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Religions > Atheism |
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"Michelle Malkin" |
| Date: |
21 Sep 2004 02:23:11 AM |
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Message From Michael Moore |
This is from his mailing list, but it's pretty much how he
began his talk at the Tweeter Center in Camden, NJ tonight.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Put Away Your Hankies...a
message from Michael Moore
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:35:06 +0000
From:
To:
9/20/04
Dear Friends,
Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to come
there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the defeatism, OK? Bush IS
a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining and bellyaching and stop shaking
like a bunch of nervous ninnies. Geez, this is embarrassing! The Republicans
are laughing at us. Do you ever see them cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are
finished! Bush can't win! Waaaaaa!"
Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is shredded. They
are never finished -- they just keeping moving forward like sharks that
never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking, lying.
They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they just
simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls itself
"Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White House, both houses
of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority of the governorships. How do
you think they've been able to pull that off considering they are a
minority? It's because they eat you and me and every other liberal for
breakfast and then spend the rest of the day wreaking havoc on the planet.
Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after his
convention and you would have thought the Germans had run through Poland
again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are coming! Yes, they caught
Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes, they found the frequency in Dan
Rather and ran with it. Suddenly it's like, "THE END IS NEAR! THE SKY IS
FALLING!"
No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a candidate Kerry
is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a lousy candidate -- he's
a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so pathetic, they even lose the
elections they win! What were you expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up
the ticket? Bruce would make a helluva president, but guys like him don't
run -- and neither do you or I. People like Kerry run.
Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-*****
campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of those phony
swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for president -- Kerry
is. So quit complaining and work with what we have. Oprah just gave 300
women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of them frowning and moaning and
screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin' Pontiac!" Of course not, they were happy.
The Pontiacs all had four wheels, an engine and a gas pedal. You want more
than that, well, I can't help you. I had a Pontiac once and it lasted a good
year. And it was a VERY good year.
My friends, it is time for a reality check.
1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On Friday,
one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had them both tied.
There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.: One, they are polling
"likely voters." "Likely" means those who have consistently voted in the
past few elections. So that cuts out young people who are voting for the
first time and a ton of non-voters who are definitely going to vote in THIS
election. Second, they are not polling people who use their cell phone as
their primary phone. Again, that means they are not talking to young people.
Finally, most of the polls are weighted with too many Republicans, as
pollster John Zogby revealed last week. You are being snookered if you
believe any of these polls.
2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning Clinton (as
Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.
3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell ya, there
is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not being captured by
the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it is real. Do not let those
well-produced Bush rallies of angry white people scare you. Turn off the TV!
(Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers -- everything else is just a
sugar-coated lie).
4. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11" (the fear
of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job we are doing in
Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you might have noticed, has
descended into the third level of a hell we used to call Vietnam. There is
no way out. It is a full-blown mess of a quagmire and the body bags will
sadly only mount higher. Regardless of what Kerry meant by his original war
vote, he ain't the one who sent those kids to their deaths -- and Mr. and
Mrs. Middle America knows it. Had Bush bothered to show up when he was in
the "service" he might have somewhat of a clue as to how to recognize an
immoral war that cannot be "won." All he has delivered to Iraq was that
plasticized turkey last Thanksgiving. It is this failure of monumental
proportions that is going to cook his goose come this November.
So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people need you
to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back into your easy chair
and feel that sick pain in your gut as you contemplate another four years of
George W. Bush. They need you to wish we had a candidate who didn't windsurf
and who was just as smart as we were when WE knew Bush was lying about WMD
and Saddam planning 9/11. It's like Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry
voted for the war...Kerry voted for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted fooooor
theeee warrrrrrrrrr..."
Yes...Yes...Yesssss...He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting now...what I need
is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...
WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans are
pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that assault
weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the war is wrong. YOU
DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS -- YOU JUST HAVE TO GIVE
THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE POLLS. CAN YOU DO THAT? WILL YOU DO
THAT?
Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our hands. Not
another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can ***** all you want about
how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired kid who once had the courage
to stand up for something. Personally, I think that kid is still inside him.
Instead of the wailing and gnashing of your teeth, why not hold out a hand
to him and help the inner soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces
of evil we now so desperately face. Do we have any other choice?
Yours,
Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com
mmflint@aol.com
--
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alt.atheism atheist/agnostic list name collector
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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never
stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we." George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Message From Michael Moore |
21 Sep 2004 07:47:00 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:O86dncMIAKpMS9LcRVn-tg@comcast.com:
This is from his mailing list, but it's pretty much how he
began his talk at the Tweeter Center in Camden, NJ tonight.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Put Away Your Hankies...a
message from Michael Moore
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:35:06 +0000
From:
To:
9/20/04
Dear Friends,
Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to
come there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the defeatism,
OK? Bush IS a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining and bellyaching
and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies. Geez, this is
embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. Do you ever see them
cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are finished! Bush can't win! Waaaaaa!"
Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is shredded.
They are never finished -- they just keeping moving forward like
sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking,
lying.
They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they
just simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls itself
"Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White House, both
houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority of the
governorships. How do you think they've been able to pull that off
considering they are a minority? It's because they eat you and me and
every other liberal for breakfast and then spend the rest of the day
wreaking havoc on the planet.
Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after his
convention and you would have thought the Germans had run through
Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are coming! Yes,
they caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes, they found the
frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly it's like, "THE END
IS NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"
No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a candidate
Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a lousy
candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so
pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you
expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would make a
helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and neither do you
or I. People like Kerry run.
Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-*****
campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of those
phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for president
-- Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we have. Oprah
just gave 300 women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of them frowning and
moaning and screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin' Pontiac!" Of course
not, they were happy. The Pontiacs all had four wheels, an engine and
a gas pedal. You want more than that, well, I can't help you. I had a
Pontiac once and it lasted a good year. And it was a VERY good year.
My friends, it is time for a reality check.
1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On
Friday, one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had them
both tied. There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.: One, they
are polling "likely voters." "Likely" means those who have
consistently voted in the past few elections. So that cuts out young
people who are voting for the first time and a ton of non-voters who
are definitely going to vote in THIS election. Second, they are not
polling people who use their cell phone as their primary phone. Again,
that means they are not talking to young people. Finally, most of the
polls are weighted with too many Republicans, as pollster John Zogby
revealed last week. You are being snookered if you believe any of
these polls.
2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning
Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.
3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell ya,
there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not being
captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it is real.
Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white people
scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers --
everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).
4. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11" (the
fear of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job we are
doing in Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you might have
noticed, has descended into the third level of a hell we used to call
Vietnam. There is no way out. It is a full-blown mess of a quagmire
and the body bags will sadly only mount higher. Regardless of what
Kerry meant by his original war vote, he ain't the one who sent those
kids to their deaths -- and Mr. and Mrs. Middle America knows it. Had
Bush bothered to show up when he was in the "service" he might have
somewhat of a clue as to how to recognize an immoral war that cannot
be "won." All he has delivered to Iraq was that plasticized turkey
last Thanksgiving. It is this failure of monumental proportions that
is going to cook his goose come this November.
So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people need
you to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back into your
easy chair and feel that sick pain in your gut as you contemplate
another four years of George W. Bush. They need you to wish we had a
candidate who didn't windsurf and who was just as smart as we were
when WE knew Bush was lying about WMD and Saddam planning 9/11. It's
like Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry voted for the war...Kerry
voted for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted fooooor theeee
warrrrrrrrrr..."
Yes...Yes...Yesssss...He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting now...what
I need is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...
WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans are
pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that
assault weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the war
is wrong. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS -- YOU
JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE POLLS. CAN YOU
DO THAT? WILL YOU DO THAT?
Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our hands.
Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can ***** all you
want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired kid who once
had the courage to stand up for something. Personally, I think that
kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and gnashing of your
teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the inner
soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we now so
desperately face. Do we have any other choice?
Yours,
Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com
mmflint@aol.com
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He sucks like
the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that doesn't matter
because *I* am telling you who to vote for. Trussst MEeee."
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Message From Michael Moore |
21 Sep 2004 12:04:37 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956B5959E45EDfstone69@207.69.189.196...
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:O86dncMIAKpMS9LcRVn-tg@comcast.com:
This is from his mailing list, but it's pretty much how he
began his talk at the Tweeter Center in Camden, NJ tonight.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Put Away Your Hankies...a
message from Michael Moore
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:35:06 +0000
From:
To:
9/20/04
Dear Friends,
Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to
come there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the defeatism,
OK? Bush IS a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining and bellyaching
and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies. Geez, this is
embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. Do you ever see them
cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are finished! Bush can't win! Waaaaaa!"
Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is shredded.
They are never finished -- they just keeping moving forward like
sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking,
lying.
They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they
just simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls itself
"Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White House, both
houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority of the
governorships. How do you think they've been able to pull that off
considering they are a minority? It's because they eat you and me and
every other liberal for breakfast and then spend the rest of the day
wreaking havoc on the planet.
Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after his
convention and you would have thought the Germans had run through
Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are coming! Yes,
they caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes, they found the
frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly it's like, "THE END
IS NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"
No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a candidate
Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a lousy
candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so
pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you
expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would make a
helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and neither do you
or I. People like Kerry run.
Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-*****
campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of those
phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for president
-- Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we have. Oprah
just gave 300 women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of them frowning and
moaning and screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin' Pontiac!" Of course
not, they were happy. The Pontiacs all had four wheels, an engine and
a gas pedal. You want more than that, well, I can't help you. I had a
Pontiac once and it lasted a good year. And it was a VERY good year.
My friends, it is time for a reality check.
1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On
Friday, one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had them
both tied. There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.: One, they
are polling "likely voters." "Likely" means those who have
consistently voted in the past few elections. So that cuts out young
people who are voting for the first time and a ton of non-voters who
are definitely going to vote in THIS election. Second, they are not
polling people who use their cell phone as their primary phone. Again,
that means they are not talking to young people. Finally, most of the
polls are weighted with too many Republicans, as pollster John Zogby
revealed last week. You are being snookered if you believe any of
these polls.
2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning
Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.
3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell ya,
there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not being
captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it is real.
Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white people
scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers --
everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).
4. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11" (the
fear of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job we are
doing in Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you might have
noticed, has descended into the third level of a hell we used to call
Vietnam. There is no way out. It is a full-blown mess of a quagmire
and the body bags will sadly only mount higher. Regardless of what
Kerry meant by his original war vote, he ain't the one who sent those
kids to their deaths -- and Mr. and Mrs. Middle America knows it. Had
Bush bothered to show up when he was in the "service" he might have
somewhat of a clue as to how to recognize an immoral war that cannot
be "won." All he has delivered to Iraq was that plasticized turkey
last Thanksgiving. It is this failure of monumental proportions that
is going to cook his goose come this November.
So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people need
you to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back into your
easy chair and feel that sick pain in your gut as you contemplate
another four years of George W. Bush. They need you to wish we had a
candidate who didn't windsurf and who was just as smart as we were
when WE knew Bush was lying about WMD and Saddam planning 9/11. It's
like Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry voted for the war...Kerry
voted for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted fooooor theeee
warrrrrrrrrr..."
Yes...Yes...Yesssss...He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting now...what
I need is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...
WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans are
pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that
assault weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the war
is wrong. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS -- YOU
JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE POLLS. CAN YOU
DO THAT? WILL YOU DO THAT?
Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our hands.
Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can ***** all you
want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired kid who once
had the courage to stand up for something. Personally, I think that
kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and gnashing of your
teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the inner
soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we now so
desperately face. Do we have any other choice?
Yours,
Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com
mmflint@aol.com
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He sucks like
the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that doesn't matter
because *I* am telling you who to vote for. Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly Suuuuuuucks is
still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better than
Bush.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Message From Michael Moore |
21 Sep 2004 01:24:48 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:AJidnR55iqC9ws3cRVn-ug@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956B5959E45EDfstone69@207.69.189.196...
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:O86dncMIAKpMS9LcRVn-tg@comcast.com:
This is from his mailing list, but it's pretty much how he
began his talk at the Tweeter Center in Camden, NJ tonight.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Put Away Your
Hankies...a message from Michael Moore
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:35:06 +0000
From:
To:
9/20/04
Dear Friends,
Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to
come there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the
defeatism, OK? Bush IS a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining
and bellyaching and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies.
Geez, this is embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. Do
you ever see them cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are finished! Bush
can't win! Waaaaaa!"
Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is
shredded. They are never finished -- they just keeping moving
forward like sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling,
kicking, blocking, lying.
They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they
just simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls
itself "Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White
House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority
of the governorships. How do you think they've been able to pull
that off considering they are a minority? It's because they eat you
and me and every other liberal for breakfast and then spend the
rest of the day wreaking havoc on the planet.
Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after
his convention and you would have thought the Germans had run
through Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are
coming! Yes, they caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes,
they found the frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly
it's like, "THE END IS NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"
No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a
candidate Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a
lousy candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is
so pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you
expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would
make a helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and
neither do you or I. People like Kerry run.
Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-*****
campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of
those phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for
president -- Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we
have. Oprah just gave 300 women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of
them frowning and moaning and screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin'
Pontiac!" Of course not, they were happy. The Pontiacs all had four
wheels, an engine and a gas pedal. You want more than that, well, I
can't help you. I had a Pontiac once and it lasted a good year. And
it was a VERY good year.
My friends, it is time for a reality check.
1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On
Friday, one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had
them both tied. There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.:
One, they are polling "likely voters." "Likely" means those who
have consistently voted in the past few elections. So that cuts out
young people who are voting for the first time and a ton of
non-voters who are definitely going to vote in THIS election.
Second, they are not polling people who use their cell phone as
their primary phone. Again, that means they are not talking to
young people. Finally, most of the polls are weighted with too many
Republicans, as pollster John Zogby revealed last week. You are
being snookered if you believe any of these polls.
2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning
Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.
3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell
ya, there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not
being captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it
is real. Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white
people scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill
Moyers -- everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).
4. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11"
(the fear of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job
we are doing in Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you
might have noticed, has descended into the third level of a hell we
used to call Vietnam. There is no way out. It is a full-blown mess
of a quagmire and the body bags will sadly only mount higher.
Regardless of what Kerry meant by his original war vote, he ain't
the one who sent those kids to their deaths -- and Mr. and Mrs.
Middle America knows it. Had Bush bothered to show up when he was
in the "service" he might have somewhat of a clue as to how to
recognize an immoral war that cannot be "won." All he has delivered
to Iraq was that plasticized turkey last Thanksgiving. It is this
failure of monumental proportions that is going to cook his goose
come this November.
So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people
need you to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back
into your easy chair and feel that sick pain in your gut as you
contemplate another four years of George W. Bush. They need you to
wish we had a candidate who didn't windsurf and who was just as
smart as we were when WE knew Bush was lying about WMD and Saddam
planning 9/11. It's like Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry
voted for the war...Kerry voted for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted
fooooor theeee warrrrrrrrrr..."
Yes...Yes...Yesssss...He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting
now...what I need is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...
WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans
are pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that
assault weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the
war is wrong. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS
-- YOU JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE
POLLS. CAN YOU DO THAT? WILL YOU DO THAT?
Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our
hands. Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can *****
all you want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired
kid who once had the courage to stand up for something. Personally,
I think that kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and
gnashing of your teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the
inner soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we
now so desperately face. Do we have any other choice?
Yours,
Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com
mmflint@aol.com
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He sucks
like the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that doesn't
matter because *I* am telling you who to vote for. Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly Suuuuuuucks
is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better
than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you have for Bush
being So Awful are coming from the same kind of unabashed propaganda-
mongers as Moore and Rather? Do you really trust their judgement?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
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This is from his mailing list, but it's pretty much how he
began his talk at the Tweeter Center in Camden, NJ tonight.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Put Away Your
Hankies...a message from Michael Moore
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:35:06 +0000
From:
To:
9/20/04
Dear Friends,
Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to
come there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the
defeatism, OK? Bush IS a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining
and bellyaching and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies.
Geez, this is embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. Do
you ever see them cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are finished! Bush
can't win! Waaaaaa!"
Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is
shredded. They are never finished -- they just keeping moving
forward like sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling,
kicking, blocking, lying.
They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they
just simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls
itself "Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White
House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority
of the governorships. How do you think they've been able to pull
that off considering they are a minority? It's because they eat you
and me and every other liberal for breakfast and then spend the
rest of the day wreaking havoc on the planet.
Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after
his convention and you would have thought the Germans had run
through Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are
coming! Yes, they caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes,
they found the frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly
it's like, "THE END IS NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"
No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a
candidate Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a
lousy candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is
so pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you
expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would
make a helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and
neither do you or I. People like Kerry run.
Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-*****
campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of
those phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for
president -- Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we
have. Oprah just gave 300 women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of
them frowning and moaning and screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin'
Pontiac!" Of course not, they were happy. The Pontiacs all had four
wheels, an engine and a gas pedal. You want more than that, well, I
can't help you. I had a Pontiac once and it lasted a good year. And
it was a VERY good year.
My friends, it is time for a reality check.
1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On
Friday, one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had
them both tied. There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.:
One, they are polling "likely voters." "Likely" means those who
have consistently voted in the past few elections. So that cuts out
young people who are voting for the first time and a ton of
non-voters who are definitely going to vote in THIS election.
Second, they are not polling people who use their cell phone as
their primary phone. Again, that means they are not talking to
young people. Finally, most of the polls are weighted with too many
Republicans, as pollster John Zogby revealed last week. You are
being snookered if you believe any of these polls.
2. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning
Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.
3. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell
ya, there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not
being captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it
is real. Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white
people scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill
Moyers -- everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).
4. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11"
(the fear of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job
we are doing in Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you
might have noticed, has descended into the third level of a hell we
used to call Vietnam. There is no way out. It is a full-blown mess
of a quagmire and the body bags will sadly only mount higher.
Regardless of what Kerry meant by his original war vote, he ain't
the one who sent those kids to their deaths -- and Mr. and Mrs.
Middle America knows it. Had Bush bothered to show up when he was
in the "service" he might have somewhat of a clue as to how to
recognize an immoral war that cannot be "won." All he has delivered
to Iraq was that plasticized turkey last Thanksgiving. It is this
failure of monumental proportions that is going to cook his goose
come this November.
So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people
need you to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back
into your easy chair and feel that sick pain in your gut as you
contemplate another four years of George W. Bush. They need you to
wish we had a candidate who didn't windsurf and who was just as
smart as we were when WE knew Bush was lying about WMD and Saddam
planning 9/11. It's like Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry
voted for the war...Kerry voted for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted
fooooor theeee warrrrrrrrrr..."
Yes...Yes...Yesssss...He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting
now...what I need is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...
WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans
are pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that
assault weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the
war is wrong. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS
-- YOU JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE
POLLS. CAN YOU DO THAT? WILL YOU DO THAT?
Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our
hands. Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can *****
all you want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired
kid who once had the courage to stand up for something. Personally,
I think that kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and
gnashing of your teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the
inner soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we
now so desperately face. Do we have any other choice?
Yours,
Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com
mmflint@aol.com
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He sucks
like the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that doesn't
matter because *I* am telling you who to vote for. Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly Suuuuuuucks
is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better
than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you have for Bush
being So Awful are coming from the same kind of unabashed propaganda-
mongers as Moore and Rather?
No, because it's not. Are you suggesting that Moore and Rather are faking
the existence of a war in Iraq? Is Osama still at large an invention of the
Democratic party? Is Bush's determination to stifle stem cell research that
could save millions of lives a democratic conspiracy?
Do you really trust their judgement?
I don't give a ***** about their judgment. I know what I see.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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21 Sep 2004 03:55:40 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956B5959E45EDfstone69@207.69.189.196...
<...>
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He sucks
like the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that doesn't
matter because *I* am telling you who to vote for. Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly
Suuuuuuucks is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better
than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you have for
Bush being So Awful are coming from the same kind of unabashed
propaganda- mongers as Moore and Rather?
No, because it's not. Are you suggesting that Moore and Rather are
faking the existence of a war in Iraq? Is Osama still at large an
invention of the Democratic party?
Is Osama all that important of a target by himself? Worth tying up whole
armies?
Is Bush's determination to stifle
stem cell research that could save millions of lives a democratic
conspiracy?
Do the Democrats exaggerate the effects of that determination? Seems to
me that there are plenty of loopholes for private funding of stemcell
research.
Do you really trust their judgement?
I don't give a ***** about their judgment. I know what I see.
I know what I see too.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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21 Sep 2004 04:20:04 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:j9udnRDKjt-jGs3cRVn-hQ@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:AJidnR55iqC9ws3cRVn-ug@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956B5959E45EDfstone69@207.69.189.196...
<...>
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He sucks
like the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that doesn't
matter because *I* am telling you who to vote for. Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly
Suuuuuuucks is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better
than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you have for
Bush being So Awful are coming from the same kind of unabashed
propaganda- mongers as Moore and Rather?
No, because it's not. Are you suggesting that Moore and Rather are
faking the existence of a war in Iraq? Is Osama still at large an
invention of the Democratic party?
Is Osama all that important of a target by himself? Worth tying up whole
armies?
If Osama isn't that important, why did Bush say he was?
Is Bush's determination to stifle
stem cell research that could save millions of lives a democratic
conspiracy?
Do the Democrats exaggerate the effects of that determination? Seems to
me that there are plenty of loopholes for private funding of stemcell
research.
Irrelevant. There should not be the need for loopholes. Bush lets his
religious idiocy guide his judgments.
Do you really trust their judgement?
I don't give a ***** about their judgment. I know what I see.
I know what I see too.
Evidently we see two completely different things. At least I hope we do.
Kind of nice how you dodged the war example.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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21 Sep 2004 04:40:47 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956B5959E45EDfstone69@207.69.189.196...
<...>
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He
sucks like the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that
doesn't matter because *I* am telling you who to vote for.
Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly
Suuuuuuucks is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be
better than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you have for
Bush being So Awful are coming from the same kind of unabashed
propaganda- mongers as Moore and Rather?
No, because it's not. Are you suggesting that Moore and Rather are
faking the existence of a war in Iraq? Is Osama still at large an
invention of the Democratic party?
Is Osama all that important of a target by himself? Worth tying up
whole armies?
If Osama isn't that important, why did Bush say he was?
Bush also said not to get hung up about any individual.
Is Bush's determination to stifle
stem cell research that could save millions of lives a democratic
conspiracy?
Do the Democrats exaggerate the effects of that determination? Seems
to me that there are plenty of loopholes for private funding of
stemcell research.
Irrelevant. There should not be the need for loopholes. Bush lets his
religious idiocy guide his judgments.
And do you *really* want Michael Moore's idiocy guiding the judgement of
a John Kerry in the White House? Because that's the alternative that you
say isn't as bad as Bush is.
Do you really trust their judgement?
I don't give a ***** about their judgment. I know what I see.
I know what I see too.
Evidently we see two completely different things. At least I hope we
do.
Kind of nice how you dodged the war example.
No, the war isn't a Rather/Moore fake. The media *is* biased and they
*do* present a biased view of the progress we're making there. CBS is
proof of that bias. The only thing that surprises me is that any
intelligent viewer would think they're not biased.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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21 Sep 2004 05:33:44 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:0Ludnd3gZqyeBs3cRVn-sQ@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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<...>
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He
sucks like the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that
doesn't matter because *I* am telling you who to vote for.
Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly
Suuuuuuucks is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be
better than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you have for
Bush being So Awful are coming from the same kind of unabashed
propaganda- mongers as Moore and Rather?
No, because it's not. Are you suggesting that Moore and Rather are
faking the existence of a war in Iraq? Is Osama still at large an
invention of the Democratic party?
Is Osama all that important of a target by himself? Worth tying up
whole armies?
If Osama isn't that important, why did Bush say he was?
Bush also said not to get hung up about any individual.
That's not what he said when he promised us he'd hunt down Osama, now is it?
Is Bush's determination to stifle
stem cell research that could save millions of lives a democratic
conspiracy?
Do the Democrats exaggerate the effects of that determination? Seems
to me that there are plenty of loopholes for private funding of
stemcell research.
Irrelevant. There should not be the need for loopholes. Bush lets his
religious idiocy guide his judgments.
And do you *really* want Michael Moore's idiocy guiding the judgement of
a John Kerry in the White House? Because that's the alternative that you
say isn't as bad as Bush is.
If I had to choose between those two idiocies, then yes, I'd choose Moore's
idiocy over Bushes any day.
Michael's idiocy has not led us into 2 unnecessary wars full of unnecessary
death.
Do you really trust their judgement?
I don't give a ***** about their judgment. I know what I see.
I know what I see too.
Evidently we see two completely different things. At least I hope we
do.
Kind of nice how you dodged the war example.
No, the war isn't a Rather/Moore fake. The media *is* biased and they
*do* present a biased view of the progress we're making there.
***** PROGRESS. What the ***** are we doing there IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Being there isn't bias, it's criminal.
CBS is
proof of that bias. The only thing that surprises me is that any
intelligent viewer would think they're not biased.
***** bias. What the ***** are we doing in Iraq? What has Iraq got to do with
ANYTHING?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Message From Michael Moore |
21 Sep 2004 07:07:19 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956B5959E45EDfstone69@207.69.189.196...
<...>
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He
sucks like the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but
that doesn't matter because *I* am telling you who to vote
for. Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly
Suuuuuuucks is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be
better than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you have
for Bush being So Awful are coming from the same kind of
unabashed propaganda- mongers as Moore and Rather?
No, because it's not. Are you suggesting that Moore and Rather
are faking the existence of a war in Iraq? Is Osama still at
large an invention of the Democratic party?
Is Osama all that important of a target by himself? Worth tying up
whole armies?
If Osama isn't that important, why did Bush say he was?
Bush also said not to get hung up about any individual.
That's not what he said when he promised us he'd hunt down Osama, now
is it?
He *promised* you something?
Is Bush's determination to stifle
stem cell research that could save millions of lives a
democratic conspiracy?
Do the Democrats exaggerate the effects of that determination?
Seems to me that there are plenty of loopholes for private funding
of stemcell research.
Irrelevant. There should not be the need for loopholes. Bush lets
his religious idiocy guide his judgments.
And do you *really* want Michael Moore's idiocy guiding the judgement
of a John Kerry in the White House? Because that's the alternative
that you say isn't as bad as Bush is.
If I had to choose between those two idiocies, then yes, I'd choose
Moore's idiocy over Bushes any day.
Michael's idiocy is all about fantasy conspiracies and how stupid we
Americans really are.
Michael's idiocy has not led us into 2 unnecessary wars full of
unnecessary death.
Yet.
Do you really trust their judgement?
I don't give a ***** about their judgment. I know what I see.
I know what I see too.
Evidently we see two completely different things. At least I hope
we do.
Kind of nice how you dodged the war example.
No, the war isn't a Rather/Moore fake. The media *is* biased and they
*do* present a biased view of the progress we're making there.
***** PROGRESS. What the ***** are we doing there IN THE FIRST PLACE?
I see you can't manage to carry on a reasonable conversation.
Mekkala? Are you watching?
Even the damned fool UN agreed until we actually did something about it.
If we leave now we're fucked. WE MADE A COMMITMENT AND WE HAVE TO
FULFILL IT.
Being there isn't bias, it's criminal.
And THAT is proof that you've fallen for every bit of the propaganda the
Democrats have been whining out for four whole years.
CBS is
proof of that bias. The only thing that surprises me is that any
intelligent viewer would think they're not biased.
***** bias. What the ***** are we doing in Iraq? What has Iraq got to do
with ANYTHING?
It's where the conflict is, right now. It's the killing ground for all
those terrorists that Bush *promised* to go after.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Message From Michael Moore |
21 Sep 2004 11:52:30 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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<...>
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He
sucks like the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but
that doesn't matter because *I* am telling you who to vote
for. Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly
Suuuuuuucks is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be
better than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you have
for Bush being So Awful are coming from the same kind of
unabashed propaganda- mongers as Moore and Rather?
No, because it's not. Are you suggesting that Moore and Rather
are faking the existence of a war in Iraq? Is Osama still at
large an invention of the Democratic party?
Is Osama all that important of a target by himself? Worth tying up
whole armies?
If Osama isn't that important, why did Bush say he was?
Bush also said not to get hung up about any individual.
That's not what he said when he promised us he'd hunt down Osama, now
is it?
He *promised* you something?
He promised you too.
"I don't know whether we're going to get him tomorrow or a month from now or
a year from now. I don't really know. But we're going to get him,"
- - George Bush
I suppose the Democrats made him say that?
Is Bush's determination to stifle
stem cell research that could save millions of lives a
democratic conspiracy?
Do the Democrats exaggerate the effects of that determination?
Seems to me that there are plenty of loopholes for private funding
of stemcell research.
Irrelevant. There should not be the need for loopholes. Bush lets
his religious idiocy guide his judgments.
And do you *really* want Michael Moore's idiocy guiding the judgement
of a John Kerry in the White House? Because that's the alternative
that you say isn't as bad as Bush is.
If I had to choose between those two idiocies, then yes, I'd choose
Moore's idiocy over Bushes any day.
Michael's idiocy is all about fantasy conspiracies and how stupid we
Americans really are.
I think that's closer to the truth than God being on our side, isn't it?
Michael's idiocy has not led us into 2 unnecessary wars full of
unnecessary death.
Yet.
And Bush hasn't blown up the world...yet.
Do you really trust their judgement?
I don't give a ***** about their judgment. I know what I see.
I know what I see too.
Evidently we see two completely different things. At least I hope
we do.
Kind of nice how you dodged the war example.
No, the war isn't a Rather/Moore fake. The media *is* biased and they
*do* present a biased view of the progress we're making there.
***** PROGRESS. What the ***** are we doing there IN THE FIRST PLACE?
I see you can't manage to carry on a reasonable conversation.
Ohhhh, I'm SOOO sorry. Did I offend little Stonykins with the mean ol' "F"
word?
Grow up, for Pete's sake.
Mekkala? Are you watching?
Even the damned fool UN agreed until we actually did something about it.
If we leave now we're fucked. WE MADE A COMMITMENT AND WE HAVE TO
FULFILL IT.
Who's the idiot who made the boneheaded commitment? Bush, that's who.
Being there isn't bias, it's criminal.
And THAT is proof that you've fallen for every bit of the propaganda the
Democrats have been whining out for four whole years.
I fail to see a reason cited in your post. Why is it not criminal perpetrate
an unprovoked attack upon a soverign foreign nation? I'm listening.
CBS is
proof of that bias. The only thing that surprises me is that any
intelligent viewer would think they're not biased.
***** bias. What the ***** are we doing in Iraq? What has Iraq got to do
with ANYTHING?
It's where the conflict is, right now.
What, there has to be a conflict, and it was Iraq's turn? That's the
stupidest thing I've ever heard.
It's the killing ground for all
those terrorists that Bush *promised* to go after.
I see dead civilians. I suppose that's acceptable to you.
That's where we differ.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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<...>
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks.
He sucks like the intakes on a defective swimming pool,
but that doesn't matter because *I* am telling you who to
vote for. Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly
Suuuuuuucks is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would
be better than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you
have for Bush being So Awful are coming from the same kind
of unabashed propaganda- mongers as Moore and Rather?
No, because it's not. Are you suggesting that Moore and
Rather are faking the existence of a war in Iraq? Is Osama
still at large an invention of the Democratic party?
Is Osama all that important of a target by himself? Worth tying
up whole armies?
If Osama isn't that important, why did Bush say he was?
Bush also said not to get hung up about any individual.
That's not what he said when he promised us he'd hunt down Osama,
now is it?
He *promised* you something?
He promised you too.
"I don't know whether we're going to get him tomorrow or a month from
now or a year from now. I don't really know. But we're going to get
him,"
- - George Bush
I suppose the Democrats made him say that?
I see no particular timeline there. What's your hurry? Osama's not going
anywhere. He can't even show his face in public for fear of being
captured.
Is Bush's determination to stifle
stem cell research that could save millions of lives a
democratic conspiracy?
Do the Democrats exaggerate the effects of that determination?
Seems to me that there are plenty of loopholes for private
funding of stemcell research.
Irrelevant. There should not be the need for loopholes. Bush
lets his religious idiocy guide his judgments.
And do you *really* want Michael Moore's idiocy guiding the
judgement of a John Kerry in the White House? Because that's the
alternative that you say isn't as bad as Bush is.
If I had to choose between those two idiocies, then yes, I'd choose
Moore's idiocy over Bushes any day.
Michael's idiocy is all about fantasy conspiracies and how stupid we
Americans really are.
I think that's closer to the truth than God being on our side, isn't
it?
I suppose you think you're not one of the ones Moore thinks are so
stupid?
Michael's idiocy has not led us into 2 unnecessary wars full of
unnecessary death.
Yet.
And Bush hasn't blown up the world...yet.
At least Bush cares whether the world gets blown up. Moore only cares
about getting rich off of gullible fools.
Do you really trust their judgement?
I don't give a ***** about their judgment. I know what I see.
I know what I see too.
Evidently we see two completely different things. At least I
hope we do.
Kind of nice how you dodged the war example.
No, the war isn't a Rather/Moore fake. The media *is* biased and
they *do* present a biased view of the progress we're making
there.
***** PROGRESS. What the ***** are we doing there IN THE FIRST PLACE?
I see you can't manage to carry on a reasonable conversation.
Ohhhh, I'm SOOO sorry. Did I offend little Stonykins with the mean ol'
"F" word?
Grow up, for Pete's sake.
Oh, can I call names and scream invective so I can grow up just like
you?
Mekkala? Are you watching?
Even the damned fool UN agreed until we actually did something about
it. If we leave now we're fucked. WE MADE A COMMITMENT AND WE HAVE TO
FULFILL IT.
Who's the idiot who made the boneheaded commitment? Bush, that's who.
Electing Kerry won't justify abandoning that commitment.
Being there isn't bias, it's criminal.
And THAT is proof that you've fallen for every bit of the propaganda
the Democrats have been whining out for four whole years.
I fail to see a reason cited in your post. Why is it not criminal
perpetrate an unprovoked attack upon a soverign foreign nation? I'm
listening.
Where do you get the idea that it was unprovoked? Oh, that's right,
provocation has to be right-now, as-we-speak or it doesn't count.
Provocation yesterday doesn't justify war today.
CBS is
proof of that bias. The only thing that surprises me is that any
intelligent viewer would think they're not biased.
***** bias. What the ***** are we doing in Iraq? What has Iraq got to
do with ANYTHING?
It's where the conflict is, right now.
What, there has to be a conflict, and it was Iraq's turn? That's the
stupidest thing I've ever heard.
You sure have a stupid way of listening.
Aside from the fact that there's a war on, and Iraq is where the war is,
and has been for ten years or more, well, gee what can I tell you?
It's the killing ground for all
those terrorists that Bush *promised* to go after.
I see dead civilians. I suppose that's acceptable to you.
I see dead terrorists. THAT is more than acceptable to me.
That's where we differ.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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22 Sep 2004 12:58:38 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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<...>
(snip irrelevancies)
I see dead civilians. I suppose that's acceptable to you.
I see dead terrorists. THAT is more than acceptable to me.
Wow.
That's really all I need to know about you.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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22 Sep 2004 01:21:55 PM |
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[Piggybacking]
Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by "Denis Loubet"
in <0Ludnd3gZqyeBs3cRVn-sQ@io.com>:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Do you really trust their judgement?
I don't give a ***** about their judgment. I know what I see.
I know what I see too.
I know what Fred sees too. The inside of his *****.
--
The Very Irrev. Fear gan dia # http://goddamliberal.port5.com
"President Nixon was almost impeached for a burglary at the
Democratic Headquarters; President Clinton was impeached for
having sex with an intern. But President George W. Bush lied
to the Congress and the nation, instigated an illegitimate
war that killed thousands of people, invaded a sovereign
nation, and violated international law. No president has ever
provided such indisputable grounds for impeachment."
- Dr. Helen Caldicott, _The New Nuclear Danger_
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21 Sep 2004 04:56:41 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:24:48 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:AJidnR55iqC9ws3cRVn-ug@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:O86dncMIAKpMS9LcRVn-tg@comcast.com:
This is from his mailing list, but it's pretty much how he
began his talk at the Tweeter Center in Camden, NJ tonight.
<...>
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He sucks
like the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that doesn't
matter because *I* am telling you who to vote for. Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly Suuuuuuucks
is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better
than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you have for Bush
being So Awful are coming from the same kind of unabashed propaganda-
mongers as Moore and Rather? Do you really trust their judgement?
No, I don't trust Moore, any more than I do Limbaugh or Carville. But
I was repulsed by Bush even back when he was a darling of Texas media,
back when he was my governor. By his own words and deeds, I found him
contemptible.
I think both major parties are shot through with corruption, and their
primary goal is to perpetuate a rotten system that keeps them in
power. But the Republican party currently appears to be host (or
hostage) to a particularly nasty, efficient, and ruthless form of
corruption, bolstered by a deep and irrational base of religious
zealotry.
If the Republicans had fielded someone like McCain as their
presidential candidate, there is almost no chance someone like Kerry
would get my vote. I'm not a party loyalist--particularly since the
parties' leaders have repeatedly shown little loyalty to their own
core values and constituencies. I vote according to the qualities I
see in the individual (or these days, in the individual and the team
that controls him/her). Bush and Kerry could swap party labels and I
would still vote against Bush. He's a self-righteous, arrogant,
hypocritical, deceptive, secretive, thieving, malicious,
irresponsible, destructive, bloodthirsty, pampered little ***** who's
never had to clean up a mess of his own making his entire life. Most
people are a mix of redeeming characteristics and flaws. Very few
people have virtually none of either, but in Bush, the only character
trait I've seen that I'd consider even remotely commendable is his
loyalty to his friends. But given who his friends are, in his
capacity as president even that trait has been a liability for the
country at large.
I will freely admit that Bush isn't the absolute worst possible
president imaginable, and that Kerry is a long way from the best we
could have, but in comparing the two, I can easily tell which one will
come closer to my values when it comes to military campaigns,
environmental protections, education, medical policy decisions, worker
protections, deficit spending, civil liberties, the social safety net,
corporate welfare, international diplomacy, energy policy, judicial
appointments, and a host of other matters in which the president has
great influence.
Presumably, you feel Bush comes closer to your values on those issues
than Kerry does. What that means is simply that you and I have nearly
opposite values. That doesn't make me any sort of sucker for anyone's
propaganda.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
I vote for the lesser evil precisely because it *is* the lesser evil.
I gather you operate under a different voting philosophy.
Kronk
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21 Sep 2004 07:11:29 PM |
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(Kronk) wrote in news:415092fe.18143418@news.gvtc.com:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:24:48 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:AJidnR55iqC9ws3cRVn-ug@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956B5959E45EDfstone69@207.69.189.196...
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:O86dncMIAKpMS9LcRVn-tg@comcast.com:
This is from his mailing list, but it's pretty much how he
began his talk at the Tweeter Center in Camden, NJ tonight.
<...>
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He sucks
like the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that doesn't
matter because *I* am telling you who to vote for. Trussst MEeee."
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly Suuuuuuucks
is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better
than Bush.
Sigh. Have you ever considered that the only reasons you have for Bush
being So Awful are coming from the same kind of unabashed propaganda-
mongers as Moore and Rather? Do you really trust their judgement?
No, I don't trust Moore, any more than I do Limbaugh or Carville. But
I was repulsed by Bush even back when he was a darling of Texas media,
back when he was my governor. By his own words and deeds, I found him
contemptible.
I think both major parties are shot through with corruption, and their
primary goal is to perpetuate a rotten system that keeps them in
power. But the Republican party currently appears to be host (or
hostage) to a particularly nasty, efficient, and ruthless form of
corruption, bolstered by a deep and irrational base of religious
zealotry.
If the Republicans had fielded someone like McCain as their
presidential candidate, there is almost no chance someone like Kerry
would get my vote. I'm not a party loyalist--particularly since the
parties' leaders have repeatedly shown little loyalty to their own
core values and constituencies. I vote according to the qualities I
see in the individual (or these days, in the individual and the team
that controls him/her). Bush and Kerry could swap party labels and I
would still vote against Bush. He's a self-righteous, arrogant,
hypocritical, deceptive, secretive, thieving, malicious,
irresponsible, destructive, bloodthirsty, pampered little ***** who's
never had to clean up a mess of his own making his entire life. Most
people are a mix of redeeming characteristics and flaws. Very few
people have virtually none of either, but in Bush, the only character
trait I've seen that I'd consider even remotely commendable is his
loyalty to his friends. But given who his friends are, in his
capacity as president even that trait has been a liability for the
country at large.
I will freely admit that Bush isn't the absolute worst possible
president imaginable, and that Kerry is a long way from the best we
could have, but in comparing the two, I can easily tell which one will
come closer to my values when it comes to military campaigns,
environmental protections, education, medical policy decisions, worker
protections, deficit spending, civil liberties, the social safety net,
corporate welfare, international diplomacy, energy policy, judicial
appointments, and a host of other matters in which the president has
great influence.
In other words you're in favor of paying lip service to all those things
while going isolationist in reality and generally making no decisions
about anything consequential that you can be blamed for.
Presumably, you feel Bush comes closer to your values on those issues
than Kerry does. What that means is simply that you and I have nearly
opposite values. That doesn't make me any sort of sucker for anyone's
propaganda.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
I vote for the lesser evil precisely because it *is* the lesser evil.
I gather you operate under a different voting philosophy.
I contend that you haven't a clue about which evil is truly the lesser.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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21 Sep 2004 08:29:13 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:04:37 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
thought hard and said:
<snip>
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly Suuuuuuucks is
still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better than
Bush.
This ABB attitude the Democrats are using is going to end up biting
them in the ***** soon.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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22 Sep 2004 08:25:33 AM |
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Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:t9l1l0hd0gtc1ta3tc2kq98c0aq7iqf68p@4ax.com:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:04:37 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
thought hard and said:
<snip>
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly Suuuuuuucks
is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better
than Bush.
This ABB attitude the Democrats are using is going to end up biting
them in the ***** soon.
It's been biting them in the ***** all along. They ended up nominating
that moldy orange and now they have to figure out how to sell it without
letting people smell it.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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22 Sep 2004 05:23:55 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:25:33 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
thought hard and said:
Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:t9l1l0hd0gtc1ta3tc2kq98c0aq7iqf68p@4ax.com:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:04:37 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
thought hard and said:
<snip>
Yes, that's what he's saying. But Kerry, who reeeeeallly Suuuuuuucks
is still BETTER THAN BUSH.
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better
than Bush.
This ABB attitude the Democrats are using is going to end up biting
them in the ***** soon.
It's been biting them in the ***** all along. They ended up nominating
that moldy orange and now they have to figure out how to sell it without
letting people smell it.
"Yeah, well. At least that moldy orange ain't W.!"
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "raven1" |
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21 Sep 2004 03:35:47 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:04:37 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better than
Bush.
Leave Ralph Nader out of this!
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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21 Sep 2004 04:16:32 PM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:04:37 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
If we voted a moldy orange into the white house, it would be better than
Bush.
Leave Ralph Nader out of this!
SORRY! Sorry, my bad.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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21 Sep 2004 12:03:51 PM |
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On Tue 21 Sep 2004 07:47:00a, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> kicked
back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
Translation: "Kerry sucks, yes, he reeeeeallly Suuuuucks. He sucks like
the intakes on a defective swimming pool, but that doesn't matter
because *I* am telling you who to vote for. Trussst MEeee."
Moore, our shameless, rabble-rousing, emotionally-loaded, handwaving,
pulpit-thumping propagandist. I suppose no party can escape having at
least one, but yes, I am ashamed of him. Very.
What I don't understand, you mindless, slimy little twit, is why it's so
God-damned easy for you to see shameless propaganda when it comes out of
the mouth of a registered Democrat, but spout the equivalent yourself as if
it were Holy Scripture and praise to the skies the Republican heroes who
brainwash, rant, rave, disseminate disinformation, and smear ***** all over
their opponent.
You know, I don't hate people who disagree with me. I'm fine with you
disagreeing, as long as you're willing to keep it honorable, clean, and
intelligent. In fact, I may very well end up one of your closest friends
if I can have good discussions with you, even if I think the opposite of
all your major beliefs. In fact, I value honesty, integrity, and honor so
much that even those who agree with me, but stoop to dishonorable tactics,
are despicable in my book.
But there are a class of people I hate -- hypocrites. If it walks like a
hypocrite, talks like a hypocrite, and quacks like a hypocrite, it's a
hypocrite, and you're one of the worst, my buddy Fred.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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