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User: "An Evil Meme"
Date: 03 Sep 2003 01:28:44 PM
Object: More fun in Xian chatrooms
Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.
I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.
The topic was the evils of abortion and fornication (yeah in a born again
chatroom what were the odds?) and the topic turned to how evil contraception
such as IUD's, the pill and RU486 are. I foolishly piped in because no
contraceptive is 100% effective and because of our ages my wife and I didn't
want another child so I opted for a vasectomy.
Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!" was a more or less
typical response. I laughed my so hard I nearly fell out of my chair, but the
episode does raise some questions. Namely when did the uber-xians make the
jump from abortion being evil to contraception being evil? What's next? Will
celibecy become evil? Second I thought sex within the bounds of a "traditional
marrage" was okay? But sex within marrage after a minor medical procedure is
now "lustful urges?" Anyone have a clue what their logic is on this?
If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.
Stephen
.

User: "Terry Austin"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 03 Sep 2003 01:50:47 PM
(An Evil Meme) wrote in
news:20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com:

"You a have defied God's word
and mutilated your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!"

"Well, yeah, what's your point? Of *course* I did just that. You wouldn't
believe how much sex I get now!"
--
Larry Flynt for Governor
Bringing dignity back to the Governor's Mansion
Terry Austin
taustin@hyperbooks.com
.

User: "Woden"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 03 Sep 2003 07:11:38 PM
(An Evil Meme) wrote in
news:20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com:

Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told
today in a Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery?
Coveting my neighbors livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments
are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

The topic was the evils of abortion and fornication (yeah in a born
again chatroom what were the odds?) and the topic turned to how evil
contraception such as IUD's, the pill and RU486 are. I foolishly
piped in because no contraceptive is 100% effective and because of our
ages my wife and I didn't want another child so I opted for a
vasectomy.

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some
with the most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word
and mutilated your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!"
was a more or less typical response. I laughed my so hard I nearly
fell out of my chair, but the episode does raise some questions.
Namely when did the uber-xians make the jump from abortion being evil
to contraception being evil? What's next? Will celibecy become evil?
Second I thought sex within the bounds of a "traditional marrage" was
okay? But sex within marrage after a minor medical procedure is now
"lustful urges?" Anyone have a clue what their logic is on this?

If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post
them, money can't buy entertainment like this.

Stephen

Why do refrains of "Every sperm is sacred" keep running through my mind?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.
User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 10:20:07 AM
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 00:11:38 -0000, several witnesses claim to have
seen Woden <woden@charter.net> scrawl a message on the wall:

Why do refrains of "Every sperm is sacred" keep running through my mind?

Because you're a sick individual?
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/monty-python/every-sperm-is-sacred.html
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.
--
Douglas Berry

http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
.
User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 10:37:43 AM
Douglas Berry wrote:

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 00:11:38 -0000, several witnesses claim to have
seen Woden <woden@charter.net> scrawl a message on the wall:

Why do refrains of "Every sperm is sacred" keep running through my mind?


Because you're a sick individual?

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/monty-python/every-sperm-is-sacred.html

Nice site, but please: warn us of pop-up hells, ok?
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
.
User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 07:40:26 PM
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 08:37:43 -0700, several witnesses claim to have
seen Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> scrawl a message on the wall:

Douglas Berry wrote:

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 00:11:38 -0000, several witnesses claim to have
seen Woden <woden@charter.net> scrawl a message on the wall:

Why do refrains of "Every sperm is sacred" keep running through my mind?


Because you're a sick individual?

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/monty-python/every-sperm-is-sacred.html


Nice site, but please: warn us of pop-up hells, ok?

I use Mozilla so I never see them. Sorry.
--
Douglas Berry

http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
.




User: "trifold"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 09:03:31 AM
(An Evil Meme) wrote in message news:


If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.

The Catholic Church (among others) has long opposed all forms of
contraception (not to mention masturbation, homosexuality, oral sex)
on the grounds that god (sometimes they say "nature") invented sex to
make babies. So having sex under conditions that make conception
impossible is to "de-nature" sex (or maybe they would say "un-god"
it). The "rythm method" (only fucking during those days when the
woman is less likely to be fertile) is tolerated, presumably because
of its high failure rate and because it imposes a kind of suffering on
both parties. If you argue that sex has other value than making
babies--for example, expressing love within a monogamous, committed
relationship--they are likely to agree, but to insist that
"artificially" separating sex from its procreative function voids its
capacity to do good in other respects; in fact, contraceptive sex, I
have been told, results in a general degradation of all social
relations, since it severs the link between pleasure and the
generation of new life and the mutual obligations imposed by the
creation of new life. This analysis, it seems to me, relies on a very
narrow understanding of what motivates good social relations, not to
mention an over emphasis on the role of sex in the generation (and
sustaining) of new life: after all, people commit to one another--and
to children--even when no sex is involved. (In theory, nuns and
priests are good examples.) The analysis also betrays a deep
suspicion of pleasure, insisting pleasure is dangerous unless it has
some justifying purpose. Why can't pleasure be understood as a good
in itself? (Some would argue priests--not to mention altar
boys--would benefit if priests indulged a little more on their own!)
Certainly I prefer the perspective of an Episcopal priest I know, who
confided that the more he thought about it, the more he was convinced
that God doesn't really care what we do with our genitals.
trifold
http://www.vasectomy-information.com
.

User: "sparkup"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 09:32:19 AM
An Evil Meme wrote:

Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

The topic was the evils of abortion and fornication (yeah in a born again
chatroom what were the odds?) and the topic turned to how evil contraception
such as IUD's, the pill and RU486 are. I foolishly piped in because no
contraceptive is 100% effective and because of our ages my wife and I didn't
want another child so I opted for a vasectomy.

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!"

And what were the unchristian comments? /grin
.

User: "*Nemo*"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 03 Sep 2003 04:54:40 PM
In article <20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com>,
(An Evil Meme) wrote:

Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell!

Get in line, dude. I've been on that road for decades, I think.

Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

That's new to me. You talking to Catholics or something?

The topic was the evils of abortion and fornication (yeah in a born again
chatroom what were the odds?) and the topic turned to how evil contraception
such as IUD's, the pill and RU486 are. I foolishly piped in because no
contraceptive is 100% effective and because of our ages my wife and I didn't
want another child so I opted for a vasectomy.

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!" was a more or less
typical response.

Bloody puritans. Mutilating a baby penis is OK, but doing something to
guard against unwanted events... that's bad.
Sounds like these folks were fucked up - in the worst sense of the term.

I laughed my so hard I nearly fell out of my chair, but the
episode does raise some questions. Namely when did the uber-xians make the
jump from abortion being evil to contraception being evil?

The Catholics have been that way for centuries. It's nothing new, mon.
<snip>

If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.

Perhaps someone can put together an anthology of weird-***** xian quotes
ofrom the net for a fun book. I bet people would got wild for that.

Stephen

Anyone who uses this idea, I expect a share of hhe take.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 03 Sep 2003 10:20:45 PM
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:54:40 GMT, *Nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.NOSPMPLS.com>
posted in alt.atheism:

Perhaps someone can put together an anthology of weird-***** xian quotes
ofrom the net for a fun book. I bet people would got wild for that.
Anyone who uses this idea, I expect a share of hhe take.

The buy bull's already in the public domain.
--
"We should do unto others as we would want them to do unto us. If I were an unborn
fetus I would want others to use force to protect me, therefore using force against
abortionists is *justifiable homocide*."
- "Pro-Life" doctor killer Paul Hill
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
.


User: "johac"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 01:04:59 AM
In article <20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com>,
(An Evil Meme) wrote:

Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

The topic was the evils of abortion and fornication (yeah in a born again
chatroom what were the odds?) and the topic turned to how evil contraception
such as IUD's, the pill and RU486 are. I foolishly piped in because no
contraceptive is 100% effective and because of our ages my wife and I didn't
want another child so I opted for a vasectomy.

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!" was a more or less
typical response. I laughed my so hard I nearly fell out of my chair, but
the
episode does raise some questions. Namely when did the uber-xians make the
jump from abortion being evil to contraception being evil? What's next?
Will
celibecy become evil? Second I thought sex within the bounds of a
"traditional
marrage" was okay? But sex within marrage after a minor medical procedure is
now "lustful urges?" Anyone have a clue what their logic is on this?

*GAWD* wants you to make more souls to be happy with him in heaven
wherever the <bleep> that is. The churches want more members to
'donate' more money. The priests want more altar boys to shag. The
rest of them are so miserable that they just want company.


If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.

I was born into a xtian family, attended 12 years of Catholic school,
and was a believer until I was 21. You wouldn't believe some of the
weird conversations that I had.


Stephen

--
John Hachmann, aa #1782

Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
.

User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 03 Sep 2003 03:50:27 PM
In article <20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com>, An Evil Meme says...


Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

The topic was the evils of abortion and fornication (yeah in a born again
chatroom what were the odds?) and the topic turned to how evil contraception
such as IUD's, the pill and RU486 are. I foolishly piped in because no
contraceptive is 100% effective and because of our ages my wife and I didn't
want another child so I opted for a vasectomy.

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!" was a more or less
typical response. I laughed my so hard I nearly fell out of my chair, but the
episode does raise some questions. Namely when did the uber-xians make the
jump from abortion being evil to contraception being evil? What's next? Will
celibecy become evil? Second I thought sex within the bounds of a "traditional
marrage" was okay? But sex within marrage after a minor medical procedure is
now "lustful urges?" Anyone have a clue what their logic is on this?

If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.

I've never run into a situation like this, but it looks like I'll be joining you
in Hell due to the fact that I had a tubal ligation two years ago.
I'll be the one wearing the red carnation ;D


Stephen

Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
.
User: "Liz"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 03 Sep 2003 09:53:34 PM
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:50:27 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
in news message <nus5b.18494$cJ5.2438@www.newsranger.com> wrote:

In article <20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com>, An Evil Meme says...


Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

[-----]

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!"

[-----]

If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.


I've never run into a situation like this, but it looks like I'll be joining you
in Hell due to the fact that I had a tubal ligation two years ago.

I'll be the one wearing the red carnation ;D

I'm double damned. I'm both postmenopausal and surgically sterilized.
Triple damned. I'm not married. :)
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 09:45:46 AM
In article <re9dlvgjhqacj6k6cv3vlacllc2m012l1j@4ax.com>, Liz says...


On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:50:27 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
in news message <nus5b.18494$cJ5.2438@www.newsranger.com> wrote:

In article <20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com>, An Evil Meme says...


Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

[-----]

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!"

[-----]

If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.


I've never run into a situation like this, but it looks like I'll be joining you
in Hell due to the fact that I had a tubal ligation two years ago.

I'll be the one wearing the red carnation ;D


I'm double damned. I'm both postmenopausal and surgically sterilized.
Triple damned. I'm not married. :)

Well, in that case, you're in charge of the party favors! :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
.
User: "J.R."

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 11:37:58 AM
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<ueI5b.18586$cJ5.2529@www.newsranger.com>...

In article <re9dlvgjhqacj6k6cv3vlacllc2m012l1j@4ax.com>, Liz says...


On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:50:27 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
in news message <nus5b.18494$cJ5.2438@www.newsranger.com> wrote:

In article <20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com>, An Evil Meme says...


Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

[-----]

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!"

[-----]

If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.


I've never run into a situation like this, but it looks like I'll be joining you
in Hell due to the fact that I had a tubal ligation two years ago.

I'll be the one wearing the red carnation ;D


I'm double damned. I'm both postmenopausal and surgically sterilized.
Triple damned. I'm not married. :)


Well, in that case, you're in charge of the party favors! :)

Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557

Good. I need a new party favor. I just wore mine out.
.


User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 08:07:34 AM
Liz wrote:

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:50:27 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
in news message <nus5b.18494$cJ5.2438@www.newsranger.com> wrote:

In article <20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com>, An Evil Meme says...


Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

[-----]

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!"

[-----]

If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.


I've never run into a situation like this, but it looks like I'll be joining you
in Hell due to the fact that I had a tubal ligation two years ago.

I'll be the one wearing the red carnation ;D


I'm double damned. I'm both postmenopausal and surgically sterilized.
Triple damned. I'm not married. :)

I can have unprotected sex with a prostitute (thus leaving open the chance for
procreation), and I am not committing anywhere near the sin I am by having sex with a
male lover in the context of a committed, mutually monogamous relationship. Funny how
that works out.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
.
User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 05 Sep 2003 06:55:55 PM
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:40:56 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

I can have unprotected sex with a prostitute (thus leaving open the chance for
procreation), and I am not committing anywhere near the sin I am by having sex with a
male lover in the context of a committed, mutually monogamous relationship. Funny how
that works out.


Who says that males can't get pregnant? With God®, all things are
possible. Just keeping trying until one of you conceives.

No thanks, sweatheart! You carry it? You keep it! :-)
.
User: "Liz"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 05 Sep 2003 07:55:55 PM
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 06:55:55 +0700, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> in news message
<jutglvktatiuue7i976djdamcb06ovo67d@4ax.com> wrote:

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:40:56 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

I can have unprotected sex with a prostitute (thus leaving open the chance for
procreation), and I am not committing anywhere near the sin I am by having sex with a
male lover in the context of a committed, mutually monogamous relationship. Funny how
that works out.


Who says that males can't get pregnant? With God®, all things are
possible. Just keeping trying until one of you conceives.

No thanks, sweatheart! You carry it? You keep it! :-)

LOL It's the thought that counts (at least, in Christianity, it is).
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
.




User: "Tink"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 06:47:17 AM
Robibnikoff wrote:

In article <20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com>, An Evil Meme says...

Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

The topic was the evils of abortion and fornication (yeah in a born again
chatroom what were the odds?) and the topic turned to how evil contraception
such as IUD's, the pill and RU486 are. I foolishly piped in because no
contraceptive is 100% effective and because of our ages my wife and I didn't
want another child so I opted for a vasectomy.

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!" was a more or less
typical response. I laughed my so hard I nearly fell out of my chair, but the
episode does raise some questions. Namely when did the uber-xians make the
jump from abortion being evil to contraception being evil? What's next? Will
celibecy become evil? Second I thought sex within the bounds of a "traditional
marrage" was okay? But sex within marrage after a minor medical procedure is
now "lustful urges?" Anyone have a clue what their logic is on this?

If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.



I've never run into a situation like this, but it looks like I'll be joining you
in Hell due to the fact that I had a tubal ligation two years ago.

I'll be the one wearing the red carnation ;D

Stephen



Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557

I too joined the ranks of the unleaded a few years ago. Looks like
there's going to be a great party! ;-)
--
It seems odd that those who scoff at sun worshippers are apt to worship
a vacuum.
The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS# 8808
EAC Chairman, Division of Skydiving and Sushi consumption.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 08:02:56 AM
In article <4Iadnbr-1qLYu8qiXTWJkA@comcast.com>, Tink says...




Robibnikoff wrote:

In article <20030903142844.03375.00000468@mb-m11.aol.com>, An Evil Meme says...

Hi, I'm a sinner and I'm going straight to hell! Or so I was told today in a
Christian chat room. My crime? Murder? Adultery? Coveting my neighbors
livestock? Or whatever the other 7 Comandments are? Nope.

I'm going to hell for having a vasectomy.

The topic was the evils of abortion and fornication (yeah in a born again
chatroom what were the odds?) and the topic turned to how evil contraception
such as IUD's, the pill and RU486 are. I foolishly piped in because no
contraceptive is 100% effective and because of our ages my wife and I didn't
want another child so I opted for a vasectomy.

Over a dozen people attacked me for having the procedure done, some with the
most un-Christian of language. "You a have defied God's word and mutilated
your body just so you can satisfy your lustful urges!" was a more or less
typical response. I laughed my so hard I nearly fell out of my chair, but the
episode does raise some questions. Namely when did the uber-xians make the
jump from abortion being evil to contraception being evil? What's next? Will
celibecy become evil? Second I thought sex within the bounds of a "traditional
marrage" was okay? But sex within marrage after a minor medical procedure is
now "lustful urges?" Anyone have a clue what their logic is on this?

If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.



I've never run into a situation like this, but it looks like I'll be joining you
in Hell due to the fact that I had a tubal ligation two years ago.

I'll be the one wearing the red carnation ;D

Stephen



Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557



I too joined the ranks of the unleaded a few years ago. Looks like
there's going to be a great party! ;-)

Indeed - You bring the beer, I'll bring the wine and cheese ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
.



User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 03 Sep 2003 04:21:47 PM
On 03 Sep 2003 18:28:44 GMT, several witnesses claim to have seen
anevilmeme@aol.com (An Evil Meme) scrawl a message on the wall:

If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.

I'm sterile and have a very low sex drive because of my cancer. I've
been told that with prayer I could become a father. When I tell them
that I don't have the energy to be a parent, and I wouldn't burden a
child with a father who could sicken and die at any time, they scream
that I'm going to Hell.
--
Douglas Berry

http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
.
User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 03 Sep 2003 06:14:52 PM


If anyone else has had conversations this weird with Xians please post them,
money can't buy entertainment like this.


I'm sterile and have a very low sex drive because of my cancer. I've
been told that with prayer I could become a father. When I tell them
that I don't have the energy to be a parent, and I wouldn't burden a
child with a father who could sicken and die at any time, they scream
that I'm going to Hell.

I had a vasectomy because after the nearly tragic birth of my youngest son (we
almost lost them both on the table) my wife's doctors told me that another
pregnancy would very likely kill her. I had the procedure done because I value
life, specifically the life of my spouse and the welfare of my children.
These fundies don't give a rat's ***** about life or happiness...the only thing
they care about is control and domination.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Ill-Legal Dept. "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here"
"My country, right or wrong; to be defended when right and righted when wrong."
- Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 03 Sep 2003 10:19:38 PM
On 03 Sep 2003 23:14:52 GMT, forlornh@aol.commode (Lord Calvert)
posted in alt.atheism:

These fundies don't give a rat's ***** about life or happiness...the only thing
they care about is control and domination.

Stop giving domination a bad name. :)
BTW, glad to hear that your son and wife pulled through.
--
"Creationists are the best evidence we have that there is no intelligent design."
-Josef Ballu
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
.
User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 10:11:20 AM

These fundies don't give a rat's ***** about life or happiness...the only

thing

they care about is control and domination.


Stop giving domination a bad name. :)

Where there's a whip there's a way? :}


BTW, glad to hear that your son and wife pulled through.

He just started 7th grade yesterday...it was a while ago. We were fortunate to
live in a city (Buffalo) with an exceptionally skilled children's hospital and
ICN. Still, it was 10 weeks before he got out of the hospital.
On his birthday every year we make presentations of preemie hats and sweaters
for the little ones and a cake for the staff who work so hard. This year we
finally got to see his primary care nurse for the first time in twelve years.
Still overworked and underpaid but would be nowhere else. Also got a private
tour of the new facility which the VIPs didn't even get!
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Ill-Legal Dept. "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here"
"My country, right or wrong; to be defended when right and righted when wrong."
- Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 10:36:16 AM
Lord Calvert wrote:

These fundies don't give a rat's ***** about life or happiness...the only

thing

they care about is control and domination.


Stop giving domination a bad name. :)


Where there's a whip there's a way? :}

I believe the line is "Where there's a whip, there's a willing."
Not that I would know :-P
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 11:58:44 AM
In article <3F575BF0.D2F093AF@serv.net>, Gregory Gadow says...


Lord Calvert wrote:

These fundies don't give a rat's ***** about life or happiness...the only

thing

they care about is control and domination.


Stop giving domination a bad name. :)


Where there's a whip there's a way? :}


I believe the line is "Where there's a whip, there's a willing."

Not that I would know :-P

<Chuckle> I always remember "Sticks and stone can break my bones, but whips and
chain excite me".
That that I would, ahem, know either ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
.
User: "Liz"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 05:48:23 PM
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 16:58:44 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
in news message <8bK5b.18646$cJ5.2528@www.newsranger.com> wrote:

In article <3F575BF0.D2F093AF@serv.net>, Gregory Gadow says...


Lord Calvert wrote:

These fundies don't give a rat's ***** about life or happiness...the only

thing

they care about is control and domination.


Stop giving domination a bad name. :)


Where there's a whip there's a way? :}


I believe the line is "Where there's a whip, there's a willing."

Not that I would know :-P


<Chuckle> I always remember "Sticks and stone can break my bones, but whips and
chain excite me".

That that I would, ahem, know either ;)

Shopping list for party favors:
1) whips
2) whipped cream
Oh good, we could have a theme party.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 04 Sep 2003 10:25:42 PM
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:48:23 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> posted in
alt.atheism:

Shopping list for party favors:
1) whips
2) whipped cream
Oh good, we could have a theme party.

Don't forget the bouquet of thorns.
--
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid
consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and
ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who
works on the basis of reward and punishment. "
- Letter to M. Berkowitz, October 25, 1950; Einstein Archive 59-215
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
.
User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 05 Sep 2003 08:20:03 AM
Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:48:23 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> posted in
alt.atheism:

Shopping list for party favors:


1) whips
2) whipped cream


Oh good, we could have a theme party.


Don't forget the bouquet of thorns.

And now, for another Tom Lehrer moment....
Another familiar type of lovesong is the passionate or firy variety, usually in tango
tempo, in which the singer exhorts his partner to haunt him and taunt him and, if at all
possible, to consume him with a kiss of fire. This particular illustration of this genre
is called The Masochism Tango.
I ache for the touch of your lips, Dear,
But much more for the touch of your whips, Dear.
You can raise welts
Like nobody else,
As we dance to the Masochism Tango.
Let our love be a flame, not an ember,
Say it's me that you want to dismember.
Blacken my eye,
Set fire to my tie,
As we dance to the Masochism Tango.
At your command
Before you here I stand,
My heart is in my hand. Ecch!
It's here that I must be.
My heart entreats,
Just hear those savage beats,
And go put on your cleats
And come and trample me.
Your heart is hard as stone or mahogany,
That's why I'm in such exquisite agony.
My soul is on fire,
It's aflame with desire,
Which is why I perspire
When we tango.
You caught my nose
In your left castanet, Love,
I can feel the pain yet, Love,
Ev'ry time I hear drums.
And I envy the rose
That you held in your teeth, Love,
With the thorns underneath, Love,
Sticking into your gums.
Your eyes cast a spell that bewitches.
The last time I needed twenty stitches
To sew up the gash
That you made with your lash,
As we danced to the Masochism Tango.
Bash in my brain,
And make me scream with pain,
Then kick me once again,
And say we'll never part.
I know too well
I'm underneath your spell,
So, Darling, if you smell
Something burning, it's my heart.
Excuse me!
Take your cigarette from its holder,
And burn your initials in my shoulder.
Fracture my spine,
And swear that you're mine,
As we dance to the Masochism Tango.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
Is your faith so weak and your god so powerless
that, without government endorsement of your
religion, all hell will break loose?
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 05 Sep 2003 08:26:37 PM
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 06:20:03 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
posted in alt.atheism:

And now, for another Tom Lehrer moment....
Another familiar type of lovesong is the passionate or firy variety, usually in tango
tempo, in which the singer exhorts his partner to haunt him and taunt him and, if at all
possible, to consume him with a kiss of fire. This particular illustration of this genre
is called The Masochism Tango.

This one's going to my favorite masochist. Thanks.
--
"If we really know Truth, we do not fear hearing falsehoods or half-truths; if we are not sure of the truth - we shudder and try to shout down every utterance." - A. J. Mims
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: More fun in Xian chatrooms 05 Sep 2003 10:41:03 AM
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 06:20:03 -0700, several witnesses claim to have
seen Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> scrawl a message on the wall:

Another familiar type of lovesong is the passionate or firy variety, usually in tango
tempo, in which the singer exhorts his partner to haunt him and taunt him and, if at all
possible, to consume him with a kiss of fire. This particular illustration of this genre
is called The Masochism Tango.

At the 1993 World Science Fiction Convention, one of the entrant is
the Masquerade was two Klingons, one male, one female, lip syncing
this song. It was called "A Quiet Night At Home." They didn't win,
but they had the audience in stiches.
So to speak.
--
Douglas Berry

http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
.











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