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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"
Date: 21 Aug 2004 11:42:49 PM
Object: More Conservatives Jumping off of Bush's Sinking Ship Part LI (Special Michael Moore Edition)
"I am a senior in college in Mobile, AL. I want you to know that I
voted for Bush 4 years ago and have been an avid believer that,
although it was difficult for me to support the war, I should trust in
Bush's decisions. I have often believed that I should have faith in my
leaders--that they know more than I ever could about our situation and
that I shouldn't doubt their ability, especially if I took the time to
vote for them. I have come to understand the veil I have lived behind
for these 4 years.
I didn't want to go see your movie--I assumed it was a Bush-bashing
attempt at getting a new guy in office, with no facts or truth behind
it. I was guessing that it would be a one-man show--one guy's opinion
that happened to be big enough to share with the world. I was wrong,
obviously, and I have to say that I am simply grounded in the
knowledge that you have let me know what I need to know.
…I cannot say that I am in favor of Kerry--his politics do not seem to
be any more truthful than what Bush's appear to be now. But, for the
first time since I have been of age to vote, I have realized the
importance of my vote. I have realized that my decision is
paramount--that leaders I may choose in the future have the power to
send my friends, family, my fiancé into war over their own interests.
I don't and have never agreed with war--I have never actually had the
thought process I felt tonight while watching your movie, yet for some
reason, your ideas were not unfamiliar to me. It was almost as if I
knew the corruption, the reasons we were there…it all seemed to be
closer to my mind than I had expected.
I cannot thank you enough--Americans have needed truth and
honesty...we have needed someone to stand up and shout--to kill the
illusion of purpose we have been living under for the last year &
half. If anything, I'd say that this election year will be the most
trying time for every American--we will be watching the fate of our
lives in one night and I, for one, am choosing to save lives by
avoiding Bush's box."
C.W.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=132
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -957 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.

User: "Hanoi Jane Fonda"

Title: MICHAEL MOORE/O'REILLY SHOWDOWN (Does Michael Moore understand the definition of a lie.....?????) 22 Aug 2004 01:11:13 AM
MICHAEL MOORE/O'REILLY SHOWDOWN (Does Michael Moore understand the
definition of a lie.....?????)
http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc4.htm
"O'Reilly: The issues… alright good, now, one of the issues is you
because you've been calling Bush a liar on weapons of mass
destruction, the senate intelligence committee, Lord Butler's
investigation in Britain, and now the 911 Commission have all come out
and said there was no lying on the part of President Bush. Plus,
Gladimir Putin has said his intelligence told Bush there were weapons
of mass destruction. Wanna apologize to the president now or later?
M: He didn't tell the truth, he said there were weapons of mass
destruction.
O: Yeah, but he didn't lie, he was misinformed by - all of those
investigations come to the same conclusion, that's not a
lie................
O: Just the issues. You've got three separate investigations plus the
president of Russia all saying… British intelligence, US intelligence,
Russian intelligence, told the president there were weapons of mass
destruction, you say, "he lied." This is not a lie if you believe it
to be true, now he may have made a mistake, which is obvious -
M: Well, that's almost pathological - I mean, many criminals believe
what they say is true, they could pass a lie detector test -
O: Alright, now you're dancing around a question -
M: No I'm not, there's no dancing
O: He didn't lie
M: He said something that wasn't true
O: Based upon bad information given to him by legitimate sources"
-----------
(http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lie):
"lie:
A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.
To present false information with the intention of deceiving. To
convey a false image or impression: Appearances often lie."
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Liberals Hate America!
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User: "Jorge W. Arbusto"

Title: Re: MICHAEL MOORE/O'LIELLY SHOWDOWN (Does Michael Moore understand the definition of a lie. Yep 22 Aug 2004 07:36:58 AM
"Hanoi Jane Fonda" <hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote in message
news:67egi0ljasetdqd9qu027eqt3cfets2ns5@4ax.com...

MICHAEL MOORE/O'REILLY SHOWDOWN (Does Michael Moore understand the
definition of a lie.....?????)




"O'Reilly: The issues. alright good, now, one of the issues is you
because you've been calling Bush a liar on weapons of mass
destruction, the senate intelligence committee, Lord Butler's
investigation in Britain, and now the 911 Commission have all come out
and said there was no lying on the part of President Bush. Plus,
Gladimir Putin has said his intelligence told Bush there were weapons
of mass destruction. Wanna apologize to the president now or later?

M: He didn't tell the truth, he said there were weapons of mass
destruction.

O: Yeah, but he didn't lie, he was misinformed by - all of those
investigations come to the same conclusion, that's not a
lie................

O: Just the issues. You've got three separate investigations plus the
president of Russia all saying. British intelligence, US intelligence,
Russian intelligence, told the president there were weapons of mass
destruction, you say, "he lied." This is not a lie if you believe it
to be true, now he may have made a mistake, which is obvious -

M: Well, that's almost pathological - I mean, many criminals believe
what they say is true, they could pass a lie detector test -

O: Alright, now you're dancing around a question -

M: No I'm not, there's no dancing

O: He didn't lie

M: He said something that wasn't true

O: Based upon bad information given to him by legitimate sources"

-----------
(http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lie):
"lie:
A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

To present false information with the intention of deceiving. To
convey a false image or impression: Appearances often lie."

So, in other words, the Shrub is too stupid to lie...


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Neocon Whores Hate America!



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User: "GWB"

Title: Re: MICHAEL MOORE/O'LIELLY SHOWDOWN (Does Michael Moore understand the definition of a lie. Yep 22 Aug 2004 09:37:06 AM
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:36:58 GMT, "Jorge W. Arbusto"
<IShovelShit@crawford.tx.com> wrote:


"Hanoi Jane Fonda" <hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote in message
news:67egi0ljasetdqd9qu027eqt3cfets2ns5@4ax.com...

MICHAEL MOORE/O'REILLY SHOWDOWN (Does Michael Moore understand the
definition of a lie.....?????)





"O'Reilly: The issues. alright good, now, one of the issues is you
because you've been calling Bush a liar on weapons of mass
destruction, the senate intelligence committee, Lord Butler's
investigation in Britain, and now the 911 Commission have all come out
and said there was no lying on the part of President Bush. Plus,
Gladimir Putin has said his intelligence told Bush there were weapons
of mass destruction. Wanna apologize to the president now or later?

M: He didn't tell the truth, he said there were weapons of mass
destruction.

O: Yeah, but he didn't lie, he was misinformed by - all of those
investigations come to the same conclusion, that's not a
lie................

O: Just the issues. You've got three separate investigations plus the
president of Russia all saying. British intelligence, US intelligence,
Russian intelligence, told the president there were weapons of mass
destruction, you say, "he lied." This is not a lie if you believe it
to be true, now he may have made a mistake, which is obvious -

M: Well, that's almost pathological - I mean, many criminals believe
what they say is true, they could pass a lie detector test -

O: Alright, now you're dancing around a question -

M: No I'm not, there's no dancing

O: He didn't lie

M: He said something that wasn't true

O: Based upon bad information given to him by legitimate sources"

-----------
(http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lie):
"lie:
A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

To present false information with the intention of deceiving. To
convey a false image or impression: Appearances often lie."

So, in other words, the Shrub is too stupid to lie...

Only when he's caught.
.


User: "Psalm 110"

Title: Re: MICHAEL MOORE/O'REILLY SHOWDOWN (Does Michael Moore understand the definition of a lie.....?????) 22 Aug 2004 06:22:00 PM
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 02:11:13 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote:
Fresh Links to Republican FELONY FRAUD SmearBoats villians
HOT NEWS! Exposing more on the Felony Fraud SwiftLiars Organized Crime
connections
LATEST NEWS - August 22, 2004
** http://tinyurl.com/639as veteran working to help re-elect incumbent
president George W. Bush resigned
** http://tinyurl.com/5w7by More Republican Ties Revealed Behind
"Swift Boat Vets For Bush"
** http://tinyurl.com/6wre9 Bush Campaign Drops Swift Boat Ad Figure
-- Cordier's connection to the Bush campaign was made public yesterday
by the Kerry campaign, which found that Cordier had been named on the
Bush Web site earlier this month as a member of the veterans committee
** http://tinyurl.com/4gs53 Cordier was SWFT and GOP operative at same
time. Kenneth Cordier, a retired colonel ... who appeared in an
advertisement to be aired by the anti-Kerry group, SWVT, would on
longer serve in his voluntary position on President George W. Bush's
veterans steering committee.
** http://tinyurl.com/5telj Republican Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas,
chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, said that while the
group had "every right" to express their opinion, "WE OUGHT TO GET OUT
OF THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION BUSINESS."
NEWS - August 21, 2004
**
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted=1
http://tinyurl.com/4r7a8
** http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4fyem Swift Boat Accounts Incomplete And Flawed
**
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/chi-040821rood,1,1611037.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6wvtm Anti-Kerry vets not there that day
**
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040821kerry,1,7582568.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6v4no Swift boat skipper: Kerry critics wrong --
Tribune editor breaks long silence on Kerry record; fought in disputed
battle
**
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/08/21/MNGE08C6V11.DTL
http://tinyurl.com/45xfx Kerry's Vietnam-era testimony criticized in
new attack ad -- Democrat counters with endorsement by retired general
** http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-camp21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4jjth Dems see link to Swift Boat Vets, Bush-Cheney
----------------------------------
*** George W. Bush - Closely tied to Merrie Spaeth's husband Tex
Lezar, benefitted from Bob Perry money, linked to Karl Rove, to
Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, to Regnery publishing, to Harlan Crow
http://tinyurl.com/4uc37GOOGLE.COM Results 220 for "George W. Bush"
Merrie Spaeth Tex Lezar.
http://tinyurl.com/54lqwGOOGLE.COM Results 257 for "George W. Bush"
"Tex Lezar".
http://tinyurl.com/6j2gdGOOGLE.COM Results 613 for "George W. Bush"
"Bob Perry"".
*** Karl Rove - Closely linked to GW Bush, to Merrie Spaeth, to John
O'Neill, to Bob Perry, to Harlan Crow, to organized crime conspiracies
of Philip Morris
http://tinyurl.com/3hpjo
http://tobaccodocuments.org/ai_news/11015.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
http://tinyurl.com/5cmwh
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=19991108&s=dreyfuss
http://tinyurl.com/5gbbd
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=19991108&c=2&s=dreyfuss
http://tinyurl.com/5qcb2
http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc?tid=hfd83c00&fmt=tif&ref=results
http://tinyurl.com/6ocdyGOOGLE.COM Results 5,100 for "Karl Rove"
"Swift Boat".
http://tinyurl.com/69vjn
http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2041158396.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
http://tinyurl.com/5l2ee
http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2041158370.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
*** Merrie Spaeth (Tex Lezar) Linked to GW Bush, Linked to smears of
John McCain using same criminal fraud tactics, to Karl Rove, Bob
Perry, to Ken Starr, linked to organized crime tobacco conspiracies
http://tinyurl.com/64v3cGOOGLE.COM Results 814 for "Merrie Spaeth"
republican.
http://tinyurl.com/63zvuGOOGLE.COM Results 317 for "Merrie Spaeth"
"Tex Lezar".
http://tinyurl.com/43fekGOOGLE.COM Results 10 for "Tex Lezar" tobacco.
*** Roy F. Hoffmann, a retired rear admiral and a leader of the group
http://tinyurl.com/5h6za http://mediamatters.org/items/200406020006
http://tinyurl.com/3rx8z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060011
*** John E. O'Neill (Charles Colson apprentice) Linked to Nixon,
registered republican and donor, linked to Crow and Perry, to Corsi
and Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/4vrwqGOOGLE.COM Results 482 for "John E. O'Neill"
Colson.
http://tinyurl.com/496xl
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=John_E._O'Neill
*** Harlan Crow (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, to Perry AEI
board,
http://tinyurl.com/5afl5
http://www.aei.org/about/contentID.20038142214500073/default.asp
http://tinyurl.com/6l7vnGOOGLE.COM Results 113 for "Harlan Crow"
Holdings.
http://tinyurl.com/57oc8GOOGLE.COM Results 217 for "Harlan Crow"
swift.
*** Bob J. Perry (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, Rove, Crow
http://tinyurl.com/3oggt
http://okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=79&media_type=TEXT
http://tinyurl.com/6kasoGOOGLE.COM Results 1,630 for "Bob Perry"
swift.
*** Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, (SwillBoat Ad maker) Linked to
republican party, numerous republican polician campaigns
http://tinyurl.com/5z7ddGOOGLE.COM Results 43 for "Stevens Reed Curcio
& Potholm" swift.
http://tinyurl.com/6g7fc http://srcpmedia.com/corp2.html
http://tinyurl.com/55f4r http://srcpmedia.com/corp2.html
http://tinyurl.com/5uwlw http://srcpmedia.com/house.html
http://tinyurl.com/5nmv7 http://srcpmedia.com/senate.html
http://tinyurl.com/6xnut http://srcpmedia.com/work.html
*** Regnery, a conservative company linked to Richard Mellon Scaife
who manipulates best-seller book list rankings, to Ken Starr, to Corsi
and O'Neill
http://tinyurl.com/5qw2n http://www.phillips.com/eagle.htm
http://tinyurl.com/4zvy2
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Richard%20Scaife
http://tinyurl.com/6vbpf
http://www.prospect.org/print/V11/5/confessore-n.html
http://tinyurl.com/5szod http://www.americanreview.us/back32.htm
http://tinyurl.com/4ycqdGOOGLE.COM Results 146 for "Regnery
Publishing" Richard Mellon Scaife.
*** Jerome R. Corsi Linked to Richard Scaife, to O'Neill, to Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/5a83u http://mediamatters.org/items/200408120001
http://tinyurl.com/5l66z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408110007
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
http://tinyurl.com/4zkmo
http://www.salon.com/src/ads/house/gateway/tv_head_gateway.html?http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/08/06/mccain_on_swift_boat_veterans/index_np.html
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
*** Dr. Louis Letson
http://tinyurl.com/3sf73
http://www.fearofclowns.com/text/kerry_faked_first_purple_heart_debunked/
http://tinyurl.com/5atvt
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231
*** William L. Schachte Jr., a retired rear admiral
http://tinyurl.com/3wttr
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04228/361477.stm
http://tinyurl.com/65xuf
http://www.underzealous.com/index.php/2004/08/13/p522
*** Larry Thurlow, who said his boat was 50 to 60 yards from Mr.
Kerry's.
http://tinyurl.com/5m4dc
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/6fyu4
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/5mhcw
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i6344
The felony fraud organized crime ring is further connected to other
organiced crime fraud operations:
### Richard Mellon Scaife <http://tinyurl.com/5vdpe> is trumpetting it
from his publications. Scaife is historically linked to several of the
felons in the SwiftLiars crime ring. Scaife also funds a broad
coalition of websites and front organizations which are also promoting
this felony conspiracy though their own fraud crime operations:
Scaife thrall organization and Scaife leash-dollars put in it:
*** Heritage Foundation, $20,696,640 (Townhall.com)
http://tinyurl.com/6ng83 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 6,000 for
"Heritage Foundation" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
$5,201,000
http://tinyurl.com/68tqj GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,750 for
"American Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Spectator Educational Foundation, Inc. $4,144,000
http://tinyurl.com/3n92j GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for
"American Spectator" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Accuracy in Media, Inc. $3,225,000
http://tinyurl.com/3tg26 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,880 for
"Accuracy in Media" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $2,335,000
http://tinyurl.com/53kxs GOOGLE.COM Results Results about 2,590 for
"Citizens for a Sound Economy" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Cato Institute $1,872,500
http://tinyurl.com/6jrt7 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for "Cato
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Policy Analysis $1,760,000
http://tinyurl.com/4yyhy GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"National Center for Policy Analysis" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Independent Women's Forum $1,600,000
http://tinyurl.com/4j9ae GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,670 for
"Independent Women's Forum" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Competitive Enterprise Institute $1,525,000
http://tinyurl.com/585fn GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"Competitive Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Legislative Exchange Council $1,495,000
http://tinyurl.com/5kuo9 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,480 for
"American Legislative Exchange Council" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Defenders of Property Rights $965,000
http://tinyurl.com/4l3gc GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,440 for
"Defenders of Property Rights" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Research Center, Inc. $952,000
http://tinyurl.com/46hys GOOGLE.COM Results Results 5,240 for "Media
Research Center" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Institute for Humane Studies $950,000
http://tinyurl.com/3w7b3 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,450 for
"Institute for Humane Studies" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Public Policy Research, Inc. $825,000
http://tinyurl.com/59wll Google.com 2,610 for "National Center for
Public Policy Research" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Institute $645,000
http://tinyurl.com/6s7b4 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,200 for "Media
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Acton Institute For The Study of Religion and Liberty $565,000
http://tinyurl.com/6h98g GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,470 for "Acton
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
### Sun Myung Moon is another felony fraud conspirator using his
organized crime operation to advance his candidate who has a bilnd eye
to Moon's crimes. The WASHINGTON TIMES and UPI wireservice is Moonie
front operations. <
http://tinyurl.com/6nlt9>
***
http://tinyurl.com/55jrwGOOGLE.COM Results 42,600 for "Washington
Times" Swift boat OR Boats.
SUN MYUNG MOON uses "CHURCH PROPERTY", helps create 42,600 webpages
circulating LIES.

MICHAEL MOORE/O'REILLY SHOWDOWN (Does Michael Moore understand the
definition of a lie.....?????)



http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc4.htm

"O'Reilly: The issues… alright good, now, one of the issues is you
because you've been calling Bush a liar on weapons of mass
destruction, the senate intelligence committee, Lord Butler's
investigation in Britain, and now the 911 Commission have all come out
and said there was no lying on the part of President Bush. Plus,
Gladimir Putin has said his intelligence told Bush there were weapons
of mass destruction. Wanna apologize to the president now or later?

M: He didn't tell the truth, he said there were weapons of mass
destruction.

O: Yeah, but he didn't lie, he was misinformed by - all of those
investigations come to the same conclusion, that's not a
lie................

O: Just the issues. You've got three separate investigations plus the
president of Russia all saying… British intelligence, US intelligence,
Russian intelligence, told the president there were weapons of mass
destruction, you say, "he lied." This is not a lie if you believe it
to be true, now he may have made a mistake, which is obvious -

M: Well, that's almost pathological - I mean, many criminals believe
what they say is true, they could pass a lie detector test -

O: Alright, now you're dancing around a question -

M: No I'm not, there's no dancing

O: He didn't lie

M: He said something that wasn't true

O: Based upon bad information given to him by legitimate sources"

-----------
(http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lie):
"lie:
A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

To present false information with the intention of deceiving. To
convey a false image or impression: Appearances often lie."



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Liberals Hate America!


.
User: "Hanoi Jane Fonda"

Title: KERRY ATTACKS EDWARDS ON TAXES 22 Aug 2004 09:01:16 PM
KERRY ATTACKS EDWARDS ON TAXES
Kerry Attacked Edwards On Tax Policies. "In the dwindling days of the
Iowa campaign, however, Kerry will also take on two of his main
competitors, Dean and John Edwards. He'll challenge Dean, for
example, saying that the Iowa caucuses 'don't belong to the special
interests; they belong to you. I ask you to vote for answers, not
anger,' according to an advance copy of Kerry's text obtained by the
Grind. And Kerry will challenge Edwards, promising to close the
'outrageous tax loophole that allows wealthy business owners to
avoid paying their Medicare taxes.'" (CNN's "The Morning Grind,"
1/14/04)
http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=4355
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User: "Psalm110"

Title: Re: KERRY ATTACKS EDWARDS ON TAXES 23 Aug 2004 07:22:53 PM
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:01:16 -0400, blithering idiot Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> farted his opinion:
Fresh Links to Republican FELONY FRAUD SmearBoats villians
HOT NEWS! Exposing more on the Felony Fraud SwiftLiars Organized Crime
connections
LATEST NEWS - August 23, 2004
** http://tinyurl.com/3kt5v Silver Star incident: Langhofer, on other
boat, saw firing from both banks of a river.
** http://tinyurl.com/5bf5k Vets, others call for resignation of
prosecutor in SwiftLies ad
** http://tinyurl.com/63wmp Republican prosecutor Alfred French's lies
on affidavit about events he did not witness.
** http://tinyurl.com/65qsn Republican prosecuter's Anti-Kerry hearsay
is worthless.
August 22 or earlier:
** http://tinyurl.com/4e3y2 BusinessWeek: Flinging the Foul Mud of
Vietnam. John Kerry returned a hero. The smears his political enemies
are now flinging mark them -- not him -- as beneath contempt
** http://tinyurl.com/4yeu7 Kerry also picked up support from Wayne D.
Langhofer, who told The Washington Post he was manning a machine gun
in a boat behind Kerry's and saw firing from both banks of a river as
Kerry dived in to rescue Special Forces soldier James Rassmann, the
basis for Kerry's Bronze Star.
** http://tinyurl.com/6arcy Bush campaign admits "Cordier was a
supporter of the President during the 2000 election and served as a
member of the President's veterans' steering committee during this
election."
** http://tinyurl.com/44t3g Registered Republican SwillBoat Ad Shill
was not there.
** http://tinyurl.com/3rtwt SwillBoat prosecutors presents heresay as
if he was eyewitness.
** http://tinyurl.com/6ubnz SwillBoater claims he has no evidence
** http://tinyurl.com/639as SwiftLie vet working to help re-elect
incumbent president George W. Bush resigned
** http://tinyurl.com/5w7by More Republican Ties Revealed Behind
"Swift Boat Vets For Bush"
** http://tinyurl.com/6wre9 Bush Campaign Drops Swift Boat Ad Figure
-- Cordier's connection to the Bush campaign was made public yesterday
by the Kerry campaign, which found that Cordier had been named on the
Bush Web site earlier this month as a member of the veterans committee
** http://tinyurl.com/4gs53 Cordier was SWFT and GOP operative at same
time. Kenneth Cordier, a retired colonel ... who appeared in an
advertisement to be aired by the anti-Kerry group, SWVT, would on
longer serve in his voluntary position on President George W. Bush's
veterans steering committee.
** http://tinyurl.com/5telj Republican Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas,
chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, said that while the
group had "every right" to express their opinion, "WE OUGHT TO GET OUT
OF THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION BUSINESS."
NEWS - August 21, 2004
**
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted=1
http://tinyurl.com/4r7a8
** http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4fyem Swift Boat Accounts Incomplete And Flawed
**
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/chi-040821rood,1,1611037.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6wvtm Anti-Kerry vets not there that day
**
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040821kerry,1,7582568.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6v4no Swift boat skipper: Kerry critics wrong --
Tribune editor breaks long silence on Kerry record; fought in disputed
battle
**
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/08/21/MNGE08C6V11.DTL
http://tinyurl.com/45xfx Kerry's Vietnam-era testimony criticized in
new attack ad -- Democrat counters with endorsement by retired general
** http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-camp21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4jjth Dems see link to Swift Boat Vets, Bush-Cheney
----------------------------------
*** George W. Bush - Closely tied to Merrie Spaeth's husband Tex
Lezar, benefitted from Bob Perry money, linked to Karl Rove, to
Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, to Regnery publishing, to Harlan Crow
http://tinyurl.com/4uc37 GOOGLE.COM Results 220 for "George W. Bush"
Merrie Spaeth Tex Lezar.
http://tinyurl.com/54lqw GOOGLE.COM Results 257 for "George W. Bush"
"Tex Lezar".
http://tinyurl.com/6j2gd GOOGLE.COM Results 613 for "George W. Bush"
"Bob Perry"".
*** Karl Rove - Closely linked to GW Bush, to Merrie Spaeth, to John
O'Neill, to Bob Perry, to Harlan Crow, to organized crime conspiracies
of Philip Morris
http://tinyurl.com/3hpjo
http://tobaccodocuments.org/ai_news/11015.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
http://tinyurl.com/5cmwh
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=19991108&s=dreyfuss
http://tinyurl.com/5gbbd
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=19991108&c=2&s=dreyfuss
http://tinyurl.com/5qcb2
http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc?tid=hfd83c00&fmt=tif&ref=results
http://tinyurl.com/6ocdy GOOGLE.COM Results 5,100 for "Karl Rove"
"Swift Boat".
http://tinyurl.com/69vjn
http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2041158396.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
http://tinyurl.com/5l2ee
http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2041158370.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
*** Merrie Spaeth (Tex Lezar) Linked to GW Bush, Linked to smears of
John McCain using same criminal fraud tactics, to Karl Rove, Bob
Perry, to Ken Starr, linked to organized crime tobacco conspiracies
http://tinyurl.com/64v3c GOOGLE.COM Results 814 for "Merrie Spaeth"
republican.
http://tinyurl.com/63zvu GOOGLE.COM Results 317 for "Merrie Spaeth"
"Tex Lezar".
http://tinyurl.com/43fek GOOGLE.COM Results 10 for "Tex Lezar"
tobacco.
*** Roy F. Hoffmann, a retired rear admiral and a leader of the group
http://tinyurl.com/5h6za http://mediamatters.org/items/200406020006
http://tinyurl.com/3rx8z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060011
*** John E. O'Neill (Charles Colson apprentice) Linked to Nixon,
registered republican and donor, linked to Crow and Perry, to Corsi
and Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/4vrwq GOOGLE.COM Results 482 for "John E. O'Neill"
Colson.
http://tinyurl.com/496xl
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=John_E._O'Neill
*** Harlan Crow (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, to Perry AEI
board,
http://tinyurl.com/5afl5
http://www.aei.org/about/contentID.20038142214500073/default.asp
http://tinyurl.com/6l7vn GOOGLE.COM Results 113 for "Harlan Crow"
Holdings.
http://tinyurl.com/57oc8 GOOGLE.COM Results 217 for "Harlan Crow"
swift.
*** Bob J. Perry (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, Rove, Crow
http://tinyurl.com/3oggt
http://okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=79&media_type=TEXT
http://tinyurl.com/6kaso GOOGLE.COM Results 1,630 for "Bob Perry"
swift.
*** Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, (SwillBoat Ad maker) Linked to
republican party, numerous republican polician campaigns
http://tinyurl.com/5z7dd GOOGLE.COM Results 43 for "Stevens Reed
Curcio & Potholm" swift.
http://tinyurl.com/6g7fc http://srcpmedia.com/corp2.html
http://tinyurl.com/55f4r http://srcpmedia.com/corp2.html
http://tinyurl.com/5uwlw http://srcpmedia.com/house.html
http://tinyurl.com/5nmv7 http://srcpmedia.com/senate.html
http://tinyurl.com/6xnut http://srcpmedia.com/work.html
*** Regnery, a conservative company linked to Richard Mellon Scaife
who manipulates best-seller book list rankings, to Ken Starr, to Corsi
and O'Neill
http://tinyurl.com/5qw2n http://www.phillips.com/eagle.htm
http://tinyurl.com/4zvy2
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Richard%20Scaife
http://tinyurl.com/6vbpf
http://www.prospect.org/print/V11/5/confessore-n.html
http://tinyurl.com/5szod http://www.americanreview.us/back32.htm
http://tinyurl.com/4ycqd GOOGLE.COM Results 146 for "Regnery
Publishing" Richard Mellon Scaife.
*** Jerome R. Corsi Linked to Richard Scaife, to O'Neill, to Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/5a83u http://mediamatters.org/items/200408120001
http://tinyurl.com/5l66z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408110007
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
http://tinyurl.com/4zkmo
http://www.salon.com/src/ads/house/gateway/tv_head_gateway.html?http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/08/06/mccain_on_swift_boat_veterans/index_np.html
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
*** Dr. Louis Letson
http://tinyurl.com/3sf73
http://www.fearofclowns.com/text/kerry_faked_first_purple_heart_debunked/
http://tinyurl.com/5atvt
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231
*** William L. Schachte Jr., a retired rear admiral
http://tinyurl.com/3wttr
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04228/361477.stm
http://tinyurl.com/65xuf
http://www.underzealous.com/index.php/2004/08/13/p522
*** Larry Thurlow, who said his boat was 50 to 60 yards from Mr.
Kerry's.
http://tinyurl.com/5m4dc
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/6fyu4
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/5mhcw
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i6344
The felony fraud organized crime ring is further connected to other
organiced crime fraud operations:
### Richard Mellon Scaife <http://tinyurl.com/5vdpe> is trumpetting it
from his publications. Scaife is historically linked to several of the
felons in the SwiftLiars crime ring. Scaife also funds a broad
coalition of websites and front organizations which are also promoting
this felony conspiracy though their own fraud crime operations:
Scaife thrall organization and Scaife leash-dollars put in it:
*** Heritage Foundation, $20,696,640 (Townhall.com)
http://tinyurl.com/6ng83 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 6,000 for
"Heritage Foundation" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
$5,201,000
http://tinyurl.com/68tqj GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,750 for
"American Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Spectator Educational Foundation, Inc. $4,144,000
http://tinyurl.com/3n92j GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for
"American Spectator" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Accuracy in Media, Inc. $3,225,000
http://tinyurl.com/3tg26 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,880 for
"Accuracy in Media" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $2,335,000
http://tinyurl.com/53kxs GOOGLE.COM Results Results about 2,590 for
"Citizens for a Sound Economy" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Cato Institute $1,872,500
http://tinyurl.com/6jrt7 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for "Cato
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Policy Analysis $1,760,000
http://tinyurl.com/4yyhy GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"National Center for Policy Analysis" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Independent Women's Forum $1,600,000
http://tinyurl.com/4j9ae GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,670 for
"Independent Women's Forum" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Competitive Enterprise Institute $1,525,000
http://tinyurl.com/585fn GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"Competitive Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Legislative Exchange Council $1,495,000
http://tinyurl.com/5kuo9 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,480 for
"American Legislative Exchange Council" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Defenders of Property Rights $965,000
http://tinyurl.com/4l3gc GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,440 for
"Defenders of Property Rights" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Research Center, Inc. $952,000
http://tinyurl.com/46hys GOOGLE.COM Results Results 5,240 for "Media
Research Center" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Institute for Humane Studies $950,000
http://tinyurl.com/3w7b3 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,450 for
"Institute for Humane Studies" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Public Policy Research, Inc. $825,000
http://tinyurl.com/59wll Google.com 2,610 for "National Center for
Public Policy Research" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Institute $645,000
http://tinyurl.com/6s7b4 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,200 for "Media
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Acton Institute For The Study of Religion and Liberty $565,000
http://tinyurl.com/6h98g GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,470 for "Acton
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
### Sun Myung Moon is another felony fraud conspirator using his
organized crime operation to advance his candidate who has a bilnd eye
to Moon's crimes. The WASHINGTON TIMES and UPI wireservice is Moonie
front operations. <
http://tinyurl.com/6nlt9>
***
http://tinyurl.com/55jrwGOOGLE.COM Results 42,600 for "Washington
Times" Swift boat OR Boats.
SUN MYUNG MOON uses "CHURCH PROPERTY", helps create 42,600 webpages
circulating LIES.
* KERRY ATTACKS EDWARDS ON TAXES
*
* Kerry Attacked Edwards On Tax Policies. "In the dwindling days of
the
* Iowa campaign, however, Kerry will also take on two of his main
* competitors, Dean and John Edwards. He'll challenge Dean, for
* example, saying that the Iowa caucuses 'don't belong to the special
* interests; they belong to you. I ask you to vote for answers, not
* anger,' according to an advance copy of Kerry's text obtained by the
* Grind. And Kerry will challenge Edwards, promising to close the
* 'outrageous tax loophole that allows wealthy business owners to
* avoid paying their Medicare taxes.'" (CNN's "The Morning Grind,"
* 1/14/04)
*
*
* http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=4355
*
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User: "Hanoi Jane Fonda"

Title: "Hero" Kerry tried to put off Vietnam military duty 23 Aug 2004 08:23:54 PM
"Hero" Kerry tried to put off Vietnam military duty
Revealed: how 'war hero' Kerry tried to put off Vietnam military duty
By Charles Laurence in New York
Senator John Kerry, the presumed Democratic presidential candidate who
is trading on his Vietnam war record to campaign against President
George W Bush, tried to defer his military service for a year,
according to a newly rediscovered article in a Harvard University
newspaper.
He wrote to his local recruitment board seeking permission to spend a
further 12 months studying in Paris, after completing his degree
course at Yale University in the mid-1960s.
The revelation appears to undercut Sen Kerry's carefully-cultivated
image as a man who willingly served his country in a dangerous war -
in supposed contrast to President Bush, who served in the Texas
National Guard and thus avoided being sent to Vietnam.
The Harvard Crimson newspaper followed a youthful Mr Kerry in Boston
as he campaigned for Congress for the first time in 1970. In the
course of a lengthy article, "John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for
Congress", published on February 18, the paper reported: "When he
approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in
Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the
Navy."
Samuel Goldhaber, the article's author who is now a cardiologist
attached to the Harvard School of Medicine, spent 11 hours trailing Mr
Kerry and still remembers that the subject of the Paris deferment came
up during long conversations about Vietnam.
"I stand by my story," he told The Telegraph. "It was a long time ago,
and I was 19 at the time, so it is hard to remember every detail. But
I do know this: at no point did Kerry contact either me or the Crimson
to dispute anything I had written."
Sen Kerry's campaign headquarters in Washington refused an opportunity
to deny the report. Despite repeated telephone calls from The
Telegraph, a spokesman refused to comment. Another Democrat official
said merely: "In Vietnam, John Kerry proved his patriotism beyond
question. Everyone knows that."
A senior Republican strategist, who asked not to be named, said: "I've
not heard this before. This undercuts Kerry's complaints about Bush
and it continues to pose questions as to his credibility among
ordinary Vietnam veterans."
He said it would fuel concerns over the way Sen Kerry made a name for
himself by leading anti-war protests in Washington and Boston in the
late 1960s and early 1970s after he had completed his service in the
US Navy, even while his former comrades continued to fight and die.
A newly-published biography of Sen Kerry by Douglas Brinkley, A Tour
of Duty, makes no mention of the requested deferment or planned year
in Paris. At the time, it was still unclear just how long America
would remain in Vietnam, and it might have seemed that a year's
deferral of service could render enlistment unnecessary.
According to the Democratic Party's version of Sen Kerry's military
history, he joined the Reserve Officer Training Corps at Harvard
through eagerness to do his duty, and sailed with the Navy for combat
as soon as he graduated in 1966.
Sen Kerry won a gallantry medal for his service as a gunboat captain
on the Mekong Delta, and was honorably discharged with three "purple
heart" medals after sustaining three wounds. He has consistently
presented himself as a leader who argued against the war only after
fulfilling his duty in the field. Supporters argue that his war record
makes him a more trustworthy leader than President Bush, who served
sporadically in the National Guard at home.
"This means that Kerry didn't jump into all that heroic service until
he was pushed, and it is a very nice piece of information," said
Lucianne Goldberg, a prominent Republican campaigner.
Republican strategists for President Bush were already investigating
Sen Kerry's record of three wounds sustained in Vietnam. "We find that
he had only one day off sick - with three wounds? What exactly were
these wounds?" she asked.
Mr Goldhaber recalled that, during a day spent with Sen Kerry and one
assistant during his congressional campaign, he had described his
involvement, service and decision to oppose the war in great detail.
"I am not at all surprised that he wants to be president, because he
exuded ambition from the word go," said Dr Goldhaber. "At the time,
the idea that he tried to persuade the draft board to let him spend a
year in Paris was just a detail."
A spokesman for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign declined to
comment.
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are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.
Liberals HATE America!
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User: "George Grapman"

Title: Re: "Hero" Kerry tried to put off Vietnam military duty 23 Aug 2004 10:26:38 PM
Obviously Bush and Cheney are more qualified as they did a much
better job of putting off their service in Vietnam.
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User: "MOONIES for Bush"

Title: Re: "Hero" Kerry tried to put off Vietnam military duty 25 Aug 2004 01:57:49 AM
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:26:38 GMT, George Grapman
<sfgeorge@paccbell.net> twrote

Obviously Bush and Cheney are more qualified as they did a much
better job of putting off their service in Vietnam.

Bush Pal SUN MYUNG MOON's Nuke-Tech to ATHEIST North Korea.
The issue is NOT purple hearts in Viet Nam, but Black Hearts in
Washington D.C.
George Bush buddy Sun Myung Moon gave nuclear weapons submarine
sea-launch technology to North Korea in 1994. That technology now
permits North Korea sea-platform launched missiles to hit continental
USA. Bush and Moon are collaborating on "SwiftVet" smear dirty tricks,
using Moon's Washington Times and UPI news operations to peddle felony
frauds.
SUN MYUNG MOON gave North Korea NUKE DELIVERY SYSTEMS.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
Sun Myung Moon's Japanese Toen Trading company delivered 12 Russian
Golf missile submarines with launch tubes intact. The North Korean
communists studied this technology and adapted their missiles to be
sea launched from surface and submarine platforms. North Korea now has
nuclear weapon strike capability which can reach the continental
United States from sea-based mobile launch facilities at distances of
2,500 miles. This website has clickable links to Sun Myung Moon
subversion sources, documentation, proof.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
LINKS -- NK sea-missile capability: http://www.navyseals.com
http://www.janes.com http://www.reuters.co.uk http://news.bbc.co.uk
http://www.washingtontimes.com http://www.newscientist.com
http://www.townhall.com http://www.freerepublic.com
http://www.libertyforum.org http://www.theage.com.au
http://www.iht.com http://www.latimes.com
LINKS -- North Korean-born Sun Myung Moon's Toen Trading Submarine
Subversion: http://www.freerepublic.com http://www.usasurvival.org
http://www.gorenfeld.net http://www.davidicke.net
http://blog.mmadsen.org http://www.kenlayne.com
http://www.pandagon.net http://jameswagner.com
http://functionalambivalent.typepad.com http://www.la-mancha.net
http://windsofchange.net http://thoughtcrimes.org http://www.vuw.ac.nz
Sun Myung Moon owns the Washington Times newspaper, and he owns the
UPI (United Press International) wireservice. He controls the main
Washington DC conservative propaganda mill. The Washington Times has
been subsidized by over a billion dollars of moonie slave labor. Every
time that a republican politician quotes the Washington Times, or
writes an article or op-ed in it, Sun Myung Moon is made larger in his
brainwashed follower's eyes. Conservatives are so desperate for
propaganda for their agenda that they willingly aid and abet Sun Myung
Moon's organized crime activities in exchange for the help his
organized crime front operations deliver to them.
Sun Myung Moon has paid ex-presidents, such as George Herbert Walker
Bush up to $10,000,000 for photo-op and endorsements, because his
virtually captive followers have very restricted access to news. They
are told that everybody Moon shakes hands with has accepted Moon as
their lord and savior. This global slave labor force replenishes a $10
million expense for faked stage setting photo-op in a couple of days.
LINKS about Moonies, Bush, Washinton Times connections:
The Moonies: Everything you wanted to know about Sun Myung Moon and
the Unification Church
Moonie and Related Links
* The Right Wing Media Conspiracy - How the Moonies and right wing
groups control the media
* Moonies and the Washington Times - The mouthpiece of Sun Myung
Moon
* Is George Bush a Moonie? - Bush takes $100,000 to endorse the
Moonies
* Inside Look at the Moonies - Great article I snagged
* Moonie Front Organizations - 1000 organization that are Moonie
fronts
* Consortium News - Very good articles about Moonies and other
right wingers
* Bush and Moon - US CIA and Korean CIA?? GHW Bush Praises Sun
Myung Moon as 'Man of Vision'
* Sun Myung Moon - "the Savior, Messiah and King of Kings of all
of humanity"
* The Bush-Kim-Moon Triangle of Money - the political largesse of
Sun Myung Moon.
Sun Myung Moon crowned as Second Coming in DC
The news of a very strange event that occurred at the end of March,
but was quietly swept under the carpet by the mainstream media, is
just now beginning to leak out. Expect to hear more about it in the
coming days. Here's a preview on what surely must be one of the most
bizarre happenings in the long history of Congressional oddities...
It occurred on March 23, 2004 when Reverend Sun Myung Moon, cultist
leader of the Unification Church (currently known as The Family
Federation for World Peace and Unification), was crowned "King of
Peace" in a coronation ceremony. In his coronation speech, Moon told
the audience that it was now time to officially recognize him as the
returned Messiah.
LINKS:
Moon Crowned in the Capital, [Unification Church] Sun Myung Moon
Crowned 'King Of America' At U.S. Senate Building, Hail to the Moon
king, Moon Over Washington, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah By
Congressmen, Sun Myung Moon crowned as Messiah by U.S. Senate! Moonie
leader 'crowned' in Senate, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah! U.S.
Lawmakers Crown rev. Sun Myung Moon Messiah! Here's a guy the
Republicans don't want us to know about. (Actually, it was a democrat
conservative, to the great relief of republican conservatives, who
placed the crown on Moon, in this hoax ceremony. In Moon's world he
replaces all governments with his Taliban, so Republicans and
Democrats all will be liquidated.
The quaint mass marriage ceremonies of the Moonies has another
significance: these represent thousands upon thousand upon thousands
of members of an organized crime empire, as dedicated as body-bomb
suicide muslims, to the eccentric whims of this visibly insane man.
Moonies surreptitiously swell rallies for rightwing causes, clog the
internet forums with their unshakable propaganda-mongering which
cannot be reasoned with, vote as a block and move across state lines
to do it. They even move across international boundaries to meddle in
politics.

Moonies also collaborate with other organized crime rings for mutal
profit.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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User: "Michael Marxist Moore"

Title: Moore military double think 25 Aug 2004 02:32:28 AM
Moore military double think
Supporting URLs variously available in context:
http://snipurl.com/7ist
_________________________
One of the biggest themes in Fahrenheit 9/11 is the humanity of war
and the brave and noble sacrifices made by our troops to appease
Bush's war lust. One particularly moving segment of the film traces
Lila Lipscomb and her emotional reaction to her son, Michael
Peterson's, death. Moore is right there with her, the very picture of
consolation and regret.
New evidence, however, reveals that Mike's reverent attitude towards
our soldiers may be a very recent development.
In a May 17th article for The Guardian, Moore stated,
"When you see the movie you will see things you have never seen
before, you will learn things you have never known before. Half the
movie is about Iraq - we were able to get film crews embedded with
American troops without them knowing that it was Michael Moore. They
are totally f***ed."

A fluke? Not quite. On the 14th of April, 2004, Moore authored the
following post on his website:
"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not
"insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION,
the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win."

Later on, when addressing the possibility of U.N. help in the Iraqi
conflict, Moore says the following:
"There is a lot of talk amongst Bush's opponents that we should turn
this war over to the United Nations. Why should the other countries of
this world, countries who tried to talk us out of this folly, now have
to clean up our mess? I oppose the U.N. or anyone else risking the
lives of their citizens to extract us from our debacle. I'm sorry, but
the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly,
that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has
been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will
forgive us in the end. "
.



User: "MOONIES for Bush"

Title: Re: "Hero" Kerry tried to put off Vietnam military duty 25 Aug 2004 01:57:33 AM
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:23:54 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> twrote

George W Bush, tried to defer his military service for a year,
according to a newly rediscovered article in a Harvard University
newspaper.

Bush Pal SUN MYUNG MOON's Nuke-Tech to ATHEIST North Korea.
The issue is NOT purple hearts in Viet Nam, but Black Hearts in
Washington D.C.
George Bush buddy Sun Myung Moon gave nuclear weapons submarine
sea-launch technology to North Korea in 1994. That technology now
permits North Korea sea-platform launched missiles to hit continental
USA. Bush and Moon are collaborating on "SwiftVet" smear dirty tricks,
using Moon's Washington Times and UPI news operations to peddle felony
frauds.
SUN MYUNG MOON gave North Korea NUKE DELIVERY SYSTEMS.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
Sun Myung Moon's Japanese Toen Trading company delivered 12 Russian
Golf missile submarines with launch tubes intact. The North Korean
communists studied this technology and adapted their missiles to be
sea launched from surface and submarine platforms. North Korea now has
nuclear weapon strike capability which can reach the continental
United States from sea-based mobile launch facilities at distances of
2,500 miles. This website has clickable links to Sun Myung Moon
subversion sources, documentation, proof.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
LINKS -- NK sea-missile capability: http://www.navyseals.com
http://www.janes.com http://www.reuters.co.uk http://news.bbc.co.uk
http://www.washingtontimes.com http://www.newscientist.com
http://www.townhall.com http://www.freerepublic.com
http://www.libertyforum.org http://www.theage.com.au
http://www.iht.com http://www.latimes.com
LINKS -- North Korean-born Sun Myung Moon's Toen Trading Submarine
Subversion: http://www.freerepublic.com http://www.usasurvival.org
http://www.gorenfeld.net http://www.davidicke.net
http://blog.mmadsen.org http://www.kenlayne.com
http://www.pandagon.net http://jameswagner.com
http://functionalambivalent.typepad.com http://www.la-mancha.net
http://windsofchange.net http://thoughtcrimes.org http://www.vuw.ac.nz
Sun Myung Moon owns the Washington Times newspaper, and he owns the
UPI (United Press International) wireservice. He controls the main
Washington DC conservative propaganda mill. The Washington Times has
been subsidized by over a billion dollars of moonie slave labor. Every
time that a republican politician quotes the Washington Times, or
writes an article or op-ed in it, Sun Myung Moon is made larger in his
brainwashed follower's eyes. Conservatives are so desperate for
propaganda for their agenda that they willingly aid and abet Sun Myung
Moon's organized crime activities in exchange for the help his
organized crime front operations deliver to them.
Sun Myung Moon has paid ex-presidents, such as George Herbert Walker
Bush up to $10,000,000 for photo-op and endorsements, because his
virtually captive followers have very restricted access to news. They
are told that everybody Moon shakes hands with has accepted Moon as
their lord and savior. This global slave labor force replenishes a $10
million expense for faked stage setting photo-op in a couple of days.
LINKS about Moonies, Bush, Washinton Times connections:
The Moonies: Everything you wanted to know about Sun Myung Moon and
the Unification Church
Moonie and Related Links
* The Right Wing Media Conspiracy - How the Moonies and right wing
groups control the media
* Moonies and the Washington Times - The mouthpiece of Sun Myung
Moon
* Is George Bush a Moonie? - Bush takes $100,000 to endorse the
Moonies
* Inside Look at the Moonies - Great article I snagged
* Moonie Front Organizations - 1000 organization that are Moonie
fronts
* Consortium News - Very good articles about Moonies and other
right wingers
* Bush and Moon - US CIA and Korean CIA?? GHW Bush Praises Sun
Myung Moon as 'Man of Vision'
* Sun Myung Moon - "the Savior, Messiah and King of Kings of all
of humanity"
* The Bush-Kim-Moon Triangle of Money - the political largesse of
Sun Myung Moon.
Sun Myung Moon crowned as Second Coming in DC
The news of a very strange event that occurred at the end of March,
but was quietly swept under the carpet by the mainstream media, is
just now beginning to leak out. Expect to hear more about it in the
coming days. Here's a preview on what surely must be one of the most
bizarre happenings in the long history of Congressional oddities...
It occurred on March 23, 2004 when Reverend Sun Myung Moon, cultist
leader of the Unification Church (currently known as The Family
Federation for World Peace and Unification), was crowned "King of
Peace" in a coronation ceremony. In his coronation speech, Moon told
the audience that it was now time to officially recognize him as the
returned Messiah.
LINKS:
Moon Crowned in the Capital, [Unification Church] Sun Myung Moon
Crowned 'King Of America' At U.S. Senate Building, Hail to the Moon
king, Moon Over Washington, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah By
Congressmen, Sun Myung Moon crowned as Messiah by U.S. Senate! Moonie
leader 'crowned' in Senate, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah! U.S.
Lawmakers Crown rev. Sun Myung Moon Messiah! Here's a guy the
Republicans don't want us to know about. (Actually, it was a democrat
conservative, to the great relief of republican conservatives, who
placed the crown on Moon, in this hoax ceremony. In Moon's world he
replaces all governments with his Taliban, so Republicans and
Democrats all will be liquidated.
The quaint mass marriage ceremonies of the Moonies has another
significance: these represent thousands upon thousand upon thousands
of members of an organized crime empire, as dedicated as body-bomb
suicide muslims, to the eccentric whims of this visibly insane man.
Moonies surreptitiously swell rallies for rightwing causes, clog the
internet forums with their unshakable propaganda-mongering which
cannot be reasoned with, vote as a block and move across state lines
to do it. They even move across international boundaries to meddle in
politics.

Moonies also collaborate with other organized crime rings for mutal
profit.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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User: "Michael Marxist Moore"

Title: Liberal Michael Moore is a big fat communist pig! 25 Aug 2004 02:31:56 AM
Liberal Michael Moore is a big fat communist pig!
Michael Moore, the micro-talented manufacturer of simulated
documentaries, has a new feature on the front page of his Web site.
It’s a directory of recommendations called “Check It Out,” and it
lists some of Moore’s favorite coming attractions.
In addition to promoting the sycophantic Bill Moyers show and the hip
young lefty author Danny Goldberg, Moore aligns himself with the
incessantly irritating Natalie Maines.
Much like MTV’s “Rock the Vote,” Moore provides another outlet to
build a new set of fans for the Chicks. His site reads, “You can
preview the songs off the Dixie Chicks album ‘Home’ here, and if you
like what you hear, show your support for our 1st Amendment, and grab
a copy of the album.”
To add a dash of corporate paranoia, Moore includes this tip: “Don't
let Clear Channel tell you what to listen to.”
The Left Coast Report notes that Moore doesn’t seem to have any
suspicions about fat cat corporations such as Regan Books (“Stupid
White Men”) or Alliance Atlantis and United Artists (“Bowling for
Columbine”) when the checks are flowing Left.
Michael Moore, the micro-talented manufacturer of simulated
documentaries, has a new feature on the front page of his Web site.
It’s a directory of recommendations called “Check It Out,” and it
lists some of Moore’s favorite coming attractions.
In addition to promoting the sycophantic Bill Moyers show and the hip
young lefty author Danny Goldberg, Moore aligns himself with the
incessantly irritating Natalie Maines.
Much like MTV’s “Rock the Vote,” Moore provides another outlet to
build a new set of fans for the Chicks. His site reads, “You can
preview the songs off the Dixie Chicks album ‘Home’ here, and if you
like what you hear, show your support for our 1st Amendment, and grab
a copy of the album.”
To add a dash of corporate paranoia, Moore includes this tip: “Don't
let Clear Channel tell you what to listen to.”
The Left Coast Report notes that Moore doesn’t seem to have any
suspicions about fat cat corporations such as Regan Books (“Stupid
White Men”) or Alliance Atlantis and United Artists (“Bowling for
Columbine”) when the checks are flowing Left.
.



User: "Hanoi Jane Fonda"

Title: LIBERAL KERRY SUPPORTERS THAT HATE AMERICA! 23 Aug 2004 08:15:20 PM
LIBERAL KERRY SUPPORTERS THAT HATE AMERICA!
Politicians:
* Robert Byrd
When asked for an endorsement of Kerry's 1997 Book "The New Solder"
Byrd's response was; "I say most respectfully to you, I threw it in
the wastebasket after leafing through it."

* General Wesley Clark:
"The American people don't want another Washington insider who never
plays it straight. They don't want a follower who makes decisions by
licking his finger and sticking it up in the wind". "We need
leadership that will take responsibility in this country, and I'm very
disturbed that John did not do that. - on Kerry's comments related to
racial preferences. "I don't think people understand in this country
how politicians in Washington can say one thing and do something
else."
* Howard Dean:
"John Kerry is part of the corrupt political culture in Washington."
"I'm just incensed by his hypocrisy."
"A candidate of no principle."
"Just another inside-the-Beltway guy who's played the game for 15
years."
* John Edwards:
"What he's saying now [on trade] is different than what he did in the
past."
"I think he's said some different things at different points in time.
So I think there's been some inconsistency."
Actors:
* Alec Baldwin:
"They voted on one article of impeachment already. And I come back
from Africa to stained dresses and cigars and this and impeachment. I
am thinking to myself, in other countries they are laughing at us 24
hours a day and I’m thinking to myself, if we were in other countries,
we would all right now, all of us together, [starts to shout] all of
us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde
to death! We would stone him to death! [crowd cheers] Wait! Shut up!
Shut up! No shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to
death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and
their children. We would kill their families. [stands up, yelling]
What is happening in this country? What is happening? UGHHH!" Yep, I'd
be proud to have Alec on my side too!
Others:
* Al Jazeera:
The network favored by Osama bin Laden as the chief venue for his
propaganda tapes stressed that although Kerry initially supported the
Iraq war, "he has suggested Bush's handling of the campaign is
'f****ed up.'" The al-Qaida-friendly network also notes, "[Kerry] says
excluding France and Germany from rebuilding Iraq was 'dumb and
insulting'" - and spotlighted Kerry's charge that the Bush Justice
Department has stigmatized "innocent Muslims and Arabs who pose no
danger." Kerry "made a name for himself on the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee, where he ... exposed the role of President Ronald
Reagan's aide Colonel Oliver North in smuggling guns to the Contra
rebels in Nicaragua."
* Democratic Socialists:
Kerry was hardly the first choice of our members. Most supported
Dennis Kucinich or Howard Dean in the Democratic primary elections and
would be very critical of Senator Kerry's voting record on trade
issues, as well as his support for the resolution authorizing the use
of force in Iraq; but the most important concern of our members now is
to defeat Bush,"
* Peter Yarrow:
Peter Yarrow of Peter, Paul and Mary. Who recently performed at a John
Kerry fundraiser. You remember, during the song "Puff The Magic
Dragon" John Kerry made believe he was smoking a joint, giving the
impression that he may have also indulged in smoking marijuana. The
folk-pop trio has enjoyed a family-friendly image for decades, and has
even done albums of children's songs. Back in 1970, however, Yarrow
pleaded guilty to taking "immoral and improper liberties" with a
14-year-old girl. According to media reports, the girl and her
17-year-old sister went to Yarrow's hotel room seeking an autograph,
and the musician answered the door naked and made a sexual advance
that stopped short of intercourse. The 14-year-old victim resisted his
advances but did not shout or leave the room. She was 14 years of age.
Yarrow served only three months of a one to three-year prison term. In
1981, he was pardoned by Democratic Party President Jimmy Carter.
Today, it is all but forgotten. Anti Bush, pro feminist leaders are
often seen supporting this deviants concerts.
* Ramsey Clark:
"I think John Kerry is a great human being," Clark told this reporter.
"I knew him when he was a youngster in his 20s. I saw him as an
extremely caring person, an extremely courageous person, and a person
who was deeply concerned for peace and the well-being of other
people." Clark has been labeled a "traitor" for his habit of showing
up in countries hostile to the U.S. A lawyer, he has represented
accused terrorists and war criminals. Clark and Kerry were strongly
against the Reagan policy of supporting the anti-communist "Contra"
freedom fighters in Nicaragua. The policy, though opposed by a liberal
Congress, resulted in the holding of elections in Nicaragua, the
electoral defeat of the Communist Sandinistas, and an end to the
communist insurgency in El Salvador. More recently, Clark has been
collaborating with the communist Workers World Party (WWP) in staging
"anti-war" demonstrations against U.S. Iraq policy. Brian Becker, a
member of the WWP secretariat, helped organize those protests and was
the moderator of the Ramsey Clark press event on Haiti.
* Scott Camil:
Known to colleagues in the anti-war movement as "Scott the Assassin",
submitted a plan to assassinate politicians who supported the Vietnam
War. He has happily accepted an offer by JFK to join his team in
Florida.
* Planned Parenthood:
The political arm of taxpayer-supported Planned Parenthood Federation
today threw its support to Sen. John Kerry. It's the first time the
group has ever endorsed a candidate for president. Isn't good to see
our tax dollars at work!
* Tómas Borge:
One of the nine commandantes of Nicaragua's famed Sandinista
revolution and perhaps the most feared. Sen. Kerry was somebody he
looked forward to doing business with as president of the United
States. He's "a more sensible and balanced man, [who] would improve
relations between the U.S. and us."
* George Soros:
His huge speculative currency trades were blamed for the fall of the
Bank of England, and the crash of the Malaysian currency. In Mr.
Soros' mind, the sovereignty of the United States must be subordinated
to international law and international institutions, such as the
United Nations and its International Criminal Court. A world order
based on the sovereignty of states, say Mr. Soros, cannot take care of
our common human interests because the principle of sovereignty stands
in the way.
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Liberals Hate America!
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User: "MOONIES for Bush"

Title: Re: LIBERAL KERRY SUPPORTERS THAT HATE AMERICA! 25 Aug 2004 01:51:35 AM
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:15:20 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> twrote

HATE AMERICA!

Bush Pal SUN MYUNG MOON's Nuke-Tech to ATHEIST North Korea.
The issue is NOT purple hearts in Viet Nam, but Black Hearts in
Washington D.C.
George Bush buddy Sun Myung Moon gave nuclear weapons submarine
sea-launch technology to North Korea in 1994. That technology now
permits North Korea sea-platform launched missiles to hit continental
USA. Bush and Moon are collaborating on "SwiftVet" smear dirty tricks,
using Moon's Washington Times and UPI news operations to peddle felony
frauds.
SUN MYUNG MOON gave North Korea NUKE DELIVERY SYSTEMS.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
Sun Myung Moon's Japanese Toen Trading company delivered 12 Russian
Golf missile submarines with launch tubes intact. The North Korean
communists studied this technology and adapted their missiles to be
sea launched from surface and submarine platforms. North Korea now has
nuclear weapon strike capability which can reach the continental
United States from sea-based mobile launch facilities at distances of
2,500 miles. This website has clickable links to Sun Myung Moon
subversion sources, documentation, proof.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
LINKS -- NK sea-missile capability: http://www.navyseals.com
http://www.janes.com http://www.reuters.co.uk http://news.bbc.co.uk
http://www.washingtontimes.com http://www.newscientist.com
http://www.townhall.com http://www.freerepublic.com
http://www.libertyforum.org http://www.theage.com.au
http://www.iht.com http://www.latimes.com
LINKS -- North Korean-born Sun Myung Moon's Toen Trading Submarine
Subversion: http://www.freerepublic.com http://www.usasurvival.org
http://www.gorenfeld.net http://www.davidicke.net
http://blog.mmadsen.org http://www.kenlayne.com
http://www.pandagon.net http://jameswagner.com
http://functionalambivalent.typepad.com http://www.la-mancha.net
http://windsofchange.net http://thoughtcrimes.org http://www.vuw.ac.nz
Sun Myung Moon owns the Washington Times newspaper, and he owns the
UPI (United Press International) wireservice. He controls the main
Washington DC conservative propaganda mill. The Washington Times has
been subsidized by over a billion dollars of moonie slave labor. Every
time that a republican politician quotes the Washington Times, or
writes an article or op-ed in it, Sun Myung Moon is made larger in his
brainwashed follower's eyes. Conservatives are so desperate for
propaganda for their agenda that they willingly aid and abet Sun Myung
Moon's organized crime activities in exchange for the help his
organized crime front operations deliver to them.
Sun Myung Moon has paid ex-presidents, such as George Herbert Walker
Bush up to $10,000,000 for photo-op and endorsements, because his
virtually captive followers have very restricted access to news. They
are told that everybody Moon shakes hands with has accepted Moon as
their lord and savior. This global slave labor force replenishes a $10
million expense for faked stage setting photo-op in a couple of days.
LINKS about Moonies, Bush, Washinton Times connections:
The Moonies: Everything you wanted to know about Sun Myung Moon and
the Unification Church
Moonie and Related Links
* The Right Wing Media Conspiracy - How the Moonies and right wing
groups control the media
* Moonies and the Washington Times - The mouthpiece of Sun Myung
Moon
* Is George Bush a Moonie? - Bush takes $100,000 to endorse the
Moonies
* Inside Look at the Moonies - Great article I snagged
* Moonie Front Organizations - 1000 organization that are Moonie
fronts
* Consortium News - Very good articles about Moonies and other
right wingers
* Bush and Moon - US CIA and Korean CIA?? GHW Bush Praises Sun
Myung Moon as 'Man of Vision'
* Sun Myung Moon - "the Savior, Messiah and King of Kings of all
of humanity"
* The Bush-Kim-Moon Triangle of Money - the political largesse of
Sun Myung Moon.
Sun Myung Moon crowned as Second Coming in DC
The news of a very strange event that occurred at the end of March,
but was quietly swept under the carpet by the mainstream media, is
just now beginning to leak out. Expect to hear more about it in the
coming days. Here's a preview on what surely must be one of the most
bizarre happenings in the long history of Congressional oddities...
It occurred on March 23, 2004 when Reverend Sun Myung Moon, cultist
leader of the Unification Church (currently known as The Family
Federation for World Peace and Unification), was crowned "King of
Peace" in a coronation ceremony. In his coronation speech, Moon told
the audience that it was now time to officially recognize him as the
returned Messiah.
LINKS:
Moon Crowned in the Capital, [Unification Church] Sun Myung Moon
Crowned 'King Of America' At U.S. Senate Building, Hail to the Moon
king, Moon Over Washington, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah By
Congressmen, Sun Myung Moon crowned as Messiah by U.S. Senate! Moonie
leader 'crowned' in Senate, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah! U.S.
Lawmakers Crown rev. Sun Myung Moon Messiah! Here's a guy the
Republicans don't want us to know about. (Actually, it was a democrat
conservative, to the great relief of republican conservatives, who
placed the crown on Moon, in this hoax ceremony. In Moon's world he
replaces all governments with his Taliban, so Republicans and
Democrats all will be liquidated.
The quaint mass marriage ceremonies of the Moonies has another
significance: these represent thousands upon thousand upon thousands
of members of an organized crime empire, as dedicated as body-bomb
suicide muslims, to the eccentric whims of this visibly insane man.
Moonies surreptitiously swell rallies for rightwing causes, clog the
internet forums with their unshakable propaganda-mongering which
cannot be reasoned with, vote as a block and move across state lines
to do it. They even move across international boundaries to meddle in
politics.

Moonies also collaborate with other organized crime rings for mutal
profit.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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User: "Michael Marxist Moore"

Title: Michael Moore is the great hero to terrorists around the world. 25 Aug 2004 02:25:48 AM
Michael Moore is the great hero to terrorists around the world.
the biggest fans of fahrenheit 911 will be radical muslims when the
movie screens all over the arab world. the lunatics will feel
vindicated by the fact that even some americans agree that america is
a murderous imperialist superpower out to kill innocent people all
over the world just to make a buck and for the bloody fun of
it(moore's take on kosovo war in bowling for columbine). fahrenheit
911 will send a message to the arab world that radical muslim's hatred
of america is hardly extreme; america is NOT a democracy; bush is a
murderous dictator who expends lives just to make a buck; americans
are simply out to steal oil and everything else from the arabs; what
americans are doing in iraq is no different than what whites did to
blacks with slavery or to indians by westward expansion. michael moore
the antiamerican thug has given radical muslims all the justification
they need to attack america and kill americans. If america is indeed
this evil, why shouldn't america be attacked and killed? wasn't it
justifiable to attack nazi germany? for moore,
bush is up there with tojo and hitler; american global presence is
nothing but imperialist robbery and thuggishness. though moore doesn't
say it out right, his argument only justifies the rationale behind
9-11. we deserved it, says radical muslims and moore. we've been
stealing and robbing and killing arabs for too long. the only
difference between moore and alqaeda is the latter has the guts to
risk their lives. moore uses his extreme hatred to make movies and
rake in millions, live like a commissar with his dachas, priveleges,
world travels, and alot of food that keeps his ugly smelly ***** fat.
according to moore, bush is no better or even worse than osama. We
were appalled that osama carelessly expended the lives of his
followers in the 9-11 attacks. we wondered how a man can tell his
followers to willfully sacrifice their lives. moore says bush is just
the same. for private interests--for money--bush sent americans to
die. of course, this means bush is worse than osama. at least osama
had a political motive. moore says bush had americans and iraqis
killed just to make a buck. this sicko degenerate moore is now being
embraced even by liberals. alot of 'liberals' have been exposed as
deranged, extreme, anti-american scum subconsciously believe that we
deserved 9-11. we've been imperialists, we've kicked people around
for too long in the middle east and chicken came home to roost.
in the poster for fahrenheit 911, we see a picture of bush with
moore. the poster should have moore holding hands with osama bin
laden. i do not exaggerate. moore is as much a deranged hater as osama
bin laden. both of them play the folksy regular guys. moore is a
megamillionaire but dons a baseball cap, wears baggy ruffled clothes,
and consciously maintains a stubby unshaven chin. that's his schtick.
the idea is he may be superrich but he's still just a regular guy.
same with osama who came from a rich priveleged family but decided to
go into radical politics. he wears raggy nomadic clothes, maintaining
this image of the islamic average joe. this is their carefully
orchestrated schtick and why not? schtick
sells. bruce springsteen still acts the working class guy barely
making mortgage payments on a bungalow in new jersey. if brucie
dressed and talked like a millionaire, he'd lose his fandom though it
saddens one
to see what had once been genuine has now degenerated into
self-conscious publicity stunt. but, that's entertainment, and
entertainment is about make believe. in politics, this kind of put-on
folksiness is dangerous and deceiving. when western intellectuals and
journalists journeyed to yenan to observe chinese communists they were
all highly impressed by mao's folksy manner, his earthy vulgarity, his
uncouth ordinariness. unlike your average arrogant leftwing
intellectual, he looked like a man of the people. and when he gained
power, mao consciously maintained this image, sometimes appearing in
public with mended socks, wearing ruffled pants and creased clothes.
many american liberal who met with mao thought he was a moderate
democrat and not a crazy radical. people like edgar snow bought into
this schtick and praised mao as never having lost his contact with his
people; he grew up in a peasant family, farts in front of guests,
cracks vulgur jokes, wakes up late, is easy to laugh... how can he NOT
be one of the ordinary joes? moore relies on the same calculated
schtick. it's just a stunt to persuade us that he, moore, is not a
paranoid leftwing anti-american but just an average american, that his
voice is our voice; how antiamerican or radical can a baseball cap
wearing beer swilling big mac eating slob be? and, of course, there
are people dumb enough to fall for this. but, there are also leftists
who see it for what it is, but play along, because they believe
americans are too dumb for sophisticated analysis and therefore are
best persuaded thru demagoguery; these leftists who privately don't
approve of moore's tactics value the impact of moore's demagoguery on
all the easy suckers who can't be reached thru essays by chomsky and
The Nation.
anyway, fahrenheit 911 is not simply a movie that has gone too far but
one that is criminal, rabid, murderous, and deranged. though moore
doesn't call for the trial and execution of george w. bush, such is
implied by the movie's wild stunning accusations; moore doesn't even
present his argument as allegations but objective accusations. he says
they are true and there's no two ways about it. the accusation is
that george bush had innocent iraqis and US soldiers killed just to
put a chunk of change into his pocket. this isn't political debate, it
is a declaration of war from the left. moore's view of bush is hardly
different than those of osama bin laden, radical islamists, and saddam
hussein: that bush and american government are neo-imperialist, their
objective is to enslave arabs and steal their oil. using moore's
argument, bush is no better than hitler. if what moore says is true,
than it's no worse to assassinate bush than it would have been to
assassinate hitler? if indeed we have a president who stole the
election by a coup d'tat, is an oppressor who defacto kills US
soldiers and innocent arab women and children just stuff his pocket
with cash, then indeed such a man is a murderous, heinous criminal. It
shouldn't merely be a matter of throwing him out by a free election
but calling on the UN to try him for atrocities and even possibly
genocide. this is moore's contention. this is what the scum leftists
are laughing and cheering about as they watch this vile hateful movie.
these accusations are so serious that they must be supported by hard
evidence. moore has none. he just connects the dots in a political
equivalent of a coloring book and says it's true and that's that.
leftists and some liberals murderously agree with moore.
this is hardly surprising from a guy who gave us bowling from
columbine where he presents US involvment in kosovo as just a deranged
rabid american fixation on playing the triggerhappy cowboy. moore's
view of american foreign policy is, again, not different from that of
osama bin laden. americans are just triggerhappy global murderers and
imperialists who go around killing just for pleasure and to make a
buck. this was moore's take on kosovo, on the actions of the
president of the democratic party. if moore thinks clinton is a war
criminal and mass murderer, you can well guess what moore thinks of
bush. fahrenheit 911 reeks with vile, murderous, contemptuous hatred
so putrid one wonders what the amreican left stands for? do they
really really think bush--and even clinton--are mass murderers, mere
puppets of corporations that trigger wars all over the globe just to
make money? this is the standard leftist line? nothing has changed
since the days of lenin and trotsky when the provisional
government--fragile democracy in russia--was slandered as a mere tool
of bourgeois pigs, where the bolsheviks went so far as to undermine
the war effort and even make deals with the germans simply to gain and
maintain power.
i believe one can conscientiously oppose war, any war. and, it is
true that in all wars, there is more than one determining factor, more
than one player, more than one agenda. all wars--except ones
orchestrated by absolute tyrants--are the products of diverse
forces--political, ideological, economic, social, historical,
cultural. wars are almost never waged for a single reason,
humanitarian or pragmatic, political or economic. there are national
interests, economic interests, countless other factors. one can, for
example, argue that part of the french and german opposition to the
war was economic, as french and german companies had vested interests
with hussein. but to take those elements and say chirac opposed the
war because he's just a puppet of french corporations would be an
outrage. it's one thing to criticize those associated with bush and
profit from the spoils of war. this is fair and necessary criticism.
but, to say bush in effect has american soldiers and iraq people
killed for personal and family gain is criminal. bush will certainly
not take moore to court since it wont' seem presidential but once bush
leaves office, he should hunt that sumfabitch down and bring him to
justice texas style. but, moore has similar feelings about US as a
whole. with his average joe schtick, moore will have you believe that
he's not anti-american, just anti-rich-american. yet, don't be fooled
by moore. his take on american history, politics, and civilization is
no different than that of lenin and trotsky, mao zedong, and osama bin
laden. all one need do is watch bowling for columbine where moore
gives us his take on US history. now, we all know that all
civilizations have failures and committed grave crimes, american
included. but, when viewed in the context of human history and world
affairs, who can deny-except leftists and the likes of osama bin
laden--that US has always been
ahead of other nations in freedom and human rights? US got rid of
slavery in 1865. arab nations got rid of slavery in the 20th century
from pressure of west. during the 19th century when much of europe
was still ruled by the aristocracy, US was a fast evolving democracy.
american values and politics were light yrs ahead of anything in
spanish dominated americas, tribal africa, feudal asia. in the 20th
century, communist nations practiced virtual slavery until the total
discrediting and fall of communism. would any black-american in the
20th century trade places with a russian in soviet union or a chinese
in mao's china in the 20th century. stalin killed 30 million, 5
million less than the total black population today. russians of all
color were denied all political freedoms under a dictatorship
dominated by a totalitarian one party system. and we know about mao
and his murder of 55 million and total and complete political,
economic, and cultural oppression of the masses. these and countless
other injusticed and brutalities outside the US do not excuse american
injustices, its history of oppression. yet, who can deny there were
great things about america, its political and economic system? Moore
won't have any of it. in bowling for columbine, US history is
presented as a case of nothing of evil whites coming and killing
innocent nature loving indians, enslaving and murderously oppressing
noble saintly blacks. moore doesn't just attack rich white americans
but all white americans. all white americans are bigoted, paranoid,
murderous, triggerhappy, genocidal lunatics who only want to steal
from people of color. according to moore, the entire US economy has
been nothing but stealing land from the indians and labor from blacks.
that's it. businessmen and corporations had nothing to do with the
building of cities, developing technologies, creating wealth,
advancing medical science, etc. etc; no, US business has been nothing
but a case of evil murderous rich ripping off the poor; capitalism had
nothing to do with why US grew into the most powerful, productive,
plentiful, and free nation in the world. even lenin and trotsky
wouldn't have gone that far in their condemnation of US history and
economy. even lenin and trotsky admitted to the productive and even
progressive forces of bourgeois capitalism. but, moore won't even
give america that much credit. americans--mainly, white of course,
worse if republican white--are just a bunch of delusional, insane,
guntoting, ravenous, and greedy louts and lunatics. his view of the
average american is hardly different than an antisemites view of jews:
ravenous bloodsucking leeches. moore's contentions are not
criticism. they amount to a marxist declaration of war. moore's view
of america is hardly different from osama bin laden's view of america.
if osama were given a camera to make a movie about america, could it
be any more offensive, delirious, hateful, and insane than moore's?
if what moore says is true, why would it be
wrong for anyone to orchestrate attacks such as 9-11 bombings? if as
moore says, american capitalism is simply international imperialism,
that we really want to steal oil and resources from other people, that
indeed the story of american history is nothing but capitalist pigs
using political sockpuppets to conquer the world and kill innocents,
then who can argue osama bin laden was wrong in what he did? would it
be any different than bombing imperial japan and nazi germany? If
moore and leftists really believe that america is a corporate fascist
state and americans are nothing but guntoting deranged paranoid
imperialist lunatics, then they must secretly agree with osama bin
laden deeds in the name of the oppressed 'people of color'. indeed,
what is the difference between the left and osama in their view of
america? the only difference is osama probably doesn't like rap
music.
still, is it going overboard to say fahrenheit 911 is criminal? no, I
believe it IS criminal. now, in rap and punk music, america has been
shat on by the heirs of the black panthers and maoists. take a look
at a clash album--give em enough rope--lionizing the mass murderer mao
zedong, and you know where the sympathies of these scumbags lie. Much
of rap and punk is simply hate music but since the leftists monopolize
cultural criticism and since leftists deem it okay to virulently hate
capitalists and conservative whites, it's called 'progressive' music.
still, rap and punk fall under the category of 'art'. under the rubric
of art, everything should be possible, whether it's rambo or reds. Art
is fiction and isn't obligated to factual or truthful. but,
fahrenheit 911 is not jfk, stone's political fiction. moore's
accusations are real, he's defacto calling for the blood of our
president. he's calling our president a murderer of american soliders,
of iraqi women and children for the purpose of enriching himself.
moore isn't theorizing but making slanderous accusations. in the
director's cut of stone's jfk, there's a scene where lyndon b. johnson
is shown saying 'get me in the white house and i'll get you this war'.
stone is theorizing that lyndon b. johnson--!!!!--was involved in the
plot to kill kennedy. outrageous stuff but jfk is still fiction, or as
stone called it, a counter-myth. however, if stone had a made a
documentary where he made such accusations, it would be slander.
shitbag ought to be dragged into court and sued for everything he's
got. moore isn't theorizing. he really means that bush had people
killed mainly to make his rich daddy richer. people think of moore as
a folksy ordinary guy but this guy is truly deranged, a paranoid
looney fuc*er who really believes in the third rate political pigslop
he serves up.
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