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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date: 29 May 2005 12:08:56 AM
Object: More Abortions, Less Crime
Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with lousy
mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn into a
life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.
Against your own children.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1654 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.

User: "bam"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 29 May 2005 01:21:33 PM
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:5dji91lg2mq5d073044cd6j4bdtju4e56m@4ax.com...

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with lousy
mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn into a
life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.

Against your own children.

So, Mr. Jackass, you are advocating a "nip it in the bud" solution, i.e.,
kill all unwanted babies in the womb.
How do you know one of these unwnated babies might not make a great medical
discovery?
You jackass.
BAM
.
User: "Kathy"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 29 May 2005 01:45:22 PM
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
news:KEnme.36224$lQ3.7047@bignews5.bellsouth.net...


"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:5dji91lg2mq5d073044cd6j4bdtju4e56m@4ax.com...

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with lousy
mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn into a
life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.

Against your own children.


So, Mr. Jackass, you are advocating a "nip it in the bud" solution, i.e.,
kill all unwanted babies in the womb.

How do you know one of these unwnated babies might not make a great

medical

discovery?

You jackass.

BAM


Or could be the next Charles Manson or Karla Homolka.
Kathy aa #1802
.

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 29 May 2005 02:05:01 PM
On Sun, 29 May 2005 14:21:33 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:5dji91lg2mq5d073044cd6j4bdtju4e56m@4ax.com...

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with lousy
mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn into a
life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.

Against your own children.


So, Mr. Jackass, you are advocating a "nip it in the bud" solution, i.e.,
kill all unwanted babies in the womb.

So, Hitler (who was also against abortion), I am saying that let women
who do not want to be mother not be one because their kids will end up
killing yours.

How do you know one of these unwnated babies might not make a great medical
discovery?

And how many Jews would we have saved is Hiitler had been aborted?

You jackass.

BAM

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1655 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.
User: "bam"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 29 May 2005 03:10:19 PM
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote

So, Hitler (who was also against abortion), I am saying that let women
who do not want to be mother not be one because their kids will end up
killing yours.

You Jackass.

And how many Jews would we have saved is Hiitler had been aborted?

You Jackass.
BAM
.
User: "Kathy"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 29 May 2005 04:05:57 PM
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
news:0jpme.15867$6k7.1798@bignews4.bellsouth.net...


"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote

So, Hitler (who was also against abortion), I am saying that let women
who do not want to be mother not be one because their kids will end up
killing yours.


You Jackass.


And how many Jews would we have saved is Hiitler had been aborted?


You Jackass.

BAM

Well thought out and presented argument. I'm convinced. (twit)
.

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 29 May 2005 09:27:23 PM
On Sun, 29 May 2005 16:10:19 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote

So, Hitler (who was also against abortion), I am saying that let women
who do not want to be mother not be one because their kids will end up
killing yours.


You Jackass.

You Nazi


And how many Jews would we have saved is Hiitler had been aborted?


You Jackass.

You Nazi

BAM

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1655 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.




User: "Stephen"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 30 May 2005 06:22:53 AM

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with lousy
mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn into a
life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.

Let's carpetbomb Detroit; that'll drop the crime rate in America
dramatically.
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 30 May 2005 10:08:30 AM
On Mon, 30 May 2005 06:22:53 -0500, Stephen <knightinfwb@cox.net>
wrote:

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with lousy
mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn into a
life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.


Let's carpetbomb Detroit; that'll drop the crime rate in America
dramatically.

Let's start with Alabama, Georgia and Utah, that'll drop the number of
undergae mothers, credit defaults, beankruptcies, and mullets.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1655 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.

User: "Michael Calwell"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 30 May 2005 07:32:25 AM
Stephen wrote:

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with lousy
mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn into a
life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.



Let's carpetbomb Detroit; that'll drop the crime rate in America
dramatically.

Well, abortion's doing a pretty good job of killing off African Americans..
("choice", you see)
http://blackgenocide.org
"Between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 Blacks were lynched in the U.S. That
number is surpassed in less than 3 days by abortion.
1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous act
of abortion.
3 out of 5 pregnant African-American women will abort their child.
Since 1973 there has been over 13 million Black children killed and
their precious mothers victimized by the U.S. abortion industry.
In his Letter from a Birmingham Jail, Martin Luther King said, "The
early church brought an end to such things as INFANTICIDE." What would
Martin Luther King say to the church today?
The Rev. Jesse Jackson once said:
"That is why the Constitution called us three-fifths human and then
whites further dehumanized us by calling us 'niggers'. It was part of
the dehumanizing process. The first step was to distort the image of us
as human beings in order to justify that which they wanted to do and not
even feel like they had done anything wrong. Those advocates of taking
life prior to birth do not call it killing or murder, they call it
abortion. They further never talk about aborting a baby because that
would imply something human. Rather they talk about aborting the fetus.
Fetus sounds less than human and therefore abortion can be justified"."
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 30 May 2005 10:55:00 PM
"Michael Calwell" <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:429b0d81$0$22591$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...

Stephen wrote:

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with lousy
mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn into a
life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.



Let's carpetbomb Detroit; that'll drop the crime rate in America
dramatically.


Well, abortion's doing a pretty good job of killing off African
Americans..

("choice", you see)

[snip rest of drivel & lies]
One has nothing to do with the other, pathetic slob.
And even if it did, then why are their numbers steadily increasing?
.
User: "Michael Calwell"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 31 May 2005 01:37:58 PM
Susan Cohen wrote:


[snip rest of drivel & lies]

You mean snip the facts you don't like. So I'll repost them.
"Between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 Blacks were lynched in the U.S. That
number is surpassed in less than 3 days by abortion.
1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous act
of abortion.
3 out of 5 pregnant African-American women will abort their child.
Since 1973 there has been over 13 million Black children killed and
their precious mothers victimized by the U.S. abortion industry.
Margaret Sanger, who founded Planned Parenthood was a devout racist who
created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women
and others she deemed as undesirables of society she said, "Colored
people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated."
78% of PP clinics are in minority areas.
In his Letter from a Birmingham Jail, Martin Luther King said, "The
early church brought an end to such things as INFANTICIDE." What would
Martin Luther King say to the church today?
The Rev. Jesse Jackson once said:
"That is why the Constitution called us three-fifths human and then
whites further dehumanized us by calling us 'niggers'. It was part of
the dehumanizing process. The first step was to distort the image of us
as human beings in order to justify that which they wanted to do and not
even feel like they had done anything wrong. Those advocates of taking
life prior to birth do not call it killing or murder, they call it
abortion. They further never talk about aborting a baby because that
would imply something human. Rather they talk about aborting the fetus.
Fetus sounds less than human and therefore abortion can be justified"."
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 31 May 2005 10:18:03 PM
Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote:

Susan Cohen wrote:


[snip rest of drivel & lies]


You mean snip the facts you don't like. So I'll repost them.

You'll report your lies and hate.

"Between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 Blacks were lynched in the U.S. That
number is surpassed in less than 3 days by abortion.

In reality the number of blacks lynched because of abortion is exactly
zero.

1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous act
of abortion.

The number is actually zero.
Not that you care who dies. All you care about is making people
suffer.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.



User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 30 May 2005 12:32:46 PM
Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote:

Stephen wrote:

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with lousy
mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn into a
life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.



Let's carpetbomb Detroit; that'll drop the crime rate in America
dramatically.


Well, abortion's doing a pretty good job of killing off African Americans..

And yet, according to the US Census, they still have more children
than do whites.
Typical of Calwell's evil, he will resort to any lie, no matter how
bigoted, racist, or destructive in order to promote his agenda of
theocratic dictatorship.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Jez"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 30 May 2005 04:52:45 PM
Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in
news:429b0d81$0$22591$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk:

Stephen wrote:

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with
lousy mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn
into a life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.



Let's carpetbomb Detroit; that'll drop the crime rate in America
dramatically.


Well, abortion's doing a pretty good job of killing off African
Americans..

("choice", you see)

http://blackgenocide.org

"Between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 Blacks were lynched in the U.S. That
number is surpassed in less than 3 days by abortion.

1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous act
of abortion.

So women are mere 'breeding drones' in your world then is it ?
Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can or
can't do with HER OWN BODY.
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn

.
User: "Malcolm"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 31 May 2005 05:08:09 PM
"Jez" <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote


Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can or
can't do with HER OWN BODY.

If women totally accepted the consequences of what they do with their own
bodies, then maybe you would have a point.
So the state would provide no maternity leave, social security, free
schooling. No medical care for children or nursery places. The father could
contribute money if he wanted to but would be under no obligation to do so.
But most women don't want to live in this sort of society. They want other
people to share the consequences of their decisions. So it is only
reasonable that in return society should exert some control over what women
do with their own bodies.
.
User: "Jez"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 01 Jun 2005 10:36:53 AM
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:d7in86$ea3$8@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:


"Jez" <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote


Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can
or can't do with HER OWN BODY.

If women totally accepted the consequences of what they do with their
own bodies, then maybe you would have a point.

LOL ! You speak as if you have !

So the state would provide no maternity leave, social security, free
schooling.

as every tax payer pays into the state, why fucking not ?
Better than handing out our money to the fucking corporations.

No medical care for children or nursery places. The father
could contribute money if he wanted to but would be under no
obligation to do so.

But most women don't want to live in this sort of society. They want
other people to share the consequences of their decisions. So it is
only reasonable that in return society should exert some control over
what women do with their own bodies.

And you say that as if you KNEW anything about women !
***** you sick little religious *****.
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn

.
User: "Michael Calwell"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 01 Jun 2005 01:27:03 PM
Jez wrote:

"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:d7in86$ea3$8@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:


"Jez" <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote

Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can
or can't do with HER OWN BODY.


If women totally accepted the consequences of what they do with their
own bodies, then maybe you would have a point.



LOL ! You speak as if you have !



So the state would provide no maternity leave, social security, free
schooling.


as every tax payer pays into the state, why fucking not ?
Better than handing out our money to the fucking corporations.


No medical care for children or nursery places. The father
could contribute money if he wanted to but would be under no
obligation to do so.

But most women don't want to live in this sort of society. They want
other people to share the consequences of their decisions. So it is
only reasonable that in return society should exert some control over
what women do with their own bodies.



And you say that as if you KNEW anything about women !

***** you sick little religious *****.

It just gets better.
.
User: "Jez"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 01 Jun 2005 02:52:16 PM
Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in news:429e03a8
$0$22622$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk:

Jez wrote:

"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:d7in86$ea3$8@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:

And you say that as if you KNEW anything about women !

***** you sick little religious *****.


It just gets better.

No, it just gets depressing to think there are morons such as yourself in
this world.
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn

.



User: "junegill"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 01 Jun 2005 04:00:23 AM
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d7in86$ea3$8@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...


"Jez" <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote


Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can or
can't do with HER OWN BODY.

If women totally accepted the consequences of what they do with their own
bodies, then maybe you would have a point.
So the state would provide no maternity leave, social security, free
schooling. No medical care for children or nursery places. The father

could

contribute money if he wanted to but would be under no obligation to do

so.


But most women don't want to live in this sort of society. They want other
people to share the consequences of their decisions. So it is only
reasonable that in return society should exert some control over what

women

do with their own bodies.

It isn't reasonable at all! It's society as a whole, not just women, that
sees the sense in looking after children. As Winston Churchill said, "There
is no finer investment for any community than putting milk into babies."
Take away maternity leave, social security, free schooling, medical care and
nursery places and the birth-rate would plummet and the abortion rate soar,
and then there would be a population crisis. In the 1950s France had a bit
of a population crisis and they very sensibly introduced financial
inducements to couples to have children, and that's what the pro-life
movement should be doing if they're so hell-bent on reducing the abortion
rate. Society should go down on its knees to thank women for going through
hell to bring the next generation into the world instead of treating them as
simpletons who don't know how to avoid pregnancy, and murderers if they're
not willing to carry to term.
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
.

User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 31 May 2005 05:37:40 PM
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d7in86$ea3$8@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...


"Jez" <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote


Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can or
can't do with HER OWN BODY.

If women totally accepted the consequences of what they do with their own
bodies, then maybe you would have a point.
So the state would provide no maternity leave, social security, free
schooling. No medical care for children or nursery places. The father
could contribute money if he wanted to but would be under no obligation to
do so.

But most women don't want to live in this sort of society. They want other
people to share the consequences of their decisions. So it is only
reasonable that in return society should exert some control over what
women do with their own bodies.

As soon as what women do with their bodies has anything to do with you,
we'll let you know.
I wouldn't hold your breath.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "Pat Winstanley"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 31 May 2005 06:48:17 PM
In article <d7in86$ea3$8@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
regniztar@btinternet.com says...

If women totally accepted the consequences of what they do with their own
bodies, then maybe you would have a point.

They do.
However one of the consequences of becoming pregnant is that the
pregnancy terminates without producing a child. The other is that it
terminates producing a child.
Both are common consequences of pregnancy. As long as the woman accepts
that at least one of those consequences will occur should she become
pregnant then there is no problem in that respect; she will be
acceopting the consequences of her part (whether voluntary or not) in
the actions which led to the pregnancy in the first place.
Problem solved.
.
User: "MLL"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 01 Jun 2005 09:35:03 PM
Pat Winstanley wrote:


In article <d7in86$ea3$8@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
regniztar@btinternet.com says...

If women totally accepted the consequences of what they do with their own
bodies, then maybe you would have a point.


They do.

However one of the consequences of becoming pregnant is that the
pregnancy terminates without producing a child. The other is that it
terminates producing a child.

Are you totally stupid?


Both are common consequences of pregnancy. As long as the woman accepts
that at least one of those consequences will occur should she become
pregnant then there is no problem in that respect; she will be
acceopting the consequences of her part (whether voluntary or not) in
the actions which led to the pregnancy in the first place.

Problem solved.

And women who give birth and then dump the baby are also accepting the
consequences.
"Both are the consequences of birth"
Retard.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 02 Jun 2005 08:01:00 AM
"MLL" <jkh@hj.hjk> wrote in message news:429E7057.6C90EDBF@hj.hjk...

Pat Winstanley wrote:


In article <d7in86$ea3$8@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
regniztar@btinternet.com says...

If women totally accepted the consequences of what they do with their

own

bodies, then maybe you would have a point.


They do.

However one of the consequences of becoming pregnant is that the
pregnancy terminates without producing a child. The other is that it
terminates producing a child.


Are you totally stupid?


Both are common consequences of pregnancy. As long as the woman accepts
that at least one of those consequences will occur should she become
pregnant then there is no problem in that respect; she will be
acceopting the consequences of her part (whether voluntary or not) in
the actions which led to the pregnancy in the first place.

Problem solved.


And women who give birth and then dump the baby are also accepting the
consequences.

Accepting the consequences? Sounds more like they're getting rid of it
without any consequences and leaving behind a child to grow up without a
history.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 02 Jun 2005 08:04:20 AM
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"MLL" <jkh@hj.hjk> wrote in message news:429E7057.6C90EDBF@hj.hjk...

Pat Winstanley wrote:

However one of the consequences of becoming pregnant is that the
pregnancy terminates without producing a child. The other is that it
terminates producing a child.


Are you totally stupid?


Both are common consequences of pregnancy. As long as the woman accepts
that at least one of those consequences will occur should she become
pregnant then there is no problem in that respect; she will be
acceopting the consequences of her part (whether voluntary or not) in
the actions which led to the pregnancy in the first place.

Problem solved.


And women who give birth and then dump the baby are also accepting the
consequences.


Accepting the consequences? Sounds more like they're getting rid of it
without any consequences and leaving behind a child to grow up without a
history.

Hmmm. Children are the punishment. What's the crime?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 31 May 2005 05:11:13 PM
Malcolm wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote

Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can or
can't do with HER OWN BODY.


If women totally accepted the consequences of what they do with their own
bodies, then maybe you would have a point.
So the state would provide no maternity leave, social security, free
schooling. No medical care for children or nursery places. The father could
contribute money if he wanted to but would be under no obligation to do so.

But most women don't want to live in this sort of society. They want other
people to share the consequences of their decisions. So it is only
reasonable that in return society should exert some control over what women
do with their own bodies.

So, a woman gets pregnant all by herself, does she?
.


User: "Michael Calwell"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 31 May 2005 01:34:53 PM
Jez wrote:

Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in
news:429b0d81$0$22591$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk:


Stephen wrote:

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids when
they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids with
lousy mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to turn
into a life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.



Let's carpetbomb Detroit; that'll drop the crime rate in America
dramatically.


Well, abortion's doing a pretty good job of killing off African
Americans..

("choice", you see)

http://blackgenocide.org

"Between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 Blacks were lynched in the U.S. That
number is surpassed in less than 3 days by abortion.

1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous act
of abortion.



So women are mere 'breeding drones' in your world then is it ?

Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can or
can't do with HER OWN BODY.

Ah, the sophistication. You tell women wht to do with their bodies all
the time.
.
User: "Jez"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 01 Jun 2005 10:34:48 AM
Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in
news:429cb3fa$0$11944$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk:

Jez wrote:

Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in
news:429b0d81$0$22591$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk:


Stephen wrote:

Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids
when they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids
with lousy mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to
turn into a life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.



Let's carpetbomb Detroit; that'll drop the crime rate in America
dramatically.


Well, abortion's doing a pretty good job of killing off African
Americans..

("choice", you see)

http://blackgenocide.org

"Between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 Blacks were lynched in the U.S. That
number is surpassed in less than 3 days by abortion.

1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous
act of abortion.



So women are mere 'breeding drones' in your world then is it ?

Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can
or can't do with HER OWN BODY.


Ah, the sophistication. You tell women wht to do with their bodies all
the time.

Nope, I don't.
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn

.
User: "Michael Calwell"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 01 Jun 2005 01:26:31 PM
Jez wrote:

Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in
news:429cb3fa$0$11944$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk:


Jez wrote:

Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in
news:429b0d81$0$22591$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk:



Stephen wrote:


Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids
when they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids
with lousy mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to
turn into a life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.



Let's carpetbomb Detroit; that'll drop the crime rate in America
dramatically.


Well, abortion's doing a pretty good job of killing off African
Americans..

("choice", you see)

http://blackgenocide.org

"Between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 Blacks were lynched in the U.S. That
number is surpassed in less than 3 days by abortion.

1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous
act of abortion.



So women are mere 'breeding drones' in your world then is it ?

Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can
or can't do with HER OWN BODY.


Ah, the sophistication. You tell women wht to do with their bodies all
the time.



Nope, I don't.

Yes you do.
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 01 Jun 2005 02:03:17 PM
In article <429e0389$0$22622$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk> Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote:


Jez wrote:

Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in
news:429cb3fa$0$11944$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk:


Jez wrote:

Michael Calwell <michael.calwell@btopenworld.com> wrote in
news:429b0d81$0$22591$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk:



Stephen wrote:


Just remember, the TheoCons, by forcing women to have have kids
when they don't want to, are bringing up an entire group of kids
with lousy mothers and absernt fathers making them more likely to
turn into a life of crime, of robberies, carjacking, murder, rapes,
drive-by-shooting etc.



Let's carpetbomb Detroit; that'll drop the crime rate in America
dramatically.


Well, abortion's doing a pretty good job of killing off African
Americans..

("choice", you see)

http://blackgenocide.org

"Between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 Blacks were lynched in the U.S. That
number is surpassed in less than 3 days by abortion.

1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous
act of abortion.



So women are mere 'breeding drones' in your world then is it ?

Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she can
or can't do with HER OWN BODY.


Ah, the sophistication. You tell women wht to do with their bodies all
the time.



Nope, I don't.


Yes you do.

He does? I must have overlooked that. What does Jez tell
women to do with their bodies, and where did he tell them
that?
-- cary
.
User: "Jez"

Title: Re: More Abortions, Less Crime 01 Jun 2005 02:50:48 PM
(Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:d7l0pl$g6h$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:

Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she
can or can't do with HER OWN BODY.


Ah, the sophistication. You tell women wht to do with their bodies
all the time.



Nope, I don't.


Yes you do.



He does? I must have overlooked that. What does Jez tell
women to do with their bodies, and where did he tell them
that?

I didn't, I said...
'Who the ***** are you retards to tell a woman, any woman, what she
can or can't do with HER OWN BODY.'
But we don't really expect a Christian to be anything other than a lying
piece of ***** now do we ?
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn

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