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User: "stoney"
Date: 24 Jun 2007 06:53:52 PM
Object: ‘Most severely wounded’ soldier endures
Endures is right. Poor *****. And he has no way to tell them he
wants to die. The article's last sentence I find quite chilling. Quite
insane, ime.
Once again, Alleycat is shown to be very very right. I'm sure she'd
prefer otherwise.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19403909/
‘Most severely wounded’ soldier endures
Shot in the head, he is blind and a quadriplegic
Updated: 6:56 p.m. ET June 24, 2007
TAMPA, Fla. - {AP}He lies flat, unseeing eyes fixed on the ceiling,
tubes and machines feeding him, breathing for him, keeping him alive. He
cannot walk or talk, but he can grimace and cry. And he is fully aware
of what has happened to him.
Four years ago almost to this day, Joseph Briseno Jr. was shot in the
back of the head at point-blank range in a Baghdad marketplace. His
spinal cord was shattered, and cardiac arrests stole his vision and
damaged his brain.
He is one of the most severely injured soldiers — some think the most
injured soldier — to survive.
“Three things you would not want to be: blind, head injury, and
paralyzed from the neck down. That’s tough,” said Dr. Steven Scott, head
of the Polytrauma Rehabilitation Center at the Tampa VA Medical Center,
where Briseno has twice been hospitalized for extensive care. In recent
days, Briseno was hospitalized yet again, this time at the Washington,
D.C., VA Medical Center.
As a high schooler, Briseno liked the Discovery Channel and CSI, and
wanted to be a forensic scientist or investigator. He was 20 years old,
attending George Mason University, when he was called up from the
reserves and sent to war.
After he was shot, he was flown to Kuwait and then to a military
hospital in Landstuhl, Germany. His parents and two sisters rushed to
his side.
“They told us, ‘Prepare for his service.’ That’s how bad he was,” said
his father, Joseph Briseno Sr., a retired career Army man.
But he survived. From Germany, he went to Walter Reed Army Medical
Center in Bethesda, Md., then to McGuire VA Medical Center in Richmond,
Va. In December 2003, he went home, to Manassas Park, Va., where his
parents, Joseph Sr. and Eva, quit their jobs to care for him.
“All our savings, all our money, was just emptied ... the 401(k)s,
everything,” said Joseph Briseno, who took a new job a year and a half
ago to make ends meet.
‘We learned everything’
Various charities, especially Rebuilding Together, raised money to
renovate their basement, supply a backup generator for the medical
equipment, and install a lift so they can hoist “Jay,” as they call him,
into a chair and bathe him in a handicapped accessible bathroom.
“If you asked me this from the very beginning, if we can handle it, I
wouldn’t lie to you. I would say no, that there is no way. There’s no
way that we’re going to learn all these things. But my wife and I, we
learned everything. We are the respiratory technician, we are the
physical therapists, occupational therapists, speech therapists ... his
wound care nurse,” Joseph Briseno said.
“It’s a lot of work and it’s hard, and some days are harder than the
other days. But we don’t take this as a burden for us because he’s our
son. We will do everything for him.”
The family has help from VA-provided nurses, but not around the clock.
Jay’s mother and father often do overnight duty, making sure their son
is turned every four hours so he does not develop bedsores, which can
become infected and threaten his life. If they do not turn him and keep
him on schedule, he does not sleep well and becomes agitated.
At the Tampa VA, a nurse taught Jay Briseno to swallow his saliva — a
big step that allowed him to have some pureed foods instead of just
tube-feeding. He has not been able to handle any solid food, though —
his injuries are too profound.
More recently, the Tampa staff tried to wean him from the respirator.
This involved painstaking therapy to strengthen his diaphragm by placing
weights on his belly and gradually increasing the air pressure on the
machine to try to create resistance and muscle strength. So far, it
hasn’t worked.
He has had other trials: surgeries, procedures and medications for
bladder problems, high blood pressure, the opening for his breathing
tube, dead tissue on his tongue — even an ingrown toenail. The latest is
the bone disease, osteoporosis.
He can respond to questions by grunting or grimacing, and occasionally
can say “mom” or “go,” but not consistently. He often opens his mouth.
“We believe he is very frustrated because he wants to say something.
Those are the hardest times for us, especially when he’s sick or not
feeling well. He just lays there. We don’t know what’s wrong with him,”
Joseph Briseno said.
They pray that he will continue to improve, not get worse. And they hope
to move to Tampa, where they believe their son can get the best care.
“We always have hope. One day at a time — that’s the way we live our
lives,” the elder Briseno said. “We’re so lucky to have him. He was a
very good son from the very beginning. God gave Jay to us and he’s a
blessing to us.”
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: ‘Most severely wounded’ soldier endures 25 Jun 2007 12:59:29 AM
In article <nb0u7310ftlu06im36vcbheikfho6sttli@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

Endures is right. Poor *****. And he has no way to tell them he
wants to die. The article's last sentence I find quite chilling. Quite
insane, ime.

Once again, Alleycat is shown to be very very right. I'm sure she'd
prefer otherwise.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19403909/

‘Most severely wounded’ soldier endures
Shot in the head, he is blind and a quadriplegic

Updated: 6:56 p.m. ET June 24, 2007

TAMPA, Fla. - {AP}He lies flat, unseeing eyes fixed on the ceiling,
tubes and machines feeding him, breathing for him, keeping him alive. He
cannot walk or talk, but he can grimace and cry. And he is fully aware
of what has happened to him.

Four years ago almost to this day, Joseph Briseno Jr. was shot in the
back of the head at point-blank range in a Baghdad marketplace. His
spinal cord was shattered, and cardiac arrests stole his vision and
damaged his brain.

He is one of the most severely injured soldiers — some think the most
injured soldier — to survive.

“Three things you would not want to be: blind, head injury, and
paralyzed from the neck down. That’s tough,” said Dr. Steven Scott, head
of the Polytrauma Rehabilitation Center at the Tampa VA Medical Center,
where Briseno has twice been hospitalized for extensive care. In recent
days, Briseno was hospitalized yet again, this time at the Washington,
D.C., VA Medical Center.

As a high schooler, Briseno liked the Discovery Channel and CSI, and
wanted to be a forensic scientist or investigator. He was 20 years old,
attending George Mason University, when he was called up from the
reserves and sent to war.

After he was shot, he was flown to Kuwait and then to a military
hospital in Landstuhl, Germany. His parents and two sisters rushed to
his side.

“They told us, ‘Prepare for his service.’ That’s how bad he was,” said
his father, Joseph Briseno Sr., a retired career Army man.

But he survived. From Germany, he went to Walter Reed Army Medical
Center in Bethesda, Md., then to McGuire VA Medical Center in Richmond,
Va. In December 2003, he went home, to Manassas Park, Va., where his
parents, Joseph Sr. and Eva, quit their jobs to care for him.

“All our savings, all our money, was just emptied ... the 401(k)s,
everything,” said Joseph Briseno, who took a new job a year and a half
ago to make ends meet.

‘We learned everything’
Various charities, especially Rebuilding Together, raised money to
renovate their basement, supply a backup generator for the medical
equipment, and install a lift so they can hoist “Jay,” as they call him,
into a chair and bathe him in a handicapped accessible bathroom.

“If you asked me this from the very beginning, if we can handle it, I
wouldn’t lie to you. I would say no, that there is no way. There’s no
way that we’re going to learn all these things. But my wife and I, we
learned everything. We are the respiratory technician, we are the
physical therapists, occupational therapists, speech therapists ... his
wound care nurse,” Joseph Briseno said.

“It’s a lot of work and it’s hard, and some days are harder than the
other days. But we don’t take this as a burden for us because he’s our
son. We will do everything for him.”

The family has help from VA-provided nurses, but not around the clock.
Jay’s mother and father often do overnight duty, making sure their son
is turned every four hours so he does not develop bedsores, which can
become infected and threaten his life. If they do not turn him and keep
him on schedule, he does not sleep well and becomes agitated.

At the Tampa VA, a nurse taught Jay Briseno to swallow his saliva — a
big step that allowed him to have some pureed foods instead of just
tube-feeding. He has not been able to handle any solid food, though —
his injuries are too profound.

More recently, the Tampa staff tried to wean him from the respirator.
This involved painstaking therapy to strengthen his diaphragm by placing
weights on his belly and gradually increasing the air pressure on the
machine to try to create resistance and muscle strength. So far, it
hasn’t worked.

He has had other trials: surgeries, procedures and medications for
bladder problems, high blood pressure, the opening for his breathing
tube, dead tissue on his tongue — even an ingrown toenail. The latest is
the bone disease, osteoporosis.

He can respond to questions by grunting or grimacing, and occasionally
can say “mom” or “go,” but not consistently. He often opens his mouth.

“We believe he is very frustrated because he wants to say something.
Those are the hardest times for us, especially when he’s sick or not
feeling well. He just lays there. We don’t know what’s wrong with him,”
Joseph Briseno said.

They pray that he will continue to improve, not get worse. And they hope
to move to Tampa, where they believe their son can get the best care.

“We always have hope. One day at a time — that’s the way we live our
lives,” the elder Briseno said. “We’re so lucky to have him. He was a
very good son from the very beginning. God gave Jay to us and he’s a
blessing to us.”

Damn! Reminds me of the the very depressing movie "Johnny Got his Gun".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067277/
As far as the last sentence, if that's a "blessing", I'll take a curse
any day. So much for an omnipotent merciful god.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.

User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: 'Most severely wounded' soldier endures 24 Jun 2007 07:07:06 PM
On Jun 24, 6:53 pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:

Endures is right. Poor *****. And he has no way to tell them he
wants to die. The article's last sentence I find quite chilling. Quite
insane, ime.

Once again, Alleycat is shown to be very very right. I'm sure she'd
prefer otherwise.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19403909/

'Most severely wounded' soldier endures
Shot in the head, he is blind and a quadriplegic

Updated: 6:56 p.m. ET June 24, 2007

TAMPA, Fla. - {AP}He lies flat, unseeing eyes fixed on the ceiling,
tubes and machines feeding him, breathing for him, keeping him alive. He
cannot walk or talk, but he can grimace and cry. And he is fully aware
of what has happened to him.

Four years ago almost to this day, Joseph Briseno Jr. was shot in the
back of the head at point-blank range in a Baghdad marketplace. His
spinal cord was shattered, and cardiac arrests stole his vision and
damaged his brain.

He is one of the most severely injured soldiers - some think the most
injured soldier - to survive.

"Three things you would not want to be: blind, head injury, and
paralyzed from the neck down. That's tough," said Dr. Steven Scott, head
of the Polytrauma Rehabilitation Center at the Tampa VA Medical Center,
where Briseno has twice been hospitalized for extensive care. In recent
days, Briseno was hospitalized yet again, this time at the Washington,
D.C., VA Medical Center.

As a high schooler, Briseno liked the Discovery Channel and CSI, and
wanted to be a forensic scientist or investigator. He was 20 years old,
attending George Mason University, when he was called up from the
reserves and sent to war.

After he was shot, he was flown to Kuwait and then to a military
hospital in Landstuhl, Germany. His parents and two sisters rushed to
his side.

"They told us, 'Prepare for his service.' That's how bad he was," said
his father, Joseph Briseno Sr., a retired career Army man.

But he survived. From Germany, he went to Walter Reed Army Medical
Center in Bethesda, Md., then to McGuire VA Medical Center in Richmond,
Va. In December 2003, he went home, to Manassas Park, Va., where his
parents, Joseph Sr. and Eva, quit their jobs to care for him.

"All our savings, all our money, was just emptied ... the 401(k)s,
everything," said Joseph Briseno, who took a new job a year and a half
ago to make ends meet.

'We learned everything'
Various charities, especially Rebuilding Together, raised money to
renovate their basement, supply a backup generator for the medical
equipment, and install a lift so they can hoist "Jay," as they call him,
into a chair and bathe him in a handicapped accessible bathroom.

"If you asked me this from the very beginning, if we can handle it, I
wouldn't lie to you. I would say no, that there is no way. There's no
way that we're going to learn all these things. But my wife and I, we
learned everything. We are the respiratory technician, we are the
physical therapists, occupational therapists, speech therapists ... his
wound care nurse," Joseph Briseno said.

"It's a lot of work and it's hard, and some days are harder than the
other days. But we don't take this as a burden for us because he's our
son. We will do everything for him."

The family has help from VA-provided nurses, but not around the clock.
Jay's mother and father often do overnight duty, making sure their son
is turned every four hours so he does not develop bedsores, which can
become infected and threaten his life. If they do not turn him and keep
him on schedule, he does not sleep well and becomes agitated.

At the Tampa VA, a nurse taught Jay Briseno to swallow his saliva - a
big step that allowed him to have some pureed foods instead of just
tube-feeding. He has not been able to handle any solid food, though -
his injuries are too profound.

More recently, the Tampa staff tried to wean him from the respirator.
This involved painstaking therapy to strengthen his diaphragm by placing
weights on his belly and gradually increasing the air pressure on the
machine to try to create resistance and muscle strength. So far, it
hasn't worked.

He has had other trials: surgeries, procedures and medications for
bladder problems, high blood pressure, the opening for his breathing
tube, dead tissue on his tongue - even an ingrown toenail. The latest is
the bone disease, osteoporosis.

He can respond to questions by grunting or grimacing, and occasionally
can say "mom" or "go," but not consistently. He often opens his mouth.

"We believe he is very frustrated because he wants to say something.
Those are the hardest times for us, especially when he's sick or not
feeling well. He just lays there. We don't know what's wrong with him,"
Joseph Briseno said.

They pray that he will continue to improve, not get worse. And they hope
to move to Tampa, where they believe their son can get the best care.

"We always have hope. One day at a time - that's the way we live our
lives," the elder Briseno said. "We're so lucky to have him. He was a
very good son from the very beginning. God gave Jay to us and he's a
blessing to us."

--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.

-Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic's Dictionary

That put a crimp in my weekend! Thanks a lot, Stoney!!
But you know what got my attention as much as anything? I notice
there's no god anywhere in this. There's all kinds of talk of a god,
but no actual god. I wonder why?!
(There's no evidence anyone was watching this guy's back, either. But
protecting the troops is another issue).
It used to be people would proclaim miracle cures, but we don't see
them any more. If there were a god who wanted to show what he could
do, what better case is there than this?
Never mind this ***** of some mythical Jew being unnecessarily
crucified and then raised from the dead 36 hours later. If this god
wants us to believe, why doesn't he start fixing people like this one?
If this guy got up one morning and was completely cured, if he became
as good as he had been before he was shot, it would be a tough one to
explain.
If others started having the same thing happen, all over the world, in
a concentrated blaze of miraculous cures, where expert medical
histories have shown no hope, then that would be a definite way some
god could get his presence and his message across. If people started
seeing where there had been no sight, hearing where there had been
silence, speaking where there had been no voice, if limbs started
regrowing, if dying hearts started pumping strong, rotting livers
became renewed, shrivelled kidneys became revitalised, brain-death
became brain life, then people would have to stop and think about it.
But we never see that. All we see is what you would expect in a
universe where there is either no god or there's no god who cares.
Now I wonder why that is?
Budikka
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: 'Most severely wounded' soldier endures 15 Jul 2007 07:32:14 PM
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:07:06 -0700, Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Jun 24, 6:53 pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:

Endures is right. Poor *****. And he has no way to tell them he
wants to die. The article's last sentence I find quite chilling. Quite
insane, ime.

Once again, Alleycat is shown to be very very right. I'm sure she'd
prefer otherwise.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19403909/

'Most severely wounded' soldier endures
Shot in the head, he is blind and a quadriplegic

Updated: 6:56 p.m. ET June 24, 2007

TAMPA, Fla. - {AP}He lies flat, unseeing eyes fixed on the ceiling,
tubes and machines feeding him, breathing for him, keeping him alive. He
cannot walk or talk, but he can grimace and cry. And he is fully aware
of what has happened to him.

Four years ago almost to this day, Joseph Briseno Jr. was shot in the
back of the head at point-blank range in a Baghdad marketplace. His
spinal cord was shattered, and cardiac arrests stole his vision and
damaged his brain.

He is one of the most severely injured soldiers - some think the most
injured soldier - to survive.

"Three things you would not want to be: blind, head injury, and
paralyzed from the neck down. That's tough," said Dr. Steven Scott, head
of the Polytrauma Rehabilitation Center at the Tampa VA Medical Center,
where Briseno has twice been hospitalized for extensive care. In recent
days, Briseno was hospitalized yet again, this time at the Washington,
D.C., VA Medical Center.

[]

He has had other trials: surgeries, procedures and medications for
bladder problems, high blood pressure, the opening for his breathing
tube, dead tissue on his tongue - even an ingrown toenail. The latest is
the bone disease, osteoporosis.

He can respond to questions by grunting or grimacing, and occasionally
can say "mom" or "go," but not consistently. He often opens his mouth.

"We believe he is very frustrated because he wants to say something.
Those are the hardest times for us, especially when he's sick or not
feeling well. He just lays there. We don't know what's wrong with him,"
Joseph Briseno said.

They pray that he will continue to improve, not get worse. And they hope
to move to Tampa, where they believe their son can get the best care.

"We always have hope. One day at a time - that's the way we live our
lives," the elder Briseno said. "We're so lucky to have him. He was a
very good son from the very beginning. God gave Jay to us and he's a
blessing to us."

That put a crimp in my weekend! Thanks a lot, Stoney!!

Welcome. [veg!]

But you know what got my attention as much as anything? I notice
there's no god anywhere in this. There's all kinds of talk of a god,
but no actual god. I wonder why?!

You missed the aspect of prayers.

(There's no evidence anyone was watching this guy's back, either. But
protecting the troops is another issue).

The area was a marketplace. Which means full of people going in all
directions and winding around each other. Was the marketplace in the
'green' area? Was it in a area deemed 'low threat?' Was he on duty or
off? At any point in time 'someone' is going to be 'tail end charlie.'

It used to be people would proclaim miracle cures, but we don't see
them any more. If there were a god who wanted to show what he could
do, what better case is there than this?

/cue the Honeymooners skit
Ralph: And just *who* took you to the hospital after you got hit with a
baseball bat?
Norton: You did, Ralph. *After* you hit me with it!

Never mind this ***** of some mythical Jew being unnecessarily
crucified and then raised from the dead 36 hours later. If this god
wants us to believe, why doesn't he start fixing people like this one?

/cue Honeymooners skit.

If this guy got up one morning and was completely cured, if he became
as good as he had been before he was shot, it would be a tough one to
explain.

If others started having the same thing happen, all over the world, in
a concentrated blaze of miraculous cures, where expert medical
histories have shown no hope, then that would be a definite way some
god could get his presence and his message across. If people started
seeing where there had been no sight, hearing where there had been
silence, speaking where there had been no voice, if limbs started
regrowing, if dying hearts started pumping strong, rotting livers
became renewed, shrivelled kidneys became revitalised, brain-death
became brain life, then people would have to stop and think about it.

But we never see that. All we see is what you would expect in a
universe where there is either no god or there's no god who cares.

What's a 'g-o-d?'

Now I wonder why that is?

--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
.


User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: ‘Most severely wounded’ soldier endures 24 Jun 2007 07:59:39 PM
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in news:nb0u7310ftlu06im36vcbheikfho6sttli@
4ax.com:

Endures is right. Poor *****. And he has no way to tell them he
wants to die. The article's last sentence I find quite chilling. Quite
insane, ime.

I've got that covered in *my* living will.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"Literature is mostly about having sex, and not much about having babies;
life is the other way round."
David Lodge
(01/28/1935 - )
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: ‘Most severely wounded’ soldier endures 15 Jul 2007 07:32:39 PM
On 25 Jun 2007 00:59:39 GMT, Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in
alt.atheism

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in news:nb0u7310ftlu06im36vcbheikfho6sttli@
4ax.com:

Endures is right. Poor *****. And he has no way to tell them he
wants to die. The article's last sentence I find quite chilling. Quite
insane, ime.


I've got that covered in *my* living will.

Provided it gets followed.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
.


User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: =?UTF-8?B?4oCYTW9zdCBzZXZlcmVseSB3b3VuZGVk4oCZIHNvbGRpZXIgZW5k?==?UTF-8?B?dXJlcw==?= 25 Jun 2007 07:01:46 AM
stoney expounded:

Endures is right. Poor *****. And he has no way to tell them he
wants to die. The article's last sentence I find quite chilling. Quite
insane, ime.
Once again, Alleycat is shown to be very very right. I'm sure she'd
prefer otherwise.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19403909/
‘Most severely wounded’ soldier endures
Shot in the head, he is blind and a quadriplegic
Updated: 6:56 p.m. ET June 24, 2007
TAMPA, Fla. - {AP}He lies flat, unseeing eyes fixed on the ceiling,
tubes and machines feeding him, breathing for him, keeping him alive. He
cannot walk or talk, but he can grimace and cry. And he is fully aware
of what has happened to him.
Four years ago almost to this day, Joseph Briseno Jr. was shot in the
back of the head at point-blank range in a Baghdad marketplace. His
spinal cord was shattered, and cardiac arrests stole his vision and
damaged his brain.
He is one of the most severely injured soldiers — some think the most
injured soldier — to survive.
“Three things you would not want to be: blind, head injury, and
paralyzed from the neck down. That’s tough,” said Dr. Steven Scott, head
of the Polytrauma Rehabilitation Center at the Tampa VA Medical Center,
where Briseno has twice been hospitalized for extensive care. In recent
days, Briseno was hospitalized yet again, this time at the Washington,
D.C., VA Medical Center.
As a high schooler, Briseno liked the Discovery Channel and CSI, and
wanted to be a forensic scientist or investigator. He was 20 years old,
attending George Mason University, when he was called up from the
reserves and sent to war.
After he was shot, he was flown to Kuwait and then to a military
hospital in Landstuhl, Germany. His parents and two sisters rushed to
his side.
“They told us, ‘Prepare for his service.’ That’s how bad he was,” said
his father, Joseph Briseno Sr., a retired career Army man.
But he survived. From Germany, he went to Walter Reed Army Medical
Center in Bethesda, Md., then to McGuire VA Medical Center in Richmond,
Va. In December 2003, he went home, to Manassas Park, Va., where his
parents, Joseph Sr. and Eva, quit their jobs to care for him.
“All our savings, all our money, was just emptied ... the 401(k)s,
everything,” said Joseph Briseno, who took a new job a year and a half
ago to make ends meet.
‘We learned everything’
Various charities, especially Rebuilding Together, raised money to
renovate their basement, supply a backup generator for the medical
equipment, and install a lift so they can hoist “Jay,” as they call him,
into a chair and bathe him in a handicapped accessible bathroom.
“If you asked me this from the very beginning, if we can handle it, I
wouldn’t lie to you. I would say no, that there is no way. There’s no
way that we’re going to learn all these things. But my wife and I, we
learned everything. We are the respiratory technician, we are the
physical therapists, occupational therapists, speech therapists ... his
wound care nurse,” Joseph Briseno said.
“It’s a lot of work and it’s hard, and some days are harder than the
other days. But we don’t take this as a burden for us because he’s our
son. We will do everything for him.”
The family has help from VA-provided nurses, but not around the clock.
Jay’s mother and father often do overnight duty, making sure their son
is turned every four hours so he does not develop bedsores, which can
become infected and threaten his life. If they do not turn him and keep
him on schedule, he does not sleep well and becomes agitated.
At the Tampa VA, a nurse taught Jay Briseno to swallow his saliva — a
big step that allowed him to have some pureed foods instead of just
tube-feeding. He has not been able to handle any solid food, though —
his injuries are too profound.
More recently, the Tampa staff tried to wean him from the respirator.
This involved painstaking therapy to strengthen his diaphragm by placing
weights on his belly and gradually increasing the air pressure on the
machine to try to create resistance and muscle strength. So far, it
hasn’t worked.
He has had other trials: surgeries, procedures and medications for
bladder problems, high blood pressure, the opening for his breathing
tube, dead tissue on his tongue — even an ingrown toenail. The latest is
the bone disease, osteoporosis.
He can respond to questions by grunting or grimacing, and occasionally
can say “mom” or “go,” but not consistently. He often opens his mouth.
“We believe he is very frustrated because he wants to say something.
Those are the hardest times for us, especially when he’s sick or not
feeling well. He just lays there. We don’t know what’s wrong with him,”
Joseph Briseno said.
They pray that he will continue to improve, not get worse. And they hope
to move to Tampa, where they believe their son can get the best care.
“We always have hope. One day at a time — that’s the way we live our
lives,” the elder Briseno said. “We’re so lucky to have him. He was a
very good son from the very beginning. God gave Jay to us and he’s a
blessing to us.”

If you have not seen the movie, Johnny Got his Gun, 1971, by Dalton
Trumbo, I highly recommend it. I suggest it be watched on a Friday or
Saturday night as recovery time will be needed. Metallica used it in a
music video; the movie has lost none of its power.
A young American soldier (Joe) in WW I is wounded by a landmine. He
loses his arms, legs and eyes as well as his ability to hear, speak or
smell. Lying in hospital, he is not able to distinguish if he is awake
or if he is dreaming. Trying to find out, he relives his story in
strange dreams and memories. One day, Joe finds a way to communicate
with the doctors...
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0067277/
Pang - who remembers the entire movie theater being silent at the end
of the movie - only a smatter of very soft, almost whispered, comments
as everyone filed out... the double date I was on ended with dinner and
dancing forgotten.
--
De inimico non loquaris sed cogites.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: ‘Most severely wounded’ soldier endures 15 Jul 2007 07:39:18 PM
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:01:46 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote in alt.atheism

stoney expounded:

Endures is right. Poor *****. And he has no way to tell them he
wants to die. The article's last sentence I find quite chilling. Quite
insane, ime.


Once again, Alleycat is shown to be very very right. I'm sure she'd
prefer otherwise.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19403909/


‘Most severely wounded’ soldier endures
Shot in the head, he is blind and a quadriplegic


Updated: 6:56 p.m. ET June 24, 2007


TAMPA, Fla. - {AP}He lies flat, unseeing eyes fixed on the ceiling,
tubes and machines feeding him, breathing for him, keeping him alive. He
cannot walk or talk, but he can grimace and cry. And he is fully aware
of what has happened to him.

[]

They pray that he will continue to improve, not get worse. And they hope
to move to Tampa, where they believe their son can get the best care.


“We always have hope. One day at a time — that’s the way we live our
lives,” the elder Briseno said. “We’re so lucky to have him. He was a
very good son from the very beginning. God gave Jay to us and he’s a
blessing to us.”


If you have not seen the movie, Johnny Got his Gun, 1971, by Dalton
Trumbo, I highly recommend it. I suggest it be watched on a Friday or
Saturday night as recovery time will be needed. Metallica used it in a
music video; the movie has lost none of its power.

I don't remember if I've seen it or not. Which video?

A young American soldier (Joe) in WW I is wounded by a landmine. He
loses his arms, legs and eyes as well as his ability to hear, speak or
smell. Lying in hospital, he is not able to distinguish if he is awake
or if he is dreaming. Trying to find out, he relives his story in
strange dreams and memories. One day, Joe finds a way to communicate
with the doctors...

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0067277/

Pang - who remembers the entire movie theater being silent at the end
of the movie - only a smatter of very soft, almost whispered, comments
as everyone filed out... the double date I was on ended with dinner and
dancing forgotten.

Sounds like the reaction of the audience to "The Exorcist." I remember
leaving the theatre and there was a hefty line for tickets. Many took
one look at the exiting faces and vanished.
There's no beauty or glory in war. The only winners are the suppliers
and their stockholders.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: 'Most severely wounded' soldier endures 27 Jun 2007 03:08:38 PM
Pangur Ban wrote:


If you have not seen the movie, Johnny Got his Gun,

\
Don't bother. Read the book.
.
User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: 'Most severely wounded' soldier endures 27 Jun 2007 07:50:23 PM
Mike Painter explicated :

Pangur Ban wrote:


If you have not seen the movie, Johnny Got his Gun,

\
Don't bother. Read the book.

I did that after I saw the movie.... I found both emotionally
devastating.
Pang
--
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito.
.




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