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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Gactimus" |
| Date: |
20 Jan 2005 09:27:17 AM |
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Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
It looks like Spike Lee was right. Mr. Michael "Bowling for Columbine"
Moore's bodyguards do carry guns,
"Filmmaker Michael Moore's bodyguard was arrested for carrying an unlicensed
weapon in New York's JFK airport Wednesday night."
Well, well, well, could a man who believes that you don't have the "right to
bear arms" actually have a gun packing bodyguard protecting him? I guess as
far as Moore is concerned, there's one standard for all of us peons and
another standard for VILs (very important liberals) like himself.
Sure, Moore may think that "ordinary people" -- like YOU -- can't be trusted
to have a gun to defend your families. It's just too risky. Oh, but if
Michael Moore might be in danger, well that's a different matter all
together; he's special, you see, the rules that he wants to apply to the
"little people" shouldn't apply to him.
What a hypocrite.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
23 Jan 2005 11:40:58 AM |
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In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of what's there. A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and used by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is violating the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my driveway, on my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I am the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is illegal to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Your irrational fears don't govern my possession of property.
No, the law does. If you don't like the laws here you're free to move
to a country that allows you to keep whatever arms you like, but in
the US your right to own firearms is limited.
Obviously not as much as you would it to be.
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
23 Jan 2005 02:39:27 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120050940583410%spam@aol.com...
In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of what's there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and used by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is violating the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my driveway, on my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I am the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is illegal to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
23 Jan 2005 03:02:41 PM |
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In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120050940583410%spam@aol.com...
In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of what's there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and used by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is violating the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my driveway, on my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I am the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is illegal to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
23 Jan 2005 04:09:45 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051302413943%spam@aol.com...
In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120050940583410%spam@aol.com...
In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and used by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is violating the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my driveway, on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I am the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is illegal to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted. Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws he
knows.
Looks like there are no such laws based on your presentation here.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
23 Jan 2005 04:21:29 PM |
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In article <K8mdndy9lvUwvWncRVn-gA@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051302413943%spam@aol.com...
In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120050940583410%spam@aol.com...
In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and used by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is violating the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my driveway, on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I am the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is illegal to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted. Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws he
knows.
I don't intend to dig through local laws trying to prove what I already
know to be true. You do it yourself.
Looks like there are no such laws based on your presentation here.
Looks like you believe whatever you choose to believe.
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
23 Jan 2005 04:54:58 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051421297621%spam@aol.com...
In article <K8mdndy9lvUwvWncRVn-gA@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051302413943%spam@aol.com...
In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120050940583410%spam@aol.com...
In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and used
by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is violating
the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my driveway,
on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I am
the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is illegal
to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted. Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws he
knows.
I don't intend to dig through local laws trying to prove what I already
know to be true. You do it yourself.
A police officer/lawyer who can't find the statute.
You weren't a very good police officer were you? Probably why you have tried
switching over to being a lawyer. Tell me do your clients know you can't
find the statutes you assert exist?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
23 Jan 2005 05:36:51 PM |
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"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:KLWdnSbh9K7atmncRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051421297621%spam@aol.com...
In article <K8mdndy9lvUwvWncRVn-gA@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051302413943%spam@aol.com...
In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120050940583410%spam@aol.com...
In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and
used by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is violating
the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my driveway,
on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I am
the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is illegal
to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted. Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws he
knows.
I don't intend to dig through local laws trying to prove what I already
know to be true. You do it yourself.
A police officer/lawyer who can't find the statute.
You weren't a very good police officer were you? Probably why you have
tried switching over to being a lawyer. Tell me do your clients know you
can't find the statutes you assert exist?
That is why so many others have come to the conclusion he was never a police
officer.
There was a real police officer that came in here once, a state trooper with
more than 15 years on the force...read just ONE of his post and said he was
never a police officer.
A very good friend of mine, and one of my instructors, both lawyers..one
works with the AG, another was a prosecuting attorney in PA..both said after
just reading a few of his post, he is not a lawyer. Major reason why they
said that? Because of his immature statements. That was the primary
reason, not to mention a few things about law that he had said that were
completely wrong.
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
24 Jan 2005 10:53:41 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:GuKdnYlPwf_nqWncRVn-qg@comcast.com...
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:KLWdnSbh9K7atmncRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051421297621%spam@aol.com...
In article <K8mdndy9lvUwvWncRVn-gA@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051302413943%spam@aol.com...
In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120050940583410%spam@aol.com...
In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot
you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and
used by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is
violating the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my driveway,
on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I am
the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is
illegal to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted. Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws he
knows.
I don't intend to dig through local laws trying to prove what I already
know to be true. You do it yourself.
A police officer/lawyer who can't find the statute.
You weren't a very good police officer were you? Probably why you have
tried switching over to being a lawyer. Tell me do your clients know you
can't find the statutes you assert exist?
That is why so many others have come to the conclusion he was never a
police officer.
There was a real police officer that came in here once, a state trooper
with more than 15 years on the force...read just ONE of his post and said
he was never a police officer.
A very good friend of mine, and one of my instructors, both lawyers..one
works with the AG, another was a prosecuting attorney in PA..both said
after just reading a few of his post, he is not a lawyer. Major reason
why they said that? Because of his immature statements. That was the
primary reason, not to mention a few things about law that he had said
that were completely wrong.
Yea, because I know of no jurisdiction which makes it a crime to leave keys
in a car.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
23 Jan 2005 09:36:12 PM |
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In article <GuKdnYlPwf_nqWncRVn-qg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:KLWdnSbh9K7atmncRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051421297621%spam@aol.com...
In article <K8mdndy9lvUwvWncRVn-gA@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051302413943%spam@aol.com...
In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120050940583410%spam@aol.com...
In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and
used by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is violating
the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my driveway,
on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I am
the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is illegal
to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted. Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws he
knows.
I don't intend to dig through local laws trying to prove what I already
know to be true. You do it yourself.
A police officer/lawyer who can't find the statute.
You weren't a very good police officer were you? Probably why you have
tried switching over to being a lawyer. Tell me do your clients know you
can't find the statutes you assert exist?
That is why so many others have come to the conclusion he was never a police
officer.
I defy you to name ONE person who has "concluded" that, you lying
horses *****.
There was a real police officer that came in here once, a state trooper with
more than 15 years on the force...read just ONE of his post and said he was
never a police officer.
LOL! Osprey actually thinks that even if that were true, which it
probably is not, that would mean something. As though some State
Trooper could look at something someone wrote and decide whether that
person was a police office.
A very good friend of mine, and one of my instructors, both lawyers..one
works with the AG, another was a prosecuting attorney in PA..both said after
just reading a few of his post, he is not a lawyer.
Look, you gutless little coward, you know nothing about lawyers.
Furthermore, I doubt a lawyer would ever associate with the likes of
you.
Major reason why they
said that? Because of his immature statements.
So your "lawyer friend" thinks lawyers are all mature. Some lawyer.
That was the primary
reason, not to mention a few things about law that he had said that were
completely wrong.
And that Osprey can't seem to replicate.
Osprey, you envy me because I was what you always wanted to be but were
denied, a police officer. I am someone you look up to, a lawyer. I
understand that. So does everyone else.
So why don't you get off that big fat ***** of yours and become a police
officer or lawyer? Have you so little ambition you can't follow your
dreams? Are you that much of a loser?
Being a police officer is EASY. APPLY.
As for being a lawyer, I love it, but I certain don't think it makes me
a person worth being envied, especially the way you seem to envy
lawyers. There are people here on this newsgroup who I feel are far
more deserving of the envy you show to lawyers than most lawyers I
know. I chop you up with a meat cleaver compared to Ray's stiletto
type carving of you, for instance. That is why you are afraid of Ray,
and James, and I.
So you go ahead. Keep kissing my *****. It does you no good.
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
24 Jan 2005 10:56:31 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051936122025%spam@aol.com...
In article <GuKdnYlPwf_nqWncRVn-qg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <K8mdndy9lvUwvWncRVn-gA@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in
alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of
what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot
you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and
used by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is
violating
the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my
driveway,
on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I
am
the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is
illegal
to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted.
Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws
he
knows.
I don't intend to dig through local laws trying to prove what I
already
know to be true. You do it yourself.
A police officer/lawyer who can't find the statute.
You weren't a very good police officer were you? Probably why you have
tried switching over to being a lawyer. Tell me do your clients know
you
can't find the statutes you assert exist?
That is why so many others have come to the conclusion he was never a
police
officer.
I defy you to name ONE person who has "concluded" that, you lying
horses *****.
There was a real police officer that came in here once, a state trooper
with
more than 15 years on the force...read just ONE of his post and said he
was
never a police officer.
LOL! Osprey actually thinks that even if that were true, which it
probably is not, that would mean something. As though some State
Trooper could look at something someone wrote and decide whether that
person was a police office.
A very good friend of mine, and one of my instructors, both lawyers..one
works with the AG, another was a prosecuting attorney in PA..both said
after
just reading a few of his post, he is not a lawyer.
Look, you gutless little coward, you know nothing about lawyers.
Furthermore, I doubt a lawyer would ever associate with the likes of
you.
Major reason why they
said that? Because of his immature statements.
So your "lawyer friend" thinks lawyers are all mature. Some lawyer.
That was the primary
reason, not to mention a few things about law that he had said that were
completely wrong.
And that Osprey can't seem to replicate.
Osprey, you envy me because I was what you always wanted to be but were
denied, a police officer. I am someone you look up to, a lawyer. I
understand that. So does everyone else.
So why don't you get off that big fat ***** of yours and become a police
officer or lawyer? Have you so little ambition you can't follow your
dreams? Are you that much of a loser?
Being a police officer is EASY. APPLY.
As for being a lawyer, I love it, but I certain don't think it makes me
a person worth being envied, especially the way you seem to envy
lawyers. There are people here on this newsgroup who I feel are far
more deserving of the envy you show to lawyers than most lawyers I
know. I chop you up with a meat cleaver compared to Ray's stiletto
type carving of you, for instance. That is why you are afraid of Ray,
and James, and I.
So you go ahead. Keep kissing my *****. It does you no good.
Mighty defensive there Dav, and he does have a point. A police officer or a
lawyer are usually well able to cite the specific statute when they refer to
the law. It is after all a REQUIREMENT of their job to know the law and the
statute numbers for such offenses. Yep, despite the fact that you are
suppose to be well up on the law, you can't provide me with even a single
statute that supports your contention that it is illegal to leave your keys
in the car.
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23 Jan 2005 04:59:47 PM |
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In article <KLWdnSbh9K7atmncRVn-qQ@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <K8mdndy9lvUwvWncRVn-gA@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and used
by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is violating
the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my driveway,
on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I am
the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is illegal
to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted. Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws he
knows.
I don't intend to dig through local laws trying to prove what I already
know to be true. You do it yourself.
A police officer/lawyer who can't find the statute.
Reading comprehension isn't real big with you, is it? I never said I
can't find it.
You weren't a very good police officer were you?
Decorated twice - once for valor.
Probably why you have tried
switching over to being a lawyer.
I didn't "try," I did it.
Tell me do your clients know you can't
find the statutes you assert exist?
Reading comprehension problems for you again.
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23 Jan 2005 08:04:06 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <KLWdnSbh9K7atmncRVn-qQ@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <K8mdndy9lvUwvWncRVn-gA@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in
alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of
what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot
you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and
used
by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is
violating
the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my
driveway,
on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I
am
the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is
illegal
to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted.
Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws he
knows.
I don't intend to dig through local laws trying to prove what I already
know to be true. You do it yourself.
A police officer/lawyer who can't find the statute.
Reading comprehension isn't real big with you, is it? I never said I
can't find it.
As a police officer/lawyer, you shouldn't have to find it if you know it. It
is after all a requirement of your job to KNOW the law, yet you can't even
tell me the statute number.
So let me ask, can you even tell me the state in which this statute exists?
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23 Jan 2005 10:32:45 PM |
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In article <tcidncGAzpcHymncRVn-qQ@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051459475528%spam@aol.com...
In article <KLWdnSbh9K7atmncRVn-qQ@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051421297621%spam@aol.com...
In article <K8mdndy9lvUwvWncRVn-gA@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051302413943%spam@aol.com...
In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in
alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of
what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to shoot
you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen and
used
by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is
violating
the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my
driveway,
on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that I
am
the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is
illegal
to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted.
Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws he
knows.
I don't intend to dig through local laws trying to prove what I already
know to be true. You do it yourself.
A police officer/lawyer who can't find the statute.
Reading comprehension isn't real big with you, is it? I never said I
can't find it.
As a police officer/lawyer, you shouldn't have to find it if you know it. It
is after all a requirement of your job to KNOW the law, yet you can't even
tell me the statute number.
You idiot. Do your REALLY think lawyers have statutes memorized? ROFL!
So let me ask, can you even tell me the state in which this statute exists?
Minnesota, for one.
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24 Jan 2005 03:34:36 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <tcidncGAzpcHymncRVn-qQ@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051459475528%spam@aol.com...
In article <KLWdnSbh9K7atmncRVn-qQ@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051421297621%spam@aol.com...
In article <K8mdndy9lvUwvWncRVn-gA@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120051302413943%spam@aol.com...
In article <jdOdnbASctYelmncRVn-ow@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:230120050940583410%spam@aol.com...
In article <e7OdnYjzePs6Qm7cRVn-pQ@comcast.com>, The Sandman
<rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:34:03 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in
alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:tku5v0lldoum8h1615dvdulifeujdrdhf2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:18:20 -0500, "Scout"
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On the contrary, removal of anything is a reduction of
what's
there.
A gun
complete is worth considerably more than a gun which is
incomplete.
DO try to get your priorities straight. You right to own
an
automatic
weapon doesn't outweigh my right to not get shot.
No, it doesn't, and if I ever shoot you or threaten to
shoot
you
Or keep your weapon in such manner that it can be stolen
and
used
by
someone who would ...
If it is in my locked house then anyone who steals it is
violating
the
law. If, for example, I leave my keys in my car, in my
driveway,
on
my
private property, it does not mean that if it is stolen that
I
am
the
criminal.
In some states it means exactly that. In many states it is
illegal
to
leave the keys to your car in the car.
Please list the statutes here.
Certainly I'm not aware of any such laws.
I am.
Inability to support your assertion by citing the laws is noted.
Rather
strange for a police officer/lawyer not to be able to find the laws
he
knows.
I don't intend to dig through local laws trying to prove what I
already
know to be true. You do it yourself.
A police officer/lawyer who can't find the statute.
Reading comprehension isn't real big with you, is it? I never said I
can't find it.
As a police officer/lawyer, you shouldn't have to find it if you know it.
It
is after all a requirement of your job to KNOW the law, yet you can't
even
tell me the statute number.
You idiot. Do your REALLY think lawyers have statutes memorized? ROFL!
Well they certainly would to the point of being able to find a law they knew
about without any effort at all.
So let me ask, can you even tell me the state in which this statute
exists?
Minnesota, for one.
A search of the Minnesota statutes for the work "key" results in 44 hits.
NONE of which have to do with criminalizing the leaving of keys in a motor
vehicle.
Nor is there anything in Chapters 609-624 which the section dealing with
crimes and criminals.
Looks like you struck out on that assertion.
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24 Jan 2005 05:19:13 PM |
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Scout wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <tcidncGAzpcHymncRVn-qQ@adelphia.com>, Scout
<4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
So let me ask, can you even tell me the state in which this statute
exists?
Minnesota, for one.
A search of the Minnesota statutes for the work "key" results in 44 hits.
NONE of which have to do with criminalizing the leaving of keys in a motor
vehicle.
Nor is there anything in Chapters 609-624 which the section dealing with
crimes and criminals.
Looks like you struck out on that assertion.
I'm positive, however, that he will quickly respond with the actual
statute and cite for us.........ROFLMAO!!!! Sorry..... ;)
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Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)
http://home.comcast.net/~rdsandman
School - Four walls with tomorrow inside.
"The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to
impose decisions on others without paying any price themselves."
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who
pay no price for being wrong" Author Thomas Sowell
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24 Jan 2005 01:29:48 AM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:32:45 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
You idiot. Do your REALLY think lawyers have statutes memorized? ROFL!
Of course. All those books of statutes are for show. :)
--
"I can't activate two neurons simultaneously, and I vote"
- The theistic majority
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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24 Jan 2005 11:13:30 AM |
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Al Klein admits:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:32:45 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
You idiot. Do you REALLY think lawyers have statutes memorized? ROFL!
Of course. All those books of statutes are for show. :)
"I can't activate two neurons simultaneously, and I vote"
Sounds like you.
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:13:30 -0500, AH#49 writes <GRONK@BCComics.net>
said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein admits:
"I can't activate two neurons simultaneously, and I vote"
Sounds like you.
Flaming a randomly-generated sig? No, not at all like me.
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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24 Jan 2005 04:50:38 PM |
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In article <2juav0152elsni4gkiqjddeg5jbirm0afp@4ax.com> Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:13:30 -0500, AH#49 writes <GRONK@BCComics.net>
said in alt.atheism:
Al Klein admits:
"I can't activate two neurons simultaneously, and I vote"
Sounds like you.
Flaming a randomly-generated sig? No, not at all like me.
No, no, no, no, no; I'm positive he meant it sounds clever, pithy, and
intelligent, just like you.
Right, "GRONK"?
-- cary
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24 Jan 2005 07:11:06 AM |
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In article <ku89v0pls1oqkhuluvdqesldeh626ib4r3@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:32:45 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
You idiot. Do your REALLY think lawyers have statutes memorized? ROFL!
Of course. All those books of statutes are for show. :)
As I have often told law students, if a lawyer were to work strictly
from memory, THAT would be malpractice. But it never fails to amaze me
how people will expect us to know every law out there with precision.
The truth is, because the laws are SO specific, and we are in the job
of arguing so many very specific issues, we look up laws that we are
familiar with every day. Cases nearly always hinge on one exact phrase
and what that means.
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| User: "Scout" |
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24 Jan 2005 03:35:46 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <ku89v0pls1oqkhuluvdqesldeh626ib4r3@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:32:45 -0800, "David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com>
said in alt.atheism:
You idiot. Do your REALLY think lawyers have statutes memorized? ROFL!
Of course. All those books of statutes are for show. :)
As I have often told law students, if a lawyer were to work strictly
from memory, THAT would be malpractice. But it never fails to amaze me
how people will expect us to know every law out there with precision.
The truth is, because the laws are SO specific, and we are in the job
of arguing so many very specific issues, we look up laws that we are
familiar with every day.
And yet, you can't seem to do so in this case. After all, it's something you
do every day, but you can't produce even a single statute supporting your
assertion.
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