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"Gactimus" |
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20 Jan 2005 09:27:17 AM |
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Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
It looks like Spike Lee was right. Mr. Michael "Bowling for Columbine"
Moore's bodyguards do carry guns,
"Filmmaker Michael Moore's bodyguard was arrested for carrying an unlicensed
weapon in New York's JFK airport Wednesday night."
Well, well, well, could a man who believes that you don't have the "right to
bear arms" actually have a gun packing bodyguard protecting him? I guess as
far as Moore is concerned, there's one standard for all of us peons and
another standard for VILs (very important liberals) like himself.
Sure, Moore may think that "ordinary people" -- like YOU -- can't be trusted
to have a gun to defend your families. It's just too risky. Oh, but if
Michael Moore might be in danger, well that's a different matter all
together; he's special, you see, the rules that he wants to apply to the
"little people" shouldn't apply to him.
What a hypocrite.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
04 Feb 2005 10:09:07 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
D J <djaymix@gignew.com> wrote:
JTEM wrote:
Al Gore wasn't challenging
Democrats lost that election and needed to move on.
"Screw Democracy!"
Democracy is also following the rules.
Such as the US Constitution which says that states, and not the
federal government, get to decide how they conduct their elections.
The US Constitution also states that the rules for conducting elections
can't be changed during an election.
Where does it say that?
We know that you neocons like to rewrite the rules to benefit your
candidates. You don't really care about democracy.
Equal protection is a *****, isn't it Ray?
What "equal protection"?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "RD The Sandman" |
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03 Feb 2005 10:42:35 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
Yea, except the counties he was asking for a
recount in he didn't win or lose by 1/4 or less
of a percentage of the ballots cast there.
That's irrelevant.
You win the state, not a county. As there were about
60,000 uncounted ballots in those counties alone,
and they impacted upon a state-wide race, they had
to be counted.... as provided by Florida state law &
ordered by the Florida court.
They were recounted by machine (which complies with the statutes) and
were being recounted by hand when one of the counties stated that they
did not have enough time to finish before the time expired per the statutes.
One other thing that keeps getting lost in this is that the butterfly
ballot was designed by Democratic precinct folk and posted in the paper
several times for comment and familiarity prior to the election.
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Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)
http://home.comcast.net/~rdsandman
School - Four walls with tomorrow inside.
"The fatal attraction of government is that it allows busybodies to
impose decisions on others without paying any price themselves."
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who
pay no price for being wrong" Author Thomas Sowell
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| User: "JTEM" |
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03 Feb 2005 01:09:29 PM |
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"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote
They were recounted by machine
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
We are talking about undervotes here, as much as you
need to pretend otherwise.
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
03 Feb 2005 07:00:45 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman@comcast.net> wrote
They were recounted by machine
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
Trying to pad the election so your man can win?
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| User: "JTEM" |
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04 Feb 2005 08:58:11 AM |
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"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
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| User: "Scout" |
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04 Feb 2005 05:22:14 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Seems the law doesn't mean much to you.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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04 Feb 2005 10:10:25 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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05 Feb 2005 04:18:20 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
Attempt to divert attention is noted, as well as your inability to refute my
point.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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05 Feb 2005 02:00:12 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did. Despite your perverse need to subvert democracy.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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05 Feb 2005 08:02:12 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Then you admit at the end of the 11th day at 5pm when those counties had not
registered their results the results of those counties which were 90%+ in
favor of Gore shall be ignored. Given the number of ballots rejected by the
law, then Gore lost by a considerable number.
Here is the law you assert that Gore followed.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
(1) The county canvassing board or a majority thereof shall file the county
returns for the election of a federal or state officer with the Department
of State immediately after certification of the election results.
(2) Returns must be filed by 5 p.m. on the 7th day following a primary
election and by 5 p.m. on the 11th day following the general election.
(3) If the returns are not received by the department by the time
specified, such returns shall be ignored and the results on file at that
time shall be certified by the department.
(4) If the returns are not received by the department due to an emergency,
as defined in s. 101.732, the Elections Canvassing Commission shall
determine the deadline by which the returns must be received.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Feb 2005 12:00:17 AM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
Then you admit at the end of the 11th day at 5pm when those counties had not
Again you lie about what I write.
It's a habit with you.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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06 Feb 2005 07:06:51 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
(1) The county canvassing board or a majority thereof shall file the county
returns for the election of a federal or state officer with the Department
of State immediately after certification of the election results.
(2) Returns must be filed by 5 p.m. on the 7th day following a primary
election and by 5 p.m. on the 11th day following the general election.
(3) If the returns are not received by the department by the time
specified, such returns shall be ignored and the results on file at that
time shall be certified by the department.
(4) If the returns are not received by the department due to an emergency,
as defined in s. 101.732, the Elections Canvassing Commission shall
determine the deadline by which the returns must be received.
What part of "shall be ignored" did Gore comply with?
Then you admit at the end of the 11th day at 5pm when those counties had
not
Again you lie about what I write.
No, you said he complied with the law. That IS the law. Either he complied
or you're wrong about him.
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06 Feb 2005 01:35:07 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Then you admit at the end of the 11th day at 5pm when those counties had
not
Again you lie about what I write.
No,
Stop lying.
you said he complied with the law. That IS the law.
And you failed to show any violation of the law.
All you do is repeat your lies.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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06 Feb 2005 03:30:33 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Then you admit at the end of the 11th day at 5pm when those counties had
not
Again you lie about what I write.
No,
Stop lying.
you said he complied with the law. That IS the law.
And you failed to show any violation of the law.
I showed you the violation which you snipped. I showed you before that and
which you snipped. I'll show you again, and I bet you will snip it again
because it's a law which Gore did NOT comply with.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
(1) The county canvassing board or a majority thereof shall file the county
returns for the election of a federal or state officer with the Department
of State immediately after certification of the election results.
(2) Returns must be filed by 5 p.m. on the 7th day following a primary
election and by 5 p.m. on the 11th day following the general election.
(3) If the returns are not received by the department by the time
specified, such returns shall be ignored and the results on file at that
time shall be certified by the department.
(4) If the returns are not received by the department due to an emergency,
as defined in s. 101.732, the Elections Canvassing Commission shall
determine the deadline by which the returns must be received.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Feb 2005 04:45:09 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Did you "forget" to provide the support for your claim? Or shall I
take your failure to do so as an admisssion that you've been lying?
you said he complied with the law. That IS the law.
And you failed to show any violation of the law.
I showed you the violation which you snipped.
You're lying again, *****.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOUNTS, YOU DUMBSHIT *****!
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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06 Feb 2005 07:43:01 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Scout" <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote
By definition, an "undervote" was never counted.
Yep, why count a vote that wasn't cast?
By definition, and undervote was never counted.
You have no way of knowing WHY is wasn't counted
until you actually look at the ballot. That's why you
need a manual count.
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore
never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Did you "forget" to provide the support for your claim? Or shall I
take your failure to do so as an admisssion that you've been lying?
you said he complied with the law. That IS the law.
And you failed to show any violation of the law.
I showed you the violation which you snipped.
You're lying again, *****.
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
(1) The county canvassing board or a majority thereof shall file the
county
returns for the election of a federal or state officer with the Department
of State immediately after certification of the election results.
(2) Returns must be filed by 5 p.m. on the 7th day following a primary
election and by 5 p.m. on the 11th day following the general election.
(3) If the returns are not received by the department by the time
specified, such returns shall be ignored and the results on file at that
time shall be certified by the department.
(4) If the returns are not received by the department due to an
emergency,
as defined in s. 101.732, the Elections Canvassing Commission shall
determine the deadline by which the returns must be received.
What part of "shall be ignored" did Gore comply with?
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Then you admit at the end of the 11th day at 5pm when those counties had
not
Again you lie about what I write.
No,
Stop lying.
you said he complied with the law. That IS the law.
And you failed to show any violation of the law.
All you do is repeat your lies.
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I presented the law that Gore failed to comply with, and you snipped it, and
claimed it applied to submissions and not recounts. It does apply to
recounts. It states that results shall be certified by 5pm of the 11th day
or those returns "shall be ignored". Yet Gore was still counting long after
that time despite the law.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOUNTS, YOU DUMBSHIT *****!
It certainly does. It states that the returns shall be certified by 5pm of
the 11th day. PERIOD. Doesn't matter if there are recounts, rerecounts, test
counts, sample counts, manual counts, the returns shall be certified by that
time or they "shall be ignored".
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
06 Feb 2005 10:57:08 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore
never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Did you "forget" to provide the support for your claim? Or shall I
take your failure to do so as an admisssion that you've been lying?
I'll take that as a "yes".
[...]
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOUNTS, YOU DUMBSHIT *****!
It certainly does.
You're lying again. It clearly refers to submitting election returns
and does not deal with the process of recounts.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
07 Feb 2005 04:33:47 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore
never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a
recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department
of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Did you "forget" to provide the support for your claim? Or shall I
take your failure to do so as an admisssion that you've been lying?
I'll take that as a "yes".
[...]
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOUNTS, YOU DUMBSHIT *****!
It certainly does.
You're lying again. It clearly refers to submitting election returns
and does not deal with the process of recounts.
It is a law with which Gore did not comply which is what is being
established. On the 11th day at 5pm Gore lost if he complied with the law.
Oh, and that deadline does apply to recounts as well. That's what "Returns
must be filed by" means. Doesn't matter how you count them, recount them, or
how many times you count them. You have to file your returns within the time
period indicated or by law they "shall be ignored".
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
(1) The county canvassing board or a majority thereof shall file the county
returns for the election of a federal or state officer with the Department
of State immediately after certification of the election results.
(2) Returns must be filed by 5 p.m. on the 7th day following a primary
election and by 5 p.m. on the 11th day following the general election.
(3) If the returns are not received by the department by the time
specified, such returns shall be ignored and the results on file at that
time shall be certified by the department.
(4) If the returns are not received by the department due to an emergency,
as defined in s. 101.732, the Elections Canvassing Commission shall
determine the deadline by which the returns must be received.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
07 Feb 2005 09:22:57 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu6sf4$6fk$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore
never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a
recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department
of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Did you "forget" to provide the support for your claim? Or shall I
take your failure to do so as an admisssion that you've been lying?
I'll take that as a "yes".
[...]
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOUNTS, YOU DUMBSHIT *****!
It certainly does.
You're lying again. It clearly refers to submitting election returns
and does not deal with the process of recounts.
It is a law with which Gore did not comply which is what is being
established.
"Not" being established. You have failed to identifiy any such law.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
08 Feb 2005 04:04:57 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu6sf4$6fk$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore
never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a
recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department
of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Did you "forget" to provide the support for your claim? Or shall I
take your failure to do so as an admisssion that you've been lying?
I'll take that as a "yes".
[...]
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department
of
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOUNTS, YOU DUMBSHIT *****!
It certainly does.
You're lying again. It clearly refers to submitting election returns
and does not deal with the process of recounts.
It is a law with which Gore did not comply which is what is being
established.
"Not" being established. You have failed to identifiy any such law.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
State.--
(1) The county canvassing board or a majority thereof shall file the county
returns for the election of a federal or state officer with the Department
of State immediately after certification of the election results.
(2) Returns must be filed by 5 p.m. on the 7th day following a primary
election and by 5 p.m. on the 11th day following the general election.
(3) If the returns are not received by the department by the time
specified, such returns shall be ignored and the results on file at that
time shall be certified by the department.
(4) If the returns are not received by the department due to an emergency,
as defined in s. 101.732, the Elections Canvassing Commission shall
determine the deadline by which the returns must be received.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
08 Feb 2005 09:30:24 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu9bag$rcf$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu6sf4$6fk$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and Gore
never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a
recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department
of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Did you "forget" to provide the support for your claim? Or shall I
take your failure to do so as an admisssion that you've been lying?
I'll take that as a "yes".
[...]
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department
of
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOUNTS, YOU DUMBSHIT *****!
It certainly does.
You're lying again. It clearly refers to submitting election returns
and does not deal with the process of recounts.
It is a law with which Gore did not comply which is what is being
established.
"Not" being established. You have failed to identifiy any such law.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
And again you have failed to show how Gore failed to comply with any law.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
09 Feb 2005 05:01:08 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuc04g$ugf$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu9bag$rcf$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu6sf4$6fk$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and
Gore
never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a
recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the
Department
of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Did you "forget" to provide the support for your claim? Or shall I
take your failure to do so as an admisssion that you've been lying?
I'll take that as a "yes".
[...]
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department
of
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOUNTS, YOU DUMBSHIT *****!
It certainly does.
You're lying again. It clearly refers to submitting election returns
and does not deal with the process of recounts.
It is a law with which Gore did not comply which is what is being
established.
"Not" being established. You have failed to identifiy any such law.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
And again you have failed to show how Gore failed to comply with any law.
Ok, then let's explain how he failed to comply. Were the results in those 4
counties (90%+ Gore supporters) thrown out a 5pm on the 11th day because
those counties failed to certify their results as required by the law?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
09 Feb 2005 10:20:52 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuc04g$ugf$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu9bag$rcf$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu6sf4$6fk$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and
Gore
never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a
recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the
Department
of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Did you "forget" to provide the support for your claim? Or shall I
take your failure to do so as an admisssion that you've been lying?
I'll take that as a "yes".
[...]
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department
of
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOUNTS, YOU DUMBSHIT *****!
It certainly does.
You're lying again. It clearly refers to submitting election returns
and does not deal with the process of recounts.
It is a law with which Gore did not comply which is what is being
established.
"Not" being established. You have failed to identifiy any such law.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
And again you have failed to show how Gore failed to comply with any law.
Ok, then let's explain how he failed to comply. Were the results in those 4
counties (90%+ Gore supporters) thrown out a 5pm on the 11th day because
those counties failed to certify their results as required by the law?
I'll take your changing of he subject as your admission that you were
lying when you claimed Gore did not follow the law.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
10 Feb 2005 03:55:08 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuenf3$dq8$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuc04g$ugf$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu9bag$rcf$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu6sf4$6fk$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
Except that the law doesn't require a manual recount and
Gore
never
established legitimate cause for calling for such a
recount.
Gore didn't need to ask your approval before asking for a
recount.
But he does need to follow the law.
And he did.
He did?
Prove otherwise.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the
Department
of
State.--
That refers to submissions and not to recounts.
Did you "forget" to provide the support for your claim? Or shall
I
take your failure to do so as an admisssion that you've been
lying?
I'll take that as a "yes".
[...]
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the
Department
of
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOUNTS, YOU DUMBSHIT *****!
It certainly does.
You're lying again. It clearly refers to submitting election
returns
and does not deal with the process of recounts.
It is a law with which Gore did not comply which is what is being
established.
"Not" being established. You have failed to identifiy any such law.
102.112 Deadline for submission of county returns to the Department of
And again you have failed to show how Gore failed to comply with any
law.
Ok, then let's explain how he failed to comply. Were the results in those
4
counties (90%+ Gore supporters) thrown out a 5pm on the 11th day because
those counties failed to certify their results as required by the law?
I'll take your changing of he subject as your admission that you were
lying when you claimed Gore did not follow the law.
I accept your admission that Gore didn't follow the law by asserting that
I'm attempting to change the subject. The subject, which you have snipped
out for the last 6 messages has been and continues to be 102.112 which is a
law Gore failed to comply with.
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