Robert Weldon wrote:

"Nashton" <nananan@nb.ca> wrote in message
news:M24vg.11956$pu3.276397@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...

Murf wrote:

J. Spaceman posted the stuff on Mr Hovind

Thanks for posting the news again Mr Spaceman a great service

Secondly -

There MUST be a film in this about creationists - the Dover case,
Hovind, Behr etc etc

"Talibangelical - : the Movie"


Surely the mainstream US christian viewpoint of the creationists must
be at an all time low (Im writing from the UK). Is the mainstream
church (like the CoE in the UK) embarrsefd by the nutty Noahs Arc/ID
crowd?

R

How about "Dawson - The Fraud."
Surely the mainstream scientific viewpoint of the evolutionist must be at
an all time low (I'm writing from Canada).


--
Nicolas

Richard Dawson, longtime host of Family Feud, was a fraud? explain please.
And, sorry, no matter how much you wish it to be, evolution is under no
threat from the fundies.

I was at college with a Canadian mathematician called Rob Dawson, but
he seemed an ethical sort of chap, unlikely to defraud anyone. From my
experience he is more typical of Canadians than is Nicola.

Maybe he means Les Dawson, the late English comedian. Possibly Nicola
is massage therapist to the Roly Polies.

The Last Conformist wrote:

Nashton wrote:

Murf wrote:

J. Spaceman posted the stuff on Mr Hovind

Thanks for posting the news again Mr Spaceman a great service

Secondly -

There MUST be a film in this about creationists - the Dover case,
Hovind, Behr etc etc

"Talibangelical - : the Movie"


Surely the mainstream US christian viewpoint of the creationists
must be at an all time low (Im writing from the UK). Is the
mainstream church (like the CoE in the UK) embarrsefd by the
nutty Noahs Arc/ID crowd?

R

How about "Dawson - The Fraud."
Surely the mainstream scientific viewpoint of the evolutionist must
be at an all time low (I'm writing from Canada).

I didn't realize that Canada meant Fantasy Pie Land in the Sky.

Nashy lives in Cow Pie land.

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:45:23 +0000, Gospel Bretts wrote:

On 19 Jul 2006 14:33:52 -0700, "VoiceOfReason" <papa_fox@cybertown.com>
wrote:

Murf wrote:

J. Spaceman posted the stuff on Mr Hovind

Thanks for posting the news again Mr Spaceman a great service

Secondly -

There MUST be a film in this about creationists - the Dover case,
Hovind, Behr etc etc

"Talibangelical - : the Movie"


Surely the mainstream US christian viewpoint of the creationists must
be at an all time low (Im writing from the UK). Is the mainstream
church (like the CoE in the UK) embarrsefd by the nutty Noahs Arc/ID
crowd?

IMO, to most US Christians, the Creto-IDiots are very much like the wierd
uncle that nobody talks about.

I would hope you're right about that, but I don't think so. It appears
from where I'm sitting that most xians are creationists.

Where are you sitting? According to the 2005 Yearbook of American and
Canadian Churches, cited at http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html , these
are the ten largest Christian denominations in the US, with approximate
sizes:

1. Roman Catholic Church: 67.2 million.
2. Southern Baptist Convention: 16.4 million.
3. United Methodist Church: 8.2 million.
4. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: 5.5 million.
5. Church of God in Christ: 5.4 million.
6. National Baptist Convention USA: 5 million.
7. Evangelical Lutheran Church in America: 4.9 million.
8. National Baptist Convention of America: 3.5 million.
9. Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.): 3.2 million.
10. Assemblies of God: 2.7 million.

This list differs slightly from the one put together by adherents.com
itself, which does not list the National Baptist Convention USA, and
which lists the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod as #10 with a
membership of 2.1 million. However you count them, Creationist
denominations are in the minority in that list.

Southern Baptists, Assemblies of God, and Missouri Synod Lutherans
are the only denominations on the list whose official doctrines
endorse Creationism. It seems, anecdotally, that many Mormons (Latter-Day
Saints) believe some kind of Creationism, but there is no official
denominational position, and Mormonism in general is not opposed to
real science. Seventh-Day Adventists may add another million or so
to the Creationist count. So if we add up all those numbers, splitting
the Mormons 50-50 and estimating 1 million Seventh-Day Adventists,
I get 25 million Creationists.

The Church of God In Christ and the two National Baptist Conventions
are unclassified. I can't tell where they come down on the issue; they
don't seem to have official positions. 13.9 million unknown.

I don't even have to do the rest of the arithmetic; even if all those
unknowns turn out to be Creationists, they still don't begin to challenge
the numbers of Catholics, Methodists, Presbyterians, and Evangelical
Lutherans; and that's before we begin to count the Episcopalians,
American Baptists, United Church of Christ Congregationalists, Quakers,
Eastern Orthodox, and other denominations that didn't make the Top
Eleven.

There's some good information on various denominations' positions
on evolution at
http://webusers.xula.edu/cporter/2000n/evolution_and_religion.htm ,
although it's odd to see the Southern Baptist Convention classified
under "does not state a clear position".