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User: "johac"
Date: 04 Apr 2005 05:52:43 AM
Object: Mississippi bill would allow Sermon on the Mount posting
Mississippi sounds even worse than Kansas.
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Mississippi bill would allow Sermon on the Mount posting
By The Associated Press
03.31.05
JACKSON, Miss. The Mississippi House yesterday overwhelmingly approved
a bill that would allow the Ten Commandments and other religious texts
to be placed in public buildings, a day after the Senate also approved
it.
The legislation now goes before Republican Gov. Haley Barbour, who is
"inclined to sign" it, said his spokesman, Pete Smith.
The bill, H.B. 1149, would "authorize" the postings at the "discretion"
of government departments and offices statewide.
The measure passed the House 97-15 and the Senate 40-4 despite warnings
from some lawmakers that the state should wait until the U.S. Supreme
Court rules on the constitutionality of displaying the Ten Commandments
on public property.
Mississippi has had a law since 2001 requiring the motto "In God We
Trust" to be posted in public schools. The new bill would allow the
motto, the Ten Commandments and excerpts from Jesus' Sermon on the
Mount, also known as the Beatitudes, to be posted in all public
buildings.
Democratic Sen. Johnnie Walls unsuccessfully tried to kill the bill on
March 29.
"What we're attempting to do here is proselytize our religion," he said.
"We're setting ourselves up for a lot of ridicule. Again, Mississippi
will look less than progressive."
Other lawmakers defended the state's right to decide the issue,
shrugging off questions about the constitutionality of the bill and how
it might be viewed as offensive to people who are not Christians.
"Maybe the Supreme Court will say this is not legal," said Republican
Sen. Alan Nunnelee. "Just because the Supreme Court says something
doesn't mean that it's right."
The high court heard arguments earlier this month in cases involving Ten
Commandments displays in Texas and Kentucky. It is the court's first
consideration of the issue since 1980, when justices ruled the Ten
Commandments could not be displayed in public schools. Mississippi's
2001 law has never been challenged.
"I'm in favor of that bill without equivocation," said House Speaker
Billy McCoy, D-Rienzi.
Rep. Reecy Dickson, D-Macon, who opposed the bill, said the legislation
served no purpose and the passages could appear on public school walls
housing a diverse student population.
"It seems unjust to impose someone's religious beliefs onto someone
else," she said.
But Azzam Abumirshid, president of the Mississippi Muslim Association,
said he had no objection to the bill.
"The Muslim faith and the Christian faith, we share the Ten
Commandments. I don't know why people felt we would be offended,"
Abumirshid said, adding that there are about 400 Muslims in the
metropolitan area of Jackson, the state's capital.
But he said he wasn't familiar with the "In God We Trust" motto or the
Beatitudes.
Rep. Cecil Brown, D-Jackson, who supported the bill, said if the
legislation were found to be unconstitutional the displays would be
removed.
"The more we can remind people about their moral ethics in society, the
better off we are," Brown said.
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
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User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: Mississippi bill would allow Sermon on the Mount posting 04 Apr 2005 09:39:46 AM
In article <jhachm-0C4CB8.22524303042005@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:

JACKSON, Miss. The Mississippi House yesterday overwhelmingly approved
a bill that would allow the Ten Commandments and other religious texts
to be placed in public buildings, a day after the Senate also approved
it.

Why don't they just go ahead and make the Bible the official handbook
for the state of Mizzippi? I seriously doubt it would help cut into the
rate of poverty, crime or much of anything else. Might increase the
steady stream of people trying to get the hell out of the place.
It would certainly cause the two or three major universities there to
destabilize when half the facutly members run for more enlightened
places to live, like Arkansas and Alabama. But then they could show the
rest of the country just what a Bible-run state would look like. I hope
it happens.
Idiots.
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User: "Walter Bushell"

Title: Re: Mississippi bill would allow Sermon on the Mount posting 14 Apr 2005 04:18:26 PM
In article <nemo0037-5F0E79.05404404042005@news1.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
<snip>

It would certainly cause the two or three major universities there to
destabilize when half the facutly members run for more enlightened
places to live, like Arkansas and Alabama.

<snip>
That is the most visous slam I have heard in months.
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Mississippi bill would allow Sermon on the Mount posting 06 Apr 2005 05:33:11 AM
In article <nemo0037-5F0E79.05404404042005@news1.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:

In article <jhachm-0C4CB8.22524303042005@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:

JACKSON, Miss. The Mississippi House yesterday overwhelmingly approved
a bill that would allow the Ten Commandments and other religious texts
to be placed in public buildings, a day after the Senate also approved
it.


Why don't they just go ahead and make the Bible the official handbook
for the state of Mizzippi?

I think that some would like to ban all books except the bible.

I seriously doubt it would help cut into the
rate of poverty, crime or much of anything else. Might increase the
steady stream of people trying to get the hell out of the place.

If I ever decided to move, I think that Mississippi would be about last
on my list.


It would certainly cause the two or three major universities there to
destabilize when half the facutly members run for more enlightened
places to live, like Arkansas and Alabama. But then they could show the
rest of the country just what a Bible-run state would look like. I hope
it happens.

Think Afghanistan under the Taliban.


Idiots.

--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Mississippi bill would allow Sermon on the Mount posting 07 Apr 2005 04:51:21 PM
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:52:43 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:

Mississippi sounds even worse than Kansas.

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Mississippi bill would allow Sermon on the Mount posting

By The Associated Press
03.31.05

JACKSON, Miss. The Mississippi House yesterday overwhelmingly approved
a bill that would allow the Ten Commandments and other religious texts
to be placed in public buildings, a day after the Senate also approved
it.

The legislation now goes before Republican Gov. Haley Barbour, who is
"inclined to sign" it, said his spokesman, Pete Smith.

The bill, H.B. 1149, would "authorize" the postings at the "discretion"
of government departments and offices statewide.

The measure passed the House 97-15 and the Senate 40-4 despite warnings
from some lawmakers that the state should wait until the U.S. Supreme
Court rules on the constitutionality of displaying the Ten Commandments
on public property.

Mississippi has had a law since 2001 requiring the motto "In God We
Trust" to be posted in public schools. The new bill would allow the
motto, the Ten Commandments and excerpts from Jesus' Sermon on the
Mount, also known as the Beatitudes, to be posted in all public
buildings.

Democratic Sen. Johnnie Walls unsuccessfully tried to kill the bill on
March 29.

"What we're attempting to do here is proselytize our religion," he said.
"We're setting ourselves up for a lot of ridicule. Again, Mississippi
will look less than progressive."

Other lawmakers defended the state's right to decide the issue,
shrugging off questions about the constitutionality of the bill and how
it might be viewed as offensive to people who are not Christians.

"Maybe the Supreme Court will say this is not legal," said Republican
Sen. Alan Nunnelee. "Just because the Supreme Court says something
doesn't mean that it's right."

The high court heard arguments earlier this month in cases involving Ten
Commandments displays in Texas and Kentucky. It is the court's first
consideration of the issue since 1980, when justices ruled the Ten
Commandments could not be displayed in public schools. Mississippi's
2001 law has never been challenged.

"I'm in favor of that bill without equivocation," said House Speaker
Billy McCoy, D-Rienzi.

Rep. Reecy Dickson, D-Macon, who opposed the bill, said the legislation
served no purpose and the passages could appear on public school walls
housing a diverse student population.

"It seems unjust to impose someone's religious beliefs onto someone
else," she said.

But Azzam Abumirshid, president of the Mississippi Muslim Association,
said he had no objection to the bill.

"The Muslim faith and the Christian faith, we share the Ten
Commandments. I don't know why people felt we would be offended,"
Abumirshid said, adding that there are about 400 Muslims in the
metropolitan area of Jackson, the state's capital.

But he said he wasn't familiar with the "In God We Trust" motto or the
Beatitudes.

Rep. Cecil Brown, D-Jackson, who supported the bill, said if the
legislation were found to be unconstitutional the displays would be
removed.

"The more we can remind people about their moral ethics in society, the
better off we are," Brown said.

Once again, the Christian majority demonstrates their lack of ethics.
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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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