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"Jason Spaceman" |
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01 Mar 2005 09:51:46 PM |
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Moonie Press: Atheism worldwide in decline |
From the article:
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By Uwe Siemon-Netto
GURAT, France, March 1 (UPI) -- There seems to be a growing consensus
around the globe that godlessness is in trouble. "Atheism as a
theoretical position is in decline worldwide," Munich theologian
Wolfhart Pannenberg told United Press International Tuesday.
His Oxford colleague Alister McGrath agrees. Atheism's "future seems
increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than
in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat," he wrote
in the U.S. magazine, Christianity Today.
Two developments are plaguing atheism these days. One is that it
appears to be losing its scientific underpinnings. The other is the
historical experience of hundreds of millions of people worldwide that
atheists are in no position to claim the moral high ground.
Writes Turkish philosopher Harun Yahya, "Atheism, which people have
tried to for hundreds of years as 'the ways of reason and science,' is
proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance."
As British philosopher Anthony Flew, once as hard-nosed a humanist as
any, mused when turning his back on his former belief: It is, for
example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one
single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the
Encyclopedia Britannica put together.
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
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Read it at
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2005/02/28/Features/Atheism.Worldwide.In.Decline-881763.shtml
J. Spaceman
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02 Mar 2005 12:50:31 AM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
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From the article:
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By Uwe Siemon-Netto
GURAT, France, March 1 (UPI) -- There seems to be a growing consensus
around the globe that godlessness is in trouble. "Atheism as a
theoretical position is in decline worldwide,"
....And if you really, really, really believe in fairies with all your might,
Tinkerbell will come back to life! Believe children....believe really
hard!!
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02 Mar 2005 08:57:54 AM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:5uda21dovcd9bem16emudvq470vp8nqs0j@4ax.com...
From the article:
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By Uwe Siemon-Netto
GURAT, France, March 1 (UPI) -- There seems to be a growing consensus
around the globe that godlessness is in trouble. "Atheism as a
theoretical position is in decline worldwide," Munich theologian
Wolfhart Pannenberg told United Press International Tuesday.
His Oxford colleague Alister McGrath agrees. Atheism's "future seems
increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than
in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat," he wrote
in the U.S. magazine, Christianity Today.
Ignoring the fact that everyone on the planet with half a brain is an
atheist, since whatever they believe in can't be God.
Two developments are plaguing atheism these days. One is that it
appears to be losing its scientific underpinnings. The other is the
historical experience of hundreds of millions of people worldwide that
atheists are in no position to claim the moral high ground.
No wonder since there isn't any such thing as a moral high ground.
Writes Turkish philosopher Harun Yahya, "Atheism, which people have
tried to for hundreds of years as 'the ways of reason and science,' is
proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance."
As a Moslem he must be an authority on everything.
As British philosopher Anthony Flew, once as hard-nosed a humanist as
any, mused when turning his back on his former belief: It is, for
example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one
single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the
Encyclopedia Britannica put together.
How come people would rather read the encyclopedia then?
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
In my home town there was a private Baptist school called the Bethel Bible
school. They were found to have been beating the children with sticks.
Bethel is pronounced Beat Hell, as in beat the Hell out of the children.
--
The argument that everything had a Creator because it's too complicated, is
about as reasonable as saying that it couldn't have been created since it's
too complicated.
It's about like saying that a super flea created a dog. Then
the good fleas go to a great dog in the sky, while the bad unbelieving fleas
are scratched off into a super rug to be forever hungry. If you think dogs
weren't created by a Great Flea then you are an afleaist.
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01 Mar 2005 10:26:01 PM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:5uda21dovcd9bem16emudvq470vp8nqs0j@4ax.com...
From the article:
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By Uwe Siemon-Netto
GURAT, France, March 1 (UPI) -- There seems to be a growing consensus
around the globe that godlessness is in trouble. "Atheism as a
theoretical position is in decline worldwide," Munich theologian
Wolfhart Pannenberg told United Press International Tuesday.
His Oxford colleague Alister McGrath agrees. Atheism's "future seems
increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than
in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat," he wrote
in the U.S. magazine, Christianity Today.
Two developments are plaguing atheism these days. One is that it
appears to be losing its scientific underpinnings. The other is the
historical experience of hundreds of millions of people worldwide that
atheists are in no position to claim the moral high ground.
Writes Turkish philosopher Harun Yahya, "Atheism, which people have
tried to for hundreds of years as 'the ways of reason and science,' is
proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance."
As British philosopher Anthony Flew, once as hard-nosed a humanist as
any, mused when turning his back on his former belief: It is, for
example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one
single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the
Encyclopedia Britannica put together.
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
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Read it at
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2005/02/28/Features/Atheism.Worldwide.In.Decline-881763.shtml
J. Spaceman
Of course, they have no studies or statistics to back up this claim, except
for a vague reference to "1200 studies" that allegedly demonstrated that
faith healing works. The studies conducted in the U.S. have been thoroughly
debunked, of course:
http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/001283.html
http://www.valleyskeptic.com/Prayer_Study_Flawed_and_Fraud.html
This headline is based only on the word of a Lutheran Theologian. As if
that were reliable.
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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01 Mar 2005 10:30:43 PM |
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Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> writes:
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
And has since recanted, saying he was "mis-taught" (can't he say
"lied to?") by an IDist with an agenda.
Elf
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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01 Mar 2005 10:45:56 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> writes:
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
And has since recanted, saying he was "mis-taught" (can't he say
"lied to?") by an IDist with an agenda.
Do we know who the IDist was?
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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01 Mar 2005 11:18:27 PM |
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(Bobby D. Bryant) writes:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> writes:
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
And has since recanted, saying he was "mis-taught" (can't he say
"lied to?") by an IDist with an agenda.
Do we know who the IDist was?
"I have been mistaught by Gerald Schroeder... It was precisely because
he appeared to be so well qualified as a physicist (which I am not) that
I was never inclined to question what he said about physics."
-- Anthony Flew, letter to Richard Carrier, January, 2005
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=369
Elf
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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01 Mar 2005 11:47:16 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
bdbryant@mail.utexas.edu (Bobby D. Bryant) writes:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> writes:
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
And has since recanted, saying he was "mis-taught" (can't he say
"lied to?") by an IDist with an agenda.
Do we know who the IDist was?
"I have been mistaught by Gerald Schroeder... It was precisely because
he appeared to be so well qualified as a physicist (which I am not) that
I was never inclined to question what he said about physics."
-- Anthony Flew, letter to Richard Carrier, January, 2005
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=369
Thanks.
Trainwreckologists can find out more at http://www.geraldschroeder.com/
Interestingly, his Age of the Universe link shows him to be a
"Relativistic Day-Ager", i.e. he thinks the creation only took six
days but due to relativity and expanding space it *looks* like
billions of years from our perspective. (He supports his claim with a
bit of Applied Numerology; I'm going to see if the same argument will
let me have a cake and eat it.)
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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| User: "catshark" |
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02 Mar 2005 05:46:02 AM |
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On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 05:47:16 +0000 (UTC), (Bobby D.
Bryant) wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
(Bobby D. Bryant) writes:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote:
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> writes:
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
And has since recanted, saying he was "mis-taught" (can't he say
"lied to?") by an IDist with an agenda.
Do we know who the IDist was?
"I have been mistaught by Gerald Schroeder... It was precisely because
he appeared to be so well qualified as a physicist (which I am not) that
I was never inclined to question what he said about physics."
-- Anthony Flew, letter to Richard Carrier, January, 2005
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=369
Thanks.
Trainwreckologists can find out more at http://www.geraldschroeder.com/
Interestingly, his Age of the Universe link shows him to be a
"Relativistic Day-Ager", i.e. he thinks the creation only took six
days but due to relativity and expanding space it *looks* like
billions of years from our perspective. (He supports his claim with a
bit of Applied Numerology; I'm going to see if the same argument will
let me have a cake and eat it.)
Cakeologists can learn more about the technique here:
Not a Very Big Bang About Genesis
<http://www.talkreason.org/articles/schroeder.cfm>
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J. Pieret
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To what ridiculous theories will men of science be
led by attempting to reconcile science to scripture!
- Alfred Russel Wallace -
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| User: "George Evans" |
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03 Mar 2005 01:00:28 AM |
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in article 871xaybrf0.fsf@drizzle.com, Elf M. Sternberg at
wrote on 3/1/05 8:30 PM:
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> writes:
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
And has since recanted, saying he was "mis-taught" (can't he say
"lied to?") by an IDist with an agenda.
You a multiple antecedents up there. Who? By whom? About what?
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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03 Mar 2005 10:46:13 AM |
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George Evans <georgee3@earthlink.net> writes:
in article 871xaybrf0.fsf@drizzle.com, Elf M. Sternberg at
wrote on 3/1/05 8:30 PM:
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept...
And has since recanted, saying he was "mis-taught" (can't he say
"lied to?") by an IDist with an agenda.
You a multiple antecedents up there. Who? By whom? About what?
I believe I already answered this question upthread, but in case you
missed it:
"I have been mistaught by Gerald Schroeder... It was precisely because
he appeared to be so well qualified as a physicist (which I am not) that
I was never inclined to question what he said about physics."
-- Anthony Flew, letter to Richard Carrier, January, 2005
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=369
Elf
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02 Mar 2005 12:22:28 PM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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By Uwe Siemon-Netto
GURAT, France, March 1 (UPI) -- There seems to be a growing consensus
around the globe that godlessness is in trouble. "Atheism as a
theoretical position is in decline worldwide," Munich theologian
Wolfhart Pannenberg told United Press International Tuesday.
His Oxford colleague Alister McGrath agrees. Atheism's "future seems
increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than
in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat," he wrote
in the U.S. magazine, Christianity Today.
Two developments are plaguing atheism these days. One is that it
appears to be losing its scientific underpinnings. The other is the
historical experience of hundreds of millions of people worldwide that
atheists are in no position to claim the moral high ground.
Writes Turkish philosopher Harun Yahya, "Atheism, which people have
tried to for hundreds of years as 'the ways of reason and science,' is
proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance."
As British philosopher Anthony Flew, once as hard-nosed a humanist as
any, mused when turning his back on his former belief: It is, for
example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one
single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the
Encyclopedia Britannica put together.
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
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Read it at
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2005/02/28/Features/Atheism.Worldwide.In.Decline-881763.shtml
J. Spaceman
The Secular Web devotes its article of the month to addressing McGrath:
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=387
Look under kiosk if the link doesn't work.
Tom Faller
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| User: "Lt. Kizhe Catson" |
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02 Mar 2005 08:11:44 AM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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By Uwe Siemon-Netto
GURAT, France, March 1 (UPI) -- There seems to be a growing consensus
around the globe that godlessness is in trouble. "Atheism as a
theoretical position is in decline worldwide," Munich theologian
Wolfhart Pannenberg told United Press International Tuesday.
It may of course, be true that atheism is statistically on the wane.
Does the full article quote any relaible numbers, or are we suppsoed to
take the Moonies' word for it?
His Oxford colleague Alister McGrath agrees. Atheism's "future seems
increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than
in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat," he wrote
in the U.S. magazine, Christianity Today.
Two developments are plaguing atheism these days. One is that it
appears to be losing its scientific underpinnings. The other is the
historical experience of hundreds of millions of people worldwide that
atheists are in no position to claim the moral high ground.
And neither is religion. So?
Writes Turkish philosopher Harun Yahya, "Atheism, which people have
tried to for hundreds of years as 'the ways of reason and science,' is
proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance."
Now Harun Yahya is a "philosopher"?! <derisive snort>
"Islamic-fundamentalist, anti-semitic, recycling American Creationist
garbage, nut-job" would be more in the ballpark.
As British philosopher Anthony Flew, once as hard-nosed a humanist as
any, mused when turning his back on his former belief: It is, for
example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one
single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the
Encyclopedia Britannica put together.
OK, this is a new twist on the Flew story: did he really say stupid
things about the EB while under the influence of misinformation? Or are
they putting words in his mouth.
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
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Read it at
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2005/02/28/Features/Atheism.Worldwide.In.Decline-881763.shtml
-- Kizhe
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02 Mar 2005 08:40:13 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 09:11:44 -0500, "Lt. Kizhe Catson"
<lt.kizhe@gmail.com> wrote:
Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
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By Uwe Siemon-Netto
GURAT, France, March 1 (UPI) -- There seems to be a growing consensus
around the globe that godlessness is in trouble. "Atheism as a
theoretical position is in decline worldwide," Munich theologian
Wolfhart Pannenberg told United Press International Tuesday.
Then Pannenberg is being stupid.
These morons should address what atheism actually is, and not their
religion's fabrication based on premises that don't even apply to
people outside it.
It may of course, be true that atheism is statistically on the wane.
Does the full article quote any relaible numbers, or are we suppsoed to
take the Moonies' word for it?
They imagine that the majority determines what reality is.
His Oxford colleague Alister McGrath agrees. Atheism's "future seems
increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than
in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat," he wrote
in the U.S. magazine, Christianity Today.
McGrath is a liar attacking a strawman.
Like most theists he is woefully ignorant about what atheism is and
what it isn't, and can't grasp the real world outside his religion,
where his deity is merely one of hundreds of different deity beliefs -
no matter how real he imagines it is inside his religion. His
doctrinal presumptions about it don't even apply to us.
Two developments are plaguing atheism these days. One is that it
appears to be losing its scientific underpinnings. The other is the
historical experience of hundreds of millions of people worldwide that
atheists are in no position to claim the moral high ground.
What "Scientific underpinnings?
The writer is either an idiot or a liar. Doesn't matter which, the
result is the same.
And neither is religion. So?
Writes Turkish philosopher Harun Yahya, "Atheism, which people have
tried to for hundreds of years as 'the ways of reason and science,' is
proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance."
Now Harun Yahya is a "philosopher"?! <derisive snort>
"Islamic-fundamentalist, anti-semitic, recycling American Creationist
garbage, nut-job" would be more in the ballpark.
Calling him a philosopher is meant to grant him unjustified authority.
But like the rest of them, he is either a liar or an idiot attacking a
fabrication rather than accept what it actually means to be atheist.
As British philosopher Anthony Flew, once as hard-nosed a humanist as
any, mused when turning his back on his former belief: It is, for
example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one
single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the
Encyclopedia Britannica put together.
These can only be deliberate falsehoods by the writer.
OK, this is a new twist on the Flew story: did he really say stupid
things about the EB while under the influence of misinformation? Or are
they putting words in his mouth.
They are.
Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced
the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who
only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist
colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly
respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.
More deliberate falsehoods.
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Read it at
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2005/02/28/Features/Atheism.Worldwide.In.Decline-881763.shtml
-- Kizhe
These liars write for an audience of believers who trust what they
say, and are ignorant of the real world and the people in it.
And the audience is stupid enough and nasty enough to repeat these
falsehoods to the very people being lied about.
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02 Mar 2005 04:55:38 AM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
As British philosopher Anthony Flew, once as hard-nosed a humanist as
any, mused when turning his back on his former belief: It is, for
example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one
single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the
Encyclopedia Britannica put together.
http://www.rationalistinternational.net/archive/en/rationalist_2004/138.html
There are lies, damned lies, statistics, ad hominem, strawmen and theist
propaganda, in that order and on a logarithmic scale of disingenuousness.
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David Silverman F.L.A.H.N.
aa #2208
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11 Mar 2005 07:39:20 PM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
Writes Turkish philosopher Harun Yahya, "Atheism, which people have
tried to for hundreds of years as 'the ways of reason and science,'
is
proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance."
Harun Yahya, eh? Looks like the Moonies are still scraping
the bottom of the barrel for "sources".
That statement, coming from a advocate of Holocaust "revisionism"
and creationism, would be too damn funny for words if it wasn't
actually *believed* by so many people.
-Chris Krolczyk
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01 Mar 2005 10:43:10 PM |
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On 01 Mar 2005, Jason Spaceman dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
GURAT, France, March 1 (UPI) -- There seems to be a growing consensus
around the globe that godlessness is in trouble.
My godlessness is not in trouble. I'm as godless today as I was when I was
born. So are all the religious people in the world, but they are as
clueless as a three-dollar bill, so who cares?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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11 Mar 2005 07:40:33 PM |
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Vic Sagerquist wrote:
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
You say that like that's a *bad* thing. >:)
-Chris Krolczyk
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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01 Mar 2005 10:45:04 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005, Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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By Uwe Siemon-Netto
GURAT, France, March 1 (UPI) -- There seems to be a growing consensus
around the globe that godlessness is in trouble. "Atheism as a
theoretical position is in decline worldwide," Munich theologian
Wolfhart Pannenberg told United Press International Tuesday.
His Oxford colleague Alister McGrath agrees. Atheism's "future seems
increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than
in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat," he wrote
in the U.S. magazine, Christianity Today.
Two developments are plaguing atheism these days. One is that it
appears to be losing its scientific underpinnings.
Atheism, like theism, never *had* any scientific underpinnings.
<snip rest of lame spin>
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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