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| User: |
"Gactimus" |
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20 Jan 2005 09:27:17 AM |
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Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
It looks like Spike Lee was right. Mr. Michael "Bowling for Columbine"
Moore's bodyguards do carry guns,
"Filmmaker Michael Moore's bodyguard was arrested for carrying an unlicensed
weapon in New York's JFK airport Wednesday night."
Well, well, well, could a man who believes that you don't have the "right to
bear arms" actually have a gun packing bodyguard protecting him? I guess as
far as Moore is concerned, there's one standard for all of us peons and
another standard for VILs (very important liberals) like himself.
Sure, Moore may think that "ordinary people" -- like YOU -- can't be trusted
to have a gun to defend your families. It's just too risky. Oh, but if
Michael Moore might be in danger, well that's a different matter all
together; he's special, you see, the rules that he wants to apply to the
"little people" shouldn't apply to him.
What a hypocrite.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
05 Feb 2005 02:00:55 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Florida election law says all the vote should
have been counted AS REQUESTED BY AL
GORE.
Wrong. Under Florida law Gore would have had to show CAUSE for such a
recount.
Florida law allowed candidates to request a per-county manual recount.
Only with cause.
Why are you neocons such lying fruitcakes? Why do you cling to
politics of hate and corruption?
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
Just as I stated. No "cause" needed.
Cite the specific statute that allows for a manual recount without cause.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
05 Feb 2005 08:05:39 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Florida election law says all the vote should
have been counted AS REQUESTED BY AL
GORE.
Wrong. Under Florida law Gore would have had to show CAUSE for such
a
recount.
Florida law allowed candidates to request a per-county manual
recount.
Only with cause.
Why are you neocons such lying fruitcakes? Why do you cling to
politics of hate and corruption?
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
Just as I stated. No "cause" needed.
Cite the specific statute that allows for a manual recount without cause.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
That is not a specific statute. Your inability to support your claim is
noted.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
06 Feb 2005 12:01:00 AM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Florida election law says all the vote should
have been counted AS REQUESTED BY AL
GORE.
Wrong. Under Florida law Gore would have had to show CAUSE for such
a
recount.
Florida law allowed candidates to request a per-county manual
recount.
Only with cause.
Why are you neocons such lying fruitcakes? Why do you cling to
politics of hate and corruption?
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
Just as I stated. No "cause" needed.
Cite the specific statute that allows for a manual recount without cause.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
That is not a specific statute.
Tough *****. You claim that Gore had to show cause. Quote the
specific paragraph.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
06 Feb 2005 07:08:21 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Florida election law says all the vote should
have been counted AS REQUESTED BY AL
GORE.
Wrong. Under Florida law Gore would have had to show CAUSE for
such
a
recount.
Florida law allowed candidates to request a per-county manual
recount.
Only with cause.
Why are you neocons such lying fruitcakes? Why do you cling to
politics of hate and corruption?
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
Just as I stated. No "cause" needed.
Cite the specific statute that allows for a manual recount without
cause.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
That is not a specific statute.
Tough *****. You claim that Gore had to show cause. Quote the
specific paragraph.
102.168 Contest of election.--
(1) Except as provided in s. 102.171, the certification of election or
nomination of any person to office, or of the result on any question
submitted by referendum, may be contested in the circuit court by any
unsuccessful candidate for such office or nomination thereto or by any
elector qualified to vote in the election related to such candidacy, or by
any taxpayer, respectively.
(2) Such contestant shall file a complaint, together with the fees
prescribed in chapter 28, with the clerk of the circuit court within 10 days
after midnight of the date the last county canvassing board empowered to
canvass the returns certifies the results of the election being contested.
(3) The complaint shall set forth the grounds on which the contestant
intends to establish his or her right to such office or set aside the result
of the election on a submitted referendum. The grounds for contesting an
election under this section are:
(a) Misconduct, fraud, or corruption on the part of any election official
or any member of the canvassing board sufficient to change or place in doubt
the result of the election.
(b) Ineligibility of the successful candidate for the nomination or office
in dispute.
(c) Receipt of a number of illegal votes or rejection of a number of legal
votes sufficient to change or place in doubt the result of the election.
(d) Proof that any elector, election official, or canvassing board member
was given or offered a bribe or reward in money, property, or any other
thing of value for the purpose of procuring the successful candidate's
nomination or election or determining the result on any question submitted
by referendum.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
06 Feb 2005 01:37:48 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Florida election law says all the vote should
have been counted AS REQUESTED BY AL
GORE.
Wrong. Under Florida law Gore would have had to show CAUSE for
such
a
recount.
Florida law allowed candidates to request a per-county manual
recount.
Only with cause.
Why are you neocons such lying fruitcakes? Why do you cling to
politics of hate and corruption?
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
Just as I stated. No "cause" needed.
Cite the specific statute that allows for a manual recount without
cause.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
That is not a specific statute.
Tough *****. You claim that Gore had to show cause. Quote the
specific paragraph.
102.168 Contest of election.--
(1) Except as provided in s. 102.171, the certification of election or
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to recounts.
Try again? Or are you going to find some new lie?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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06 Feb 2005 03:32:19 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Florida election law says all the vote should
have been counted AS REQUESTED BY AL
GORE.
Wrong. Under Florida law Gore would have had to show CAUSE for
such
a
recount.
Florida law allowed candidates to request a per-county manual
recount.
Only with cause.
Why are you neocons such lying fruitcakes? Why do you cling to
politics of hate and corruption?
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
Just as I stated. No "cause" needed.
Cite the specific statute that allows for a manual recount without
cause.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
That is not a specific statute.
Tough *****. You claim that Gore had to show cause. Quote the
specific paragraph.
102.168 Contest of election.--
(1) Except as provided in s. 102.171, the certification of election or
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
Is it your assertion that Gore wasn't contesting his loss? That he accepted
that he had lost? That the call for recounts had nothing to do with his
losing the election?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Feb 2005 04:47:06 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Florida election law says all the vote should
have been counted AS REQUESTED BY AL
GORE.
Wrong. Under Florida law Gore would have had to show CAUSE for
such
a
recount.
Florida law allowed candidates to request a per-county manual
recount.
Only with cause.
Why are you neocons such lying fruitcakes? Why do you cling to
politics of hate and corruption?
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
Just as I stated. No "cause" needed.
Cite the specific statute that allows for a manual recount without
cause.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
That is not a specific statute.
Tough *****. You claim that Gore had to show cause. Quote the
specific paragraph.
102.168 Contest of election.--
(1) Except as provided in s. 102.171, the certification of election or
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
The law you cited makes NO mention of any recounts. That should
have been a clue.
You claim that Gore needed to show cause to request recounts was,
and is, a LIE.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "David Lentz" |
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06 Feb 2005 05:28:30 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
<snip>
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Please disregard Mr. Fischer. He is off his medications.
David
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Feb 2005 05:35:35 PM |
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David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Please disregard Mr. Fischer. He is off his medications.
You're far to clever to be confused by mere facts.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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06 Feb 2005 07:46:09 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu5rmb$1q8$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Florida election law says all the vote should
have been counted AS REQUESTED BY AL
GORE.
Wrong. Under Florida law Gore would have had to show CAUSE for
such
a
recount.
Florida law allowed candidates to request a per-county manual
recount.
Only with cause.
Why are you neocons such lying fruitcakes? Why do you cling to
politics of hate and corruption?
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
Just as I stated. No "cause" needed.
Cite the specific statute that allows for a manual recount without
cause.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
That is not a specific statute.
Tough *****. You claim that Gore had to show cause. Quote the
specific paragraph.
102.168 Contest of election.--
(1) Except as provided in s. 102.171, the certification of election or
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the election?
That is done after the votes are tabulated and prior to the issuance of
certification for the election. It is because of such challenges that we
recount the votes because the losing party is saying that they have a reason
to show the results may not agree with the actual votes cast. You don't just
start conducting recounts because you decide to waste taxpayer money. You do
it because the results of the first count were challenged.
Now care to actually answer my question?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Feb 2005 10:58:42 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Florida election law says all the vote should
have been counted AS REQUESTED BY AL
GORE.
Wrong. Under Florida law Gore would have had to show CAUSE for
such
a
recount.
Florida law allowed candidates to request a per-county manual
recount.
Only with cause.
Why are you neocons such lying fruitcakes? Why do you cling to
politics of hate and corruption?
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
Just as I stated. No "cause" needed.
Cite the specific statute that allows for a manual recount without
cause.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
That is not a specific statute.
Tough *****. You claim that Gore had to show cause. Quote the
specific paragraph.
102.168 Contest of election.--
(1) Except as provided in s. 102.171, the certification of election or
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
That is done after the votes are tabulated and prior to the issuance of
certification for the election.
Wrong again, idiot. Contesting an election happens AFTER certification.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
07 Feb 2005 04:37:23 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Florida election law says all the vote should
have been counted AS REQUESTED BY AL
GORE.
Wrong. Under Florida law Gore would have had to show CAUSE
for
such
a
recount.
Florida law allowed candidates to request a per-county manual
recount.
Only with cause.
Why are you neocons such lying fruitcakes? Why do you cling
to
politics of hate and corruption?
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
Just as I stated. No "cause" needed.
Cite the specific statute that allows for a manual recount without
cause.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf
That is not a specific statute.
Tough *****. You claim that Gore had to show cause. Quote the
specific paragraph.
102.168 Contest of election.--
(1) Except as provided in s. 102.171, the certification of election
or
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the election.
Otherwise what's the point of the recount? Is he going to accept his loss
even if the recount shows him to be the winner? If he isn't contesting his
lose then why would he want to ask for a recount?
That is done after the votes are tabulated and prior to the issuance of
certification for the election.
Wrong again, idiot. Contesting an election happens AFTER certification.
Not in all cases, as Gore has indicated. You don't ask for a recount if
you're not contesting the results of the election.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
07 Feb 2005 09:24:11 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has been
certified and the winner declared.
That is done after the votes are tabulated and prior to the issuance of
certification for the election.
Wrong again, idiot. Contesting an election happens AFTER certification.
Not in all cases,
Stop lying.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
08 Feb 2005 04:05:55 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has been
certified and the winner declared.
Fine then there was no need to call for recounts because Gore couldn't know
that he had lost the election.
Anyway you want to slice it, Gore lost.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
08 Feb 2005 09:30:50 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has been
certified and the winner declared.
Fine then there was no need to call for recounts because Gore couldn't know
that he had lost the election.
Anyway you want to slice it, Gore lost.
Except that he got the most votes.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "David Lentz" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
09 Feb 2005 07:34:26 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to
recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the
election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has been
certified and the winner declared.
Fine then there was no need to call for recounts because Gore couldn't
know
that he had lost the election.
Anyway you want to slice it, Gore lost.
Except that he got the most votes.
Even if true, not relevant. The sad fact is that Albert Gore, Junior and
his team of legal beagles, utterly failed to prove that so much as a single
uncounted ballot existed. It utterly does not matter what existed in
fact. It only matters what Gore was able to establish in court. Gore's
team of beagles failed to establish anything significant.
If I were Gore, I'd consider suing David Boies for legal malpractice.
Gore case in Gore v. Harris was pathetic.
David
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
09 Feb 2005 10:21:42 PM |
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David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu9bcr$re5$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to
recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the
election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has been
certified and the winner declared.
Fine then there was no need to call for recounts because Gore couldn't
know
that he had lost the election.
Anyway you want to slice it, Gore lost.
Except that he got the most votes.
Even if true, not relevant.
Gotta love the way you right-wingers care so little about democracy.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "David Lentz" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
10 Feb 2005 04:59:24 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to
recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask
for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the
election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the
election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has
been
certified and the winner declared.
Fine then there was no need to call for recounts because Gore couldn't
know
that he had lost the election.
Anyway you want to slice it, Gore lost.
Except that he got the most votes.
Even if true, not relevant.
Gotta love the way you right-wingers care so little about democracy.
Don't lash out at conservatives because your putz from Tennesee hired an
incompetent team of lawyers. Abert Gore, Junior lost his case because his
team of legal beagle uttterly failed to make one. You can't win if you
don't show up, and Gore's lawyer failed show up with anything resembling
evidence.
David
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
10 Feb 2005 09:19:08 PM |
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David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuc059$uh8$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu9bcr$re5$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to
recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask
for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the
election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the
election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has
been
certified and the winner declared.
Fine then there was no need to call for recounts because Gore couldn't
know
that he had lost the election.
Anyway you want to slice it, Gore lost.
Except that he got the most votes.
Even if true, not relevant.
Gotta love the way you right-wingers care so little about democracy.
Don't lash out at conservatives because your putz from Tennesee hired an
All you do is repeat lies in order to excuse the fact that Gore got
more votes than Shrub.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
11 Feb 2005 04:05:44 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuengl$dsb$1@bolt.sonic.net...
David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuc059$uh8$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu9bcr$re5$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to
recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask
for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the
election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the
election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has
been
certified and the winner declared.
Fine then there was no need to call for recounts because Gore
couldn't
know
that he had lost the election.
Anyway you want to slice it, Gore lost.
Except that he got the most votes.
Even if true, not relevant.
Gotta love the way you right-wingers care so little about democracy.
Don't lash out at conservatives because your putz from Tennesee hired an
All you do is repeat lies in order to excuse the fact that Gore got
more votes than Shrub.
That's not what Florida State Election office says.
Bush = 2,912,790
Gore = 2,912,253
Those are the official and certified results.
Gore lost. Deal with it.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
11 Feb 2005 10:43:59 PM |
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu9bcr$re5$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to
recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask
for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the
election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the
election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has
been
certified and the winner declared.
Fine then there was no need to call for recounts because Gore
couldn't
know
that he had lost the election.
Anyway you want to slice it, Gore lost.
Except that he got the most votes.
Even if true, not relevant.
Gotta love the way you right-wingers care so little about democracy.
Don't lash out at conservatives because your putz from Tennesee hired an
All you do is repeat lies in order to excuse the fact that Gore got
more votes than Shrub.
That's not what Florida State Election office says.
That's part of the problem, *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Scout" |
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
12 Feb 2005 04:08:40 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cuengl$dsb$1@bolt.sonic.net...
David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:cu9bcr$re5$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to
recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you
ask
for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER
certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the
election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for
RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the
election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has
been
certified and the winner declared.
Fine then there was no need to call for recounts because Gore
couldn't
know
that he had lost the election.
Anyway you want to slice it, Gore lost.
Except that he got the most votes.
Even if true, not relevant.
Gotta love the way you right-wingers care so little about democracy.
Don't lash out at conservatives because your putz from Tennesee hired
an
All you do is repeat lies in order to excuse the fact that Gore got
more votes than Shrub.
That's not what Florida State Election office says.
That's part of the problem, *****.
No, it's the answer.
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| Title: Re: Michael Moore: Guns Are Okay For Me, But Not For You |
10 Feb 2005 09:50:43 PM |
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:19:08 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
news:cuengl$dsb$1@bolt.sonic.net...
David Lentz <dlentz10@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
news:cuc059$uh8$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
news:cu9bcr$re5$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" < > wrote in message
Scout <4guns@adelphia.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
This all pertains to contesting certification and not to
recounts.
If you're not contesting the election, then why would you ask
for
recounts???
You cannot contest a certification until AFTER certification,
and certification doesn't happen until AFTER the recounts.
Agreed. However, what does that have to do with contesting the
election?
Gore wan't contesting the election. He was asking for RECOUNTS.
Sorry, but asking for a recount requires him to contest the
election.
You're lying again. One contests an election after the vote has
been
certified and the winner declared.
Fine then there was no need to call for recounts because Gore couldn't
know
that he had lost the election.
Anyway you want to slice it, Gore lost.
Except that he got the most votes.
Even if true, not relevant.
Gotta love the way you right-wingers care so little about democracy.
Don't lash out at conservatives because your putz from Tennesee hired an
All you do is repeat lies in order to excuse the fact that Gore got
more votes than Shrub.
LOL "move on"
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