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"Budikka" |
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30 Aug 2003 02:51:56 PM |
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More Killed Than in The World Trade Center |
On September 11th 2001, some 3,000 people died in the terror attacks
aimed at the USA.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3190585.stm
reveals that 11,435 people died in France in the first two weeks of
August as a result of a grossly inept response to the heat wave that
Europe went through.
Where is the outrage at this? Is this somehow a lesser horror than
September 11th? Are these people somehow trivial because they weren't
American, or because it didn't happen on the same day by means of
planes flying into solid objects?
Or is it okay that ineptitude and neglect is allowed to slaughter
almost four times the number that terrorists killed that day?
Compared with what we do to ourselves by sheer bungling incompetence,
terrorism is trivial. If I were a terrorist, I'd sit back, relax, and
do nothing. Why put myself out when the West is doing more to harm
itself than the terrorists can ever hope to do?
Budikka
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: More Killed Than in The World Trade Center |
30 Aug 2003 11:30:50 PM |
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"Budikka" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote
Where is the outrage at this?
Does this mean that you're not outraged?
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| User: "Jenny6833A" |
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| Title: Re: More Killed Than in The World Trade Center |
30 Aug 2003 03:40:42 PM |
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(Budikka) says
On September 11th 2001, some 3,000 people died in the terror attacks
aimed at the USA.
Old news.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3190585.stm
reveals that 11,435 people died in France in the first two weeks of
August ...
That's also old news. You're not keeping up.
You see, it was damn hot in France. The worst heat wave in roughly 100 years.
... as a result of a grossly inept response to the heat wave that
Europe went through.
Grossly inept? How so? If you'd been in charge in Paris, would you have
started calling people back from vacation after one or two hot days? I'll bet
you wouldn't have.
Where is the outrage at this?
There's considerable outrage in France, most of it misplaced.
Is this somehow a lesser horror than
September 11th?
I'd say they're both about the same as the US attacks on _________ (fill in the
blank).
Are these people somehow trivial because they weren't
American, or because it didn't happen on the same day by means of
planes flying into solid objects?
You're really working yourself into a lather.
Skip the self-injected outrage, and offer some solutions.
Exactly, precisely what would YOU have done?
Or is it okay that ineptitude and neglect is allowed to slaughter
almost four times the number that terrorists killed that day?
Ineptitude and neglect? Slaughter? Get real, Sonny.
Compared with what we do to ourselves by sheer bungling incompetence,
terrorism is trivial.
You're repeating yourself. And you still haven't offered any solutions. You
still haven't said what you'd have done and when you'd have done it.
If I were a terrorist, I'd sit back, relax, and
do nothing.
Which is exactly what you'd have done if you'd been in charge in Paris.
You're just another Monday morning quarterback who doesn't even have his facts
straight.
Sheeeesh!
:-)
Jenny
Before emailing, remove Clothes
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: More Killed Than in The World Trade Center |
30 Aug 2003 07:38:58 PM |
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(Budikka) thought hard and said:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3190585.stm
reveals that 11,435 people died in France in the first two weeks of
August as a result of a grossly inept response to the heat wave that
Europe went through.
Bush did it.
--
-Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: More Killed Than in The World Trade Center |
31 Aug 2003 12:50:53 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 19:38:58 -0500, Daniel Kolle wrote:
budikka1@netscape.net (Budikka) thought hard and said:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3190585.stm reveals that 11,435 people
died in France in the first two weeks of August as a result of a grossly
inept response to the heat wave that Europe went through.
Bush did it.
AND he turned me into a newt!
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "LP" |
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| Title: Re: More Killed Than in The World Trade Center |
30 Aug 2003 06:17:10 PM |
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On 30 Aug 2003 12:51:56 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
On September 11th 2001, some 3,000 people died in the terror attacks
aimed at the USA.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3190585.stm
reveals that 11,435 people died in France in the first two weeks of
August as a result of a grossly inept response to the heat wave that
Europe went through.
Where is the outrage at this? Is this somehow a lesser horror than
September 11th? Are these people somehow trivial because they weren't
American, or because it didn't happen on the same day by means of
planes flying into solid objects?
Or is it okay that ineptitude and neglect is allowed to slaughter
almost four times the number that terrorists killed that day?
Compared with what we do to ourselves by sheer bungling incompetence,
terrorism is trivial. If I were a terrorist, I'd sit back, relax, and
do nothing. Why put myself out when the West is doing more to harm
itself than the terrorists can ever hope to do?
Budikka
Related article:
A Skeptical Look at September 11th
How We Can Defeat Terrorism by Reacting to It More Rationally
http://www.csicop.org/si/2002-09/9-11.html
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| User: "LP" |
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| Title: Re: More Killed Than in The World Trade Center |
30 Aug 2003 06:14:24 PM |
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On 30 Aug 2003 12:51:56 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
On September 11th 2001, some 3,000 people died in the terror attacks
aimed at the USA.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3190585.stm
reveals that 11,435 people died in France in the first two weeks of
August as a result of a grossly inept response to the heat wave that
Europe went through.
Where is the outrage at this? Is this somehow a lesser horror than
September 11th? Are these people somehow trivial because they weren't
American, or because it didn't happen on the same day by means of
planes flying into solid objects?
Or is it okay that ineptitude and neglect is allowed to slaughter
almost four times the number that terrorists killed that day?
Compared with what we do to ourselves by sheer bungling incompetence,
terrorism is trivial. If I were a terrorist, I'd sit back, relax, and
do nothing. Why put myself out when the West is doing more to harm
itself than the terrorists can ever hope to do?
Budikka
This is why France needs to adopt a libertarian form of government.
The French were so dependent on their big brother government doing
their thinking for them, large numbers of them died due to inaction at
the local level and by inaction by the individuals involved. Nobody is
better suited to look after your safety than the person you see in the
mirror. Personal responsibility is the ultimate safety net.
LIBRE ECHANGE
http://www.journalechange.com/polemistes/stupides072001.html
http://www.journalechange.com/
"That government is best which governs least."
http://libertarian.org/movement.html
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| User: "August Pamplona" |
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| Title: Re: More Killed Than in The World Trade Center |
30 Aug 2003 08:06:46 PM |
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"LP" <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:k292lv4on7esv4ifc22b631lljo94oj8cd@4ax.com...
On 30 Aug 2003 12:51:56 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
On September 11th 2001, some 3,000 people died in the terror attacks
aimed at the USA.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3190585.stm
reveals that 11,435 people died in France in the first two weeks of
August as a result of a grossly inept response to the heat wave that
Europe went through.
Where is the outrage at this? Is this somehow a lesser horror than
September 11th? Are these people somehow trivial because they
weren't
American, or because it didn't happen on the same day by means of
planes flying into solid objects?
Or is it okay that ineptitude and neglect is allowed to slaughter
almost four times the number that terrorists killed that day?
Compared with what we do to ourselves by sheer bungling incompetence,
terrorism is trivial. If I were a terrorist, I'd sit back, relax,
and
do nothing. Why put myself out when the West is doing more to harm
itself than the terrorists can ever hope to do?
Budikka
This is why France needs to adopt a libertarian form of government.
Isn't that almost an oxymoron?
The French were so dependent on their big brother government doing
their thinking for them, large numbers of them died due to inaction at
the local level and by inaction by the individuals involved. Nobody is
And just how would no government (because for all that's relevant
here, that's what a libertarian state would have --yes, libertarians
believe in a need for cops and soldiers but they're hardly relevant and,
besides, I believe France has a plentiful supply of both as it is) be of
any help here?
The only thing I can think of is that your hypothetical French
libertarian state, at least in the short term (and possibly, if not
quite likely, in the long term also), would result in longer working
hours, more unemployment and shorter vacations. This would result in
fewer workers leaving the old folk alone in the cities (the employed
because they have no vacation time and the unemployed because they have
no money) and thus a better chance of preventing or treating heat
exhaustion of said old folk. Other than that, how would you libertarian
state be so much better at coping with the heat than the current French
government?
better suited to look after your safety than the person you see in the
mirror. Personal responsibility is the ultimate safety net.
How exactly was the French government impeding whatever wonderful
things individual French citizens should have done to avoid this
situation? Did it send the soldiers to prevent individuals from doing
the right thing? I must have missed that.
August Pamplona
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"No, jew. Your jew opinion doesn't matter no matter what, jew. Your
writings deserve no comprehension, merely scorn, jew. You are jew."
-Lysis on m.f.w.
a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut
To email replace 'necatoramericanusancylostomaduodenale' with
'cosmicaug'
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| User: "Will" |
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| Title: Re: More Killed Than in The World Trade Center |
31 Aug 2003 01:37:07 AM |
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"August Pamplona" <necatoramericanusancylostomaduodenale@mail.com> wrote in message news:<GSb4b.2617$tw6.2237@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"LP" <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On 30 Aug 2003 12:51:56 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
On September 11th 2001, some 3,000 people died in the terror attacks
aimed at the USA.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3190585.stm
reveals that 11,435 people died in France in the first two weeks of
August as a result of a grossly inept response to the heat wave that
Europe went through.
Where is the outrage at this? Is this somehow a lesser horror than
September 11th? Are these people somehow trivial because they
weren't
American, or because it didn't happen on the same day by means of
planes flying into solid objects?
Or is it okay that ineptitude and neglect is allowed to slaughter
almost four times the number that terrorists killed that day?
Compared with what we do to ourselves by sheer bungling incompetence,
terrorism is trivial. If I were a terrorist, I'd sit back, relax,
and
do nothing. Why put myself out when the West is doing more to harm
itself than the terrorists can ever hope to do?
Budikka
This is why France needs to adopt a libertarian form of government.
Isn't that almost an oxymoron?
The French were so dependent on their big brother government doing
their thinking for them, large numbers of them died due to inaction at
the local level and by inaction by the individuals involved. Nobody is
And just how would no government (because for all that's relevant
here, that's what a libertarian state would have --yes, libertarians
believe in a need for cops and soldiers but they're hardly relevant and,
besides, I believe France has a plentiful supply of both as it is) be of
any help here?
The only thing I can think of is that your hypothetical French
libertarian state, at least in the short term (and possibly, if not
quite likely, in the long term also), would result in longer working
hours, more unemployment and shorter vacations. This would result in
fewer workers leaving the old folk alone in the cities (the employed
because they have no vacation time and the unemployed because they have
no money) and thus a better chance of preventing or treating heat
exhaustion of said old folk. Other than that, how would you libertarian
state be so much better at coping with the heat than the current French
government?
better suited to look after your safety than the person you see in the
mirror. Personal responsibility is the ultimate safety net.
How exactly was the French government impeding whatever wonderful
things individual French citizens should have done to avoid this
situation? Did it send the soldiers to prevent individuals from doing
the right thing? I must have missed that.
August Pamplona
Libertarinism is the political philosophy of the willfully ignorant.
They are incorrigible bores utterly fixated on their political
fantasy.
Will
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| User: "Sean C" |
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| Title: Re: More Killed Than in The World Trade Center |
31 Aug 2003 03:08:19 PM |
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In article <k292lv4on7esv4ifc22b631lljo94oj8cd@4ax.com>, LP
<whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
On 30 Aug 2003 12:51:56 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
On September 11th 2001, some 3,000 people died in the terror attacks
aimed at the USA.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3190585.stm
reveals that 11,435 people died in France in the first two weeks of
August as a result of a grossly inept response to the heat wave that
Europe went through.
Where is the outrage at this? Is this somehow a lesser horror than
September 11th? Are these people somehow trivial because they weren't
American, or because it didn't happen on the same day by means of
planes flying into solid objects?
Or is it okay that ineptitude and neglect is allowed to slaughter
almost four times the number that terrorists killed that day?
Compared with what we do to ourselves by sheer bungling incompetence,
terrorism is trivial. If I were a terrorist, I'd sit back, relax, and
do nothing. Why put myself out when the West is doing more to harm
itself than the terrorists can ever hope to do?
Budikka
This is why France needs to adopt a libertarian form of government.
The French were so dependent on their big brother government doing
their thinking for them, large numbers of them died due to inaction at
the local level and by inaction by the individuals involved. Nobody is
better suited to look after your safety than the person you see in the
mirror. Personal responsibility is the ultimate safety net.
*Yawn*
This is why France needs to adopt a Christian form of government. The
French were so dependent on their secular government doing their
thinking for them, large numbers of them died due to secular humanism
at the local level and the lack of prayer of the individuals involved.
Nobody is better suited to look after your safety than the Lord Jesus
Christ. Jesus is the ultimate safety net.
Meanwhile, tens of thousands of people die in the streets and in their
homes every year in America, and not a damn thing is done about it. You
can bet that the evil French commies will take measures to keep this
from happening again.
Sean C
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