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29 Jan 2005 09:46:21 PM |
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Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
A 10 lb meteorite which landed in northwest Cambodia recently had
locals seeing it as a divine omen of peace, and wanting to build a
shrine. This is in 2005.
Just theoretically, let's imagine what such a thing would do to a group
of people say, 4,000 years ago. Ignorant as they were, scientifically
speaking, they wouldn't have a clue that the thing had a perfectly
simple and natural origin.
Doubtlessly they'd invent a god responsible for it, berth him in the
mountains (since that's where rocks come from and this god must have
tossed it from there to get their attention) and start worshipping him.
Then they'd write about him in scrolls - about how he had out best
interests at heart, and wanted us to be his people.
Eventually, these scrolls might themselves become more sacred than the
original religion. Their sanctity would ensure their preservation.
They'd become the proccupation of people down the ages, and perhaps
even today, people would swallow this crap whole. But that's just a
theory. It couldn't really happen....
Oh...
Well, er, that's all I wanted to say....
Budikka
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| User: "Martin Willett" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
29 Jan 2005 10:30:23 PM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
A 10 lb meteorite which landed in northwest Cambodia recently had
locals seeing it as a divine omen of peace, and wanting to build a
shrine. This is in 2005.
Just theoretically, let's imagine what such a thing would do to a
group of people say, 4,000 years ago. Ignorant as they were,
scientifically speaking, they wouldn't have a clue that the thing
had
a perfectly simple and natural origin.
Doubtlessly they'd invent a god responsible for it, berth him in the
mountains (since that's where rocks come from and this god must have
tossed it from there to get their attention) and start worshipping
him. Then they'd write about him in scrolls - about how he had out
best interests at heart, and wanted us to be his people.
Eventually, these scrolls might themselves become more sacred than
the
original religion. Their sanctity would ensure their preservation.
They'd become the proccupation of people down the ages, and perhaps
even today, people would swallow this crap whole. But that's just a
theory. It couldn't really happen....
Oh...
Well, er, that's all I wanted to say....
Budikka
Scrolls become holy when a culture bans representations of gods in the
form of statues. Catholics allow people to worship statues so
Catholics don't get hung up about holy books. Muslims don't even let
you draw pictures of animals in case you get an overwhelming urge to
worship them. Arabic writing therefore inherits all the suppressed
sympathetic magic that by rights should go into statues and icons,
thereby making the language bloody useless for anything apart from
holy books. Hebrew suffered a similar fate.
I explained it better here when I was sober:
http://www.mwillett.org/atheism/christian-civilization.htm
I probably finish it soon.
Enjoy.
--
Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org/
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
29 Jan 2005 10:41:56 PM |
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Interesting post, OP. I was watching something on the History channel
which described something similar. Apperently, the Parthenon was built
on to of a falled meteor. Or so it was written.'
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
30 Jan 2005 06:40:32 AM |
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wrote:
Interesting post, OP. I was watching something on the
History channel which described something similar.
Apperently, the Parthenon was built
on to of a falled meteor. Or so it was written.'
I *did* look that up and couldn't immediately find anything relating
the Parthenon to a meteorite, but I found many references to one of the
seven wonders of the ancient world - the Temple of Diana (Artemis) at
Ephesus - incorporating a meteorite (so legend has it) in the building.
Could it be this that you're remembering?
Also I found a reference to Islam. One of the five pillars of Islam is
to romp around the Kaaba stone in Mecca. Apparently this stone is a
meteorite.
Here's a URL on the whole topic of worshipping rocks:
http://www.meteorite.fr/en/basics/history.htm
Does this mean religious addicts have rocks in their heads?!
B.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
30 Jan 2005 06:19:38 AM |
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wrote:
Interesting post, OP. I was watching something on the History channel
which described something similar. Apperently, the Parthenon was
built
on to of a falled meteor. Or so it was written.'
I did not know that! Thanks for the Info. I'll do some reading on it.
B.
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| User: "Sam" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
30 Jan 2005 06:50:10 AM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
usenet69@hotmail.com wrote:
Interesting post, OP. I was watching something on the History channel
which described something similar. Apperently, the Parthenon was
built
on to of a falled meteor. Or so it was written.'
I did not know that! Thanks for the Info. I'll do some reading on it.
B.
i thought the parthenon was *transported* by the meteor, you know, from
space and stuff
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| User: "Panama Floyd" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
30 Jan 2005 09:27:42 PM |
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Martin Willett wrote:
Budikka666 wrote:
snip a lil'
Eventually, these scrolls might themselves become more sacred than
the
original religion. Their sanctity would ensure their preservation.
They'd become the proccupation of people down the ages, and perhaps
even today, people would swallow this crap whole. But that's just
a
theory. It couldn't really happen....
Oh...
Well, er, that's all I wanted to say....
Budikka
Scrolls become holy when a culture bans representations of gods in
the
form of statues. Catholics allow people to worship statues so
Catholics don't get hung up about holy books. Muslims don't even let
you draw pictures of animals in case you get an overwhelming urge to
worship them. Arabic writing therefore inherits all the suppressed
sympathetic magic that by rights should go into statues and icons,
thereby making the language bloody useless for anything apart from
holy books. Hebrew suffered a similar fate.
I explained it better here when I was sober:
http://www.mwillett.org/atheism/christian-civilization.htm
Nice work, Martin. I can't believe I missed it while I was reading your
place.
I probably finish it soon.
Looking forward to it!
Enjoy.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org/
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta
aa#2015, Member KoB!
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
30 Jan 2005 06:18:46 AM |
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Martin Willett wrote:
Scrolls become holy when a culture bans representations
of gods in the form of statues. Catholics allow people
to worship statues so Catholics don't get hung up about
holy books.
Actually that's not strictly true - they were the ones who inanely
clung to having their version of scripture remain in Latin even though
Latin didn't remotely represent any original language in which these
fairytales were first spoken or recorded.
I explained it better here when I was sober:
http://www.mwillett.org/atheism/christian-civilization.htm
I probably finish it soon.
I hope so - it's looking good so far!
B.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
31 Jan 2005 04:20:01 PM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
A 10 lb meteorite which landed in northwest Cambodia recently had
locals seeing it as a divine omen of peace, and wanting to build a
shrine. This is in 2005.
Just theoretically, let's imagine what such a thing would do to a group
of people say, 4,000 years ago. Ignorant as they were, scientifically
speaking, they wouldn't have a clue that the thing had a perfectly
simple and natural origin.
Doubtlessly they'd invent a god responsible for it, berth him in the
mountains (since that's where rocks come from and this god must have
tossed it from there to get their attention) and start worshipping him.
Then they'd write about him in scrolls - about how he had out best
interests at heart, and wanted us to be his people.
Eventually, these scrolls might themselves become more sacred than the
original religion. Their sanctity would ensure their preservation.
They'd become the proccupation of people down the ages, and perhaps
even today, people would swallow this crap whole. But that's just a
theory. It couldn't really happen....
Oh...
Well, er, that's all I wanted to say....
Case in point: Islam. The shrine at Mecca was built originally to hold an
iron meteorite, which is still embedded in the corner of the Kaaba.
Touching the meteorite is consistered the most holy part of the Hajj.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
29 Jan 2005 10:21:45 PM |
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on 29 Jan 2005 in alt.atheism, Budikka666 dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
A 10 lb meteorite which landed in northwest Cambodia recently had
locals seeing it as a divine omen of peace, and wanting to build a
shrine. This is in 2005.
Imagine if it had destroyed a village. Divine Wrath! Time for a
sacrifice!
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are the kind of
people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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| User: "Guardian Pegasus" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
29 Jan 2005 11:23:07 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:21:45 -0600, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
Imagine if it had destroyed a village. Divine Wrath! Time for a
sacrifice!
I bet they sacrifice the non-believers, too... devolution :-\
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Meteorite Hits - People Get Religion! |
30 Jan 2005 01:43:48 AM |
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On 29 Jan 2005, Guardian Pegasus dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:21:45 -0600, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
Imagine if it had destroyed a village. Divine Wrath! Time for a
sacrifice!
I bet they sacrifice the non-believers, too... devolution :-\
dogmatic selection
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you
wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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