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04 Apr 2005 09:51:06 AM |
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Misc, |
The first world leader
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1451482,00.html
The greatest political actor of our time leaves us the challenge of
moral globalisation
Timothy Garton Ash
Monday April 4, 2005
The Guardian
The world lived this death. It was a global Calvary. People from every
corner of the earth gathered in St Peter's Square, peering up at those
two windows of the papal apartment, illuminated against the night sky.
Across five continents, Christians, Jews and Muslims joined them
through television. Marcello, from Rio de Janeiro, emailed CNN: "We are
watching the agony of the greatest man of our time." Mohamed, from
Birmingham, emailed the BBC: "He will be missed by Catholics and
non-Catholics alike."
Timothy Garton Ash
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/2cc6a786ff8c7302
The Pope has blood on his hands
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1451484,00.html
The Pope did great damage to the church, and to countless Catholics
Terry Eagleton
Monday April 4, 2005
The Guardian
John Paul II became Pope in 1978, just as the emancipatory 60s were
declining into the long political night of Ronald Reagan and Margaret
Thatcher. As the economic downturn of the early 70s began to bite, the
western world made a decisive shift to the right, and the
transformation of an obscure Polish bishop from Karol Wojtyla to John
Paul II was part of this wider transition. The Catholic church had
lived through its own brand of flower power in the 60s, known as the
Second Vatican Council; and the time was now ripe to rein in leftist
monks, clap-happy nuns and Latin American Catholic Marxists. All of
this had been set in train by a pope - John XIII - whom the Catholic
conservatives regarded as at best wacky and at worst a Soviet agent.
Terry Eagleton
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/a4baad08fcd778a7
Crossing continents on the Old Kent Road
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1451483,00.html
One small stretch of London seems to capture half the world - and it is
Britain's future, whether Michael Howard likes it or not
Peter Preston
Monday April 4, 2005
The Guardian
Eat Portuguese chicken or Caribbean goat in one of the Elephant and
Castle cafes. Drink a half of Danish or Aussie lager at the Charlie
Chaplin, eponymous pub of the actor's birthplace. And then, with a
twirl of the cane, turn sharp right in search of England.
"We are all British, we are one nation," Michael Howard said the other
day. And "in the mad pursuit of the folly of multiculturalism, more and
more people of all races are confused about who and what exactly the
British - which means themselves - are supposed to be".
Peter Preston
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/49bfac2dff24e5aa
World watch
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1451502,00.html
Ian Black
Monday April 4, 2005
The Guardian
Media folk everywhere, but especially those who work on the Washington
Post, treasure the saying coined by the paper's one-time owner, Phil
Graham, that journalism is the "first rough draft of history". It's a
good line, with a nice touch of gravitas - and comforting too, since it
forgives deadline-induced errors of fact, perspective and balance that
historians, with the luxury of time, distance and documents, are
supposed to be able to avoid. So it is heartening to read a book by a
Post writer that uses all the tricks of the journalistic trade - and
provides a stunningly detailed account of how the US abandoned
Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal, then tried to work with the
Taliban but failed to stop Osama bin Laden in the fateful years before
9/11. Steve Coll's Ghost Wars, just published in Britain, came out to
rave reviews in the US last summer. It is based on 200 largely
on-the-record interviews with the key protagonists, and it's hard to
imagine that later, more polished drafts, will tell a very different
story.
Ian Black
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You gotta have soul
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1451653,00.html
Brenda Maddox on how science could provide the Vatican with a way out
of its twin dilemmas of abortion and contraception
Monday April 4, 2005
The Guardian
With the prospect of a change of regime at the Vatican, many (both
within and outside the Catholic church, including non-believers like
myself) are praying for a progressive pope to be appointed. The time is
right to move forward on two of the most vexing issues for the laity -
contraception and abortion.
This is a highly sensitive area but the chance to change the Vatican's
stance could come from new discoveries in embryology. John Paul II's
successor will now have a chance to modify the doctrine that has
angered and alienated so many women, without repudiating the past.
Brenda Maddox
http://news.google.com/news?tab=gn&q=%22Brenda%20Maddox%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&
http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&q=%22Brenda+Maddox%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Brenda+Maddox%22&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=%22Brenda+Maddox%22&start=0&scoring=d&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&
Blue Skies: Thinking the unthinkable
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=626078
It's the 21st century's most valuable commodity: a fresh, raw,
innovative idea. But can brain power alone really change the world and
improve our lives?
By Matthew Sweet
03 April 2005
In the offices of the Global Ideas Bank, its director, Nick Temple, is
marshalling the thoughts of an online community of thinkers that
stretches from Brighton to Bhutan. At the London School of Economics,
Professor Ian Angell is preparing a presentation for a corporate
audience. His contention? That democracy should be dismantled for the
benefit of the rich.
In a modest meeting room in Deptford, south-east London, the writer and
lateral thinker Gerard Darby is asking a class of local entrepreneurs
to fold their arms the other way round and feel the discomfort - in the
hope that they may do something similar with their minds.
Nick Temple
http://news.google.com/news?tab=gn&q=%22Nick%20Temple%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&
http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&q=%22Nick+Temple%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Nick+Temple%22&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=%22Nick+Temple%22&start=0&scoring=d&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&
Ian Angell
http://news.google.com/news?tab=gn&q=%22Ian%20Angell%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&
http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&q=%22Ian+Angell%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ian+Angell%22&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=%22Ian+Angell%22&start=0&scoring=d&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&
www.globalideasbank.org
www.futuresskills.co.uk
www.thersa.org/250/chc.asp
www.newintegrity.org
www.civitas.org.uk
www.strategy.gov.uk
The brains brigade
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=626083
Why don't we...
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=626085
....take conventional wisdom and turn it on its head? (After all, true
innovators take nothing for granted)
Kenyan Village Serves as Test Case in Fight on Poverty
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/04/international/africa/04village.html?pagewanted=all&position=
By MARC LACEY
A settlement in western Kenya is the subject of a project that aims to
fight poverty in all its aspects.
Can't come up with any inspired notions of your own? Don't fret -
there's a wonk out there to do the mind-work for you. Ed Caesar
navigates the tranquil waters of Britain's top 20 think tanks
Kenya
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/ee9ee74ad14c0b30
Jeffrey Sachs
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/5f5947d99e40bf5e
Poverty
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/06484f37149d4531
Millennium Development Goals
http://news.google.com/news?tab=gn&q=%22Millennium%20Development%20Goals%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&
http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&q=%22Millennium+Development+Goals%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Millennium+Development+Goals%22&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&cat=gwd%2FTop
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| User: "Williams" |
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04 Apr 2005 04:21:07 PM |
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regardless of a person's faith or nationality, when you see flags at
half mast in godless communist cuba and throughout the arab world for
someone who was obviously not one of them... you have to admit the
world has lost a tremendous popular figure and a great leader... there
is deep and universal respect for the man...
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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04 Apr 2005 05:41:53 PM |
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On 4 Apr 2005 09:21:07 -0700, "Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com>
wrote:
regardless of a person's faith or nationality, when you see flags at
half mast in godless communist cuba and throughout the arab world for
someone who was obviously not one of them... you have to admit the
world has lost a tremendous popular figure and a great leader... there
is deep and universal respect for the man...
"Godless communist Cuba"? Most of the communists there were Catholic.
The world has lost an old man who poked his nose in other people's
business. The kind of religious leader who imagines he should be the
arbiter of everybody's conscience even if they don't share his
beliefs. And who arrogantly talks at people as though they did.
Have people forgotten so quickly, his interference with the US
electoral process, threatening politicians and candidates they would
be refused communion if they didn't follow the Vatican line?
Or his pushing Poland who weren't even in the EU at the time, over the
preamble to the new EU constitution? The Vatican isn't a member of the
EU. He had nothing to say on the matter. Let alone the standard lies
about what not "acknowledging Christian heritage" meant.
In both these his interference cost him and his church far more than
it gained them. It reopened the divide with mainstream Protestants.
A while back he made overtures to the Archbishop of Canterbury, but
these would have required the CofE to become Catholic. That's his idea
of ecumenism.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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04 Apr 2005 04:45:06 PM |
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On 4 Apr 2005 09:21:07 -0700, "Williams" <c-williams3@lycos.com>
wrote:
regardless of a person's faith or nationality, when you see flags at
half mast in godless communist cuba and throughout the arab world for
someone who was obviously not one of them... you have to admit the
world has lost a tremendous popular figure and a great leader... there
is deep and universal respect for the man...
"Godless communist Cuba"? Most of the communists there were Catholic.
The world has lost an old man who poked his nose in other people's
business. The kind of religious leader who imagines he should be the
arbiter of everybody's conscience even if they don't share his
beliefs. And who arrogantly talks at people as though they did.In
front of me I have an open POO, the PLOFIX hex, and a printout of the
PLO listing. Behind that the keyboard and screen for the PSI machine.
She likes sprawling on any of those
Have people forgotten so quickly, his interference with the US
electoral process, threatening politicians and candidates they would
be refused communion if they didn't follow the Vatican line?
Or his pushing Poland who weren't even in the EU at the time, over the
preamble to the new EU constitution? The Vatican isn't a member of the
EU. He had nothing to say on the matter. Let alone the standard lies
about what not "acknowledging Christian heritage" meant.
In both these his interference cost him and his church far more than
it gained them. It reopened the divide with mainstream Protestants.
A while back he made overtures to the Archbishop of Canterbury, but
these would have required the CofE to become Catholic. That's his idea
of ecumenism.
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| User: "Jez" |
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04 Apr 2005 04:35:15 PM |
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Williams wrote:
regardless of a person's faith or nationality, when you see flags at
half mast in godless communist cuba and throughout the arab world for
someone who was obviously not one of them... you have to admit the
world has lost a tremendous popular figure and a great leader... there
is deep and universal respect for the man...
There's no limits on the depths of human stupidity.
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
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