Religions > Atheism > Money That Was Supposed to Go to New Orleans to Rebuild Levees Was Used For Phony War
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01 Sep 2005 08:49:17 PM |
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Money That Was Supposed to Go to New Orleans to Rebuild Levees Was Used For Phony War |
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=7131
Bush hates America and Americans. That's a certainty.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Money That Was Supposed to Go to New Orleans to Rebuild Levees Was Used For Phony War |
10 Sep 2005 08:19:55 AM |
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In <jhachm-0DEF4A.22323709092005@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <RtOdnWlcaIhcvb3eRVn-jw@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <jhachm-8E8D9F.23311907092005@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <PoGdnX8W3PORuILeRVn-rg@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In episode <11hu7v5qrr1e23a@corp.supernews.com>, WCB burst into the
room and exclaimed:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In episode <1126055476.7be73a29187f871d8f9ff7ef9060a588@teranews>,
Fred Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:WLidncYEB7bgtYPeRVn-2A@megapath.net:
In episode
<1125964847.a87854bee3e4e3c9f7e0760e97f41a44@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
They were reorganized. And anyway, that's irrelevant to the
fact that NOLA tried to put the whole burden on FEMA after they
realized that they were inadequately prepared for the
first-responder role.
Funny, we told FEMA on Friday that we couldn't handle the job
alone. I mean, *we told *them.
Friday was a bit late to be coming to that realization.
So Blanco was supposed to declare a state of emergency in January?
By the time they
started calling for help it was *far* too late for FEMA to pick
up that role.
Friday before landfall was "too late" for FEMA to act? Is there
some sort of time warp going on?
To get people and supplies into the city for the disaster
response? Yes, Mark, it was too late for that.
You mean FEMA is unable to get supplies *after a disaster? What
the ***** are they for then? And what's going to happen if there's
a terrorist attack?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspecial/05blame.html?e
i=5
090&en=1d14ebfbd942a7d0&ex=1283572800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewan
ted
=prin
Far from deferring to state or local officials, FEMA asserted its
authority and made things worse, Mr. Broussard complained on "Meet
the Press."
When Wal-Mart sent three trailer trucks loaded with water, FEMA
officials turned them away, he said. Agency workers prevented the
Coast Guard from delivering 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel, and on
Saturday they cut the parish's emergency communications line,
leading the sheriff to restore it and post armed guards to protect
it from FEMA, Mr. Broussard said.
That one freaks me out a little. Why would they be cutting *any
communication line *at *all? Talk about conspiracy theory time.
You know, people around here *are spreading unfortunate rumors that
our communications are being kept down on purpose. Officials have
been trying to squash the rumors but then you hear FEMA actually *cut
communication lines and you get a chill...
It appears that they are trying to censor the news too. According to
this they don't want the media showing pictures of bodies:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050907/ts_nm/censorship_dc;_ylt=AoHmo_cG1dlu
dfmp5MgNPiVZ.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
or:
http://tinyurl.com/8qcg8
We're apparently being "managed" now.
Really. Be good little children and do as you're told. Remember, Big
Brother knows best.
Can't let the help get too uppity. You *know how *those people are...
Right. If we give into them, next ting they'll want to vote!
Don't worry! They're dispersing those "blue" types all over the place so
their effect in 2006 will be diluted...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Money That Was Supposed to Go to New Orleans to Rebuild Levees Was Used For Phony War |
11 Sep 2005 01:34:17 AM |
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In article <3L-dnVKuhfzzQL_eRVn-1w@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <jhachm-0DEF4A.22323709092005@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <RtOdnWlcaIhcvb3eRVn-jw@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <jhachm-8E8D9F.23311907092005@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <PoGdnX8W3PORuILeRVn-rg@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In episode <11hu7v5qrr1e23a@corp.supernews.com>, WCB burst into the
room and exclaimed:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In episode <1126055476.7be73a29187f871d8f9ff7ef9060a588@teranews>,
Fred Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:WLidncYEB7bgtYPeRVn-2A@megapath.net:
In episode
<1125964847.a87854bee3e4e3c9f7e0760e97f41a44@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
They were reorganized. And anyway, that's irrelevant to the
fact that NOLA tried to put the whole burden on FEMA after they
realized that they were inadequately prepared for the
first-responder role.
Funny, we told FEMA on Friday that we couldn't handle the job
alone. I mean, *we told *them.
Friday was a bit late to be coming to that realization.
So Blanco was supposed to declare a state of emergency in January?
By the time they
started calling for help it was *far* too late for FEMA to pick
up that role.
Friday before landfall was "too late" for FEMA to act? Is there
some sort of time warp going on?
To get people and supplies into the city for the disaster
response? Yes, Mark, it was too late for that.
You mean FEMA is unable to get supplies *after a disaster? What
the ***** are they for then? And what's going to happen if there's
a terrorist attack?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspecial/05blame.htm
l?e
i=5
090&en=1d14ebfbd942a7d0&ex=1283572800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&page
wan
ted
=prin
Far from deferring to state or local officials, FEMA asserted its
authority and made things worse, Mr. Broussard complained on "Meet
the Press."
When Wal-Mart sent three trailer trucks loaded with water, FEMA
officials turned them away, he said. Agency workers prevented the
Coast Guard from delivering 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel, and on
Saturday they cut the parish's emergency communications line,
leading the sheriff to restore it and post armed guards to protect
it from FEMA, Mr. Broussard said.
That one freaks me out a little. Why would they be cutting *any
communication line *at *all? Talk about conspiracy theory time.
You know, people around here *are spreading unfortunate rumors that
our communications are being kept down on purpose. Officials have
been trying to squash the rumors but then you hear FEMA actually *cut
communication lines and you get a chill...
It appears that they are trying to censor the news too. According to
this they don't want the media showing pictures of bodies:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050907/ts_nm/censorship_dc;_ylt=AoHmo_cG1dlu
dfmp5MgNPiVZ.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
or:
http://tinyurl.com/8qcg8
We're apparently being "managed" now.
Really. Be good little children and do as you're told. Remember, Big
Brother knows best.
Can't let the help get too uppity. You *know how *those people are...
Right. If we give into them, next ting they'll want to vote!
Don't worry! They're dispersing those "blue" types all over the place so
their effect in 2006 will be diluted...
Yews. I didn't get the number, but we have a number of evacuees here in
San Diego. One person chartered a plane and and brought a
whole planeload. they are staying at various hotels and prIvate homes. I
wonder how many will go back Same goes for other places too.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Money That Was Supposed to Go to New Orleans to Rebuild Levees Was Used For Phony War |
10 Sep 2005 08:17:54 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:31:19 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <PoGdnX8W3PORuILeRVn-rg@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In episode <11hu7v5qrr1e23a@corp.supernews.com>, WCB burst into the room
and exclaimed:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In episode <1126055476.7be73a29187f871d8f9ff7ef9060a588@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:WLidncYEB7bgtYPeRVn-2A@megapath.net:
In episode <1125964847.a87854bee3e4e3c9f7e0760e97f41a44@teranews>,
Fred Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
They were reorganized. And anyway, that's irrelevant to the fact that
NOLA tried to put the whole burden on FEMA after they realized that
they were inadequately prepared for the first-responder role.
Funny, we told FEMA on Friday that we couldn't handle the job alone. I
mean, *we told *them.
Friday was a bit late to be coming to that realization.
So Blanco was supposed to declare a state of emergency in January?
By the time they
started calling for help it was *far* too late for FEMA to pick up
that role.
Friday before landfall was "too late" for FEMA to act? Is there some
sort of time warp going on?
To get people and supplies into the city for the disaster response?
Yes, Mark, it was too late for that.
You mean FEMA is unable to get supplies *after a disaster? What the *****
are they for then? And what's going to happen if there's a terrorist
attack?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspecial/05blame.html?ei=5
090&en=1d14ebfbd942a7d0&ex=1283572800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted
=prin
Far from deferring to state or local officials, FEMA asserted its
authority and made things worse, Mr. Broussard complained on "Meet the
Press."
When Wal-Mart sent three trailer trucks loaded with water, FEMA officials
turned them away, he said. Agency workers prevented the Coast Guard from
delivering 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel, and on Saturday they cut the
parish's emergency communications line, leading the sheriff to restore it
and post armed guards to protect it from FEMA, Mr. Broussard said.
That one freaks me out a little. Why would they be cutting *any
communication line *at *all? Talk about conspiracy theory time.
You know, people around here *are spreading unfortunate rumors that our
communications are being kept down on purpose. Officials have been trying
to squash the rumors but then you hear FEMA actually *cut communication
lines and you get a chill...
It appears that they are trying to censor the news too. According to
this they don't want the media showing pictures of bodies:
Of course not. And for the same reason not to show the bodies coming
in from Iraq.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050907/ts_nm/censorship_dc;_ylt=AoHmo_cG1dlu
dfmp5MgNPiVZ.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
or:
http://tinyurl.com/8qcg8
FEMA accused of censorship
By Deborah Zabarenko Wed Sep 7, 4:27 PM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - When U.S. officials asked the media not to take
pictures of those killed by Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath, they
were censoring a key part of the disaster story, free speech watchdogs
said on Wednesday.
The move by the Federal Emergency Management Agency is in line with
the Bush administration's ban on images of flag-draped U.S. military
coffins returning from the Iraq war, media monitors said in separate
telephone interviews.
"It's impossible for me to imagine how you report a story whose
subject is death without allowing the public to see images of the
subject of the story," said Larry Siems of the PEN American Center, an
authors' group that defends free expression.
U.S. newspapers, television outlets and Web sites have featured
pictures of shrouded corpses and makeshift graves in New Orleans.
But on Tuesday, FEMA refused to take reporters and photographers along
on boats seeking victims in flooded areas, saying they would take up
valuable space need in the recovery effort and asked them not to take
pictures of the dead.
In an e-mail explaining the decision, a FEMA spokeswoman wrote: "The
recovery of victims is being treated with dignity and the utmost
respect and we have requested that no photographs of the deceased by
made by the media."
Efforts to recover bodies continued on Wednesday. Out in the city's
filthy waters, rescue teams tied bodies to trees or fences when they
found them and noted the location for later recovery before carrying
on in search of survivors.
Rebecca Daugherty of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press
found this stance inexplicable.
"The notion that, when there's very little information from FEMA, that
they would even spend the time to be concerned about whether the
reporting effort is up to its standards of taste is simply
mind-boggling," Daugherty said. "You cannot report on the disaster and
give the public a realistic idea of how horrible it is if you don't
see that there are bodies as well."
'INVITATION TO CHAOS'
FEMA's policy of excluding media from recovery expeditions in New
Orleans is "an invitation to chaos," according to Tom Rosenstiel,
director of the Project for Excellence in Journalism, a part of
Columbia University's journalism school.
"This is about managing images and not public taste or human dignity,"
Rosenstiel said. He said FEMA's refusal to take journalists along on
recovery missions meant that media workers would go on their own.
Rosenstiel also noted that U.S. media, especially U.S. television
outlets, are generally reluctant to show corpses.
"By and large, American television is the most sanitized television in
the world," he said. "They are less likely to show bodies, they are
less likely to show graphic images of the dead than any television in
the world."
There is also a question of what the American PEN Center's Siems
called "international equity," noting that American news outlets cover
stories around the world showing the effects of natural disasters and
wars in graphic detail.
"How is the world going to look at us if we go into their part of the
world and we broadcast these images and we do not allow ourselves to
look at such images when they're right in our own midst?" Siems said.
Mark Tapscott, a former editor at the Washington Times newspaper who
now deals with media issues at the Heritage Foundation, said the FEMA
decision did not amount to censorship.
"Let's not make a common decency issue into a censorship issue,"
Tapscott said. "Nobody wants to wake up in the morning and see their
dead uncle on the front page. That's just common decency."
An improvised grave marks the body of a woman on a street in the
aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans, Louisiana, September 4,
2005. FEMA asked media not to take pictures of those killed by the
hurricane, a move in line with the Bush administration's ban on images
of flag-drapped U.S. military coffins returning from the Iraq war,
media monitors said in separate telephone interviews Wednesday.
(Shannon Stapleton/Reuters)
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| Title: Re: Money That Was Supposed to Go to New Orleans to Rebuild Levees Was Used For Phony War |
10 Sep 2005 08:10:11 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:22:40 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In episode <1126055476.7be73a29187f871d8f9ff7ef9060a588@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:WLidncYEB7bgtYPeRVn-2A@megapath.net:
In episode <1125964847.a87854bee3e4e3c9f7e0760e97f41a44@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
They were reorganized. And anyway, that's irrelevant to the fact that
NOLA tried to put the whole burden on FEMA after they realized that
they were inadequately prepared for the first-responder role.
Funny, we told FEMA on Friday that we couldn't handle the job alone. I
mean, *we told *them.
Friday was a bit late to be coming to that realization.
So Blanco was supposed to declare a state of emergency in January?
By the time they
started calling for help it was *far* too late for FEMA to pick up that
role.
Friday before landfall was "too late" for FEMA to act? Is there some
sort of time warp going on?
To get people and supplies into the city for the disaster response? Yes,
Mark, it was too late for that.
You mean FEMA is unable to get supplies *after a disaster? What the *****
are they for then? And what's going to happen if there's a terrorist
attack?
Peals of mirth.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Money That Was Supposed to Go to New Orleans to Rebuild Levees Was Used For Phony War |
07 Sep 2005 08:20:10 PM |
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On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 21:49:17 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=7131
Bush hates America and Americans. That's a certainty.
September 1, 2005
How New Orleans Was Lost
by Paul Craig Roberts
Chalk up the city of New Orleans as a cost of Bush's Iraq war.
There were not enough helicopters to repair the breached levees and
rescue people trapped by rising water. Nor are there enough Louisiana
National Guardsmen available to help with rescue efforts and to patrol
against looting.
The situation is the same in Mississippi.
The National Guard and helicopters are off on a fool's mission in
Iraq.
The National Guard is in Iraq because fanatical neoconservatives in
the Bush administration were determined to invade the Middle East and
because incompetent Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld refused to listen to
the generals, who told him there were not enough regular troops
available to do the job.
After the invasion, the arrogant Rumsfeld found out that the generals
were right. The National Guard was called up to fill in the gaping
gaps.
Now the Guardsmen, trapped in the Iraqi quagmire, are watching on TV
the families they left behind trapped by rising waters and wondering
if the floating bodies are family members. None know where their
dislocated families are, but, shades of Fallujah, they do see their
destroyed homes.
The mayor of New Orleans was counting on helicopters to put in place
massive sandbags to repair the levee. However, someone called the few
helicopters away to rescue people from rooftops. The rising water
overwhelmed the massive pumping stations, and New Orleans disappeared
under deep water.
What a terrible casualty of the Iraqi war – one of our oldest and most
beautiful cities, a famous city, a historic city.
Distracted by its phony war on terrorism, the U.S. government had made
no preparations in the event Hurricane Katrina brought catastrophe to
New Orleans. No contingency plan existed. Only now after the disaster
are FEMA and the Corps of Engineers trying to assemble the material
and equipment to save New Orleans from the fate of Atlantis.
Even worse, articles in the New Orleans Times-Picayune and public
statements by emergency management chiefs in New Orleans make it clear
that the Bush administration slashed the funding for the Corps of
Engineers' projects to strengthen and raise the New Orleans levees and
diverted the money to the Iraq war.
Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, told
the New Orleans Times-Picayune (June 8, 2004): "It appears that the
money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland
security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay.
Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are
doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue
for us."
Why can't the U.S. government focus on America's needs and leave other
countries alone? Why are American troops in Iraq instead of protecting
our own borders from a mass invasion by illegal immigrants? Why are
American helicopters blowing up Iraqi homes instead of saving American
homes in New Orleans?
How can the Bush administration be so incompetent as to expose
Americans at home to dire risks by exhausting American resources in
foolish foreign adventures? What kind of "homeland security" is this?
All Bush has achieved by invading Iraq is to kill and wound thousands
of people while destroying America's reputation. The only
beneficiaries are oil companies capitalizing on a good excuse to jack
up the price of gasoline and Osama bin Laden's recruitment.
What we have is a Republican war for oil company profits while New
Orleans sinks beneath the waters.
* * * * *
On the day Katrina devastated New Orleans, America lost its most
optimistic pundit, Jude Wanniski, who died of a heart attack at age
69. Jude often misplaced his optimism, but he was never without it.
Jude never gave up on anyone and would invest his persuasive talents
on everyone who would listen and even on those who wouldn't. Jude was
not an economist, but he understood long before most economists that
fiscal policy changed incentives and affected aggregate supply in
contrast to the Keynesian emphasis on aggregate demand. Jude rose to
fame as the publicist for supply-side economics. As a journalist, he
was a natural. Robert Bartley, the Wall Street Journal editorial page
editor, once told me that Jude had the best nose for news of any
journalist he had ever known. Those he favored with his missives will
miss his insights.
Find this article at:
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=7131
Copyright 2003 Antiwar.com
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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