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25 Jun 2005 04:44:20 PM |
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Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics ... almost everyone ... reacts with astonishment,
anger even, at the suggestion that the evidence clearly points to the probability that
Mohammed never existed.
"In all the Arab religious institutions during the Sufyani period [661-684 A.D.] there is a
complete absence of any reference to Muhammad. In fact neither the name
Muhammad itself nor any Muhammadan formulae (that he is the prophet of God)
appears in any inscription dated before the year 691 A.D.. This is true whether the main
purpose of the inscription is religious, such as in supplications, or whether it was used
as a commemorative inscription, though including a religious emphasis, such as the
inscription at the dam near the town of Ta'if, built by the Caliph Mu'awiya in the 660s
A.D."
Furthermore ,,, no Mosques, not one, were orientated towards Mecca until the early
part of the 8th century.
The Koran is a pack of lies.
The early Arabs were NOT Muslims! Islam, as it exists today, did not appear until the
8th century.
The Koran is a fraud.
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| User: "Larry Heath" |
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| Title: Re: Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
25 Jun 2005 07:59:40 PM |
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"me" <here@now.com> wrote in message
news:42bdd02f$0$12101$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics ... almost everyone ... reacts with
astonishment,
anger even, at the suggestion that the evidence clearly points to the
probability that
Mohammed never existed.
"In all the Arab religious institutions during the Sufyani period [661-684
A.D.] there is a
complete absence of any reference to Muhammad. In fact neither the name
Muhammad itself nor any Muhammadan formulae (that he is the prophet of
God)
appears in any inscription dated before the year 691 A.D.. This is true
whether the main
purpose of the inscription is religious, such as in supplications, or
whether it was used
as a commemorative inscription, though including a religious emphasis,
such as the
inscription at the dam near the town of Ta'if, built by the Caliph
Mu'awiya in the 660s
A.D."
Furthermore ,,, no Mosques, not one, were orientated towards Mecca until
the early
part of the 8th century.
The Koran is a pack of lies.
The early Arabs were NOT Muslims! Islam, as it exists today, did not
appear until the
8th century.
The Koran is a fraud.
Of Course its a fraud.
Religions, all religions, are and have been attempts by a few people, to
control many people, by invoking some supreme entity that whispers in these
select few ears, telling them and only them, what is right and what is
wrong, how to live, when to sleep, what to eat, when to eat, when to pray
and which hand to wipe ones butt with. Religion is all about control of the
many by the few.
Its been thus for 15000 or 20000 years since the first man discovered that
by acting a bit strange and being smart about nature his surroundings and
human nature, he reached a high level of control over others in his tribe,
they were the first shaman or priests or religious leaders of the first
small bands of humans. These first shaman may very well have had the best
interests of the tribe at heart, but as we still see today, power corrupts.
The more power one has the more one seeks to have and will do anything to
gain more power. Power and control, the same thing if one looks at it in the
right light. Power and control, religions bread and butter!
For 10's of thousands of years, one god after another, one religion after
another, one myth after another, one groups gods against another groups god
or gods, man has sought to gain control over his fellow man through the
medium of religion. The human races ultimate head game.
How incredibly disheartening man is still so gullible and malleable as
regards religions.
Later Larry
aa # 2216
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| User: "me" |
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| Title: Re: Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
25 Jun 2005 05:25:48 PM |
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"me" <here@now.com> wrote:
Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics ... almost everyone ... reacts with astonishment,
anger even, at the suggestion that the evidence clearly points to the probability that
Mohammed never existed.
"In all the Arab religious institutions during the Sufyani period [661-684 A.D.] there is a
complete absence of any reference to Muhammad. In fact neither the name
Muhammad itself nor any Muhammadan formulae (that he is the prophet of God)
appears in any inscription dated before the year 691 A.D.. This is true whether the main
purpose of the inscription is religious, such as in supplications, or whether it was used
as a commemorative inscription, though including a religious emphasis, such as the
inscription at the dam near the town of Ta'if, built by the Caliph Mu'awiya in the 660s
A.D."
Furthermore ,,, no Mosques, not one, were orientated towards Mecca until the early
part of the 8th century.
The Koran is a pack of lies.
The early Arabs were NOT Muslims! Islam, as it exists today, did not appear until the
8th century.
The Koran is a fraud.
'The sources of Mohammed's biography are numerous, but on the whole untrustworthy,
being crowded with fictitious details, legends, and stories. None of his biographies were
compiled during his lifetime, and the earliest was written a century and a half after his
death. The Koran is perhaps the only reliable source for the leading events in his
career'
Catholic Encyclopaedia
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
25 Jun 2005 05:45:06 PM |
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me wrote:
"me" <here@now.com> wrote:
Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics ... almost everyone ... reacts with astonishment,
anger even, at the suggestion that the evidence clearly points to the probability that
Mohammed never existed.
"In all the Arab religious institutions during the Sufyani period [661-684 A.D.] there is a
complete absence of any reference to Muhammad. In fact neither the name
Muhammad itself nor any Muhammadan formulae (that he is the prophet of God)
appears in any inscription dated before the year 691 A.D.. This is true whether the main
purpose of the inscription is religious, such as in supplications, or whether it was used
as a commemorative inscription, though including a religious emphasis, such as the
inscription at the dam near the town of Ta'if, built by the Caliph Mu'awiya in the 660s
A.D."
Furthermore ,,, no Mosques, not one, were orientated towards Mecca until the early
part of the 8th century.
The Koran is a pack of lies.
The early Arabs were NOT Muslims! Islam, as it exists today, did not appear until the
8th century.
The Koran is a fraud.
'The sources of Mohammed's biography are numerous, but on the whole untrustworthy,
being crowded with fictitious details, legends, and stories. None of his biographies were
compiled during his lifetime, and the earliest was written a century and a half after his
death. The Koran is perhaps the only reliable source for the leading events in his
career'
Catholic Encyclopaedia
Wow, Mohammed could easily be replaced by Jesus in that.
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| User: "Razor 616" |
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| Title: Re: Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
26 Jun 2005 07:07:29 AM |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:45:06 +0100, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
'The sources of Mohammed's biography are numerous, but on the whole untrustworthy,
being crowded with fictitious details, legends, and stories. None of his biographies were
compiled during his lifetime, and the earliest was written a century and a half after his
death. The Koran is perhaps the only reliable source for the leading events in his
career'
Catholic Encyclopaedia
Wow, Mohammed could easily be replaced by Jesus in that.
Yeah, it's astonishing how much alike they are. Too bad the idiot
hypocrite catholics who wrote that can't see that.
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#1295
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| User: "Grogs" |
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| Title: Re: Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
26 Jun 2005 01:19:14 PM |
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Razor 616 <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:ui6tb1t5evjkk9ov9se83qg9puqa1rml33@4ax.com:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:45:06 +0100, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
'The sources of Mohammed's biography are numerous, but on the whole
untrustworthy, being crowded with fictitious details, legends, and
stories. None of his biographies were compiled during his lifetime,
and the earliest was written a century and a half after his death.
The Koran is perhaps the only reliable source for the leading events
in his career'
Catholic Encyclopaedia
Wow, Mohammed could easily be replaced by Jesus in that.
Yeah, it's astonishing how much alike they are. Too bad the idiot
hypocrite catholics who wrote that can't see that.
It reminds me of the post I read on alt.bible to the effect of:
The Koran is inconsistent and full of anachronisms. It was also inspired
by a minion of Satan, not God. Now the Bible, on the other hand...
I almost wet myself I laughed so hard reading it. From what I've read of
the two books, the Qur'an can't hold a candle to the Bible when it comes to
inconsistancies.
#1295
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
26 Jun 2005 04:54:53 PM |
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Grogs wrote:
Razor 616 <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:ui6tb1t5evjkk9ov9se83qg9puqa1rml33@4ax.com:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:45:06 +0100, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
'The sources of Mohammed's biography are numerous, but on the whole
untrustworthy, being crowded with fictitious details, legends, and
stories. None of his biographies were compiled during his lifetime,
and the earliest was written a century and a half after his death.
The Koran is perhaps the only reliable source for the leading events
in his career'
Catholic Encyclopaedia
Wow, Mohammed could easily be replaced by Jesus in that.
Yeah, it's astonishing how much alike they are. Too bad the idiot
hypocrite catholics who wrote that can't see that.
It reminds me of the post I read on alt.bible to the effect of:
The Koran is inconsistent and full of anachronisms. It was also inspired
by a minion of Satan, not God. Now the Bible, on the other hand...
I almost wet myself I laughed so hard reading it. From what I've read of
the two books, the Qur'an can't hold a candle to the Bible when it comes to
inconsistancies.
Well, the True Beleivers of both manage to twist away any
inconsistancies and hold onto their belief it is innerant
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| User: "Niels van der Linden" |
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| Title: Re: Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
25 Jun 2005 05:23:14 PM |
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Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics ... almost everyone ... reacts with
astonishment,
anger even, at the suggestion that the evidence clearly points to the
probability that
Mohammed never existed.
"In all the Arab religious institutions during the Sufyani period [661-684
A.D.] there is a
complete absence of any reference to Muhammad. In fact neither the name
Muhammad itself nor any Muhammadan formulae (that he is the prophet of
God)
appears in any inscription dated before the year 691 A.D.. This is true
whether the main
purpose of the inscription is religious, such as in supplications, or
whether it was used
as a commemorative inscription, though including a religious emphasis,
such as the
inscription at the dam near the town of Ta'if, built by the Caliph
Mu'awiya in the 660s
A.D."
Furthermore ,,, no Mosques, not one, were orientated towards Mecca until
the early
part of the 8th century.
The Koran is a pack of lies.
The early Arabs were NOT Muslims! Islam, as it exists today, did not
appear until the
8th century.
The Koran is a fraud.
Talk to this guy:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/islam1.html
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/islam2.html
And see where one can learn from the other.
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| User: "Divin Marquis" |
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| Title: Re: Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
25 Jun 2005 09:08:03 PM |
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Le Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:44:20 +0000, me a écrit :
Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics ... almost everyone ... reacts with
astonishment, anger even, at the suggestion that the evidence clearly
points to the probability that Mohammed never existed.
There's plenty more evidence that Muhammad existed than Jesus.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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25 Jun 2005 10:49:20 PM |
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On 25 Jun 2005, me dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics ... almost everyone ... reacts
with astonishment, anger even, at the suggestion that the evidence
clearly points to the probability that Mohammed never existed.
A thousand years from now nobody will care if my neighbor ever existed.
Just like I don't care now if Mohammad ever existed.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
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"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't think
there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and parading
around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face white and
praying to a rock."
[Howard Stern]
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| User: "Razor 616" |
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26 Jun 2005 07:06:29 AM |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:44:20 +0000, "me" <here@now.com> wrote:
Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics ... almost everyone ... reacts with astonishment,
No we don't. I for one react with complete and utter calm and
unastonishment :-)
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#1295
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
26 Jun 2005 06:35:54 AM |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:44:20 +0000, "me" <here@now.com> wrote:
Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics ... almost everyone ... reacts with astonishment,
anger even, at the suggestion that the evidence clearly points to the probability that
Mohammed never existed.
snip
The Koran is a fraud.
I don't give a toss, either way.
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling, Like any opinion stated here,
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: Mohammed - a fictitious character? |
25 Jun 2005 05:43:56 PM |
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me wrote:
Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics ... almost everyone ... reacts with astonishment,
anger even, at the suggestion that the evidence clearly points to the probability that
Mohammed never existed.
why would anyone other than a muslim be angered by this suggestion?
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