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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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12 Feb 2005 11:01:05 PM |
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Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
One of the more bizarre twists of the Michael Jackson child prostitution
case -- which seems to be the best label for what is alleged to have gone
on -- is that one of the fairly young boys is claiming that Michael
Jackson was able to cure him of cancer.
The ironic thing is, he may very well be right. A positive mental attitude
does wonders for one's overall medical condition, and that's beyound any
reasonable dispute. Living at Jackson's fun house was something that
kept the kid happy and cheerful, something that would probably come out
in court if it ever makes it to a full trial sice the defense will be
noting that none of the boys were ever apparently unhappy with whatever
went on there.
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| User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
13 Feb 2005 10:45:47 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:01:05 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
One of the more bizarre twists of the Michael Jackson child prostitution
case -- which seems to be the best label for what is alleged to have gone
on -- is that one of the fairly young boys is claiming that Michael
Jackson was able to cure him of cancer.
Michael Jackson is Jesus! This used to be a secret, but now it has
been revealed. Praise God!
The ironic thing is, he may very well be right. A positive mental attitude
does wonders for one's overall medical condition, and that's beyound any
reasonable dispute. Living at Jackson's fun house was something that
kept the kid happy and cheerful, something that would probably come out
in court if it ever makes it to a full trial sice the defense will be
noting that none of the boys were ever apparently unhappy with whatever
went on there.
Laughter *MIGHT* be an anti-carcinogen but I kind of doubt it.
Malignant cells don't really care what is going on in the rest of
the body.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
13 Feb 2005 12:58:59 PM |
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desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile) wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:01:05 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
One of the more bizarre twists of the Michael Jackson child
prostitution case -- which seems to be the best label for what is
alleged to have gone on -- is that one of the fairly young boys is
claiming that Michael Jackson was able to cure him of cancer.
Michael Jackson is Jesus! This used to be a secret, but now it has
been revealed. Praise God!
The ironic thing is, he may very well be right. A positive mental
attitude does wonders for one's overall medical condition, and
that's beyound any reasonable dispute. Living at Jackson's fun
house was something that
kept the kid happy and cheerful, something that would probably come
out
in court if it ever makes it to a full trial sice the defense will be
noting that none of the boys were ever apparently unhappy with
whatever went on there.
Laughter *MIGHT* be an anti-carcinogen but I kind of doubt it.
Malignant cells don't really care what is going on in the rest of
the body.
There is no evidence to support laughter or a positive mental attitude being
of any effect at all.
You might indeed feel better but the cancer will still kill you.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
13 Feb 2005 09:06:54 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile) wrote:
Laughter *MIGHT* be an anti-carcinogen but I kind of doubt it.
Malignant cells don't really care what is going on in the rest of
the body.
There is no evidence to support laughter or a positive mental attitude being
of any effect at all. You might indeed feel better but the cancer will still
kill you.
I'd expect that a positive mental attitude doesn't affect cancerous
cells directly. I'd expect that secondary complications caused by
depressed defeated attitudes don't happen. Cancer treatments of
real medical science seem to be a hit-or-miss type of thing, and it
seems to me that a lot of the recessions are accompanied by a positive
mental attitude.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
13 Feb 2005 02:12:01 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:01:05 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
The ironic thing is, he may very well be right. A positive mental attitude
does wonders for one's overall medical condition, and that's beyound any
reasonable dispute. Living at Jackson's fun house was something that
kept the kid happy and cheerful, something that would probably come out
in court if it ever makes it to a full trial sice the defense will be
noting that none of the boys were ever apparently unhappy with whatever
went on there.
Raping a child who's happy about being raped is still rape. Children
aren't allowed to decide if they want sex.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
13 Feb 2005 02:55:40 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:12:01 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:01:05 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
The ironic thing is, he may very well be right. A positive mental attitude
does wonders for one's overall medical condition, and that's beyound any
reasonable dispute. Living at Jackson's fun house was something that
kept the kid happy and cheerful, something that would probably come out
in court if it ever makes it to a full trial sice the defense will be
noting that none of the boys were ever apparently unhappy with whatever
went on there.
Raping a child who's happy about being raped is still rape. Children
aren't allowed to decide if they want sex.
Erm, "cannot legally consent to sex," might be a better choice of
words.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
13 Feb 2005 01:05:15 PM |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:55:40 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> said in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:12:01 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Raping a child who's happy about being raped is still rape. Children
aren't allowed to decide if they want sex.
Erm, "cannot legally consent to sex," might be a better choice of
words.
I had a brain freeze. Those are the words I wanted. Thank you.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
13 Feb 2005 09:09:00 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:55:40 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> said in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:12:01 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Raping a child who's happy about being raped is still rape. Children
aren't allowed to decide if they want sex.
Erm, "cannot legally consent to sex," might be a better choice of words.
I had a brain freeze. Those are the words I wanted. Thank you.
I have to object to the notion that the boys were raped -- unless the
allegations of narcotics and alcohol were true. Let's see what my
horrible Christian dictionary says the contemporary usage is.
rape -- The crime of forcing another person to submit to
sex acts, especially sexual intercourse. 2. The act of
seizing and carrying off by force; abduction. 3. Abusive
or improper treatment; violation.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
13 Feb 2005 09:34:36 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:09:00 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:55:40 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> said in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:12:01 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Raping a child who's happy about being raped is still rape. Children
aren't allowed to decide if they want sex.
Erm, "cannot legally consent to sex," might be a better choice of words.
I had a brain freeze. Those are the words I wanted. Thank you.
I have to object to the notion that the boys were raped -- unless the
allegations of narcotics and alcohol were true. Let's see what my
horrible Christian dictionary says the contemporary usage is.
rape -- The crime of forcing another person to submit to
sex acts, especially sexual intercourse. 2. The act of
seizing and carrying off by force; abduction. 3. Abusive
or improper treatment; violation.
Statutory rape - Sexual relations with a person who has not reached
the statutory age of consent.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
14 Feb 2005 09:47:06 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:09:00 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
I have to object to the notion that the boys were raped -- unless the
allegations of narcotics and alcohol were true. Let's see what my
horrible Christian dictionary says the contemporary usage is.
rape -- The crime of forcing another person to submit to
sex acts, especially sexual intercourse. 2. The act of
seizing and carrying off by force; abduction. 3. Abusive
or improper treatment; violation.
Statutory rape - Sexual relations with a person who has not reached
the statutory age of consent.
Right except that there's exceptions to that. The State of Texas will
allow parents to decide whether their children should be allowed to
get married -- one of the reasons why the "David Koresh" was able to
rape children without breaking the law.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
14 Feb 2005 10:26:20 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:47:06 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:09:00 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
I have to object to the notion that the boys were raped -- unless the
allegations of narcotics and alcohol were true. Let's see what my
horrible Christian dictionary says the contemporary usage is.
rape -- The crime of forcing another person to submit to
sex acts, especially sexual intercourse. 2. The act of
seizing and carrying off by force; abduction. 3. Abusive
or improper treatment; violation.
Statutory rape - Sexual relations with a person who has not reached
the statutory age of consent.
Right except that there's exceptions to that. The State of Texas will
allow parents to decide whether their children should be allowed to
get married
What's the youngest age at which that applies? The legal age of
consent in Texas is 17.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
15 Feb 2005 08:51:54 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:47:06 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 03:09:00 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
I have to object to the notion that the boys were raped -- unless the
allegations of narcotics and alcohol were true. Let's see what my
horrible Christian dictionary says the contemporary usage is.
rape -- The crime of forcing another person to submit to
sex acts, especially sexual intercourse. 2. The act of
seizing and carrying off by force; abduction. 3. Abusive
or improper treatment; violation.
Statutory rape - Sexual relations with a person who has not reached
the statutory age of consent.
Right except that there's exceptions to that. The State of Texas will
allow parents to decide whether their children should be allowed to
get married
What's the youngest age at which that applies? The legal age of
consent in Texas is 17.
That's without a parental permission. Vernon "David Koresh" Howe was
"marrying" them from age 8 upward.
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| User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
15 Feb 2005 10:33:00 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:26:20 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:47:06 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:
Right except that there's exceptions to that. The State of Texas will
allow parents to decide whether their children should be allowed to
get married
What's the youngest age at which that applies? The legal age of
consent in Texas is 17.
In Colorado, if I recall correctly, the age of consent is 16
years. In Utah it is 16 months.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Jackson cures boy's cancer |
15 Feb 2005 04:12:45 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:33:00 GMT, desertphile@hot mail. com
(Desertphile, American Patriot) said in alt.atheism:
In Colorado, if I recall correctly, the age of consent is 16
years. In Utah it is 16 months.
In Colorado it's 15 for a girl, 17 for a boy; in Utah it's 16 for a
boy, 18 for a girl. (I take it you were at least half joking about
Utah.)
The youngest is Iowa, with 14 for a boy and 16 for a girl. (Similar
legislation is pending in S. Carolina.)
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conviction."
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