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User: "maff"
Date: 27 Jun 2004 05:47:53 AM
Object: Mind Reading
Mind Reading
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5304846/site/newsweek/
The new science of decision making. It's not as rational as you think
By Jerry Adler
Newsweek
July 5 issue - Flat on my back, my eyes shrouded with LED goggles and
my ears encased in headphones, I was trundled into the maw of an fMRI
machine in a basement lab at the California Institute of Technology.
The business end of an fMRI is a giant cylindrical magnet, similar to
the MRI machines doctors use to diagnose tumors, but with the added
ability to show changes in brain activity as they happen—hence the
"f," which stands for "functional." In the magnet's powerful field,
blood sloshing back and forth inside my head reveals its presence
control room next door are Steven Quartz, a Caltech neuroscientist,
and Colin Camerer, an economist, who are looking inside my brain to
help understand some of the most vexing problems in postmodern
society—irrational market bubbles, intractable Third World poverty and
loser brothers-in-law who want to borrow $5,000 to open a franchised
back-rub parlor. My brain was helping science explain why, despite
centuries of progress in economic theory since Adam Smith, actual
human beings so often refuse to behave as equations say they should.
Steven Quartz
http://news.google.com/news?q=%20%22Steven%20Quartz%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Steven+Quartz%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&tab=nw&sa=N
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Steven%20Quartz&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
Colin Camerer
http://news.google.com/news?q=%20%22Colin%20Camerer%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Colin+Camerer%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&tab=nw&sa=N
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Colin%20Camerer&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
A Blueprint for the Future
http://tinyurl.com/9vga
.

User: "Klaus Hellnick"

Title: Re: Mind Reading 27 Jun 2004 08:11:07 AM
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:18510aff.0406270250.1bb9160d@posting.google.com...

Mind Reading
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5304846/site/newsweek/

The new science of decision making. It's not as rational as you think

By Jerry Adler
Newsweek

July 5 issue - Flat on my back, my eyes shrouded with LED goggles and
my ears encased in headphones, I was trundled into the maw of an fMRI
machine in a basement lab at the California Institute of Technology.
The business end of an fMRI is a giant cylindrical magnet, similar to
the MRI machines doctors use to diagnose tumors, but with the added

I have had MRIs done before and they still make me nervous. I admit they are
very useful, but there is something about exposing my body to such intense
alternating magnetic fields that the electrons scream that I find
unsettling.
Klaus

ability to show changes in brain activity as they happen-hence the
"f," which stands for "functional." In the magnet's powerful field,
blood sloshing back and forth inside my head reveals its presence
control room next door are Steven Quartz, a Caltech neuroscientist,
and Colin Camerer, an economist, who are looking inside my brain to
help understand some of the most vexing problems in postmodern
society-irrational market bubbles, intractable Third World poverty and
loser brothers-in-law who want to borrow $5,000 to open a franchised
back-rub parlor. My brain was helping science explain why, despite
centuries of progress in economic theory since Adam Smith, actual
human beings so often refuse to behave as equations say they should.

Steven Quartz

http://news.google.com/news?q=%20%22Steven%20Quartz%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gn



http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Steven+Quartz%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&tab=nw&sa=N



http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Steven%20Quartz&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en


Colin Camerer

http://news.google.com/news?q=%20%22Colin%20Camerer%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gn



http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Colin+Camerer%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&tab=nw&sa=N



http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Colin%20Camerer&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en


A Blueprint for the Future
http://tinyurl.com/9vga

.
User: "Chris Thompson"

Title: Re: Mind Reading 27 Jun 2004 12:59:45 PM
"Klaus Hellnick" <khellnicknospam@houston.rr.com> wrote in
news:5KzDc.16462$w3.234@fe2.texas.rr.com:


"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:18510aff.0406270250.1bb9160d@posting.google.com...

Mind Reading
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5304846/site/newsweek/

The new science of decision making. It's not as rational as you think

By Jerry Adler
Newsweek

July 5 issue - Flat on my back, my eyes shrouded with LED goggles and
my ears encased in headphones, I was trundled into the maw of an fMRI
machine in a basement lab at the California Institute of Technology.
The business end of an fMRI is a giant cylindrical magnet, similar to
the MRI machines doctors use to diagnose tumors, but with the added


I have had MRIs done before and they still make me nervous. I admit
they are very useful, but there is something about exposing my body to
such intense alternating magnetic fields that the electrons scream
that I find unsettling.
Klaus

Try foil caps, Klaus. Should help immensely.
Chris
--
"We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and
then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so
as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry
on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that
sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually
on a battlefield." --George Orwell, 1946, "Under Your Nose"
.
User: "Klaus Hellnick"

Title: Re: Mind Reading 27 Jun 2004 06:02:36 PM
"Chris Thompson" <rockwallaby@TAKEOUTerols.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95158EC49C993rockwallabyerolscom@199.184.165.239...

"Klaus Hellnick" <khellnicknospam@houston.rr.com> wrote in
news:5KzDc.16462$w3.234@fe2.texas.rr.com:


"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:18510aff.0406270250.1bb9160d@posting.google.com...

Mind Reading
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5304846/site/newsweek/

The new science of decision making. It's not as rational as you think

By Jerry Adler
Newsweek

July 5 issue - Flat on my back, my eyes shrouded with LED goggles and
my ears encased in headphones, I was trundled into the maw of an fMRI
machine in a basement lab at the California Institute of Technology.
The business end of an fMRI is a giant cylindrical magnet, similar to
the MRI machines doctors use to diagnose tumors, but with the added


I have had MRIs done before and they still make me nervous. I admit
they are very useful, but there is something about exposing my body to
such intense alternating magnetic fields that the electrons scream
that I find unsettling.
Klaus


Try foil caps, Klaus. Should help immensely.

Chris

--
"We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and
then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so
as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry
on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that
sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually
on a battlefield." --George Orwell, 1946, "Under Your Nose"

.

User: "Klaus Hellnick"

Title: Re: Mind Reading 27 Jun 2004 06:05:11 PM
"Chris Thompson" <rockwallaby@TAKEOUTerols.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95158EC49C993rockwallabyerolscom@199.184.165.239...

"Klaus Hellnick" <khellnicknospam@houston.rr.com> wrote in
news:5KzDc.16462$w3.234@fe2.texas.rr.com:


"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:18510aff.0406270250.1bb9160d@posting.google.com...

Mind Reading
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5304846/site/newsweek/

The new science of decision making. It's not as rational as you think

By Jerry Adler
Newsweek

July 5 issue - Flat on my back, my eyes shrouded with LED goggles and
my ears encased in headphones, I was trundled into the maw of an fMRI
machine in a basement lab at the California Institute of Technology.
The business end of an fMRI is a giant cylindrical magnet, similar to
the MRI machines doctors use to diagnose tumors, but with the added


I have had MRIs done before and they still make me nervous. I admit
they are very useful, but there is something about exposing my body to
such intense alternating magnetic fields that the electrons scream
that I find unsettling.
Klaus


Try foil caps, Klaus. Should help immensely.

Chris

Aluminum (and it is Aluminum, not Aluminium) foil would probably interfere
with an MRI and be against hospital policy. I do wear the leather apron when
getting X-rayed at the dentist, though.
Klaus

--
"We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and
then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so
as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry
on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that
sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually
on a battlefield." --George Orwell, 1946, "Under Your Nose"

.


User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: Mind Reading 28 Jun 2004 06:20:43 AM
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:11:07 -0500, Klaus Hellnick wrote
(in article <5KzDc.16462$w3.234@fe2.texas.rr.com>):

Subject: Re: Mind Reading
From: "Klaus Hellnick" <khellnicknospam@houston.rr.com>
Date: Yesterday 8:11
Newsgroups: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, talk.origins


"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:18510aff.0406270250.1bb9160d@posting.google.com...

Mind Reading
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5304846/site/newsweek/

The new science of decision making. It's not as rational as you think

By Jerry Adler
Newsweek

July 5 issue - Flat on my back, my eyes shrouded with LED goggles and
my ears encased in headphones, I was trundled into the maw of an fMRI
machine in a basement lab at the California Institute of Technology.
The business end of an fMRI is a giant cylindrical magnet, similar to
the MRI machines doctors use to diagnose tumors, but with the added


I have had MRIs done before and they still make me nervous. I admit they are
very useful, but there is something about exposing my body to such intense
alternating magnetic fields that the electrons scream that I find
unsettling. Klaus

I had several MRI's, because of the damaged cervical spine I had to have
repair a couple of years ago, my biggest problem with them was boredom, the
last one before surgery I had I nearly fell asleep in the middle of it.
If the techs hadn't kept asking me questions and telling me to "hold your
breath and don't move" I would have been quite happy to just nap.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
Campus Crusade for Cthulhu Supporter
.


User: "maff"

Title: Re: Mind Reading 28 Jun 2004 05:41:28 AM
(maff) wrote in message news:<18510aff.0406270250.1bb9160d@posting.google.com>...

Mind Reading
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5304846/site/newsweek/

The new science of decision making. It's not as rational as you think

By Jerry Adler
Newsweek

July 5 issue - Flat on my back, my eyes shrouded with LED goggles and
my ears encased in headphones, I was trundled into the maw of an fMRI
machine in a basement lab at the California Institute of Technology.
The business end of an fMRI is a giant cylindrical magnet, similar to
the MRI machines doctors use to diagnose tumors, but with the added
ability to show changes in brain activity as they happen?hence the
"f," which stands for "functional." In the magnet's powerful field,
blood sloshing back and forth inside my head reveals its presence
control room next door are Steven Quartz, a Caltech neuroscientist,
and Colin Camerer, an economist, who are looking inside my brain to
help understand some of the most vexing problems in postmodern
society?irrational market bubbles, intractable Third World poverty and
loser brothers-in-law who want to borrow $5,000 to open a franchised
back-rub parlor. My brain was helping science explain why, despite
centuries of progress in economic theory since Adam Smith, actual
human beings so often refuse to behave as equations say they should.

Steven Quartz
http://news.google.com/news?q=%20%22Steven%20Quartz%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gn

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Steven+Quartz%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&tab=nw&sa=N

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Steven%20Quartz&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en

Colin Camerer
http://news.google.com/news?q=%20%22Colin%20Camerer%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gn

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Colin+Camerer%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&tab=nw&sa=N

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Colin%20Camerer&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en

neuroscientist neuroscientists neuroeconomics Neurostrategies
neuromarketing neuroscience
http://news.google.com/news?q=%20neuroscientist%20OR%20neuroscientists%20OR%20neuroeconomics%20OR%20Neurostrategies%20OR%20neuromarketing%20OR%20neuroscience&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?q=neuroscientist+OR+neuroscientists+OR+neuroeconomics+OR+Neurostrategies+OR+neuromarketing+OR+neuroscience&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&tab=nw&sa=N
http://www.google.com/search?q=neuroscientist+OR+neuroscientists+OR+neuroeconomics+OR+Neurostrategies+OR+neuromarketing+OR+neuroscience&ie=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=neuroscientist%20OR%20neuroscientists%20OR%20neuroeconomics%20OR%20Neurostrategies%20OR%20neuromarketing%20OR%20neuroscience&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wg
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_oq=neuroscientist%20neuroscientists%20neuroeconomics%20Neurostrategies%20neuromarketing%20neuroscience&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&hl=en


A Blueprint for the Future
http://tinyurl.com/9vga

.

User: "Meteorite Debris"

Title: Re: Mind Reading 27 Jun 2004 11:13:05 PM
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:47:53 +0000 (UTC) the ET form known as
maff<maff91@yahoo.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of
deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

Mind Reading
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5304846/site/newsweek/

The new science of decision making. It's not as rational as you think

By Jerry Adler
Newsweek

July 5 issue - Flat on my back, my eyes shrouded with LED goggles and
my ears encased in headphones, I was trundled into the maw of an fMRI
machine in a basement lab at the California Institute of Technology.
The business end of an fMRI is a giant cylindrical magnet, similar to
the MRI machines doctors use to diagnose tumors, but with the added
ability to show changes in brain activity as they happen—hence the
"f," which stands for "functional." In the magnet's powerful field,
blood sloshing back and forth inside my head reveals its presence
control room next door are Steven Quartz, a Caltech neuroscientist,
and Colin Camerer, an economist, who are looking inside my brain to
help understand some of the most vexing problems in postmodern
society—irrational market bubbles, intractable Third World poverty and
loser brothers-in-law who want to borrow $5,000 to open a franchised
back-rub parlor. My brain was helping science explain why, despite
centuries of progress in economic theory since Adam Smith, actual
human beings so often refuse to behave as equations say they should.

Most scientists reexamine their models when outcomes differ from what
the model predicted. Not economists. They blame the subjects of their
experiments instead.
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived." - Isaac Asimov
.
User: "John Wilkins"

Title: Re: Mind Reading 27 Jun 2004 11:36:36 PM
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:47:53 +0000 (UTC) the ET form known as
maff<maff91@yahoo.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of
deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

Mind Reading
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5304846/site/newsweek/

The new science of decision making. It's not as rational as you think

By Jerry Adler
Newsweek

July 5 issue - Flat on my back, my eyes shrouded with LED goggles and
my ears encased in headphones, I was trundled into the maw of an fMRI
machine in a basement lab at the California Institute of Technology.
The business end of an fMRI is a giant cylindrical magnet, similar to
the MRI machines doctors use to diagnose tumors, but with the added
ability to show changes in brain activity as they happenËśhence the
"f," which stands for "functional." In the magnet's powerful field,
blood sloshing back and forth inside my head reveals its presence
control room next door are Steven Quartz, a Caltech neuroscientist,
and Colin Camerer, an economist, who are looking inside my brain to
help understand some of the most vexing problems in postmodern
societyËśirrational market bubbles, intractable Third World poverty and
loser brothers-in-law who want to borrow $5,000 to open a franchised
back-rub parlor. My brain was helping science explain why, despite
centuries of progress in economic theory since Adam Smith, actual
human beings so often refuse to behave as equations say they should.


Most scientists reexamine their models when outcomes differ from what
the model predicted. Not economists. They blame the subjects of their
experiments instead.

Perfectly in tune with what Kuhn said about anomalous results in
ordinary science, my lad...
--
Dr John Wilkins - YES, IT'S A JOKE!
john_SPAM@wilkins.id.au http://wilkins.id.au
"Men mark it when they hit, but do not mark it when they miss"
- Francis Bacon
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