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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Fredric L. Rice"
Date: 04 Mar 2005 01:38:46 PM
Object: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed
Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof
A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for making
terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings" that got
him arrested are being taken out of context.
Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody Tuesday
morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's home that
outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police.
Poole told LEX 18 that the whole incident is a big misunderstanding. He
claims that what his grandparents found in his journal and turned into
police was a short story he wrote for English class.
"My story is based on fiction," said Poole, who faces a second-degree
felony terrorist threatening charge. "It's a fake story. I made it up.
I've been working on one of my short stories, (and) the short story they
found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high school. It was about a
high school over ran by zombies."
Even so, police say the nature of the story makes it a felony. "Anytime you
make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a
felony in the state of Kentucky," said Winchester Police detective Steven
Caudill.
Poole disputes that he was threatening anyone.
"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention (George
Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing,"
said Poole. "Half the people at high school know me. They know I'm not that
stupid, that crazy."
On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five thousand dollars
after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of the charge.
Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.
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User: "Clayton: The Reason The Housewives Are Desperate!"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 04 Mar 2005 05:23:42 PM
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:112hecctd5ijh55@corp.supernews.com...

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for making
terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings" that got
him arrested are being taken out of context.

Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody Tuesday
morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's home that
outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police.

Poole told LEX 18 that the whole incident is a big misunderstanding. He
claims that what his grandparents found in his journal and turned into
police was a short story he wrote for English class.

"My story is based on fiction," said Poole, who faces a second-degree
felony terrorist threatening charge. "It's a fake story. I made it up.
I've been working on one of my short stories, (and) the short story they
found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high school. It was about a
high school over ran by zombies."

Even so, police say the nature of the story makes it a felony. "Anytime

you


make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a
felony in the state of Kentucky," said Winchester Police detective Steven
Caudill.

Poole disputes that he was threatening anyone.

"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention

(George


Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing,"
said Poole. "Half the people at high school know me. They know I'm not

that


stupid, that crazy."

On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five thousand dollars
after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of the charge.

Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.

It's thought crime...pure and simple. Orwell was off by about 20 years, but
it's all coming true!
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 08 Mar 2005 09:26:23 AM
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 09:23:42 +1000, "Clayton: The Reason The Housewives
Are Desperate!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote:


"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:112hecctd5ijh55@corp.supernews.com...

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for making
terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings" that got
him arrested are being taken out of context.

Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody Tuesday
morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's home that
outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police.

Poole told LEX 18 that the whole incident is a big misunderstanding. He
claims that what his grandparents found in his journal and turned into
police was a short story he wrote for English class.

"My story is based on fiction," said Poole, who faces a second-degree
felony terrorist threatening charge. "It's a fake story. I made it up.
I've been working on one of my short stories, (and) the short story they
found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high school. It was about a
high school over ran by zombies."

Even so, police say the nature of the story makes it a felony. "Anytime

you


make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a
felony in the state of Kentucky," said Winchester Police detective Steven
Caudill.

Poole disputes that he was threatening anyone.

"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention

(George


Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing,"
said Poole. "Half the people at high school know me. They know I'm not

that


stupid, that crazy."

On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five thousand dollars
after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of the charge.

Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.


It's thought crime...pure and simple. Orwell was off by about 20 years, but
it's all coming true!

Thought is a crime which is why it's almost absent in; Kansas and
Talibama.
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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.


User: ""

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 04 Mar 2005 02:29:35 PM
Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

I didn't know that George W. Bush was in charge of appointing
prosecuting attorneys in the state of Kentucky. This
nonsense seems more of a zero-tolerance about school violence
issue, and that's been going on since Columbine and before.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 09:47:27 AM
<firelock_ny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109968175.232158.82540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...


Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof


I didn't know that George W. Bush was in charge of appointing
prosecuting attorneys in the state of Kentucky. This
nonsense seems more of a zero-tolerance about school violence
issue, and that's been going on since Columbine and before.

Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet

"Under Bush"
.
User: ""

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 07 Mar 2005 10:13:36 AM
kathryn wrote:

<firelock_ny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109968175.232158.82540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...


Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof


I didn't know that George W. Bush was in charge of appointing
prosecuting attorneys in the state of Kentucky. This
nonsense seems more of a zero-tolerance about school violence
issue, and that's been going on since Columbine and before.


"Under Bush"

Just because the OP titled this thread "under Bush"
doesn't mean the actual event in question had anything
to do with Bush.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 09 Mar 2005 02:17:23 AM
wrote:

kathryn wrote:

<

> wrote in message
news:1109968175.232158.82540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

I didn't know that George W. Bush was in charge of appointing
prosecuting attorneys in the state of Kentucky. This
nonsense seems more of a zero-tolerance about school violence
issue, and that's been going on since Columbine and before.

"Under Bush"

Just because the OP titled this thread "under Bush"
doesn't mean the actual event in question had anything
to do with Bush.

Of course it did. Pay attention -- or wake up, whatever will
solve your problem.
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User: ""

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 09 Mar 2005 09:41:54 AM
Fredric L. Rice wrote:

firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:

kathryn wrote:

<firelock_ny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109968175.232158.82540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A

Misunderstanding

http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

I didn't know that George W. Bush was in charge of appointing
prosecuting attorneys in the state of Kentucky. This
nonsense seems more of a zero-tolerance about school violence
issue, and that's been going on since Columbine and before.

"Under Bush"

Just because the OP titled this thread "under Bush"
doesn't mean the actual event in question had anything
to do with Bush.


Of course it did.

That's your opinion. How about presenting some support for it,
beyond "It's Bush's Fault!"?

Pay attention

I am. You're my current dancing bear.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 10 Mar 2005 09:34:59 PM
wrote:

Fredric L. Rice wrote:

wrote:

kathryn wrote:

<

> wrote in message
news:1109968175.232158.82540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

I didn't know that George W. Bush was in charge of appointing
prosecuting attorneys in the state of Kentucky. This
nonsense seems more of a zero-tolerance about school violence
issue, and that's been going on since Columbine and before.

"Under Bush"

Just because the OP titled this thread "under Bush"
doesn't mean the actual event in question had anything
to do with Bush.

Of course it did.

That's your opinion.

Looks like you didn't bother reading it, huh?
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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 11:37:29 AM
wrote:

Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

I didn't know that George W. Bush was in charge of appointing
prosecuting attorneys in the state of Kentucky.

You must be a rightard. This level of fascism is only allowed because
these Christofascists are comfortable in the knowledge they have a
fascist baby killer in the White House, one that enacted "USA PATRIOT
Act."
Had this fascist regime not nullified the Constitution and the Bill of
Rights, these fascists -- like most Christofascists -- would have been
cowed into behaving themselves.
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User: "MrPepper11"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 08 Mar 2005 09:32:07 AM
Columbus Free Press
March 7, 2005
Senator Byrd is correct to equate Bush with Hitler
By Harvey Wasserman
The U.S. Senate's senior Constitutional scholar has correctly equated
Bush with Hitler, and the usual attack dogs are howling. But they are
wrong, and Americans must now face the harsh realities of an
increasingly fascist and totalitarian GOP.
Octogenarian Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia made the equation in
the context of Bush's attack on Senate procedures which might slow or
halt his on-going attempt to pack the courts with extreme right-wing
fanatics. Byrd said Bush's moves to destroy time-honored Senate rules
parallel Hitler's ramming fascist legislation through his gutted
Reichstag. "Hitler never abandoned the cloak of legality," said Byrd.
"He recognized the enormous psychological value of having the law on
his side. Instead, he turned the law inside out and made illegality
legal."
Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman has played the holocaust
card for the Republicans, saying "It is hideous, outrageous and
offensive for Senator Byrd to suggest that the Republican Party's
tactics could in any way resemble those of Adolph Hitler and the Nazi
Party.
GOP Chair Ken Mehlman has labeled Byrd's remarks "reprehensible and
beyond the pale," remarks joined by Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum.
Santorum is best known for equating sexuality between consenting gays
with bestiality between humans and dogs.
But Byrd is one of the few in either house of Congress to truly
understand the Constitution and to advocate for the Bill of Rights. He
points out that like Hitler, Bush is pursuing a strategy designed to
win absolute rule by one party and one leader. Hitler's central slogan
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" -- one people, one government, one
dictator -- accurately describes the current GOP strategy of Karl Rove,
Bush's Joseph Goebbels.
Now the Republicans have renominated extreme right-wing judges to high
courts from which they were barred prior to the 2004 election. With
enhanced majorities in Congress, the GOP is moving to gut rules put in
place to protect the rights of minorities within the government. For
the GOP, as for Hitler, such safeguards are annoying barriers to
absolute power.
These judges are consistent in their eagerness to protect the power and
privilege of private corporations at the public expense, while
simultaneously promoting the invasion of individual rights by the
government. Masquerading as "free market/small government" advocates,
GOP conservatives -- like Hitler's Nazis -- promote an all-powerful
central government run by and for the corporations that sponsor them
while crushing individual rights and liberties.
While Bush advocates for "democracy" overseas, the GOP is crushing it
at home. These judicial nominees mean to further solidify Republican
control of the court system, which they have added to their grip on the
Executive, both houses of Congress and the media. The GOP is also
gutting safeguards within the FBI and CIA, turning them into a personal
police force that could parallel Hitler's Gestapo.
Because the regime wraps itself in the rhetoric of our democratic
roots, it's emotionally difficult for Americans to equate Bush with
Hitler. He is not, after all, running death camps like the ones Hitler
used to exterminate millions of Jews, Gypsies, gays, unionists, Jehovah
Witnesses, the elderly and infirm, birth defected and handicapped. But
the distinction may be lost on the tens of thousands of Iraqis who have
died in the wholesale slaughter there, and whose land has been carpeted
with radioactive depleted uranium which will kill for centuries.
Bush is now operating a classic concentration camp in Guantanamo. This
infamous holding center operates entirely outside the rule of law, with
prisoners held without charge, without evidence, without access to
attorneys, family or the outside world.
At Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and elsewhere -- including the US "civilian"
prison system -- the door has been opened onto the Nazi world of
officially sanctioned torture and systematic human degradation. The new
Attorney General of the United States has explicitly endorsed their
use. Despite some phony genuflections to the contrary, Bush has
renounced the Geneva Accords and has clearly stamped this most
notorious Nazi trademark on a party also in love with the death
penalty.
Bush now holds some 2.2 million prisoners in the US gulag, the world's
biggest prison population since the Nazis both by absolute number and
by percentage of population. At least 800,000 Americans are held for
victimless "drug" crimes, including marijuana. Thousands die each year
from torture, rape, suicide and treatable disease. The system is
designed to remove from the political process and, in many cases,
exterminate people of color, alternative life style and political
dissidence.
Is this worthy of the Nazi label?
Fascism has long been clearly and simply defined as corporate control
of the state, with strong totalitarian, militaristic, anti-feminist and
anti-gay characteristics.
Both Mussolini's Fascists and Hitler's Nazis used acts of terror and
alleged terror to grab absolute power. Ranting at Bolshevism as the GOP
now does against Islam, the Nazis used the burning of the Reichstag
much as the GOP has capitalized on the terror attacks of September 11.
George W. Bush does not spellbind huge Goebbels-massed rallies as
Hitler did. But he does not tolerate groups that might ask embarrassing
questions, and has packed the nation's bloviator corps with servile
panderers. Rove uses the mass media to manipulate and deceive in ways
suited to the trappings of American culture as surely as Goebbels
shaped Hitler's speeches to the German volksgeist.
Bush has courted both people of color and Jews. But his far right
fundamentalist backers see all non-believers as children of Satan who
must ultimately perish in a "cleansing" Armageddon that will allow only
the chosen few into Heaven. Amidst the psychotic twists of the Book of
Revelations, these are people who love Israel but hate Jews and all the
other "un-saved." At its core, there is little to distinguish today's
far-right Christian fundamentalism from Hitler's Aryan master racism.
The Bush/Rove view of science parallels that of Stalin. The Soviets
slaughtered researchers whose data failed to confirm their theories.
Today's GOP demands scientists fit their findings to the Bush/Rove
gospel. The Bush EPA, Fish & Wildlife Service and other agencies
routinely assault those who challenge corporate destruction of the
earth. Despite the long-standing consensus on global warming, Bush's
faith-based corporate-sponsored climatology insists CO2 emissions are
no problem, the scientific equivalent of claiming the Nazi Holocaust
never happened.
Like Hitler, Bush believes he talks to and for God. He has said at
least twice in public that he does not oppose dictatorship as long as
he can be the dictator. His family has long, well-documented financial
and political ties to the Nazi regime, as well as to Osama bin Laden
and a long list of oil-rich Islamic fundamentalists.
Senator Byrd's invocation of the Nazis to describe the Bush regime may
be considered impolitic. But it's folly to ignore the important
parallels.
By all accounts American democracy is hanging by a thin thread which
Bush/Rove is laboring mightily to cut.
Sen. Robert Byrd is a conservative, uniquely learned man. When he
equates Bush with Hitler, he speaks with great sadness and scholarship
-- and must be heeded.
As those "W" bumper stickers morph into swastikas in the killing fields
of Guantanamo, Iraq, and the American prison system, we must, at Sen.
Byrd's urging, revive recent history's most vital vow: "Never Again."
--
Many of Harvey Wasserman's relatives perished in the Nazi holocaust.
His HISTORY OF THE US is at www.harveywasserman.com.
.
User: "Wolfie"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 10 Mar 2005 02:22:39 PM
On 8 Mar 2005 07:32:07 -0800, "MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> crawled
out of a cave and shouted to the world thusly:


While Bush advocates for "democracy" overseas, the GOP is crushing it
at home

What gets me, is that a country with only two political parties can
call itself the bastion of democracy in the entire world. Most
democratic countries have more than three political parties from which
to choose.
Worse, the two political parties of the US look to outsiders like a
choice between Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum.
--Wolfie
.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 10 Mar 2005 09:35:00 PM
Wolfie <wolfy420spamtrap@telus.net> wrote:

On 8 Mar 2005 07:32:07 -0800, "MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> crawled
out of a cave and shouted to the world thusly:

While Bush advocates for "democracy" overseas, the GOP is crushing it at home

What gets me, is that a country with only two political parties can
call itself the bastion of democracy in the entire world. Most
democratic countries have more than three political parties from which
to choose.

Count them again, though: We have _one_ party in this country.
It's called "money."
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User: "Wolfie"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 10 Mar 2005 02:22:40 PM
On 8 Mar 2005 07:32:07 -0800, "MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> crawled
out of a cave and shouted to the world thusly:

Because the regime wraps itself in the rhetoric of our democratic
roots, it's emotionally difficult for Americans to equate Bush with
Hitler. He is not, after all, running death camps like the ones Hitler
used to exterminate millions of Jews, Gypsies, gays, unionists, Jehovah
Witnesses, the elderly and infirm, birth defected and handicapped. But

Yet. It took Hitler a few years to get going, too.

the distinction may be lost on the tens of thousands of Iraqis who have
died in the wholesale slaughter there, and whose land has been carpeted
with radioactive depleted uranium which will kill for centuries.

And this stuff is absolutely sick. That any world leader would
willingly do this and call himself the "good guy" is shocking.
The US seems to have become a rogue nation itself.
Paul Martin better watch out. If Bush decides he don't like him, WE
could be invaded next. I wouldn't doubt it. And I would be just as
vicious as any Iraqi in an attempt to remove American occupiers (just
as I would be against Moslem occupiers, or anyone else who presumed to
tell us how to run our own affairs.)
*****, I can't wait until marijuana is decriminalised here. The
bleatings and bitchings from the south will be quite amusing (or maybe
sickening). I hope the Liberal government completely legalises it,
like it's caucus recently recommended. That'd really tie Bush's
panties in a knot, wouldn't it?
--Wolfie
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 11 Mar 2005 11:17:36 AM
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:22:40 GMT, Wolfie <wolfy420spamtrap@telus.net>
wrote:

On 8 Mar 2005 07:32:07 -0800, "MrPepper11" <MrPepper11@go.com> crawled
out of a cave and shouted to the world thusly:

Because the regime wraps itself in the rhetoric of our democratic
roots, it's emotionally difficult for Americans to equate Bush with
Hitler. He is not, after all, running death camps like the ones Hitler
used to exterminate millions of Jews, Gypsies, gays, unionists, Jehovah
Witnesses, the elderly and infirm, birth defected and handicapped. But


Yet. It took Hitler a few years to get going, too.

the distinction may be lost on the tens of thousands of Iraqis who have
died in the wholesale slaughter there, and whose land has been carpeted
with radioactive depleted uranium which will kill for centuries.


And this stuff is absolutely sick. That any world leader would
willingly do this and call himself the "good guy" is shocking.

The US seems to have become a rogue nation itself.

Paul Martin better watch out. If Bush decides he don't like him, WE
could be invaded next. I wouldn't doubt it. And I would be just as
vicious as any Iraqi in an attempt to remove American occupiers (just
as I would be against Moslem occupiers, or anyone else who presumed to
tell us how to run our own affairs.)

*****, I can't wait until marijuana is decriminalised here. The
bleatings and bitchings from the south will be quite amusing (or maybe
sickening). I hope the Liberal government completely legalises it,
like it's caucus recently recommended. That'd really tie Bush's
panties in a knot, wouldn't it?

:D
I can then see the southern US states clamouring for the authorization
to utilize it for a replacement cash crop to take the place of
tobacco.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.



User: ""

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 07 Mar 2005 10:14:35 AM
Fredric L. Rice wrote:

You must be a rightard.

Awww, aren't you cute? Now run along and play.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
.


User: "Daniel Kolle"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 11:48:31 AM
On 4 Mar 2005 12:29:35 -0800,
thought hard and
said:


Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof


I didn't know that George W. Bush was in charge of appointing
prosecuting attorneys in the state of Kentucky. This
nonsense seems more of a zero-tolerance about school violence
issue,

Indeed.

and that's been going on since Columbine and before.
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet

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User: "Richard Smol"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 03:49:53 AM
Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for making
terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings" that got
him arrested are being taken out of context.

Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody Tuesday
morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's home that
outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police.

Thet discovered it *at his home*? So it hadn't even been shown to a
wider auddience? What's next? Half-Life map makers get arrested since
their creations involve shooting and killing aliens?
This also mean that all makers of violent TV shows can be arrested
now, since it depicts killing people?
RS
.
User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 12:21:47 PM
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:49:53 GMT, Richard Smol
<jazzcat@_NOSPAM_dds.nl> wrote:

Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for making
terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings" that got
him arrested are being taken out of context.

Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody Tuesday
morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's home that
outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police.

Thet discovered it *at his home*? So it hadn't even been shown to a
wider auddience? What's next? Half-Life map makers get arrested since
their creations involve shooting and killing aliens?

If shown on cable TV, the neo-fascist regime wants to fine the
station $500,000 per "violation." Howard Stern moving to cable
apparently ***** the American Treason Party because they can
no longer punish him for speaking his opinions under existing
braodcast laws.

This also mean that all makers of violent TV shows can be arrested
now, since it depicts killing people?

The police and DA in question must have felt they "had" to arrest
and investigate, otherwise they would be held liable if the
student was a threat and did go postal.

RS

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User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 08:50:43 AM
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 03:49:53 -0600, Richard Smol wrote
(in article <5hfWd.262637$PH1.133162@amsnews05.chello.com>):

Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for making
terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings" that got
him arrested are being taken out of context.

Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody Tuesday
morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's home that
outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police.


Thet discovered it *at his home*? So it hadn't even been shown to a
wider auddience? What's next? Half-Life map makers get arrested since
their creations involve shooting and killing aliens?

This also mean that all makers of violent TV shows can be arrested
now, since it depicts killing people?

How many movies were made during the 50's through the 80's that took place in
a high school? With zombies, vampires, space aliens, etc., taking over,
eating brains, setting out on world conquest? I know of at least several
dozen. Are the Kentucky police going to arrest anyone who rents or watches
one on cable?
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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 11:39:09 AM
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

How many movies were made during the 50's through the 80's that took place in
a high school? With zombies, vampires, space aliens, etc., taking over,
eating brains, setting out on world conquest? I know of at least several
dozen. Are the Kentucky police going to arrest anyone who rents or watches
one on cable?

"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" the original movie springs instantly to mind.
These Bush fascists are nothing if not criminal.
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User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 07 Mar 2005 01:36:38 AM
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 11:39:09 -0600, Fredric L. Rice wrote
(in article <112jro1t5v4r48d@corp.supernews.com>):

Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

How many movies were made during the 50's through the 80's that took place
in
a high school? With zombies, vampires, space aliens, etc., taking over,
eating brains, setting out on world conquest? I know of at least several
dozen. Are the Kentucky police going to arrest anyone who rents or watches
one on cable?


"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" the original movie springs instantly to mind.

These Bush fascists are nothing if not criminal.

Make that "several dozen and one." I never even thought of the Buffy movie,
or (several) series.
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User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 12:22:39 PM
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 08:50:43 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 03:49:53 -0600, Richard Smol wrote
(in article <5hfWd.262637$PH1.133162@amsnews05.chello.com>):

This also mean that all makers of violent TV shows can be arrested
now, since it depicts killing people?

How many movies were made during the 50's through the 80's that took place in
a high school? With zombies, vampires, space aliens, etc., taking over,
eating brains, setting out on world conquest? I know of at least several
dozen. Are the Kentucky police going to arrest anyone who rents or watches
one on cable?

Buffy the Vampire Slayer being a good example. "I had to let them
in: their seniors!"

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User: "johac"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 03:03:41 AM
In article <112hecctd5ijh55@corp.supernews.com>,
(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for making
terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings" that got
him arrested are being taken out of context.

Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody Tuesday
morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's home that
outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police.

Poole told LEX 18 that the whole incident is a big misunderstanding. He
claims that what his grandparents found in his journal and turned into
police was a short story he wrote for English class.

"My story is based on fiction," said Poole, who faces a second-degree
felony terrorist threatening charge. "It's a fake story. I made it up.
I've been working on one of my short stories, (and) the short story they
found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high school. It was about a
high school over ran by zombies."

Even so, police say the nature of the story makes it a felony. "Anytime you

make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a
felony in the state of Kentucky," said Winchester Police detective Steven
Caudill.

Poole disputes that he was threatening anyone.

"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention (George

Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing,"
said Poole. "Half the people at high school know me. They know I'm not that

stupid, that crazy."

On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five thousand dollars
after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of the charge.

Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.

But the story was about zombies! Hasn't anyone told the Kentucky police
that zombies don't exist?
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User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 12:17:27 PM
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:03:41 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com>
wrote:

In article <112hecctd5ijh55@corp.supernews.com>,
FRice@SkepticTank.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

But the story was about zombies! Hasn't anyone told the Kentucky
police that zombies don't exist?

If people can believe that gods exist, then they can believe that
zombies exist.
What is so ***** fucking amazing is that the DA's office wails
about "the seriousness of the charge" when it's so bloody absurd
and insane and utterly frivolous.
Of course if the student were a Democrat politician he would be
impeached and cruicified.
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 06 Mar 2005 02:47:49 AM
In article <38ubf1F5sptopU2@individual.net>,
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:03:41 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com>
wrote:

In article <112hecctd5ijh55@corp.supernews.com>,
FRice@SkepticTank.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:


Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof


But the story was about zombies! Hasn't anyone told the Kentucky
police that zombies don't exist?


If people can believe that gods exist, then they can believe that
zombies exist.

What is so ***** fucking amazing is that the DA's office wails
about "the seriousness of the charge" when it's so bloody absurd
and insane and utterly frivolous.

I think that this is just more of this 'zero tolerance' lunacy. Zero
tolerance = zero common sense.


Of course if the student were a Democrat politician he would be
impeached and cruicified.

Then impaled and burnt at the stake.


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User: "desertphile@hot mail. com Desertphile, American Patriot"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 06 Mar 2005 09:35:24 AM
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 00:47:49 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com>
wrote:

In article <38ubf1F5sptopU2@individual.net>,
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:

Of course if the student were a Democrat politician he would be
impeached and cruicified.

Then impaled and burnt at the stake.

Then the asked jumped on until... until... until he's had enough!
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 06 Mar 2005 11:08:36 PM
In article <390m9uF5rc68lU2@individual.net>,
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 00:47:49 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com>
wrote:

In article <38ubf1F5sptopU2@individual.net>,
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:


Of course if the student were a Democrat politician he would be
impeached and cruicified.


Then impaled and burnt at the stake.


Then the asked jumped on until... until... until he's had enough!

Then sent to bed without his supper.
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Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 06 Mar 2005 10:33:34 AM
desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote:

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:03:41 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:

In article <112hecctd5ijh55@corp.supernews.com>,
FRice@SkepticTank.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

Student Arrested For Terroristic Threatening Says Incident A
Misunderstanding
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof

But the story was about zombies! Hasn't anyone told the Kentucky
police that zombies don't exist?

If people can believe that gods exist, then they can believe that zombies exist.
What is so ***** fucking amazing is that the DA's office wails
about "the seriousness of the charge" when it's so bloody absurd
and insane and utterly frivolous.

These rightard fascists have to do _something_ to justify taking
our tax dollars.
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User: "Heretic"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 05 Mar 2005 03:57:53 AM
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:03:41 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:

But the story was about zombies! Hasn't anyone told the Kentucky police
that zombies don't exist?


While they are at it, they can explain how God doesn't exist, either.
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 06 Mar 2005 02:50:04 AM
In article <nj0j219tsjtrodvuak1h9ql0jue09t82ra@4ax.com>,
Heretic <pashdfpihsd_heretic@unrealitycheck.com> wrote:

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:03:41 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:

But the story was about zombies! Hasn't anyone told the Kentucky police
that zombies don't exist?


While they are at it, they can explain how God doesn't exist, either.

Well, I suppose by some definitions, their Jeezus was a zombie.
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User: "Wolfie"

Title: Re: More fascism under Bush: Zombies not allowed 10 Mar 2005 02:22:38 PM
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 19:38:46 GMT,
(Fredric L.
Rice) crawled out of a cave and shouted to the world thusly:


A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for making
terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings" that got
him arrested are being taken out of context.

Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody Tuesday
morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's home that
outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police.

Poole told LEX 18 that the whole incident is a big misunderstanding. He
claims that what his grandparents found in his journal and turned into
police was a short story he wrote for English class.

"My story is based on fiction," said Poole, who faces a second-degree
felony terrorist threatening charge. "It's a fake story. I made it up.
I've been working on one of my short stories, (and) the short story they
found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high school. It was about a
high school over ran by zombies."

Hmm. A couple of years ago, a high-schooler was arrrested in Ontario
for what was a purely fictional story he read to his English class as
part of an assignment. The kid was a bully magnet, and his story had
to do with a similar - but fictional - kid who got fed up and planted
bombs in various trashcans. The story, from what I gathered of it,
didn't even feature the explosions - the end came when the reader
realises his act - as the character drops a time bomb into the
cafeteria garbage.
It was merely a cry for help, this story, if it was anything. I think
he still got charged, even though many famous professional Canadian
writers backed him up - including the recently late Pierre Burton
(I'll miss you, man), Margaret Atwood, and Farley Mowat.
I used to write similar, but because even as a kid I wrote in
fables/parables involving animals, mine got overlooked. As animal or
other creature stories usually are (I love sci-fi for this. You can
say anything, and the dummies will dismiss it as "kid's fare" just
because it's being said by a non-human character.)
--Wolfie
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