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"Bob Dog" |
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21 Nov 2004 04:10:31 AM |
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More xians getting their panties |
Turn off your irony metres, folks, before they break: xianazis
in Greece are calling Oliver Stoner's portrayal of a bisexual
Alexander "historical revisionism". Obviously these people have
no idea from whence came the sexual euphemism "Greek culture".
These idiots want to sue and force Stone to label the film as
fiction, meanwhile they claim bible videos are fact. 9_9
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=598&ncid=790&e=8&u=/nm/20041119/film_nm/leisure_alexander_dc
Colin Farrell can conquer *me* anytime. Rowr.
Bob Dog
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New 'Alexander' Movie Under Fire for Sexual Portrait
Fri Nov 19, 6:06 PM ET
By Arthur Spiegelman
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Oliver Stone's new film about Alexander
the Great depicts the king as bisexual, fueling outrage from
Greeks and prompting Hollywood to ask if a world conqueror with
dyed blond hair and waxed legs will be able to attract box office
hordes.
One newspaper calls it a case of "Queer Eye for the Macedonian
Guy." Others have speculated that Stone, always a controversial
filmmaker, is taking a big risk with a $160 million epic by
including scenes of passionate embrace between Alexander and his
best friend Hephaestion.
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) says the
film breaks new ground for a big budget epic because it shows
Hephaestion "as the true love of Alexander's life."
A line from the film says: "Alexander was defeated only once --
by Hephaestion's thighs."
Last summer's blockbuster film "Troy," which could have portrayed
Achilles and Patroclus as lovers, brushed aside any homoerotic
elements to concentrate on Achilles desire for a Trojan princess.
Everyone associated with "Alexander," from Stone to star Colin
Farrell, insist the film, which opens on Wednesday, is
historically accurate and reflects the pagan mores of around 330
BC when the Macedonian king captured the world's mightiest empire,
Persia, and pressed on to the ends of the Earth.
Farrell, in a recent interview with Reuters, said he had no
problem with the role because "Oliver made the film as
historically accurate as possible and ambivalent sexuality was
something of the times and part of the character."
Stone said he kept the movie accurate and had an historian on
the set. He added there was no question that Alexander had "a
polymorphous sensuality and was an explorer in the deepest sense
of the world."
British scholar Robin Lane Fox, author of a biography of
Alexander and historical advisor to the film, said homosexuality
and bisexuality were not "issues in ancient times" and that
Alexander had extensive relations with women.
But a group of angry Greek lawyers say Stone and the film's
distributor Warner Bros., a unit of Time Warner Inc., should be
sued for twisting history. The lawyers said they have asked
Stone and Warner Bros. to include a reference in the title
credits saying the film is fictional. Spokesmen for Warner Bros.
and Stone did not have any immediate comment.
"We are not saying that we are against gays, but we are saying
that the production company should make it clear to the audience
that this film is pure fiction and not a true depiction of the
life of Alexander," Yannis Varnakos, who is spearheading the
legal campaign, told Reuters in Athens.
Two years ago, hundreds of Greeks from Alexander's home turf
Macedonia, stormed an archeological symposium after one speaker
presented a paper on the homosexuality of Alexander.
Stone's film, which he had been trying to get on the screen for
15 years, was filmed mainly in Morocco and Thailand. The Athens
News Agency said no scenes were shot in Greece because of
government opposition to Stone's portrayal of the Greek hero.
Asked if he toned down scenes, Stone maintained he shot the film
the way he wanted. The only overtly sexual scene in the movie is
a wedding night love scene between Alexander and his wife
Roxanne that starts with her putting a knife to his throat after
she catches him accepting a ring from Hephaestion, who is played
by Jared Leto wearing eyeliner.
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| User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" |
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| Title: Re: More xians getting their panties |
21 Nov 2004 01:03:18 PM |
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"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
news:4fa573de.0411210210.34461b82@posting.google.com...
Turn off your irony metres, folks, before they break: xianazis
<snip>
Greeks and prompting Hollywood to ask if a world conqueror with
dyed blond hair and waxed legs will be able to attract box office
hordes.
<snip>
Stone said he kept the movie accurate and had an historian on
the set.
A blond Greek? I guess so.
http://www.hellenism.net/eng/alexander.htm
http://www.in2greece.com/english/historymyth/history/ancient/alexander.htm
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: More xians getting their panties |
21 Nov 2004 06:51:25 AM |
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"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
news:4fa573de.0411210210.34461b82@posting.google.com...
Turn off your irony metres, folks, before they break: xianazis
in Greece are calling Oliver Stoner's portrayal of a bisexual
Alexander "historical revisionism". Obviously these people have
no idea from whence came the sexual euphemism "Greek culture".
These idiots want to sue and force Stone to label the film as
fiction, meanwhile they claim bible videos are fact. 9_9
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=598&ncid=790&e=8&u=/nm/20041119/film_nm/leisure_alexander_dc
Colin Farrell can conquer *me* anytime. Rowr.
Get in line, young man! I saw him first! :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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21 Nov 2004 02:06:38 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 07:51:25 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
news:4fa573de.0411210210.34461b82@posting.google.com...
Turn off your irony metres, folks, before they break: xianazis
in Greece are calling Oliver Stoner's portrayal of a bisexual
Alexander "historical revisionism". Obviously these people have
no idea from whence came the sexual euphemism "Greek culture".
These idiots want to sue and force Stone to label the film as
fiction, meanwhile they claim bible videos are fact. 9_9
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=598&ncid=790&e=8&u=/nm/20041119/film_nm/leisure_alexander_dc
Colin Farrell can conquer *me* anytime. Rowr.
Get in line, young man! I saw him first! :)
Yes, but do _you_, my dear witch, have the thighs of Hephaestion? Me
thinks not. Muahahahahahhh... ;-)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: More xians getting their panties |
22 Nov 2004 08:03:12 AM |
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"Uncle Dollar Bill" <UncleDollarBill@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:1ob421zoek80d$.87j7pnadyv2f$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 07:51:25 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
news:4fa573de.0411210210.34461b82@posting.google.com...
Turn off your irony metres, folks, before they break: xianazis
in Greece are calling Oliver Stoner's portrayal of a bisexual
Alexander "historical revisionism". Obviously these people have
no idea from whence came the sexual euphemism "Greek culture".
These idiots want to sue and force Stone to label the film as
fiction, meanwhile they claim bible videos are fact. 9_9
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=598&ncid=790&e=8&u=/nm/20041119/film_nm/leisure_alexander_dc
Colin Farrell can conquer *me* anytime. Rowr.
Get in line, young man! I saw him first! :)
Yes, but do _you_, my dear witch, have the thighs of Hephaestion?
Say what? Sounds suggestive to me!
Me
thinks not. Muahahahahahhh... ;-)
Ummm, okey dokey <walks away, scratching head>
Can I have Jude Law then? :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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