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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 07 May 2005 10:29:53 PM
Object: Mothers Day 2005
Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.
.

User: "Peacenik"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 11:19:33 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.

If my mother had had aborted the fetus that later became me, then I never
would have existed in the first place and therefore would not be around to
know the difference.
<shrugs>
.
User: "dgillesp"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 09 May 2005 12:05:33 PM
Peacenik wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.


If my mother had had aborted the fetus that later became me, then I never
would have existed in the first place and therefore would not be around to
know the difference.

<shrugs>

Does that mean you really don't care one way or the other whether you
are a living, breathing human being today?
Denny
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 09 May 2005 12:30:23 PM
"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:427F985D.61192C56@nospam.net...



Peacenik wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.


If my mother had had aborted the fetus that later became me, then I never
would have existed in the first place and therefore would not be around
to
know the difference.

<shrugs>


Does that mean you really don't care one way or the other whether you
are a living, breathing human being today?

Does this question mean that you're a chauvinist pig?
(See? I can leap to conclusions, too!)
Susan


Denny

.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 12 May 2005 10:53:33 PM
On Mon, 09 May 2005 17:30:23 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net>
wrote:


"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:427F985D.61192C56@nospam.net...



Peacenik wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.


If my mother had had aborted the fetus that later became me, then I never
would have existed in the first place and therefore would not be around
to
know the difference.

<shrugs>


Does that mean you really don't care one way or the other whether you
are a living, breathing human being today?


Does this question mean that you're a chauvinist pig?
(See? I can leap to conclusions, too!)

Add; liar, ignoramous, waste of skin, and soon soon to be in hell for
eternity for his loving torture session.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.

User: "dgillesp"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 09 May 2005 04:27:08 PM
Susan Cohen wrote:


"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:427F985D.61192C56@nospam.net...



Peacenik wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.


If my mother had had aborted the fetus that later became me, then I never
would have existed in the first place and therefore would not be around
to
know the difference.

<shrugs>


Does that mean you really don't care one way or the other whether you
are a living, breathing human being today?


Does this question mean that you're a chauvinist pig?
(See? I can leap to conclusions, too!)

Oink.


Susan


Denny

.



User: "Al Smith"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 09 May 2005 04:38:52 PM
Peacenik wrote:

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those

who

feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you

enough

not to exercize her right to abort you.


If my mother had had aborted the fetus that later became me, then I

never

would have existed in the first place and therefore would not be

around to

know the difference.

<shrugs>

Sometimes abortions survive. I'm not sure, but I don't think there's a
Hallmark card for *that* one.
.
User: "Tim Crowley"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 09 May 2005 05:02:15 PM
Al Smith wrote:

Peacenik wrote:

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those

who

feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you

enough

not to exercize her right to abort you.


If my mother had had aborted the fetus that later became me, then I

never

would have existed in the first place and therefore would not be

around to

know the difference.

<shrugs>


Sometimes abortions survive.

Is that what happened to you, Al? It would explain a lot.
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 12 May 2005 10:54:53 PM
On 9 May 2005 14:38:52 -0700, "Al Smith" <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com>
wrote:


Peacenik wrote:

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those

who

feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you

enough

not to exercize her right to abort you.


If my mother had had aborted the fetus that later became me, then I

never

would have existed in the first place and therefore would not be

around to

know the difference.

<shrugs>


Sometimes abortions survive.

J.Young, Denny Gillespe, Dore, Georgann, George Bush, Cheney,
Rove, Frist, Delay, Pope and Council of Cardinals and more.

'm not sure, but I don't think there's a
Hallmark card for *that* one.

--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 12 May 2005 10:55:34 PM
On 9 May 2005 14:38:52 -0700, "Al Smith" <caddyshack_al@my-deja.com>
wrote:


Peacenik wrote:

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those

who

feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you

enough

not to exercize her right to abort you.


If my mother had had aborted the fetus that later became me, then I

never

would have existed in the first place and therefore would not be

around to

know the difference.

<shrugs>


Sometimes abortions survive.

J.Young, Denny Gillespe, Dore, Georgann, George Bush, Cheney,
Rove, Frist, Delay, Pope and Council of Cardinals and more. Almost
forgot Phred Felcherstone and Fester.

'm not sure, but I don't think there's a
Hallmark card for *that* one.

--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.



User: "Ike"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 07 May 2005 11:36:05 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.

Maybe she just forgot to consider it. If she had it to do over again...?
.
User: "dgillesp"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 09 May 2005 11:51:46 AM
Ike wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.

Maybe she just forgot to consider it. If she had it to do over again...?

Perhaps you wish you had never been born?
.
User: "Ike"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 11 May 2005 09:29:20 PM
"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:427F9522.28B711B7@nospam.net...



Ike wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.

Maybe she just forgot to consider it. If she had it to do over again...?


Perhaps you wish you had never been born?

I was born and I'm here kicking your stupid *****.
.

User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 09 May 2005 12:31:10 PM
"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:427F9522.28B711B7@nospam.net...



Ike wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.

Maybe she just forgot to consider it. If she had it to do over again...?


Perhaps you wish you had never been born?

Perhaps we wish you & the other troll "J. Young" had never been born?
.



User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 07 May 2005 11:46:02 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.

If you had your way - mothers who hate their children would still be forced
to raise them.
Every couple of weeks, in the news, we read about another Extremist
Christian mother, forced to have children she didn't want.
They stone them to death, they beath them to death, they drown them, shoot
them, stab them.
Just this week, they found the head of one of those poor, unloved children.
No child should be forced to live like that just so you can please your God.
If you had your way - many more would.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 07 May 2005 11:55:45 PM
The living siblings of aborted fetuses - how scarey is that! If you
were to find out that your mother killed off what would have been your
brother or sister, whoa! Talk about trauma!
This does happen.
I can see it now: "Hi Mom, I sent you two Mother's Day cards - one from
me, and one from the one you killed off."
.
User: "Sean C"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 01:04:53 PM
In article <1115528145.725991.50070@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote:

The living siblings of aborted fetuses - how scarey is that! If you
were to find out that your mother killed off what would have been your
brother or sister, whoa! Talk about trauma!

This does happen.

I can see it now: "Hi Mom, I sent you two Mother's Day cards - one from
me, and one from the one you killed off."

And don't forget to send a couple of hundred million cards for all the
sperm cells that died when Dad popped the cork on Mom's belly.
Sean C
.



User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 12:02:32 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.

That's right, Bush needs cannon fodder.
Abort them now, or later, it's all the same to him.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet


.
User: "Andrew Louden"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 12:56:19 AM
On Sun, 8 May 2005 00:02:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.


That's right, Bush needs cannon fodder.

Abort them now, or later, it's all the same to him.

I think this link sums up what you said
http://whitehouse.org/initiatives/posters/choose-life.asp
---
"God damned jesus freaks, they reproduce like rats" -- Hunter S. Thompson
.
User: "towelie"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 08:36:49 AM
TV's Andrew Louden wrote:

On Sun, 8 May 2005 00:02:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.


That's right, Bush needs cannon fodder.

Abort them now, or later, it's all the same to him.



I think this link sums up what you said

http://whitehouse.org/initiatives/posters/choose-life.asp

Hahahaha, that's great.
I wonder when the Dumbya fascist regime will lower the enlistment age to 16
or even lower?
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 09:53:33 AM
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8bidnbCy4YZviOPfRVn-rA@centurytel.net:

TV's Andrew Louden wrote:

On Sun, 8 May 2005 00:02:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those
who feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you
enough not to exercize her right to abort you.


That's right, Bush needs cannon fodder.

Abort them now, or later, it's all the same to him.



I think this link sums up what you said

http://whitehouse.org/initiatives/posters/choose-life.asp


Hahahaha, that's great.

I wonder when the Dumbya fascist regime will lower the enlistment age
to 16 or even lower?

I wonder when the Dimmocrats will grow up and act like adults instead of
spoiled children.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.
User: "James"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 01:41:07 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8bidnbCy4YZviOPfRVn-rA@centurytel.net:


TV's Andrew Louden wrote:

On Sun, 8 May 2005 00:02:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those
who feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you
enough not to exercize her right to abort you.


That's right, Bush needs cannon fodder.

Abort them now, or later, it's all the same to him.



I think this link sums up what you said

http://whitehouse.org/initiatives/posters/choose-life.asp


Hahahaha, that's great.

I wonder when the Dumbya fascist regime will lower the enlistment age
to 16 or even lower?



I wonder when the Dimmocrats will grow up and act like adults instead of
spoiled children.

Saying "Dimmocrats" is a sign of maturity?
--
James B, master of the tri-pronged scrotal mount
aa #944
"All that belongs to human understanding, in this
deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical,
or at least cautious; and not to admit of any
hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which
is supported by no appearance of probability."
-David Hume
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 04:03:26 PM
James <spamblock@com.com> wrote in
news:117sn9prniok4ef@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone wrote:

"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8bidnbCy4YZviOPfRVn-rA@centurytel.net:


TV's Andrew Louden wrote:

On Sun, 8 May 2005 00:02:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those
who feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you
enough not to exercize her right to abort you.


That's right, Bush needs cannon fodder.

Abort them now, or later, it's all the same to him.



I think this link sums up what you said

http://whitehouse.org/initiatives/posters/choose-life.asp


Hahahaha, that's great.

I wonder when the Dumbya fascist regime will lower the enlistment age
to 16 or even lower?



I wonder when the Dimmocrats will grow up and act like adults instead
of spoiled children.


Saying "Dimmocrats" is a sign of maturity?

It's irony in the face of the phrase "Dumbya fascist regime".
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
.
User: "James"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 04:17:41 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

James <spamblock@com.com> wrote in
news:117sn9prniok4ef@corp.supernews.com:


Fred Stone wrote:

"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8bidnbCy4YZviOPfRVn-rA@centurytel.net:



TV's Andrew Louden wrote:


On Sun, 8 May 2005 00:02:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:



"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those
who feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you
enough not to exercize her right to abort you.


That's right, Bush needs cannon fodder.

Abort them now, or later, it's all the same to him.



I think this link sums up what you said

http://whitehouse.org/initiatives/posters/choose-life.asp


Hahahaha, that's great.

I wonder when the Dumbya fascist regime will lower the enlistment age
to 16 or even lower?



I wonder when the Dimmocrats will grow up and act like adults instead
of spoiled children.


Saying "Dimmocrats" is a sign of maturity?



It's irony in the face of the phrase "Dumbya fascist regime".

I think it's a pot, kettle, and everything that goes with it.
And that isn't even close to what irony is.
--
James B, master of the tri-pronged scrotal mount
aa #944
"All that belongs to human understanding, in this
deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical,
or at least cautious; and not to admit of any
hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which
is supported by no appearance of probability."
-David Hume
.



User: "towelie"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 11:30:32 AM
TV's Fred Stone wrote:

"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8bidnbCy4YZviOPfRVn-rA@centurytel.net:

TV's Andrew Louden wrote:

On Sun, 8 May 2005 00:02:32 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those
who feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you
enough not to exercize her right to abort you.


That's right, Bush needs cannon fodder.

Abort them now, or later, it's all the same to him.



I think this link sums up what you said

http://whitehouse.org/initiatives/posters/choose-life.asp


Hahahaha, that's great.

I wonder when the Dumbya fascist regime will lower the enlistment age
to 16 or even lower?


I wonder when the Dimmocrats will grow up and act like adults instead of
spoiled children.

When the Repugnadumbs quit fucking children.
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
.





User: "Tim Benzedrine"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 05:55:44 AM
I saw "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
where?
there on the stair
where on the stair?
right there
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> with clogs on
well I declare!
going:

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.

I'll pass your greetings to my friend who had her baby three weeks ago
and is still in hospital - and I don't mean the medical bit.
Done. My friend says "***** you very much!".
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Due to be prayed for by Gastrich 11.3.2011
.

User: "Pat Winstanley"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 08:05:28 AM
In article <1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.


Given that no person can abort any other person, your comments above are
a load of codswallop! ;-))
.

User: "Sean C"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 12:54:42 PM
In article <1115522993.874361.290900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even those who
feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother loved you enough
not to exercize her right to abort you.

In your case an abortion would have been an act of love.
Sean C
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 08 May 2005 12:18:31 AM
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women.

How nice of you to decide for others what they should value.
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STUDY REPORTS RISE IN CHILDBIRTH DEATHS
San Jose Mercury News (SJ) - Tuesday, June 11, 1996
By: New York Times

UNITED NATIONS In the first comprehensive survey in a decade to look at
maternal deaths worldwide, UNICEF reported Monday that about 585,000 women die
each year during pregnancy and childbirth, many needlessly.

Millions more, perhaps as many as 18 million women, suffer debilitating
illnesses or injuries that often disable them.

The figures are nearly one-fifth higher than previous estimates of about
500,000 deaths, according to the report by UNICEF, the United Nations Childrens
Fund, which compiled the new data with the World Health Organization and Johns
Hopkins University.

Much of the tragedy is preventable, the study says.

"For the most part, these are the deaths not of the ill, or the very old,
or the very young, but of healthy women in the prime of their lives," says the
report, the Progress of Nations 1996.

Data from the report indicate that one in 13 women in sub-Saharan Africa
and one in 35 in South Asia dies of causes related to pregnancy and childbirth,
according to UNICEF officials, compared with one in 3,200 in Europe, one in
3,300 in the United States, and one in 7,300 in Canada.

The survey faults the shortage of obstetric care in many nations. It calls
for the proper medical training of more midwives who would be better qualified
than traditional birth attendants to assist mothers before, during and after
delivery.

About 75,000 women die annually of botched abortions and another 75,000 of
brain and kidney damage in eclampsia, a disorder that can cause high blood
pressure and convulsions late in pregnancy. At least 100,000 die of blood
poisoning and 40,000 of obstructed labor.

The report on maternal risks, prepared under UNICEF's director, Carol
Bellamy, a former New York City Council president and director of the Peace
Corps who took over the agency last year, is notably stronger in its language
and imagery than many U.N. publications.

The new figures produced in the UNICEF report raised some questions among
experts, who say that getting accurate information on maternal mortality is
notoriously difficult. At Harvard University, Lincoln Chen, professor of
international health and head of the Center for Population and Development
Studies, said that the difference between 500,000 maternal deaths, the
previously accepted figure, and 585,000 or 600,000 may fall within a margin of
error, since all such numbers were "insecure."

More information at http://www.unicef.org/pon96/contents.htm
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "dgillesp"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 09 May 2005 12:01:01 PM
Ray Fischer wrote:


J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women.


How nice of you to decide for others what they should value.

Doesn't that imply that nothing (and no one)is of any value whatever
unless so endowed by others?
Denny


-------------------------------------------------

STUDY REPORTS RISE IN CHILDBIRTH DEATHS
San Jose Mercury News (SJ) - Tuesday, June 11, 1996
By: New York Times

UNITED NATIONS In the first comprehensive survey in a decade to look at
maternal deaths worldwide, UNICEF reported Monday that about 585,000 women die
each year during pregnancy and childbirth, many needlessly.

Millions more, perhaps as many as 18 million women, suffer debilitating
illnesses or injuries that often disable them.

The figures are nearly one-fifth higher than previous estimates of about
500,000 deaths, according to the report by UNICEF, the United Nations Childrens
Fund, which compiled the new data with the World Health Organization and Johns
Hopkins University.

Much of the tragedy is preventable, the study says.

"For the most part, these are the deaths not of the ill, or the very old,
or the very young, but of healthy women in the prime of their lives," says the
report, the Progress of Nations 1996.

Data from the report indicate that one in 13 women in sub-Saharan Africa
and one in 35 in South Asia dies of causes related to pregnancy and childbirth,
according to UNICEF officials, compared with one in 3,200 in Europe, one in
3,300 in the United States, and one in 7,300 in Canada.

The survey faults the shortage of obstetric care in many nations. It calls
for the proper medical training of more midwives who would be better qualified
than traditional birth attendants to assist mothers before, during and after
delivery.

About 75,000 women die annually of botched abortions and another 75,000 of
brain and kidney damage in eclampsia, a disorder that can cause high blood
pressure and convulsions late in pregnancy. At least 100,000 die of blood
poisoning and 40,000 of obstructed labor.

The report on maternal risks, prepared under UNICEF's director, Carol
Bellamy, a former New York City Council president and director of the Peace
Corps who took over the agency last year, is notably stronger in its language
and imagery than many U.N. publications.

The new figures produced in the UNICEF report raised some questions among
experts, who say that getting accurate information on maternal mortality is
notoriously difficult. At Harvard University, Lincoln Chen, professor of
international health and head of the Center for Population and Development
Studies, said that the difference between 500,000 maternal deaths, the
previously accepted figure, and 585,000 or 600,000 may fall within a margin of
error, since all such numbers were "insecure."

More information at http://www.unicef.org/pon96/contents.htm

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 09 May 2005 12:32:11 PM
"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:427F974D.652D38F6@nospam.net...



Ray Fischer wrote:


J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood is
perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women.


How nice of you to decide for others what they should value.


Doesn't that imply that nothing (and no one) is of any value whatever
unless so endowed by others?

Hmm, that might just be what J. Young had in "mind" with his biased little
hypocrisy. Thanks for pointing it out.
Susan


Denny


-------------------------------------------------

STUDY REPORTS RISE IN CHILDBIRTH DEATHS
San Jose Mercury News (SJ) - Tuesday, June 11, 1996
By: New York Times

UNITED NATIONS In the first comprehensive survey in a decade to look
at
maternal deaths worldwide, UNICEF reported Monday that about 585,000
women die
each year during pregnancy and childbirth, many needlessly.

Millions more, perhaps as many as 18 million women, suffer
debilitating
illnesses or injuries that often disable them.

The figures are nearly one-fifth higher than previous estimates of
about
500,000 deaths, according to the report by UNICEF, the United Nations
Childrens
Fund, which compiled the new data with the World Health Organization and
Johns
Hopkins University.

Much of the tragedy is preventable, the study says.

"For the most part, these are the deaths not of the ill, or the very
old,
or the very young, but of healthy women in the prime of their lives,"
says the
report, the Progress of Nations 1996.

Data from the report indicate that one in 13 women in sub-Saharan
Africa
and one in 35 in South Asia dies of causes related to pregnancy and
childbirth,
according to UNICEF officials, compared with one in 3,200 in Europe, one
in
3,300 in the United States, and one in 7,300 in Canada.

The survey faults the shortage of obstetric care in many nations. It
calls
for the proper medical training of more midwives who would be better
qualified
than traditional birth attendants to assist mothers before, during and
after
delivery.

About 75,000 women die annually of botched abortions and another
75,000 of
brain and kidney damage in eclampsia, a disorder that can cause high
blood
pressure and convulsions late in pregnancy. At least 100,000 die of blood
poisoning and 40,000 of obstructed labor.

The report on maternal risks, prepared under UNICEF's director,
Carol
Bellamy, a former New York City Council president and director of the
Peace
Corps who took over the agency last year, is notably stronger in its
language
and imagery than many U.N. publications.

The new figures produced in the UNICEF report raised some questions
among
experts, who say that getting accurate information on maternal mortality
is
notoriously difficult. At Harvard University, Lincoln Chen, professor of
international health and head of the Center for Population and
Development
Studies, said that the difference between 500,000 maternal deaths, the
previously accepted figure, and 585,000 or 600,000 may fall within a
margin of
error, since all such numbers were "insecure."

More information at http://www.unicef.org/pon96/contents.htm

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.



User: ""

Title: Re: Mothers Day 2005 09 May 2005 10:12:11 AM
J Young wrote:

Allow me to extend to ALL a very happy Mothers Day. Motherhood
is perhaps the most sacred of gifts bestowed upon women. Even
those who feel glum can take comfort knowing that your mother
loved you enough not to exercize her right to abort you.

Do you think of your mother as a valuable person in her own right, or
simply as the means by which you were born? If you could have, would
you have forced your mother to bear you, regardless of whatever it cost
her?
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