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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"Rune B"
Date:	05 Feb 2006 11:44:22 AM
Object:	Mohammed cartoon news

*Denmark's embassy in Lebanon on fire, norway's consulate under
attack, at least 30 wounded in street fighting (as for several hours
ago)
*Denmark's embassy in turkey under attack
*Priest shot and killed in turkey over Muhammed drawings
*Attempted firebombing of synagoge in norway
*Norway may break off relations with Syria, will demand reparations
and formal apology
*Iraq cancels all contracts with denmark and norway, and refuses to
accept cash donation for rebuilding (so what's the downside for us?)
*Demonstrations in egypt and iran
*Qatar refuses to aknowledge norwegian delegation
*Nordic and european diplomats under attack in indonesia
*International oil companies may suffer from muslim world boycott
*Jordanian newspaper editors arrested for supporting european freedom
of speech
*Egypt demands Denmark revoke freedom of press
*Nordic and european governments warn against travelling to muslim
countries
*Presidents of Germany, Finland, Portugal, Lithuania, Italy, Austria
and Hungary condemn muslim reactions, support european freedom of
speech, and meet to discuss role of islam in europe
*Syria: Embassy attacks were your own faults
*Swedish islam professors warn against new attacks: "The extremists
have got the ball rolling" (understand, that this coming from SWEDISH
professors of ISLAMOLOGY is a *HUGE* deal in the world's most PC
country)
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User: "Witziges Rätsel"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 12:36:53 PM

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.
.

User: "johac"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	08 Feb 2006 01:10:34 AM

In article <5c310$43e645a6$3f2a501f$14227@DIALUPUSA.NET>,
"Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com> wrote:

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.

All he is bringing is more chaos, destruction and death. The Texas Twit
is too dim to realize that he can't wave a magic wand, say "democracy"
and undo 1300 years of history.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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User: "Fred Stone"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	08 Feb 2006 09:23:45 AM

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-5FF6E2.23103407022006@news.giganews.com:

In article <5c310$43e645a6$3f2a501f$14227@DIALUPUSA.NET>,
"Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com> wrote:

*Denmark's embassy in Lebanon on fire, norway's consulate under
attack, at least 30 wounded in street fighting (as for several
hours ago)
*Denmark's embassy in turkey under attack
*Priest shot and killed in turkey over Muhammed drawings
*Attempted firebombing of synagoge in norway
*Norway may break off relations with Syria, will demand reparations
and formal apology
*Iraq cancels all contracts with denmark and norway, and refuses to
accept cash donation for rebuilding (so what's the downside for
us?) *Demonstrations in egypt and iran
*Qatar refuses to aknowledge norwegian delegation
*Nordic and european diplomats under attack in indonesia
*International oil companies may suffer from muslim world boycott
*Jordanian newspaper editors arrested for supporting european
freedom of speech
*Egypt demands Denmark revoke freedom of press
*Nordic and european governments warn against travelling to muslim
countries
*Presidents of Germany, Finland, Portugal, Lithuania, Italy,
Austria and Hungary condemn muslim reactions, support european
freedom of speech, and meet to discuss role of islam in europe
*Syria: Embassy attacks were your own faults
*Swedish islam professors warn against new attacks: "The extremists
have got the ball rolling" (understand, that this coming from
SWEDISH professors of ISLAMOLOGY is a *HUGE* deal in the world's
most PC country)

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.

All he is bringing is more chaos, destruction and death. The Texas
Twit is too dim to realize that he can't wave a magic wand, say
"democracy" and undo 1300 years of history.

I just knew it. Somehow you morons would find a way to Blame Bush.
It's All Bush's Fault, Right?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Dems say Repubs imperil civil liberties. David Koresh and Elian
Gonzalez were not available for comment." - Anon.
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	07 Feb 2006 12:20:09 PM

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 13:36:53 -0500, "Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.

Totalitarianism is democracy in bush speak.
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User: "Uncle Vic"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 01:38:45 PM

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Witziges Rätsel (zer@roer.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.

Democracy? Bush has turned democracy into another religion.
--
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Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	07 Feb 2006 12:30:28 PM

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:38:45 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Witziges Rätsel (zer@roer.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.

Democracy? Bush has turned democracy into another religion.

No, Bush is calling totalitarianism 'Democracy.'
--
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shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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User: "magilla"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 12:51:43 PM

Witziges R=E4tsel wrote:

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.

It occurs to me that this is the sort of thing
Doomsday/SF/End-of-the-World writers love to start their books and
stories with. "Cartoons spark riots worldwide!" and then we proceed
down some ridiculous spiral into a nucular annihilation.
It would just be too damned ironic.
Chris
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User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD....IT WAS EASY"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 01:08:44 PM

"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1139165503.836724.93690@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Witziges Rätsel wrote:

COOL!
religious war!yes yes yes!
i hope they wipe each other out.
lets roll!!
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	07 Feb 2006 12:20:47 PM

On 5 Feb 2006 10:51:43 -0800, "magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Witziges Rätsel wrote:

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.

Fiction can't hold a 'candle' to reality.
--
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shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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User: "Chris H. Fleming"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	06 Feb 2006 08:05:45 AM

magilla wrote:

Witziges R=E4tsel wrote:

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.

I think we are all trapped in a Douglas Adams novell.
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	07 Feb 2006 12:29:54 PM

On 6 Feb 2006 06:05:45 -0800, "Chris H. Fleming"
<chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism

magilla wrote:

Witziges Rätsel wrote:

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.

I think we are all trapped in a Douglas Adams novell.

We're in deep *****.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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User: "Chris Johnson"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 01:04:52 PM

magilla wrote:

Witziges R=E4tsel wrote:

Don't worry, Bush is bringing democracy to the Middle East.

The beginning of World War I was nearly as silly.
.

User: "Les Hemmings"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 01:50:49 PM

Chris Johnson wrote:

The beginning of World War I was nearly as silly.

I was just thinking that it feels like the battlelines are being drawn.
Just seen on the news that the 400 year old catholic sect in Iraq is now
upping sticks and pulling out. 400 years of co-existance with Islam, through
the "Great Game" the 19th-century imperial rivalry between the British
Empire and Tsarist Russia. Through the discovery of oil and the Saddam years
it is now finally all breaking down.
Demonstrators in London calling for the beheading of people who insult
Islam and our police do nothing. If I went into parliament square with a
"Eat the Rich" sign I would be nicked so fast my feet wouldn't touch the
ground!
I can't see any way back from here. The last global war, The Cold War, was
between two conflicting political ideologies. This century it's religion.
Sheesh! At least Stalin existed! You can't asassinate a mythical being. And
the one thing that we're facing that is totally outside our experience this
time is that to die for allah is a bonus! Fighting an enemy that is truly
unafraid to die. Communist Bloc & NATO troops would be happy to wave the
white flag if needs be. it's different this time. It's the one thing that
could not happen without religion. Like the 911 hijackers, they're sure of
going straight to heaven. (Bush called them cowardly, I can see nothing
cowardly in flying a plane into a building and facing certain death without
flinching)
It's the religiosity of both sides that is to blame for the mess we are
in. Bush & Blaire publicly admit to being theists. And theism is the very
bedrock of the terrorist threat from Islam. The irony of both sides shouting
"Allah Akhbar" and "With God on Our Side" as they kill each other has been
noted since the original crusades. It's still happening.
On Radio4 here in the UK we get a theist spot in the morning news.
Christians calling for restraint on both sides and understanding between
religions. Sickening! Not able to see that they are part of the problem.
It's ALL religion, not just islam. Perhaps the one good thing to come out of
all this, when it's finally over. Might just be that the majority will see
that it is theism that is the problem.
Could this period we are in be the last throes of religion?
Les
--
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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
His name shall be The Flying Spaghetti Monster!
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User: "Chris Johnson"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 02:14:10 PM

Les Hemmings wrote:

Chris Johnson wrote:

The beginning of World War I was nearly as silly.

I was just thinking that it feels like the battlelines are being drawn.

It really does. I woke up to find a growing list of attacks on the
embassies, the very mechanisms that are at least partially designed to
prevent wars. If there is no safe ground, how are we to resolve this
peacefully?

Just seen on the news that the 400 year old catholic sect in Iraq is now
upping sticks and pulling out. 400 years of co-existance with Islam, through
the "Great Game" the 19th-century imperial rivalry between the British
Empire and Tsarist Russia. Through the discovery of oil and the Saddam years
it is now finally all breaking down.
Demonstrators in London calling for the beheading of people who insult
Islam and our police do nothing. If I went into parliament square with a
"Eat the Rich" sign I would be nicked so fast my feet wouldn't touch the
ground!

I can't see any way back from here. The last global war, The Cold War, was
between two conflicting political ideologies. This century it's religion.
Sheesh! At least Stalin existed! You can't asassinate a mythical being. And
the one thing that we're facing that is totally outside our experience this
time is that to die for allah is a bonus! Fighting an enemy that is truly
unafraid to die. Communist Bloc & NATO troops would be happy to wave the
white flag if needs be. it's different this time. It's the one thing that
could not happen without religion. Like the 911 hijackers, they're sure of
going straight to heaven. (Bush called them cowardly, I can see nothing
cowardly in flying a plane into a building and facing certain death without
flinching)
It's the religiosity of both sides that is to blame for the mess we are
in. Bush & Blaire publicly admit to being theists. And theism is the very
bedrock of the terrorist threat from Islam. The irony of both sides shouting
"Allah Akhbar" and "With God on Our Side" as they kill each other has been
noted since the original crusades. It's still happening.
On Radio4 here in the UK we get a theist spot in the morning news.
Christians calling for restraint on both sides and understanding between
religions. Sickening! Not able to see that they are part of the problem.
It's ALL religion, not just islam. Perhaps the one good thing to come out of
all this, when it's finally over. Might just be that the majority will see
that it is theism that is the problem.
Could this period we are in be the last throes of religion?

That very well may be decided in this conflict. But it's still possible
for reason to lose.
.

User: "wbarwell"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 08:14:07 PM

Chris Johnson wrote:

Les Hemmings wrote:

Chris Johnson wrote:

The beginning of World War I was nearly as silly.

I was just thinking that it feels like the battlelines are being
drawn.

You don't. You start passing laws restricting immigration.
No more yabbering imams spreading hate. No more demonstrators
demannding death.
With the embassies burned, you pull out.
No more visas, no more immigration.
The problem solves itself.
The pathetic tiddly amounts of money
to be earned in Syria or Egypt aren't worth the trouble
really.
Many of these hell holes are going to undergo ecological
collapse soon anyway, and overpopulation.
Many already have steep illiteracy problems.
Deal with the oil nations as little as possible,
let the others rot on the vine.
Cut them loose. Cultural pariahs.

Just seen on the news that the 400 year old catholic sect in Iraq is
now upping sticks and pulling out. 400 years of co-existance with
Islam, through the "Great Game" the 19th-century imperial rivalry
between the British Empire and Tsarist Russia. Through the discovery
of oil and the Saddam years it is now finally all breaking down.
Demonstrators in London calling for the beheading of people who
insult
Islam and our police do nothing. If I went into parliament square with
a "Eat the Rich" sign I would be nicked so fast my feet wouldn't touch
the ground!

I can't see any way back from here. The last global war, The Cold
War, was
between two conflicting political ideologies. This century it's
religion. Sheesh! At least Stalin existed! You can't asassinate a
mythical being. And the one thing that we're facing that is totally
outside our experience this time is that to die for allah is a bonus!
Fighting an enemy that is truly unafraid to die. Communist Bloc & NATO
troops would be happy to wave the white flag if needs be. it's
different this time. It's the one thing that could not happen without
religion. Like the 911 hijackers, they're sure of going straight to
heaven. (Bush called them cowardly, I can see nothing cowardly in
flying a plane into a building and facing certain death without
flinching)
It's the religiosity of both sides that is to blame for the mess
we are
in. Bush & Blaire publicly admit to being theists. And theism is the
very bedrock of the terrorist threat from Islam. The irony of both
sides shouting "Allah Akhbar" and "With God on Our Side" as they kill
each other has been noted since the original crusades. It's still
happening.
On Radio4 here in the UK we get a theist spot in the morning news.
Christians calling for restraint on both sides and understanding
between religions. Sickening! Not able to see that they are part of
the problem. It's ALL religion, not just islam. Perhaps the one good
thing to come out of all this, when it's finally over. Might just be
that the majority will see that it is theism that is the problem.

Could this period we are in be the last throes of religion?

That very well may be decided in this conflict. But it's still possible
for reason to lose.

--
The first law of the false prophet has
always and ever been "Don't laugh!"
Cheerful Charlie
.

User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	07 Feb 2006 12:27:48 PM

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 20:14:07 -0600, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Chris Johnson wrote:

Les Hemmings wrote:

Chris Johnson wrote:

The beginning of World War I was nearly as silly.

I was just thinking that it feels like the battlelines are being
drawn.

Well, the problem isn't solved, but those areas with embargoes for visas
and immigration will be able to go about their business.

The pathetic tiddly amounts of money
to be earned in Syria or Egypt aren't worth the trouble
really.

Many of these hell holes are going to undergo ecological
collapse soon anyway, and overpopulation.
Many already have steep illiteracy problems.

Allah akubar

Deal with the oil nations as little as possible,
let the others rot on the vine.

Allah akubar

Cut them loose. Cultural pariahs.

Allah akubar as is the resulting wide-spread deaths.
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	07 Feb 2006 12:23:30 PM

On 5 Feb 2006 12:14:10 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism

Les Hemmings wrote:

Chris Johnson wrote:

The beginning of World War I was nearly as silly.

I was just thinking that it feels like the battlelines are being drawn.

Islam has no interest in peace.
[]

On Radio4 here in the UK we get a theist spot in the morning news.
Christians calling for restraint on both sides and understanding between
religions. Sickening! Not able to see that they are part of the problem.
It's ALL religion, not just islam. Perhaps the one good thing to come out of
all this, when it's finally over. Might just be that the majority will see
that it is theism that is the problem.
Could this period we are in be the last throes of religion?

That very well may be decided in this conflict. But it's still possible
for reason to lose.

Reason's been losing for thousands of years.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.

User: "Panama Floyd"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	08 Feb 2006 01:35:36 AM

Les Hemmings wrote:

Chris Johnson wrote:

The beginning of World War I was nearly as silly.

I find myself agreeing with you. Sometimes I wonder if we were actually
*safer* during the Cold War. Both sides realized that there was
something to lose. These people actually desire some sort of definitive
outcome, regardless of cost to people or planet.

It's the religiosity of both sides that is to blame for the mess we are
in. Bush & Blaire publicly admit to being theists. And theism is the very
bedrock of the terrorist threat from Islam. The irony of both sides shouting
"Allah Akhbar" and "With God on Our Side" as they kill each other has been
noted since the original crusades. It's still happening.
On Radio4 here in the UK we get a theist spot in the morning news.
Christians calling for restraint on both sides and understanding between
religions. Sickening! Not able to see that they are part of the problem.
It's ALL religion, not just islam. Perhaps the one good thing to come out of
all this, when it's finally over. Might just be that the majority will see
that it is theism that is the problem.
Could this period we are in be the last throes of religion?

I don't know. IMO, as long as there is inequality-there will be
religion. I've noticed that most of the nations that are truly secular
in nature are educated and wealthy. It also seems that religions are
growing larger, mostly by replacing aboriginal nature worship in
cultures just beginning to stratify (due to `modernization' of
technology). For example, consider Africa. More and more people give up
life on the land due to war and unfair trade practices. They move to
the cities, and inequality inevitably ensues. Who's wating for them
there, as they despair?
Priests, that's who. One of our regular trolls here points out that
Christianity is the fastest growing religion on Earth. He's right, but
not for the reasons he thinks he is. Christianity and Islam are growing
like mad among the portions of the world where technologies such as
indoor plumbing is just a silly dream. IMO, we'll never rid the world
of religion until we start working on some of these greater humanistic
problems.
OTOH, I hope Europe gives `em such a fit that it'll no longer be
considered polite to speak of religion in a democratic society! <g>
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	08 Feb 2006 11:52:02 AM

On 7 Feb 2006 23:35:36 -0800, "Panama Floyd" <panamaflyd@aol.com> wrote
in alt.atheism

Les Hemmings wrote:

Chris Johnson wrote:

The beginning of World War I was nearly as silly.

I think we were.

I don't know. IMO, as long as there is inequality-there will be
religion. I've noticed that most of the nations that are truly secular
in nature are educated and wealthy. It also seems that religions are
growing larger, mostly by replacing aboriginal nature worship in
cultures just beginning to stratify (due to `modernization' of
technology). For example, consider Africa. More and more people give up
life on the land due to war and unfair trade practices. They move to
the cities, and inequality inevitably ensues. Who's wating for them
there, as they despair?

Priests, that's who. One of our regular trolls here points out that
Christianity is the fastest growing religion on Earth. He's right, but
not for the reasons he thinks he is. Christianity and Islam are growing
like mad among the portions of the world where technologies such as
indoor plumbing is just a silly dream. IMO, we'll never rid the world
of religion until we start working on some of these greater humanistic
problems.

The focus would then shift to more and more nitnoy things.

OTOH, I hope Europe gives `em such a fit that it'll no longer be
considered polite to speak of religion in a democratic society! <g>

Not just Europe. I've been trying, in my small way, to give them *****
fits.
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at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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User: "Uncle Buck"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 02:52:28 PM

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:50:49 -0000, "Les Hemmings"
<les.frontalclaire@lobesvirgin.net> wrote:
<snip>

Could this period we are in be the last throes of religion?

No. It's just Islam going through what Christianity went through a few hundred
years ago. Christianity is still here today, Islam will still be here tomorrow.
--
L8r,
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User: "Gods Creator"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 09:30:40 PM

Uncle Buck wrote:

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:50:49 -0000, "Les Hemmings"
<les.frontalclaire@lobesvirgin.net> wrote:

<snip>

Could this period we are in be the last throes of religion?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-02-05-cartoon-lebanon_x.htm

No. It's just Islam going through what Christianity went through a few hundred
years ago. Christianity is still here today, Islam will still be here tomorrow.
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
************************************************
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to create anything other than its exact equal."
************************************************

Bonus sig:
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*Thus spake God's Creator*
Islam is about as old as Christianity, and there have been
hundreds of religions.
And none have phases or cycles.
As long as there are mentally deficient, ignorant, or uneducated
people there will be those who will take advantage of them,
and they will invariably cause suffering on all mankind.
I hope mankind will never see the maximum limits of the evil
religions are truly capable of.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-02-05-cartoon-lebanon_x.htm
If the earth is ever destroyed, some religion will be some
part of its destruction.
God's Creator!
( *that was my only sin* )
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User: "Uncle Buck"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 09:46:37 PM

On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 03:30:40 GMT, God's Creator <Why_Are_Gods_@Always.Bro.Ke>
wrote:

Uncle Buck wrote:

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:50:49 -0000, "Les Hemmings"
<les.frontalclaire@lobesvirgin.net> wrote:

<snip>

Could this period we are in be the last throes of religion?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-02-05-cartoon-lebanon_x.htm

No. It's just Islam going through what Christianity went through a few hundred
years ago. Christianity is still here today, Islam will still be here tomorrow.

<snip>

Islam is about as old as Christianity, and there have been
hundreds of religions.

-Just- hundreds? Man, what _have_ these people been *doing* all this time?
{:-O

And none have phases or cycles.

Quite the opposite, really. _Everything_ has phases and cycles.

As long as there are mentally deficient, ignorant, or uneducated
people there will be those who will take advantage of them,
and they will invariably cause suffering on all mankind.

No doubt about that. :-/

I hope mankind will never see the maximum limits of the evil
religions are truly capable of.

Ditto.

If the earth is ever destroyed, some religion will be some
part of its destruction.

Probably, although being obliterated by an asteroid the size of Mars wouldn't be
very religiously linked.
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
************************************************
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to create anything other than its exact equal."
************************************************
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"Every Buddha just needs some Buddha to love..."
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	07 Feb 2006 12:29:16 PM

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 22:46:37 -0500, Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 03:30:40 GMT, God's Creator <Why_Are_Gods_@Always.Bro.Ke>
wrote:

Uncle Buck wrote:

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:50:49 -0000, "Les Hemmings"
<les.frontalclaire@lobesvirgin.net> wrote:

<snip>

Could this period we are in be the last throes of religion?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-02-05-cartoon-lebanon_x.htm

No. It's just Islam going through what Christianity went through a few hundred
years ago. Christianity is still here today, Islam will still be here tomorrow.

<snip>

Islam is about as old as Christianity, and there have been
hundreds of religions.

-Just- hundreds? Man, what _have_ these people been *doing* all this time?

{:-O

And none have phases or cycles.

Quite the opposite, really. _Everything_ has phases and cycles.

As long as there are mentally deficient, ignorant, or uneducated
people there will be those who will take advantage of them,
and they will invariably cause suffering on all mankind.

No doubt about that. :-/

I hope mankind will never see the maximum limits of the evil
religions are truly capable of.

Ditto.

If the earth is ever destroyed, some religion will be some
part of its destruction.

Probably, although being obliterated by an asteroid the size of Mars wouldn't be
very religiously linked.

*Never* underestimate Betty Bowers.....
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User: "Uncle Buck"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	07 Feb 2006 05:41:54 PM

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:29:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 22:46:37 -0500, Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

<snip>

...being obliterated by an asteroid the size of Mars wouldn't be very
religiously linked.

*Never* underestimate Betty Bowers.....

ROTFL!!! :-)
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	08 Feb 2006 11:47:12 AM

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 18:41:54 -0500, Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 10:29:16 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 22:46:37 -0500, Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

<snip>

...being obliterated by an asteroid the size of Mars wouldn't be very
religiously linked.

*Never* underestimate Betty Bowers.....

ROTFL!!! :-)

[grin]
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	07 Feb 2006 12:18:54 PM

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 18:44:22 +0100, Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in
alt.atheism

I suspect the big losers in all this will be the muslim people.
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User: "Uncle Vic"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 01:36:49 PM

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Rune B (nobody@nowhere.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:

If this doesn't show the world how dangerous religion is, nothing ever
will.
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Uncle Vic
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User: "David Canzi -- non-mailable"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	06 Feb 2006 11:28:51 AM

In article <Xns9761760112Evicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:

If this doesn't show the world how dangerous religion is, nothing ever
will.

Nothing ever will. Every religious person will easily believe
that some other religion is dangerous, but never his own.
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User: "Uncle Buck"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 02:49:53 PM

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:36:49 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:

If this doesn't show the world how dangerous religion is, nothing ever
will.

We've already had the Crusades and that only made it worse. I'm not sure it's
going to matter much just because it's televised this time around.
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User: "Uncle Vic"
Title: Re: Mohammed cartoon news	05 Feb 2006 05:22:01 PM

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Uncle Buck
(UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:36:49 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:

If this doesn't show the world how dangerous religion is, nothing ever
will.

We've already had the Crusades and that only made it worse. I'm not
sure it's going to matter much just because it's televised this time
around. --

The Christians toss off the Crusades because, like the Inquisition, it
happened in another era. It's a bagpipes kind of thing, ya know.
--
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