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"Zod" |
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13 Sep 2005 05:51:54 AM |
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More nutcase prediction |
1. Humanity and Planet Earth are currently going through a huge
change or shift in consciousness and reality perception.
2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most
advanced in relation to time-science knowledge. Their main calendar
is the most accurate on the planet. It has never erred. They
actually have 22 calendars in total, covering the many timing cycles
in the Universe and Solar System. Some of these calendars are yet to
be revealed.
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in
2012. So we are currently "between worlds". This time is called
the "Apocalypse" or revealing. This means the real truth will be
revealed. It is also the time for us to work through "our stuff"
individually and collectively.
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to
us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization
we want now.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
- we will have gone beyond technology as we know it.
- we will have gone beyond time and money.
- we will have entered the fifth dimension after passing through the
fourth dimension
- Planet Earth and the Solar System will come into galactic
synchronization with the rest of the Universe.
- Our DNA will be "upgraded" (or reprogrammed) from the centre of
our galaxy. (Hunab Ku)
"Everbody on this planet is mutating. Some are more conscious of it
than others. But everyone is doing it" - Extraterrestrial Earth
Mission.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with
the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000
years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other
galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
7. Time is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of
years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been
7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very
reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been
slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there
is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old
24 hours. Another intrepetation is - we, or rather Consciousness
have been down this same road seven times before over the last 16
billion years. Each of these cycles of Creation runs 20 times faster
than the last one. The same amount of Creation is paced 20 times
tighter. This is why time seems to be going so fast. It is
not "time" but Creation itself that is accelerating.
8. During the Apocalypse or the time "between worlds" many people
will be going through many personal changes. The changes will be
many and varied. It is all part of what we came here to learn or
experience. Examples of change could be- relationships coming to an
end, change of residence or location, change of job or work, shift
in attitude or thinking etc.
9. Remember, in any given moment we are making small and large
decisions. Each decision is based on LOVE or FEAR. Choose love,
follow your intuition, not intellect and follow your passion
or "burning inner desire." Go with the flow.
10. Thought forms are very important and affect our everyday life.
We create our reality with thought forms. If we think negative
thoughts of others this is what we attract. If we think positive
thoughts we will attract positive people and events. So be aware of
your thoughts and eliminate the unnecessary negative or judgemental
ones.
11. Be aware that most of the media is controlled by just a few. Use
discernment! Look for the hidden agendas. Why is this information
being presented to you? What is "their" real agenda? Is it a case of
problem­reaction­solution? Do "they" create a problem so
that
"we" react and ask for a fix, then "they" offer their solution?
The "solution is what "they" really wanted in the first place.
12. Remember almost nothing happens by accident. Almost all "events"
are planned by some agency or other. Despite this, it is a very
exciting time to be alive! The truth shall set you free!
Discernment in 2005 and beyond
As we move into the fourth dimension we are experiencing a shift in
consciousness. The fourth dimension is more a state of mind than an
actual place. When you are living your life with all of your chakras
wide open, and all of those around you are experiencing life in the
same way, it will be in the fourth dimension.
Discernment applied to different sources of information is becoming
of paramount importance.
The many agendas for Planet Earth and its inhabitants come from many
sources and some are published in the media. Various
extraterrestrial sources are talking about many possible scenarios
to take place within the next 5 to 10 years. Some are talking about
government DNA and mind control, the New World Order by 2003,
annihilation from negative ETs etc. Some are talking about the
Ascension (Rapture) of many of us, together with Planet Earth,
possibly helped by the positive ETs. All these scenarios are
possible, depending on your own reality. The message is to follow
your heart, your gut feelings and intuition, not your intellect. Be
discerning with the feelings and information you process. Does it
resonate with you. Work towards healing the planet and yourself and
say no to those who wish to control us. Following the Mayan calendar
can help free us from the time and money circle, liberate the mind
and open the way to the new age beyond time and money.
Adi Gaia
Universal Citizen
http://uciv.bravehost.com
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
13 Sep 2005 06:45:02 AM |
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"Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
- we will have gone beyond time and money.
Impossible! What about minimum wage?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
13 Sep 2005 10:42:29 AM |
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1. says who ?
2.You mean somebody lost a calender ?
3. ok - no problem with working through stuff, do it every day.
4. Would you really like to live in MY perfect world ?
<snip>
I was going to finish this but time apparently speeded up and its now
time to do my laundry.
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| User: "Dan Seur" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
15 Sep 2005 06:22:21 PM |
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I'll have a ham on wry, heavy on the maya.
Zod wrote:
1. Humanity and Planet Earth are currently going through a huge
change or shift in consciousness and reality perception.
2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most
advanced in relation to time-science knowledge. Their main calendar
is the most accurate on the planet. It has never erred. They
actually have 22 calendars in total, covering the many timing cycles
in the Universe and Solar System. Some of these calendars are yet to
be revealed.
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in
2012. So we are currently "between worlds". This time is called
the "Apocalypse" or revealing. This means the real truth will be
revealed. It is also the time for us to work through "our stuff"
individually and collectively.
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to
us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization
we want now.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
- we will have gone beyond technology as we know it.
- we will have gone beyond time and money.
- we will have entered the fifth dimension after passing through the
fourth dimension
- Planet Earth and the Solar System will come into galactic
synchronization with the rest of the Universe.
- Our DNA will be "upgraded" (or reprogrammed) from the centre of
our galaxy. (Hunab Ku)
"Everbody on this planet is mutating. Some are more conscious of it
than others. But everyone is doing it" - Extraterrestrial Earth
Mission.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with
the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000
years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other
galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
7. Time is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of
years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been
7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very
reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been
slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there
is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old
24 hours. Another intrepetation is - we, or rather Consciousness
have been down this same road seven times before over the last 16
billion years. Each of these cycles of Creation runs 20 times faster
than the last one. The same amount of Creation is paced 20 times
tighter. This is why time seems to be going so fast. It is
not "time" but Creation itself that is accelerating.
8. During the Apocalypse or the time "between worlds" many people
will be going through many personal changes. The changes will be
many and varied. It is all part of what we came here to learn or
experience. Examples of change could be- relationships coming to an
end, change of residence or location, change of job or work, shift
in attitude or thinking etc.
9. Remember, in any given moment we are making small and large
decisions. Each decision is based on LOVE or FEAR. Choose love,
follow your intuition, not intellect and follow your passion
or "burning inner desire." Go with the flow.
10. Thought forms are very important and affect our everyday life.
We create our reality with thought forms. If we think negative
thoughts of others this is what we attract. If we think positive
thoughts we will attract positive people and events. So be aware of
your thoughts and eliminate the unnecessary negative or judgemental
ones.
11. Be aware that most of the media is controlled by just a few. Use
discernment! Look for the hidden agendas. Why is this information
being presented to you? What is "their" real agenda? Is it a case of
problem­reaction­solution? Do "they" create a problem so
that
"we" react and ask for a fix, then "they" offer their solution?
The "solution is what "they" really wanted in the first place.
12. Remember almost nothing happens by accident. Almost all "events"
are planned by some agency or other. Despite this, it is a very
exciting time to be alive! The truth shall set you free!
Discernment in 2005 and beyond
As we move into the fourth dimension we are experiencing a shift in
consciousness. The fourth dimension is more a state of mind than an
actual place. When you are living your life with all of your chakras
wide open, and all of those around you are experiencing life in the
same way, it will be in the fourth dimension.
Discernment applied to different sources of information is becoming
of paramount importance.
The many agendas for Planet Earth and its inhabitants come from many
sources and some are published in the media. Various
extraterrestrial sources are talking about many possible scenarios
to take place within the next 5 to 10 years. Some are talking about
government DNA and mind control, the New World Order by 2003,
annihilation from negative ETs etc. Some are talking about the
Ascension (Rapture) of many of us, together with Planet Earth,
possibly helped by the positive ETs. All these scenarios are
possible, depending on your own reality. The message is to follow
your heart, your gut feelings and intuition, not your intellect. Be
discerning with the feelings and information you process. Does it
resonate with you. Work towards healing the planet and yourself and
say no to those who wish to control us. Following the Mayan calendar
can help free us from the time and money circle, liberate the mind
and open the way to the new age beyond time and money.
Adi Gaia
Universal Citizen
http://uciv.bravehost.com
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| User: "King Amdo" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
16 Sep 2005 03:49:40 AM |
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....sorry harvest failed.
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| User: "Dan Seur" |
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16 Sep 2005 12:59:57 PM |
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just send money then. or daughters.
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| User: "Thomas King" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
13 Sep 2005 02:41:30 PM |
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If the Mayans were so advanced, where are they now?? I think you should lay
off the drugs and stick to provable facts.
"Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126608714.421828.135330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
1. Humanity and Planet Earth are currently going through a huge
change or shift in consciousness and reality perception.
2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most
advanced in relation to time-science knowledge. Their main calendar
is the most accurate on the planet. It has never erred. They
actually have 22 calendars in total, covering the many timing cycles
in the Universe and Solar System. Some of these calendars are yet to
be revealed.
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in
2012. So we are currently "between worlds". This time is called
the "Apocalypse" or revealing. This means the real truth will be
revealed. It is also the time for us to work through "our stuff"
individually and collectively.
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to
us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization
we want now.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
- we will have gone beyond technology as we know it.
- we will have gone beyond time and money.
- we will have entered the fifth dimension after passing through the
fourth dimension
- Planet Earth and the Solar System will come into galactic
synchronization with the rest of the Universe.
- Our DNA will be "upgraded" (or reprogrammed) from the centre of
our galaxy. (Hunab Ku)
"Everbody on this planet is mutating. Some are more conscious of it
than others. But everyone is doing it" - Extraterrestrial Earth
Mission.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with
the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000
years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other
galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
7. Time is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of
years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been
7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very
reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been
slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there
is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old
24 hours. Another intrepetation is - we, or rather Consciousness
have been down this same road seven times before over the last 16
billion years. Each of these cycles of Creation runs 20 times faster
than the last one. The same amount of Creation is paced 20 times
tighter. This is why time seems to be going so fast. It is
not "time" but Creation itself that is accelerating.
8. During the Apocalypse or the time "between worlds" many people
will be going through many personal changes. The changes will be
many and varied. It is all part of what we came here to learn or
experience. Examples of change could be- relationships coming to an
end, change of residence or location, change of job or work, shift
in attitude or thinking etc.
9. Remember, in any given moment we are making small and large
decisions. Each decision is based on LOVE or FEAR. Choose love,
follow your intuition, not intellect and follow your passion
or "burning inner desire." Go with the flow.
10. Thought forms are very important and affect our everyday life.
We create our reality with thought forms. If we think negative
thoughts of others this is what we attract. If we think positive
thoughts we will attract positive people and events. So be aware of
your thoughts and eliminate the unnecessary negative or judgemental
ones.
11. Be aware that most of the media is controlled by just a few. Use
discernment! Look for the hidden agendas. Why is this information
being presented to you? What is "their" real agenda? Is it a case of
problem­reaction­solution? Do "they" create a problem so
that
"we" react and ask for a fix, then "they" offer their solution?
The "solution is what "they" really wanted in the first place.
12. Remember almost nothing happens by accident. Almost all "events"
are planned by some agency or other. Despite this, it is a very
exciting time to be alive! The truth shall set you free!
Discernment in 2005 and beyond
As we move into the fourth dimension we are experiencing a shift in
consciousness. The fourth dimension is more a state of mind than an
actual place. When you are living your life with all of your chakras
wide open, and all of those around you are experiencing life in the
same way, it will be in the fourth dimension.
Discernment applied to different sources of information is becoming
of paramount importance.
The many agendas for Planet Earth and its inhabitants come from many
sources and some are published in the media. Various
extraterrestrial sources are talking about many possible scenarios
to take place within the next 5 to 10 years. Some are talking about
government DNA and mind control, the New World Order by 2003,
annihilation from negative ETs etc. Some are talking about the
Ascension (Rapture) of many of us, together with Planet Earth,
possibly helped by the positive ETs. All these scenarios are
possible, depending on your own reality. The message is to follow
your heart, your gut feelings and intuition, not your intellect. Be
discerning with the feelings and information you process. Does it
resonate with you. Work towards healing the planet and yourself and
say no to those who wish to control us. Following the Mayan calendar
can help free us from the time and money circle, liberate the mind
and open the way to the new age beyond time and money.
Adi Gaia
Universal Citizen
http://uciv.bravehost.com
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
13 Sep 2005 07:12:17 AM |
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On 13 Sep 2005 03:51:54 -0700, "Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> in news
message <1126608714.421828.135330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
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2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most
advanced in relation to time-science knowledge.
[-]
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in
2012. So we are currently "between worlds".
[-]
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to
us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization
we want now.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
[-]
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with
the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000
years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other
galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
What do you mean "line up"? I'm sure that in the billions and
billions of galaxies to choose from, one can arbitrarily say that
three of them "line up" if one uses a coarse-enough-grained definition
of "line up". Did you know that georgann chenault has shown that the
airshafts in a drawing of the Great Pyramid at Giza exactly "line up"
with a drawing of Christ at the center of the Universe (or the center
of the drawing, whichever comes first)?
How spooky is that?
Liz #658 BAAWA
The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that
their interests and his own are the same -- Stendhal
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| User: "Tom McDonald" |
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13 Sep 2005 09:54:12 PM |
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Liz wrote:
On 13 Sep 2005 03:51:54 -0700, "Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> in news
message <1126608714.421828.135330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
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2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most
advanced in relation to time-science knowledge.
*Maya* civilization.
[-]
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in
2012. So we are currently "between worlds".
*Maya* fifth world.
[-]
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to
us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization
we want now.
*Maya* sixth world.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
*Maya* also say.
[-]
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Just for shits and giggles, and since this is cross-posted to a
sci. group on archaeology, what are the chances all of you will
get it right:
1. The word is 'Maya' in every case except:
2. When speaking of the language, which is 'Mayan.'
So the Mayan civilization never existed; the Maya civilization did.
BTW, the Maya are alive and well, and their cultures are vibrant
and living.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with
the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000
years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other
galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
<snip>
Virgil Armstrong is cracked, and publishes stuff. Take it for
what it is worth.
Again, perhaps one might ask for some archaeological evidence
for the assertions above, as this is cross posted to an archie ng
specifically designed to discuss archaeology.
--
Tom McDonald
http://ahwhatdoiknow.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Liz" |
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14 Sep 2005 05:36:05 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:54:12 -0500, Tom McDonald
<tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> in news message
<ThMVe.7624$Ma.2830@fe07.lga> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On 13 Sep 2005 03:51:54 -0700, "Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> in news
message <1126608714.421828.135330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
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And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Just for shits and giggles, and since this is cross-posted to a
sci. group on archaeology, what are the chances all of you will
get it right:
1. The word is 'Maya' in every case except:
2. When speaking of the language, which is 'Mayan.'
Thank you for the correction. I made the mistake of assuming that the
original poster knew the material he was posting about and followed
his lead. I will not repeat this error. (Well, at least the error in
the use of Maya/Mayan. I often make the mistake of assuming that
people actually know what they are talking until it becomes apparent
that they sometimes don't know their ***** from a hole in the ground,
but that's my problem.) :)
I learn many things on usenet. Such as the proper name of the large
bird that lives in northern North America is Canada Goose, not
Canadian Goose, as if often said.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Reality doesn't alter itself to conform to our beliefs. --
Gregory A. Greenman
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| User: "" |
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14 Sep 2005 10:19:26 AM |
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I they were "Canadian" Geese the u. s. Fish & Wildlife service would
probably stop them at the border and bust them for transporting migratory
bird feathers into the country!
"Liz" > wrote in message
<<<<<SNIPPPPP>>>>>
I learn many things on usenet. Such as the proper name of the large
bird that lives in northern North America is Canada Goose, not
Canadian Goose, as if often said.
Liz #658 BAAWA
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| User: "Tom McDonald" |
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14 Sep 2005 11:46:48 PM |
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Liz wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:54:12 -0500, Tom McDonald
<tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> in news message
<ThMVe.7624$Ma.2830@fe07.lga> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On 13 Sep 2005 03:51:54 -0700, "Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> in news
message <1126608714.421828.135330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
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And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Just for shits and giggles, and since this is cross-posted to a
sci. group on archaeology, what are the chances all of you will
get it right:
1. The word is 'Maya' in every case except:
2. When speaking of the language, which is 'Mayan.'
Thank you for the correction. I made the mistake of assuming that the
original poster knew the material he was posting about and followed
his lead. I will not repeat this error. (Well, at least the error in
the use of Maya/Mayan. I often make the mistake of assuming that
people actually know what they are talking until it becomes apparent
that they sometimes don't know their ***** from a hole in the ground,
but that's my problem.) :)
Oh, I often have *****/hole in the ground conflation issues. In
the past, and perhaps still today, there are real scientists who
use 'Mayan' in the way I suggest 'Maya' be used. However, I'm
taking my lead from two of the folks intimately involved in
deciphering Mayan, and opening that interesting and violent
culture to us moderns.
The tip-off wrt the rectal/well confusion issue here is when the
poster goes into great detail about the whole 2012 thing. It's
been freighted with a lot of import because it is the end of the
current Baktun of the Maya calendar.
At the end of these cycles, the Maya believed things were up in
the air, and the present order was likely to change rather
dramatically. The problem is that, while things may have changed
for Maya folks at those times, nothing else in the rest of the
world went through major changes linked to that date.
However, the May are still considered mystical. IOW, there is
enough ignorance about them, and romance woven around their
history, that folks who don't know any better can be seduced by
other folks who do seem to know something about the Maya.
As a rule of thumb, the more spectacular events that are alleged
to coincide with the end of the Baktun, the more likely the
person presenting such stories is suffering a cranio-rectal
inversion. They are skrying based on what they see when they open
their eyes.
Still, it can be fun to read their woo-woo claims. Just be sure
to keep a good grip on your pocketbook and your sanity in the
run-up to 2012. If you liked the whole Millennium scares, you'll
adore the three or four years before the Baktun ends.
Oh, and the next day? The next Baktun begins. Just like December
31 is the last day in the last month in the calendar on your
wall, but that doesn't mean that January 1 will be any different.
I learn many things on usenet. Such as the proper name of the large
bird that lives in northern North America is Canada Goose, not
Canadian Goose, as if often said.
They are magnificent birds. Of course, I could wish that it was
named the majestic Wisconsin Goose. But Canada Goose works, too. :-)
--
Tom McDonald
http://ahwhatdoiknow.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
15 Sep 2005 05:55:16 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:46:48 -0500, Tom McDonald
<tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> in news message
<o17We.4427$6Z3.1796@fe06.lga> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:54:12 -0500, Tom McDonald
<tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> in news message
<ThMVe.7624$Ma.2830@fe07.lga> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On 13 Sep 2005 03:51:54 -0700, "Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> in news
message <1126608714.421828.135330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[-----]
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Just for shits and giggles, and since this is cross-posted to a
sci. group on archaeology, what are the chances all of you will
get it right:
1. The word is 'Maya' in every case except:
2. When speaking of the language, which is 'Mayan.'
Thank you for the correction. I made the mistake of assuming that the
original poster knew the material he was posting about and followed
his lead. I will not repeat this error. (Well, at least the error in
the use of Maya/Mayan. I often make the mistake of assuming that
people actually know what they are talking until it becomes apparent
that they sometimes don't know their ***** from a hole in the ground,
but that's my problem.) :)
Oh, I often have *****/hole in the ground conflation issues. In
the past, and perhaps still today, there are real scientists who
use 'Mayan' in the way I suggest 'Maya' be used. However, I'm
taking my lead from two of the folks intimately involved in
deciphering Mayan, and opening that interesting and violent
culture to us moderns.
The tip-off wrt the rectal/well confusion issue here is when the
poster goes into great detail about the whole 2012 thing. It's
been freighted with a lot of import because it is the end of the
current Baktun of the Maya calendar.
At the end of these cycles, the Maya believed things were up in
the air, and the present order was likely to change rather
dramatically. The problem is that, while things may have changed
for Maya folks at those times, nothing else in the rest of the
world went through major changes linked to that date.
However, the May are still considered mystical. IOW, there is
enough ignorance about them, and romance woven around their
history, that folks who don't know any better can be seduced by
other folks who do seem to know something about the Maya.
Rather like the Bible Codes of a few years back, where hidden messages
predicting world events were supposed to be encoded like a word search
puzzle in the Torah. The drawback was, of course, that these
predictions could only be recognized postdictionally, and the same
type of concealed messages could also be found in "Moby *****".
As a rule of thumb, the more spectacular events that are alleged
to coincide with the end of the Baktun, the more likely the
person presenting such stories is suffering a cranio-rectal
inversion. They are skrying based on what they see when they open
their eyes.
LOL And they expect us to be as awed with their visions as they are.
Augury using entrails is not as passe as I assumed.
Still, it can be fun to read their woo-woo claims. Just be sure
to keep a good grip on your pocketbook and your sanity in the
run-up to 2012. If you liked the whole Millennium scares, you'll
adore the three or four years before the Baktun ends.
I call this phenomenon the "Booga Booga Effect".
Oh, and the next day? The next Baktun begins. Just like December
31 is the last day in the last month in the calendar on your
wall, but that doesn't mean that January 1 will be any different.
Yes, I was rather disappointed that on 01/01/2000, my computer still
worked and my coffee maker hadn't melted into a whimpering pile of
plastic on my countertop.
I learn many things on usenet. Such as the proper name of the large
bird that lives in northern North America is Canada Goose, not
Canadian Goose, as is often said.
They are magnificent birds. Of course, I could wish that it was
named the majestic Wisconsin Goose. But Canada Goose works, too. :-)
I must admit that Wisconsin Goose is more euphonic than Ohio Goose.
Liz #658 BAAWA
There is no way, even in principle, to distinguish one
supernatural explanation from another. -- "Hiero5ant"
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"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:sjiii1dhcu9ao6nkfucr48gmctm0dssu7r@4ax.com...
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:46:48 -0500, Tom McDonald
<tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> in news message
<o17We.4427$6Z3.1796@fe06.lga> wrote:
However, the May are still considered mystical. IOW, there is
enough ignorance about them, and romance woven around their
history, that folks who don't know any better can be seduced by
other folks who do seem to know something about the Maya.
Rather like the Bible Codes of a few years back, where hidden messages
predicting world events were supposed to be encoded like a word search
puzzle in the Torah. The drawback was, of course, that these
predictions could only be recognized postdictionally, and the same
type of concealed messages could also be found in "Moby *****".
LOL....Ah, yes. The famed Moby ***** predictions....
They are magnificent birds. Of course, I could wish that it was
named the majestic Wisconsin Goose. But Canada Goose works, too. :-)
I must admit that Wisconsin Goose is more euphonic than Ohio Goose.
Oh, so is Tom another cheesehead? I vote for the Wisconsin Goose too!
JR
(former cheesehead living in the south)
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15 Sep 2005 06:25:23 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:15:27 -0500, "JR"
<JR_NOSPAM_Wolf@barefootcreations.com> in news message
<eDcWe.6218$%Q1.2749@bignews3.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
news:sjiii1dhcu9ao6nkfucr48gmctm0dssu7r@4ax.com...
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:46:48 -0500, Tom McDonald
<tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> in news message
<o17We.4427$6Z3.1796@fe06.lga> wrote:
[-]
They are magnificent birds. Of course, I could wish that it was
named the majestic Wisconsin Goose. But Canada Goose works, too. :-)
I must admit that Wisconsin Goose is more euphonic than Ohio Goose.
Oh, so is Tom another cheesehead? I vote for the Wisconsin Goose too!
If we start now, maybe we can petition to get the name changed before
the end of the Baktun.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Head Wrangler: EAC Petting Zoo and Cafeteria (ntie,oc)
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15 Sep 2005 02:34:16 PM |
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"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
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Rather like the Bible Codes of a few years back, where hidden messages
predicting world events were supposed to be encoded like a word search
puzzle in the Torah. The drawback was, of course, that these
predictions could only be recognized postdictionally, and the same
type of concealed messages could also be found in "Moby *****".
==========================
Or Stephen King's "Carrie" or "Peace and War." ;-)
--
CR.....
Free WTS literature?
Here is how it works Boydette.
They pay for the literature they take to go door to door with. At the
door they ask for a donation for what they leave with their "pigeon".
Upon returning to the KH they forfeit all donations that have been
collected.
Actually, in the Eighties they conceived of a dishonest way to cheat
the government of taxes while they effectively doubled their income.
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22 Sep 2005 07:22:09 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:54:12 -0500, in sci.archaeology.mesoamerican, Tom
McDonald <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On 13 Sep 2005 03:51:54 -0700, "Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> in news
message <1126608714.421828.135330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[-----]
2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most
advanced in relation to time-science knowledge.
*Maya* civilization.
[-]
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in
2012. So we are currently "between worlds".
*Maya* fifth world.
[-]
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to
us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization
we want now.
*Maya* sixth world.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
*Maya* also say.
[-]
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Just for shits and giggles, and since this is cross-posted to a
sci. group on archaeology, what are the chances all of you will
get it right:
1. The word is 'Maya' in every case except:
2. When speaking of the language, which is 'Mayan.'
So the Mayan civilization never existed; the Maya civilization did.
BTW, the Maya are alive and well, and their cultures are vibrant
and living.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with
the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000
years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other
galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
<snip>
Virgil Armstrong is cracked, and publishes stuff. Take it for
what it is worth.
Again, perhaps one might ask for some archaeological evidence
for the assertions above, as this is cross posted to an archie ng
specifically designed to discuss archaeology.
Additionally...
if we see an galaxy seems to appear to align with our galaxy.. and that
galaxy is 10million light years away, then the alignment took place 10,000
years ago. if the other galaxy is 250 million light years away and seems to
appear to aligned with the other galaxy, remember you are looking back in
time and those two galaxies would have appeared to align with each other
about 240million years ago... (if their happen to be on the same general
line of site.) The key idea folks, is too look at the frame of reference.
debunked... as 100% nonsense
--
Ak'toh'di
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27 Sep 2005 05:45:27 PM |
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Bob Officer wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:54:12 -0500, in sci.archaeology.mesoamerican, Tom
McDonald <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On 13 Sep 2005 03:51:54 -0700, "Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> in news
message <1126608714.421828.135330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[-----]
2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most
advanced in relation to time-science knowledge.
*Maya* civilization.
[-]
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in
2012. So we are currently "between worlds".
*Maya* fifth world.
[-]
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to
us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization
we want now.
*Maya* sixth world.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
*Maya* also say.
[-]
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Just for shits and giggles, and since this is cross-posted to a
sci. group on archaeology, what are the chances all of you will
get it right:
1. The word is 'Maya' in every case except:
2. When speaking of the language, which is 'Mayan.'
So the Mayan civilization never existed; the Maya civilization did.
BTW, the Maya are alive and well, and their cultures are vibrant
and living.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with
the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000
years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other
galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
<snip>
Virgil Armstrong is cracked, and publishes stuff. Take it for
what it is worth.
Again, perhaps one might ask for some archaeological evidence
for the assertions above, as this is cross posted to an archie ng
specifically designed to discuss archaeology.
Additionally...
if we see an galaxy seems to appear to align with our galaxy.. and that
galaxy is 10million light years away, then the alignment took place 10,000
years ago. if the other galaxy is 250 million light years away and seems to
appear to aligned with the other galaxy, remember you are looking back in
time and those two galaxies would have appeared to align with each other
about 240million years ago... (if their happen to be on the same general
line of site.) The key idea folks, is too look at the frame of reference.
debunked... as 100% nonsense
Carol Witkowski has been caught in various vicious lies
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
NG
Do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's
Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on
A religious organization in good standing in almost every country in
the
world?
Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation
with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and bandwidth on
discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated information.
This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in participating
with her distributing false information elsewhere?
Facts about Carol:
*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common
reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it
up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them:
If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic;
You can report her.
Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and you may report her to:
by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at , or
by writing to:
DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA
Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
;60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or
person.
Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family
members will INDICATE that JW's
and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the
proof, or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-jw's already
"know"
the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
reality
with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting anything
and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming their a
priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along". A good
example is ant-jw's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
Witnesses, with ZERO
proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers actually make any
attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles allegedly embodied
in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.
One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four
teenagers girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
from Tower Records", in
hopes of convincing the audience that said excerpt "proves" something
about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's Witness" label mean,
if there's no proof/evidence that those it's applied to in one of
these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only?
Do we look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal
in.
replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
their
post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
other
tabloids..
notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol:
"SD" <S...@steam.com> said about Carol
Carol,
When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond
with nothing but weasel tactics.
I know this won't exactly break your heart, but I have no choice but
to regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded
wishful thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the
organization more than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for
one to constantly change their name as you do. Neither one paints you
in a particularly good light.
Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
head.
She's here to subject her ranting to as many people as she can. She's
not
here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make noise,
and
lots of it
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Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:56:41 -0500
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| User: "Bob Officer" |
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28 Sep 2005 03:43:08 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:45:27 -0400, in sci.archaeology.mesoamerican, Reel
Mckoi <dpc6682112001@direcpc.com> wrote:
Bob Officer wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:54:12 -0500, in sci.archaeology.mesoamerican, Tom
McDonald <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On 13 Sep 2005 03:51:54 -0700, "Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> in news
message <1126608714.421828.135330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[-----]
2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most
advanced in relation to time-science knowledge.
*Maya* civilization.
[-]
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in
2012. So we are currently "between worlds".
*Maya* fifth world.
[-]
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to
us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization
we want now.
*Maya* sixth world.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
*Maya* also say.
[-]
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Just for shits and giggles, and since this is cross-posted to a
sci. group on archaeology, what are the chances all of you will
get it right:
1. The word is 'Maya' in every case except:
2. When speaking of the language, which is 'Mayan.'
So the Mayan civilization never existed; the Maya civilization did.
BTW, the Maya are alive and well, and their cultures are vibrant
and living.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with
the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000
years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other
galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
<snip>
Virgil Armstrong is cracked, and publishes stuff. Take it for
what it is worth.
Again, perhaps one might ask for some archaeological evidence
for the assertions above, as this is cross posted to an archie ng
specifically designed to discuss archaeology.
Additionally...
if we see an galaxy seems to appear to align with our galaxy.. and that
galaxy is 10million light years away, then the alignment took place 10,000
years ago. if the other galaxy is 250 million light years away and seems to
appear to aligned with the other galaxy, remember you are looking back in
time and those two galaxies would have appeared to align with each other
about 240million years ago... (if their happen to be on the same general
line of site.) The key idea folks, is too look at the frame of reference.
debunked... as 100% nonsense
Carol Witkowski has been caught in various vicious lies
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
NG
Excuse me...
I was debating/debunking the points nothing else.
I don't care one wit about the person posting history recorded by the Google
or any other so called "archive". That's an entire different issue...
[My personal feelings on all religions isn't an issue... and so called "good
standing" doesn't mean anything WRT religions and governments...]
Petty differences in a cult (all religions are cults) newsgroup don't
interest me...
If you don't want to discuss the "points", in this case the so-called galaxy
alignments, please don't inject childish games....
--
Ak'toh'di
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| User: "The Smiling Crow" |
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28 Sep 2005 09:16:14 PM |
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Hi BO..that's sorta like trying to tell the "flies" not to smell your food
as you are trying to eat it....init?
Wayne George Member of The First Nations in the stolen land calling
itself canada
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:invlj1p9mabdrfm7ep208emmi9d13k0oj4@4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:45:27 -0400, in sci.archaeology.mesoamerican, Reel
Mckoi <dpc6682112001@direcpc.com> wrote:
Bob Officer wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:54:12 -0500, in sci.archaeology.mesoamerican, Tom
McDonald <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On 13 Sep 2005 03:51:54 -0700, "Zod" <zodriol@gmail.com> in news
message <1126608714.421828.135330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[-----]
2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most
advanced in relation to time-science knowledge.
*Maya* civilization.
[-]
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in
2012. So we are currently "between worlds".
*Maya* fifth world.
[-]
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to
us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization
we want now.
*Maya* sixth world.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
*Maya* also say.
[-]
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Just for shits and giggles, and since this is cross-posted to a
sci. group on archaeology, what are the chances all of you will
get it right:
1. The word is 'Maya' in every case except:
2. When speaking of the language, which is 'Mayan.'
So the Mayan civilization never existed; the Maya civilization did.
BTW, the Maya are alive and well, and their cultures are vibrant
and living.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with
the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000
years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other
galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
<snip>
Virgil Armstrong is cracked, and publishes stuff. Take it for
what it is worth.
Again, perhaps one might ask for some archaeological evidence
for the assertions above, as this is cross posted to an archie ng
specifically designed to discuss archaeology.
Additionally...
if we see an galaxy seems to appear to align with our galaxy.. and that
galaxy is 10million light years away, then the alignment took place
10,000
years ago. if the other galaxy is 250 million light years away and
seems to
appear to aligned with the other galaxy, remember you are looking back
in
time and those two galaxies would have appeared to align with each other
about 240million years ago... (if their happen to be on the same
general
line of site.) The key idea folks, is too look at the frame of
reference.
debunked... as 100% nonsense
Carol Witkowski has been caught in various vicious lies
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
NG
Excuse me...
I was debating/debunking the points nothing else.
I don't care one wit about the person posting history recorded by the
Google
or any other so called "archive". That's an entire different issue...
[My personal feelings on all religions isn't an issue... and so called
"good
standing" doesn't mean anything WRT religions and governments...]
Petty differences in a cult (all religions are cults) newsgroup don't
interest me...
If you don't want to discuss the "points", in this case the so-called
galaxy
alignments, please don't inject childish games....
--
Ak'toh'di
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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13 Sep 2005 10:09:18 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:12:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Don't you know? Haven't you _heard_? They didn't "collapse", they
simply "vacated the premesis". They fled to the stars - or some *****.
:-) They'll be back, if they're not already here.
muahahhahahaahhh.... ;-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
Those first to step up and say,
"Now is not the time for placing blame"
...
...are quite often to blame....
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
13 Sep 2005 08:17:49 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:09:18 -0700, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> in news message
<vu4fi11ebkmqpbkfnhhqti3jariri5baga@4ax.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:12:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Don't you know? Haven't you _heard_? They didn't "collapse", they
simply "vacated the premesis". They fled to the stars - or some *****.
They evaporated?
:-) They'll be back, if they're not already here.
muahahhahahaahhh.... ;-)
I wish I could laugh like that.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Mike P" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
13 Sep 2005 09:33:20 PM |
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Liz wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:09:18 -0700, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> in news message
<vu4fi11ebkmqpbkfnhhqti3jariri5baga@4ax.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:12:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Don't you know? Haven't you _heard_? They didn't "collapse", they
simply "vacated the premesis". They fled to the stars - or some *****.
They evaporated?
:-) They'll be back, if they're not already here.
muahahhahahaahhh.... ;-)
I wish I could laugh like that.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
Both of your outstanding lack of any knowledge of America is very worthy
of your education. Perhaps if you finished grade school you both would
have a understanding of the history of North and South America. If you
are able to understand what you are reading a good start for you would
be the writings of the Roman Catholic Bishop Diego de Landa back in the
16th Century. That will give you a account of what was found by the
Spanish when they first got here. With a little more research you may
find that in 250 AD they had farms of cotton, and made clothes out of
it, plus metal work. A written language in the form of heiroglyphs that
was five times more complex than the Roman letter style writing you do
in English.
This doesn't count the rope making, and systems they had for the lay
out of roads better than the ones today. The use of the wheel, metal
work. Medical, and dental, Political system, Art, Paper, and schools,
Religion, and a State system of their Country. That's right they were
not just a small State like Country all alone. There were many States
with-in it from many areas. Like you of limited knowledge the Spanish
afraid of what they couldn't understand tried to destroy everything as
the devils work. Some day when your have grown up, and your education is
better try reading The Dresden Codex, Madud Codex, Paris Codex, and
Grolier Codex to better understand these great people. I really don't
think you will be able to get that far, but you may if you apply your
selfs enough in ten to twenty years time.
For now I say goodbye to you as I have limited time for ones such as
your selfs.
Mike
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| User: "Duane" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
13 Sep 2005 11:15:11 PM |
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Hi Mike,
As you know education in the public schools was and is pretty limited about
these things. But I used to sit on top of a cliff over looking a canyon
where I lived and imagine what must have been there long before my ancestors
came.
Kris
--------------------------Mike said-----------------------
Both of your outstanding lack of any knowledge of America is very worthy
of your education. Perhaps if you finished grade school you both would
have a understanding of the history of North and South America. If you
are able to understand what you are reading a good start for you would
be the writings of the Roman Catholic Bishop Diego de Landa back in the
16th Century. That will give you a account of what was found by the
Spanish when they first got here. With a little more research you may
find that in 250 AD they had farms of cotton, and made clothes out of
it, plus metal work. A written language in the form of heiroglyphs that
was five times more complex than the Roman letter style writing you do
in English.
This doesn't count the rope making, and systems they had for the lay
out of roads better than the ones today. The use of the wheel, metal
work. Medical, and dental, Political system, Art, Paper, and schools,
Religion, and a State system of their Country. That's right they were
not just a small State like Country all alone. There were many States
with-in it from many areas. Like you of limited knowledge the Spanish
afraid of what they couldn't understand tried to destroy everything as
the devils work. Some day when your have grown up, and your education is
better try reading The Dresden Codex, Madud Codex, Paris Codex, and
Grolier Codex to better understand these great people.
Mike
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| User: "Mike P" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
14 Sep 2005 01:25:06 AM |
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Duane wrote:
Hi Mike,
As you know education in the public schools was and is pretty limited about
these things. But I used to sit on top of a cliff over looking a canyon
where I lived and imagine what must have been there long before my ancestors
came.
Kris
I can look at a place, and see what was there long ago. It's how you
look at it because the past is always with us. It's also very much alive.
Mike
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
14 Sep 2005 05:24:28 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:33:20 GMT, Mike P <nospam-res1yj7x@verizon.net>
in news message <QZLVe.10735$b37.2906@trnddc04> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:09:18 -0700, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> in news message
<vu4fi11ebkmqpbkfnhhqti3jariri5baga@4ax.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:12:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Don't you know? Haven't you _heard_? They didn't "collapse", they
simply "vacated the premesis". They fled to the stars - or some *****.
They evaporated?
:-) They'll be back, if they're not already here.
muahahhahahaahhh.... ;-)
I wish I could laugh like that.
Both of your outstanding lack of any knowledge of America is very worthy
of your education. Perhaps if you finished grade school you both would
have a understanding of the history of North and South America. If you
are able to understand what you are reading a good start for you would
be the writings of the Roman Catholic Bishop Diego de Landa back in the
16th Century. That will give you a account of what was found by the
Spanish when they first got here. With a little more research you may
find that in 250 AD they had farms of cotton, and made clothes out of
it, plus metal work. A written language in the form of heiroglyphs that
was five times more complex than the Roman letter style writing you do
in English.
This doesn't count the rope making, and systems they had for the lay
out of roads better than the ones today. The use of the wheel, metal
work. Medical, and dental, Political system, Art, Paper, and schools,
Religion, and a State system of their Country. That's right they were
not just a small State like Country all alone. There were many States
with-in it from many areas. Like you of limited knowledge the Spanish
afraid of what they couldn't understand tried to destroy everything as
the devils work. Some day when your have grown up, and your education is
better try reading The Dresden Codex, Madud Codex, Paris Codex, and
Grolier Codex to better understand these great people. I really don't
think you will be able to get that far, but you may if you apply your
selfs enough in ten to twenty years time.
For now I say goodbye to you as I have limited time for ones such as
your selfs.
Oh dear. I believe Mike's feelings are hurt by the use of humor.
Liz #658 BAAWA
The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that
their interests and his own are the same -- Stendhal
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
14 Sep 2005 09:49:30 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:24:28 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:33:20 GMT, Mike P <nospam-res1yj7x@verizon.net>
in news message <QZLVe.10735$b37.2906@trnddc04> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:09:18 -0700, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> in news message
<vu4fi11ebkmqpbkfnhhqti3jariri5baga@4ax.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:12:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Don't you know? Haven't you _heard_? They didn't "collapse", they
simply "vacated the premesis". They fled to the stars - or some *****.
They evaporated?
:-) They'll be back, if they're not already here.
muahahhahahaahhh.... ;-)
I wish I could laugh like that.
Both of your outstanding lack of any knowledge of America is very worthy
of your education. Perhaps if you finished grade school you both would
have a understanding of the history of North and South America. If you
are able to understand what you are reading a good start for you would
be the writings of the Roman Catholic Bishop Diego de Landa back in the
16th Century. That will give you a account of what was found by the
Spanish when they first got here. With a little more research you may
find that in 250 AD they had farms of cotton, and made clothes out of
it, plus metal work. A written language in the form of heiroglyphs that
was five times more complex than the Roman letter style writing you do
in English.
This doesn't count the rope making, and systems they had for the lay
out of roads better than the ones today. The use of the wheel, metal
work. Medical, and dental, Political system, Art, Paper, and schools,
Religion, and a State system of their Country. That's right they were
not just a small State like Country all alone. There were many States
with-in it from many areas. Like you of limited knowledge the Spanish
afraid of what they couldn't understand tried to destroy everything as
the devils work. Some day when your have grown up, and your education is
better try reading The Dresden Codex, Madud Codex, Paris Codex, and
Grolier Codex to better understand these great people. I really don't
think you will be able to get that far, but you may if you apply your
selfs enough in ten to twenty years time.
For now I say goodbye to you as I have limited time for ones such as
your selfs.
Oh dear. I believe Mike's feelings are hurt by the use of humor.
I believe Mike can go ***** himself. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
Those first to step up and say,
"Now is not the time for placing blame"
...
...are quite often to blame....
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
14 Sep 2005 08:27:47 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:49:30 -0700, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> in news message
<b9ohi1pdvkm24dro8abaflug8ccg55f5sg@4ax.com> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:24:28 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
[----]
Oh dear. I believe Mike's feelings are hurt by the use of humor.
I believe Mike can go ***** himself. :-)
Oh, he's just jealous that I've actually been to Copan, Chichen Itza,
Tulum and Tikal several times, but since we weren't actually talking
about the Maya that never came up. I was quite interested in
pre-Columbian civilizations at one time and visited both the Maya
sites in Central America and Inca sites of Machu Picchu, Cusco,
Saqsayhuaman, and Ollantaytambo in Peru over a 10 year period. I
really enjoyed the Museo Arqueológico Rafael Larco Herrera with its
fabulous collection of Moche ceramics. I even flew over the Nazca
lines and met Maria Reiche before she died. We might have had
something to talk about if he hadn't been such an *****, but probably
not.
I guess you just never know when you are going to push someone's hot
button or when you are going to run up against someone without the
ability to laugh. Seems like he is permanently angry.
Liz #658 BAAWA
I talk to people pretty much the same way in NG's that
I do in real life. I do have a really disarming smile, though,
so that people know that when I am calling them a stupid dog
felcher that I mean it in the nicest way possible. --
Rob D Swann
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| User: "Mike P" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
14 Sep 2005 07:13:53 PM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:24:28 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:33:20 GMT, Mike P <nospam-res1yj7x@verizon.net>
in news message <QZLVe.10735$b37.2906@trnddc04> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:09:18 -0700, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> in news message
<vu4fi11ebkmqpbkfnhhqti3jariri5baga@4ax.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:12:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Don't you know? Haven't you _heard_? They didn't "collapse", they
simply "vacated the premesis". They fled to the stars - or some *****.
They evaporated?
:-) They'll be back, if they're not already here.
muahahhahahaahhh.... ;-)
I wish I could laugh like that.
Both of your outstanding lack of any knowledge of America is very worthy
of your education. Perhaps if you finished grade school you both would
have a understanding of the history of North and South America. If you
are able to understand what you are reading a good start for you would
be the writings of the Roman Catholic Bishop Diego de Landa back in the
16th Century. That will give you a account of what was found by the
Spanish when they first got here. With a little more research you may
find that in 250 AD they had farms of cotton, and made clothes out of
it, plus metal work. A written language in the form of heiroglyphs that
was five times more complex than the Roman letter style writing you do
in English.
This doesn't count the rope making, and systems they had for the lay
out of roads better than the ones today. The use of the wheel, metal
work. Medical, and dental, Political system, Art, Paper, and schools,
Religion, and a State system of their Country. That's right they were
not just a small State like Country all alone. There were many States
with-in it from many areas. Like you of limited knowledge the Spanish
afraid of what they couldn't understand tried to destroy everything as
the devils work. Some day when your have grown up, and your education is
better try reading The Dresden Codex, Madud Codex, Paris Codex, and
Grolier Codex to better understand these great people. I really don't
think you will be able to get that far, but you may if you apply your
selfs enough in ten to twenty years time.
For now I say goodbye to you as I have limited time for ones such as
your selfs.
Oh dear. I believe Mike's feelings are hurt by the use of humor.
I believe Mike can go ***** himself. :-)
As I understand it your culture does a lot of that stuff. That does help
us in there tends to be less of you to destroy everything you come in
contact with. Thank you for being one such person.
As you wish to cross post, and make remarks about people you have no
idea about. Your little try at humor is noted, and rejected as a bunch
of children making believe you have any knowledge about anything. So
please excuse me while I flush the toilet, and get rid of all of you at
one time.
Mike
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: More nutcase prediction |
17 Sep 2005 11:13:13 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:13:53 GMT, Mike P <nospam-res1yj7x@verizon.net>
wrote:
Uncle Buck wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:24:28 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:33:20 GMT, Mike P <nospam-res1yj7x@verizon.net>
in news message <QZLVe.10735$b37.2906@trnddc04> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:09:18 -0700, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> in news message
<vu4fi11ebkmqpbkfnhhqti3jariri5baga@4ax.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:12:17 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
And amazingly with all this knowledge, the Mayan civilization
collapsed.
Don't you know? Haven't you _heard_? They didn't "collapse", they
simply "vacated the premesis". They fled to the stars - or some *****.
They evaporated?
:-) They'll be back, if they're not already here.
muahahhahahaahhh.... ;-)
I wish I could laugh like that.
Both of your outstanding lack of any knowledge of America is very worthy
of your education. Perhaps if you finished grade school you both would
have a understanding of the history of North and South America. If you
are able to understand what you are reading a good start for you would
be the writings of the Roman Catholic Bishop Diego de Landa back in the
16th Century. That will give you a account of what was found by the
Spanish when they first got here. With a little more research you may
find that in 250 AD they had farms of cotton, and made clothes out of
it, plus metal work. A written language in the form of heiroglyphs that
was five times more complex than the Roman letter style writing you do
in English.
This doesn't count the rope making, and systems they had for the lay
out of roads better than the ones today. The use of the wheel, metal
work. Medical, and dental, Political system, Art, Paper, and schools,
Religion, and a State system of their Country. That's right they were
not just a small State like Country all alone. There were many States
with-in it from many areas. Like you of limited knowledge the Spanish
afraid of what they couldn't understand tried to destroy everything as
the devils work. Some day when your have grown up, and your education is
better try reading The Dresden Codex, Madud Codex, Paris Codex, and
Grolier Codex to better understand these great people. I really don't
think you will be able to get that far, but you may if you apply your
selfs enough in ten to twenty years time.
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