcman's
messages?

rcman is still here?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.




User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 24 Dec 2004 02:44:54 PM
On 24 Dec 2004 12:39:01 -0800, "Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his life
for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama, Siddharth,
Mohammad.

No. You BELIEVE that. But it doesn't make it so.

One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble will to
end sufferings of living being and show right path to live. Personally
I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies named
Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.

We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead of that
we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but I
think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness, peace
to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us.
Once again, Merry X'mas to all of you.

Prove it exists or shut the ***** up.

-Abhi.

.

.
User: "Abhi"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 02:36:14 AM
Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On 24 Dec 2004 12:39:01 -0800, "Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his

life

for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama,

Siddharth,

Mohammad.


No. You BELIEVE that. But it doesn't make it so.

One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble will

to

end sufferings of living being and show right path to live.

Personally

I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies

named

Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.

We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead of

that

we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but I
think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness,

peace

to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us.
Once again, Merry X'mas to all of you.


Prove it exists or shut the ***** up.

Do you exist? Is it necessary to prove your existence?
It happened like this:
One "morning" Christopher A. Lee woke up. He found that he does not
have body. He has just consciousness, feelings. He found that he is
alone and nothing, absolutely nothing exists except him. He tried to
detroy himself but he found that he can not die.
Now for him, survival was not problem. How to live, this was the
problem. Due to isolation, he found that his power of imagination is
increasing. Using his enormous power of imagination, he built the
universe(s). He made a trillions of bodies, one of them named "
Christopher A. Lee" and decided to have "In-Body-Experience". He
entered in those trillions of bodies and is having
"In-Body-Experience". Sometime he does have "Out-of-Body Experience" in
which his consciousness exit these bodies. But he quickly returns to
those bodies.
He has forgotten, erased his past. He don't want to remember it. There
is "nothing". And now he is just enjoying this matrix built by him. Now
Christopher is in "alt.atheism" group enjoying, trolling, making
timepass fighting over God does not exist!
This is like big drama. God has already written lines, forgot his
"self" like actors do while acting. He has taken precaution that all
the actors do not "wake up" in this drama. Otherwise this drama would
collapse.
Perhaps you will not believe me. But in the end, your situation will be
like that Bruce Willis in "The Sixth Sense". In that movie, in the end,
Bruce Willis realizes that he himself is dead. Likewise in the end, you
are going to realise that you are God.
Do you exist, Christopher?
-Abhi.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 04:28:13 AM
"Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103963774.430774.125850@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
snip


Do you exist? Is it necessary to prove your existence?

It happened like this:

One "morning" Christopher A. Lee woke up. He found that he does not
have body. He has just consciousness, feelings. He found that he is
alone and nothing, absolutely nothing exists except him. He tried to
detroy himself but he found that he can not die.

Now for him, survival was not problem. How to live, this was the
problem. Due to isolation, he found that his power of imagination is
increasing. Using his enormous power of imagination, he built the
universe(s). He made a trillions of bodies, one of them named "
Christopher A. Lee" and decided to have "In-Body-Experience". He
entered in those trillions of bodies and is having
"In-Body-Experience". Sometime he does have "Out-of-Body Experience" in
which his consciousness exit these bodies. But he quickly returns to
those bodies.

He has forgotten, erased his past. He don't want to remember it. There
is "nothing". And now he is just enjoying this matrix built by him. Now
Christopher is in "alt.atheism" group enjoying, trolling, making
timepass fighting over God does not exist!

This is like big drama. God has already written lines, forgot his
"self" like actors do while acting. He has taken precaution that all
the actors do not "wake up" in this drama. Otherwise this drama would
collapse.

Perhaps you will not believe me. But in the end, your situation will be
like that Bruce Willis in "The Sixth Sense". In that movie, in the end,
Bruce Willis realizes that he himself is dead. Likewise in the end, you
are going to realise that you are God.
Do you exist, Christopher?

I'm sorry, but do you actually have some kind of a point or do you just like
to hear yourself type?
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 03:14:17 PM
In our last episode <334tlsF3r12e6U1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:


"Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103963774.430774.125850@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

snip


Do you exist? Is it necessary to prove your existence?

It happened like this:

One "morning" Christopher A. Lee woke up. He found that he does not have
body. He has just consciousness, feelings. He found that he is alone and
nothing, absolutely nothing exists except him. He tried to detroy
himself but he found that he can not die.

Now for him, survival was not problem. How to live, this was the
problem. Due to isolation, he found that his power of imagination is
increasing. Using his enormous power of imagination, he built the
universe(s). He made a trillions of bodies, one of them named "
Christopher A. Lee" and decided to have "In-Body-Experience". He entered
in those trillions of bodies and is having "In-Body-Experience".
Sometime he does have "Out-of-Body Experience" in which his
consciousness exit these bodies. But he quickly returns to those bodies.

He has forgotten, erased his past. He don't want to remember it. There
is "nothing". And now he is just enjoying this matrix built by him. Now
Christopher is in "alt.atheism" group enjoying, trolling, making
timepass fighting over God does not exist!

This is like big drama. God has already written lines, forgot his "self"
like actors do while acting. He has taken precaution that all the actors
do not "wake up" in this drama. Otherwise this drama would collapse.

Perhaps you will not believe me. But in the end, your situation will be
like that Bruce Willis in "The Sixth Sense". In that movie, in the end,
Bruce Willis realizes that he himself is dead. Likewise in the end, you
are going to realise that you are God. Do you exist, Christopher?


I'm sorry, but do you actually have some kind of a point or do you just
like to hear yourself type?

I'll take "hear himself type" for 200...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.

User: "Abhi"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 05:12:05 AM
Robibnikoff wrote:

"Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103963774.430774.125850@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

snip


Do you exist? Is it necessary to prove your existence?

It happened like this:

One "morning" Christopher A. Lee woke up. He found that he does not
have body. He has just consciousness, feelings. He found that he is
alone and nothing, absolutely nothing exists except him. He tried

to

detroy himself but he found that he can not die.

Now for him, survival was not problem. How to live, this was the
problem. Due to isolation, he found that his power of imagination

is

increasing. Using his enormous power of imagination, he built the
universe(s). He made a trillions of bodies, one of them named "
Christopher A. Lee" and decided to have "In-Body-Experience". He
entered in those trillions of bodies and is having
"In-Body-Experience". Sometime he does have "Out-of-Body

Experience" in

which his consciousness exit these bodies. But he quickly returns

to

those bodies.

He has forgotten, erased his past. He don't want to remember it.

There

is "nothing". And now he is just enjoying this matrix built by him.

Now

Christopher is in "alt.atheism" group enjoying, trolling, making
timepass fighting over God does not exist!

This is like big drama. God has already written lines, forgot his
"self" like actors do while acting. He has taken precaution that

all

the actors do not "wake up" in this drama. Otherwise this drama

would

collapse.

Perhaps you will not believe me. But in the end, your situation

will be

like that Bruce Willis in "The Sixth Sense". In that movie, in the

end,

Bruce Willis realizes that he himself is dead. Likewise in the end,

you

are going to realise that you are God.
Do you exist, Christopher?


I'm sorry, but do you actually have some kind of a point or do you

just like

to hear yourself type?

Sigh!
The point is that "Christopher" dreamed this universe and himself in
that universe. He just was not satisfied by that dream. He was willing
to see how does it "feel" in that dream. He was alone and had no other
job anyway. So he entered in imaginary body of "christopher" and he is
just enjoying his time in alt.atheism!
We are God. We have forgotten our past. Truth is always stranger than
fiction and our past was very dark. So we(God) erased it and decided to
live in illusion.
Have you ever experienced "lucid dream"? In lucid dream, you are aware
that this is dream but everything around you looks so real. If you
control your lucid dream by logic, set of laws, mathematical equations
and if you do not wake up from that dream, then what you are
experiencing right now is "reality" for you.
You will not understand or believe me. You have designed yourself not
to believe me.
Enjoy the Matrix! Keep fighting over your own existence!
Ignorance Is Bliss.
-Abhi.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 05:54:34 AM
"Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103973125.753243.7880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


Robibnikoff wrote:

snip

I'm sorry, but do you actually have some kind of a point or do you

just like

to hear yourself type?


Sigh!

The point is that "Christopher" dreamed this universe and himself in
that universe. He just was not satisfied by that dream. He was willing
to see how does it "feel" in that dream. He was alone and had no other
job anyway. So he entered in imaginary body of "christopher" and he is
just enjoying his time in alt.atheism!

We are God. We have forgotten our past. Truth is always stranger than
fiction and our past was very dark. So we(God) erased it and decided to
live in illusion.

Have you ever experienced "lucid dream"? In lucid dream, you are aware
that this is dream but everything around you looks so real. If you
control your lucid dream by logic, set of laws, mathematical equations
and if you do not wake up from that dream, then what you are
experiencing right now is "reality" for you.

You will not understand or believe me. You have designed yourself not
to believe me.

Enjoy the Matrix! Keep fighting over your own existence!
Ignorance Is Bliss.

Okay, no point, just a lot of babble.
Have a Cool Yule!
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 08:05:37 AM
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Abhi <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Robibnikoff wrote:

I'm sorry, but do you actually have some kind of a point or do you
just like to hear yourself type?

Sigh!
The point is that "Christopher" dreamed this universe and himself in
that universe. He just was not satisfied by that dream. He was willing
to see how does it "feel" in that dream. He was alone and had no other
job anyway. So he entered in imaginary body of "christopher" and he is
just enjoying his time in alt.atheism!
We are God. We have forgotten our past. Truth is always stranger than
fiction and our past was very dark. So we(God) erased it and decided to
live in illusion.
Have you ever experienced "lucid dream"? In lucid dream, you are aware
that this is dream but everything around you looks so real. If you
control your lucid dream by logic, set of laws, mathematical equations
and if you do not wake up from that dream, then what you are
experiencing right now is "reality" for you.
You will not understand or believe me. You have designed yourself not
to believe me.
Enjoy the Matrix! Keep fighting over your own existence!
Ignorance Is Bliss.

Okay, no point, just a lot of babble.

He sounds like another solipsistic matrix freak to me, high as a kite
on own dreams.
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 08:13:50 AM
"Elroy Willis" <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:ulsqs0dor4maleq64i23jeje0oo2nf61tl@4ax.com...

Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Abhi <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Robibnikoff wrote:


I'm sorry, but do you actually have some kind of a point or do you
just like to hear yourself type?


Sigh!


The point is that "Christopher" dreamed this universe and himself in
that universe. He just was not satisfied by that dream. He was willing
to see how does it "feel" in that dream. He was alone and had no other
job anyway. So he entered in imaginary body of "christopher" and he is
just enjoying his time in alt.atheism!


We are God. We have forgotten our past. Truth is always stranger than
fiction and our past was very dark. So we(God) erased it and decided to
live in illusion.


Have you ever experienced "lucid dream"? In lucid dream, you are aware
that this is dream but everything around you looks so real. If you
control your lucid dream by logic, set of laws, mathematical equations
and if you do not wake up from that dream, then what you are
experiencing right now is "reality" for you.


You will not understand or believe me. You have designed yourself not
to believe me.


Enjoy the Matrix! Keep fighting over your own existence!
Ignorance Is Bliss.


Okay, no point, just a lot of babble.


He sounds like another solipsistic matrix freak to me, high as a kite
on own dreams.

Excellent assessment :)
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.



User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 03:14:38 PM
In our last episode <1103973125.753243.7880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Abhi lept out of the bushes shouting:

The point is that "Christopher" dreamed this universe

Dammit, I *knew it was all his fault!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 04:36:31 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:x_idnT5NsYbFSlDcRVn-qw@megapath.net...

In our last episode <1103973125.753243.7880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Abhi lept out of the bushes shouting:

The point is that "Christopher" dreamed this universe


Dammit, I *knew it was all his fault!

Just as I suspected. Hrumph! :)
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 26 Dec 2004 06:08:56 AM
In our last episode <3368bdF3t7mmkU1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:x_idnT5NsYbFSlDcRVn-qw@megapath.net...

In our last episode
<1103973125.753243.7880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Abhi lept out of
the bushes shouting:

The point is that "Christopher" dreamed this universe


Dammit, I *knew it was all his fault!


Just as I suspected. Hrumph! :)

BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!
(Thought you might like to be on the other side for a change <G>)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 26 Dec 2004 07:09:52 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:gNKdndvLjsZtNVPcRVn-gQ@megapath.net...

In our last episode <3368bdF3t7mmkU1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:x_idnT5NsYbFSlDcRVn-qw@megapath.net...

In our last episode
<1103973125.753243.7880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Abhi lept out of
the bushes shouting:

The point is that "Christopher" dreamed this universe


Dammit, I *knew it was all his fault!


Just as I suspected. Hrumph! :)


BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!

Um...WHAT?!?!


(Thought you might like to be on the other side for a change <G>)

Woohoo! Lemme get my lighter! :)
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 26 Dec 2004 07:59:01 AM
In our last episode <337rguF3s32l7U1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:gNKdndvLjsZtNVPcRVn-gQ@megapath.net...

In our last episode <3368bdF3t7mmkU1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept
out of the bushes shouting:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:x_idnT5NsYbFSlDcRVn-qw@megapath.net...

In our last episode
<1103973125.753243.7880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Abhi lept out
of the bushes shouting:

The point is that "Christopher" dreamed this universe


Dammit, I *knew it was all his fault!


Just as I suspected. Hrumph! :)


BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!


Um...WHAT?!?!


(Thought you might like to be on the other side for a change <G>)


Woohoo! Lemme get my lighter! :)

It *is Christmas. <G>
Besides, I'm out of firewood and it's *cold!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 26 Dec 2004 08:33:38 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:Mo2dnTvfFYYhX1PcRVn-qA@megapath.net...

In our last episode <337rguF3s32l7U1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:gNKdndvLjsZtNVPcRVn-gQ@megapath.net...

In our last episode <3368bdF3t7mmkU1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff lept
out of the bushes shouting:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:x_idnT5NsYbFSlDcRVn-qw@megapath.net...

In our last episode
<1103973125.753243.7880@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Abhi lept out
of the bushes shouting:

The point is that "Christopher" dreamed this universe


Dammit, I *knew it was all his fault!


Just as I suspected. Hrumph! :)


BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!


Um...WHAT?!?!


(Thought you might like to be on the other side for a change <G>)


Woohoo! Lemme get my lighter! :)


It *is Christmas. <G>

Besides, I'm out of firewood and it's *cold!

Shoot, it's in the low 20s here and we're supposed to get snow later today
:)
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.








User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 06:10:04 AM
On 25 Dec 2004 00:36:14 -0800, "Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>
wrote:


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On 24 Dec 2004 12:39:01 -0800, "Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his

life

for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama,

Siddharth,

Mohammad.


No. You BELIEVE that. But it doesn't make it so.

One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble will

to

end sufferings of living being and show right path to live.

Personally

I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies

named

Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.

We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead of

that

we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but I
think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness,

peace

to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us.
Once again, Merry X'mas to all of you.


Prove it exists or shut the ***** up.


Do you exist? Is it necessary to prove your existence?

Dishonest theist cop out.
Either prove it exists or admit you have nothing nothing to say.
AND apologise for your intellectual dishonesty.
.
User: "Abhi"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 07:57:58 AM
Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On 25 Dec 2004 00:36:14 -0800, "Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>
wrote:


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On 24 Dec 2004 12:39:01 -0800, "Abhi"

<Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>

wrote:

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed

his

life

for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama,

Siddharth,

Mohammad.


No. You BELIEVE that. But it doesn't make it so.

One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble

will

to

end sufferings of living being and show right path to live.

Personally

I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies

named

Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.

We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead

of

that

we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but

I

think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness,

peace

to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us.
Once again, Merry X'mas to all of you.


Prove it exists or shut the ***** up.


Do you exist? Is it necessary to prove your existence?


Dishonest theist cop out.

Either prove it exists or admit you have nothing nothing to say.

AND apologise for your intellectual dishonesty.

It is you who is intellecually dishonest. You snipped lot of post and
didn't cared to type [snip].
And I am not theist.
Proving existence of God:
Take the coin out of your pocket. You have been taught that value of
pi = 3.141592... Now ckeck all the libraries, 8 billion pages on whole
google, nobody ever "experimentally" measured value of pi. Try that
needle applet, it never reaches and remain constant over that figure
i.e. 3.141592.
No, value of pi is not used in projectile motion and hence missile
trajectory neither it is used in space exploration.
In this age, when 2 billion miles away, Huygens probe is heading
towards Titan, mankind never cared to carry out simple experiments
using threads, strings to measure circumference of any circular body to
verify value of pi.
Can God change "constant" i.e. value of pi in this age?
To prove His existence, He is going to change it. What is going to be
His "choice", I don't know. What I know that *constant is being
changed*.
Wonder, who controlled entire mankind for centuries not to do simple
experiments?
Any guess?
-Abhi.
.
User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 08:17:47 AM
On 25 Dec 2004 05:57:58 -0800, "Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>
wrote:


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On 25 Dec 2004 00:36:14 -0800, "Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>
wrote:


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On 24 Dec 2004 12:39:01 -0800, "Abhi"

<Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>

wrote:

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed

his

life

for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama,

Siddharth,

Mohammad.


No. You BELIEVE that. But it doesn't make it so.

One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble

will

to

end sufferings of living being and show right path to live.

Personally

I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies

named

Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.

We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead

of

that

we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but

I

think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness,

peace

to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us.
Once again, Merry X'mas to all of you.


Prove it exists or shut the ***** up.


Do you exist? Is it necessary to prove your existence?


Dishonest theist cop out.

Either prove it exists or admit you have nothing nothing to say.

AND apologise for your intellectual dishonesty.


It is you who is intellecually dishonest. You snipped lot of post and
didn't cared to type [snip].

Liar.
You made the baseless assdertion TO ATHEISTS that your pretend froend
exists.

And I am not theist.

Then why dis yousay it existed?

Proving existence of God:

Take the coin out of your pocket. You have been taught that value of
pi = 3.141592... Now ckeck all the libraries, 8 billion pages on whole
google, nobody ever "experimentally" measured value of pi. Try that
needle applet, it never reaches and remain constant over that figure
i.e. 3.141592.

You need to learn what "proof" is.
Or are you saying that pi exists therefore by analogy God does?
It's not a good start.
Because you would have to step aside from God completely and derive it
from first principles.
Which you're not doing.
You also need to give a comprehensive, justified definition of it.
Which you're not doing either.

No, value of pi is not used in projectile motion and hence missile
trajectory neither it is used in space exploration.

Which is absolutely nothingto do with proving this as-yet undefined
thing you call "God".

In this age, when 2 billion miles away, Huygens probe is heading
towards Titan, mankind never cared to carry out simple experiments
using threads, strings to measure circumference of any circular body to
verify value of pi.

Can God change "constant" i.e. value of pi in this age?

What a remarkably stupid question until you've proven its existence.

To prove His existence, He is going to change it. What is going to be
His "choice", I don't know. What I know that *constant is being
changed*.

*****.
Look up "begging the question".
You're supposed to be proving it not presuming it.

Wonder, who controlled entire mankind for centuries not to do simple
experiments?

Another remarkably stupid question that invalidly presumes it needs a
"who"?

Any guess?

Guess what? That you are a complete idiot?

-Abhi.

.



User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 02:53:03 AM
On 25 Dec 2004, Abhi dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On 24 Dec 2004 12:39:01 -0800, "Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his

life

for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama,

Siddharth,

Mohammad.


No. You BELIEVE that. But it doesn't make it so.

One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble will

to

end sufferings of living being and show right path to live.

Personally

I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies

named

Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.

We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead of

that

we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but I
think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness,

peace

to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us.
Once again, Merry X'mas to all of you.


Prove it exists or shut the ***** up.


Do you exist? Is it necessary to prove your existence?

It happened like this:

One "morning" Christopher A. Lee woke up. He found that he does not
have body. He has just consciousness, feelings. He found that he is
alone and nothing, absolutely nothing exists except him. He tried to
detroy himself but he found that he can not die.

Now for him, survival was not problem. How to live, this was the
problem. Due to isolation, he found that his power of imagination is
increasing. Using his enormous power of imagination, he built the
universe(s). He made a trillions of bodies, one of them named "
Christopher A. Lee" and decided to have "In-Body-Experience". He
entered in those trillions of bodies and is having
"In-Body-Experience". Sometime he does have "Out-of-Body Experience" in
which his consciousness exit these bodies. But he quickly returns to
those bodies.

He has forgotten, erased his past. He don't want to remember it. There
is "nothing". And now he is just enjoying this matrix built by him. Now
Christopher is in "alt.atheism" group enjoying, trolling, making
timepass fighting over God does not exist!

This is like big drama. God has already written lines, forgot his
"self" like actors do while acting. He has taken precaution that all
the actors do not "wake up" in this drama. Otherwise this drama would
collapse.

Perhaps you will not believe me. But in the end, your situation will be
like that Bruce Willis in "The Sixth Sense". In that movie, in the end,
Bruce Willis realizes that he himself is dead. Likewise in the end, you
are going to realise that you are God.
Do you exist, Christopher?

-Abhi.


I don't know about you, but I'm starting to like this guy.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
--------
Hebrews 11:1
Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not
seen.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 25 Dec 2004 03:15:13 PM
In our last episode <Xns95CA95054A6Fvicman@204.127.199.17>, Vic Sagerquist
lept out of the bushes shouting:

On 25 Dec 2004, Abhi dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On 24 Dec 2004 12:39:01 -0800, "Abhi" <Abhijeet_B_Patil@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Merry Christmas to all of you.

I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his

life

for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama,

Siddharth,

Mohammad.


No. You BELIEVE that. But it doesn't make it so.

One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble will

to

end sufferings of living being and show right path to live.

Personally

I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies

named

Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.

We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead of

that

we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but I
think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness,

peace

to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us. Once again, Merry X'mas
to all of you.


Prove it exists or shut the ***** up.


Do you exist? Is it necessary to prove your existence?

It happened like this:

One "morning" Christopher A. Lee woke up. He found that he does not have
body. He has just consciousness, feelings. He found that he is alone and
nothing, absolutely nothing exists except him. He tried to detroy
himself but he found that he can not die.

Now for him, survival was not problem. How to live, this was the
problem. Due to isolation, he found that his power of imagination is
increasing. Using his enormous power of imagination, he built the
universe(s). He made a trillions of bodies, one of them named "
Christopher A. Lee" and decided to have "In-Body-Experience". He entered
in those trillions of bodies and is having "In-Body-Experience".
Sometime he does have "Out-of-Body Experience" in which his
consciousness exit these bodies. But he quickly returns to those bodies.

He has forgotten, erased his past. He don't want to remember it. There
is "nothing". And now he is just enjoying this matrix built by him. Now
Christopher is in "alt.atheism" group enjoying, trolling, making
timepass fighting over God does not exist!

This is like big drama. God has already written lines, forgot his "self"
like actors do while acting. He has taken precaution that all the actors
do not "wake up" in this drama. Otherwise this drama would collapse.

Perhaps you will not believe me. But in the end, your situation will be
like that Bruce Willis in "The Sixth Sense". In that movie, in the end,
Bruce Willis realizes that he himself is dead. Likewise in the end, you
are going to realise that you are God. Do you exist, Christopher?

-Abhi.



I don't know about you, but I'm starting to like this guy.

Okay, no more of the eggnog for you *either.
(What the hell's in this stuff?)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.




User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Merry Christmas To All of You... 24 Dec 2004 03:44:04 PM
On 24 Dec 2004, Abhi dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

Merry Christmas to all of you.

Thanks. Happy Winter Solstice to you.


I do not believe in any religion but I think this is the day to
remember with gratitude that great person Jesus. He sacrificed his life
for noble cause and he is one of my biggest hero like Rama, Siddharth,
Mohammad.

If you do not believe any religion, why have supernatural heroes? And
why Jesus in particular? Why not Carl Sagan?


One thing is common in all these great people i.e. pure noble will to
end sufferings of living being and show right path to live. Personally
I believe that one pure noble will was born in different bodies named
Jesus, Rama, Siddharth, Mohammad to show right path to humanity.

We should follow the teaching of these great people but instead of that
we are fighting over whether God exist or not. God does exist but I
think our aim should be to find the way how to bring happiness, peace
to all the living beings. If we achieve this aim, existence or
non-existence of God is not necessary for us.
Once again, Merry X'mas to all of you.

People will fight over which fantasy is real, and it's usually theirs.
Imagine how many people have died in the name of these "gods".
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
--------
Hebrews 11:1
Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not
seen.
.


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