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"Daniel Joseph Min" |
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14 Dec 2005 09:08:33 PM |
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Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
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BECAUSE ATHEISM IS properly defined as a "belief", e.g.,
quoting from Webster's New World Dictionary & Thesaurus:
"Atheism -
the *belief* that there is no God, or denial that
God or gods exist." [end quote, emphasis added]
Thus Atheism is properly a (ir)religious belief, and so
adherents and proponents of Atheism are equally as much
believers in their godless religion of Atheism as other
believers in other contrastingly less-godless religions
are likewise believers their respective religions; some
devout believers, some less devout in their convictions.
Now, because Atheists hijacked America's public schools
and America's justice system some decades ago, Atheism
has been the official religion taught in public schools
and enforced in the liberal-biased courtrooms nationwide.
Beginning next year, those dark days of history are OVER!
No, the religion of Atheism isn't going to be banned from
public classrooms or courtrooms. Rather, the strength of
our great nation,--the greatest, most prosperous, generous
and powerful nation in recorded world history,--is that we
not only tolerate freedom of religion and freedom of speech,
we *encourage* every law-abiding American citizen to believe
in their beliefs and express their beliefs however they see
fit; and to pursue life, liberty and happiness in every way
that they possibly can...strictly within the law, of course.
Thanks to Alito's right-wing seat on the Supreme Court, we'll
soon see the ever-more popular theory of 'Intelligent Design'
being taught right alongside the ever-less popular theory of
Evolution. No, our public school teachers won't stop teaching
the theory of Evolution, but will in effect "superimpose" the
theory of 'Intelligent Design' over the top of it, so to speak.
Also, contrary to the fear mongering and misconceptions being
propagated from the now politically-disempowered and inviable
left, we're not going to outlaw Atheism or any other religion
as long as their adherents don't break the law--THAT's the key.
Once you understand that freedom of religion is the strength
of the United States of America and her unassailably-dominant
rule over global destiny, then you'll realize that people of
all religious faiths--even dyed-in-the-wool Atheists--will
soon be mutually free to openly worship according to their
beliefs and to express their beliefs in public schools, as
long as they're not violating any school rules, or breaking
any ordinances or other local, city, state or federal laws.
For example, Atheists will continue to boast in many public
places about how they *believe* there is no God, no divine
Creator, no soul or spirit, no ghosts, no angels or demons,
nothing paranormal or supernatural whatsoever. And that's
their right to do so. If they want to go around making fools
of themselves by mocking others' heartfelt religious beliefs
in public, then that's their right to do it; to believe what
they want, and to express their beliefs openly--even if you
abhor them and vehemently disagree with everything they say.
Likewise, believers in other religions, Wiccans, Astrologers,
Tarot Readers, Psychics, Occultists, Christians, Jews, Hindus,
Muslims, Buddhists, Mormons, Theosophists, Zoroastrianists,
Shintoists, Taoists, Bahais, Gnostics, Deists, Theists, Poly-
theists, Satanists, Tree-worshippers, et cetera ad infinitum:
ALL law-abiding citizens will soon be free to believe what
they choose to believe and to openly express their beliefs
in public places, as long as they're not breaking any rules
or laws to the contrary. And the Supreme Court will guarantee
that freedom of religion will be mainstream in public schools
and courtrooms. The Ten Commandments will be displayed in view.
That's what scares the hell out of the Atheists, since they
will soon lose their draconian stranglehold over America's
public schools and courtrooms all across our great nation.
And Yes, fanatical factions on the far-left AND on the far-
right aren't likely at first to be too enthusiastic about
freedom of belief--even religious belief--becoming federal
law. Change is often painful, especially for those clinging
to unjust, obsolete, ergo religiously-intolerant ideologies.
But that's okay, they'll just die off, eventually. And new
generations won't even remember the abject foolishness and
oppressiveness of the religiously-intolerant Atheists who'd
tried so hard to keep the American public in the dark for so
long. Cat's out o' the bag: Atheism is ONLY another religion,
a very dull, unspiritual and unenlightened religion at that. :-D
What's GOING to happen is that every man, woman and child in
the world is going to find out that God loves everyone, and
wants every soul to succeed--even if it take a million years.
God doesn't let anyone off the hook. Even the unwisest, evil-
doing souls who've incurred massive indebtedness against the
great Spirit must eventually pay *every* last penny they owe
in saecula saeculorum, into the ages of the ages. It's the LAW.
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7
*Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books:
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
*Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The WWW:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=XJBDEJF138262.9022453704@anonymous.poster
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20 Jan 2006 12:40:40 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:10:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:06:48 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"James Scannell" <jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:50:46 +1000, "Blueboy" <nisham@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
To you the Godless: if for you, there is nothing higher than you that is
beyond your understanding of the realm of your reality, then so be it!
But
don't deny the existence of God when He touches your life, because you
will
be denying it only to yourself.
Yet another stupid, lying theist attacking a straw man of his own
devising.
Either prove it exists in the real world outside your deluded
imagination, or shut the ***** up.
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
And you are like a troll posting on Usenet.
I've never understood why "polite society" allows and even encourages
assholes like him him to lie about us, and we're expected to put
upwith it.
Because "polite society" isn't.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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16 Jan 2006 09:06:32 AM |
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> let us all know that:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:50:46 +1000, "Blueboy" <nisham@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
To you the Godless: if for you, there is nothing higher than you that is
beyond your understanding of the realm of your reality, then so be it! But
don't deny the existence of God when He touches your life, because you
will
be denying it only to yourself.
Yet another stupid, lying theist attacking a straw man of his own
devising.
Either prove it exists in the real world outside your deluded
imagination, or shut the ***** up.
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
Don
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| User: "James Scannell" |
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16 Jan 2006 09:41:29 AM |
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"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
In order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change of
perspective.
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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17 Jan 2006 08:21:12 AM |
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"James Scannell" <jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote in
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"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
In order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant
of the research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research
done on LSD in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon,
research done on hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual
healing. If an atheist did enough investigation in any of those
fields they will have a change of perspective.
Conflating quantum physics, an established scientific field with vast
amounts of evidentiary support, with those other bits of
pseudoscientific claptrap will not advance your case, Jim. The hard
research done on things like LSD or hypnotic regression do not support
the existence of anything resembling supernatural phenomena.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Point the finger and make a fuss
before someone points the finger at us."
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| User: "Steve O" |
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16 Jan 2006 01:45:40 PM |
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"James Scannell" <jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
In order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of
the research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done
on LSD in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research
done on hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If
an atheist did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have
a change of perspective.
I am ignorant in none of those areas and yet I remain an atheist.
You are incorrect and you are making assumptions.
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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16 Jan 2006 08:59:08 PM |
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> let us all know that:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
In order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon,
None of those show anything about god.
research done on hypnotic regression,
Nor that.
and research done on spiritual healing.
All such research shows that "spiritual healing" and
"spiritual healers" are frauds, con-men, and liars.
Did you have anything to say that doesn't make you look like a
fucking moron?
Don
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| User: "John Baker" |
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16 Jan 2006 04:25:27 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
In order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change of
perspective.
Son, I'd dare say that 90% of the regulars in alt.atheism have
forgotten more than you ever knew about any of the above subjects. Not
only do none of them provide any supporting evidence for the existence
of any gods, including the Judao-Christian one, at least three of them
are themselves totally unsupported by any real, testable, verifiable
objective evidence.
It appears your hypothesis is fatally flawed. <G>
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "James Scannell" |
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17 Jan 2006 02:29:17 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote:
In order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of
the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on
LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done
on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an
atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change of
perspective.
Son, I'd dare say that 90% of the regulars in alt.atheism have
forgotten more than you ever knew about any of the above subjects. Not
only do none of them provide any supporting evidence for the existence
of any gods, including the Judao-Christian one, at least three of them
are themselves totally unsupported by any real, testable, verifiable
objective evidence.
Tell me, is ignorance bliss? You should know. You ARE talking out of your
*****. I read more in the last year than you have probably read in your
entire life.
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "John Baker" |
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17 Jan 2006 07:01:44 AM |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:29:17 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote:
In order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of
the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on
LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done
on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an
atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change of
perspective.
Son, I'd dare say that 90% of the regulars in alt.atheism have
forgotten more than you ever knew about any of the above subjects. Not
only do none of them provide any supporting evidence for the existence
of any gods, including the Judao-Christian one, at least three of them
are themselves totally unsupported by any real, testable, verifiable
objective evidence.
Tell me, is ignorance bliss? You should know.
I have no personal experience in that area, but I'll wager that if the
saying is true, you are a much happier man than I..
You ARE talking out of your
*****.
Well, one of us is. Of course, for you talking out your ***** is
natural, since it's apparently where you keep your head.
I read more in the last year than you have probably read in your
entire life.
Son, even if you were Evelyn Wood's star pupil you couldn't even come
close to accomplishing that feat.
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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17 Jan 2006 06:38:19 AM |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:29:17 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote:
In order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of
the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on
LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done
on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an
atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change of
perspective.
Son, I'd dare say that 90% of the regulars in alt.atheism have
forgotten more than you ever knew about any of the above subjects. Not
only do none of them provide any supporting evidence for the existence
of any gods, including the Judao-Christian one, at least three of them
are themselves totally unsupported by any real, testable, verifiable
objective evidence.
Tell me, is ignorance bliss? You should know. You ARE talking out of your
*****. I read more in the last year than you have probably read in your
entire life.
The pseudo-scientist kook resorts to personal lies again.
How the ***** did your crap about somebody who believes the universe is
a hologram, prove God?
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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16 Jan 2006 11:09:41 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, James Scannell wrote:
in order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change of
perspective.
I counted 5 lies in that statement.
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| User: "James Scannell" |
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16 Jan 2006 11:24:22 AM |
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"Sanity's little helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, James Scannell wrote:
in order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of
the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on
LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done
on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an
atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change
of
perspective.
I counted 5 lies in that statement.
Bull. You are afraid to do the research because you are afraid that God
might exist or that you would find that reality is not what you think it is.
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "Steve O" |
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16 Jan 2006 01:47:07 PM |
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"James Scannell" <jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Sanity's little helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, James Scannell wrote:
in order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of
the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on
LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done
on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an
atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change
of
perspective.
I counted 5 lies in that statement.
Bull. You are afraid to do the research because you are afraid that God
might exist or that you would find that reality is not what you think it
is.
Perhaps you would care to explain how one is supposed to research the
existence of a God or Gods?
BTW, what is there to be afraid of?
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| User: "James Scannell" |
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16 Jan 2006 01:56:37 PM |
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"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Perhaps you would care to explain how one is supposed to research the
existence of a God or Gods?
BTW, what is there to be afraid of?
Your ego taking damage from being wrong. That is the main reason for
atheists being close-minded. That is why they need to ignore things they
can not explain such as ESP, clairvoyance and premonitions.
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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16 Jan 2006 10:49:39 PM |
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:56:37 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> let us all know that:
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Perhaps you would care to explain how one is supposed to research the
existence of a God or Gods?
BTW, what is there to be afraid of?
Your ego taking damage from being wrong. That is the main reason for
atheists being close-minded. That is why they need to ignore things they
can not explain such as ESP, clairvoyance and premonitions.
What's to explain? Those things don't happen.
Don
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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16 Jan 2006 02:03:00 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:56:37 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote:
"Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Perhaps you would care to explain how one is supposed to research the
existence of a God or Gods?
BTW, what is there to be afraid of?
Your ego taking damage from being wrong.
Two more lies in that sentence.
That is the main reason for
atheists being close-minded.
Two more in that one.
That is why they need to ignore things they
can not explain such as ESP, clairvoyance and premonitions.
And several more in that one.
What do you imagine you are achieving by lying about atheists to
atheists?
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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16 Jan 2006 06:05:45 PM |
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James Scannell wrote:
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
Hi James - decided to check out your website to see who or what you
are.
You are into a weird mixture of stuff. Kinda interesting and well read
for a Kook.
8-)
(Kooks are usually very narrow focused and obsessive.)
Anyhooo...
I would like to point out a scientific error of fact in one of your
articles.
<quote>
Where the idea of "Family Values" comes from
Women are the carriers of superior DNA (mitochondrial DNA found in the
Y chromosome) while men, having both X and Y are at the whim of women
because they do not have the personal power to dominate without
compassion. Y IS the source of compassion in all human beings and X is
the desire to control.
<endquote>
Women have two copies of the "X" chromosome XX while men are XY.
This means that women are genetically more robust than males as if they
have a faulty gene on one X - they have a "spare" to compensate.
It also means they get a "double" dose of some good stuff - crudely
speaking.
If a male has a faulty X - he dies in the womb or is born with a
debilitating disease.
The Y is a tiny chromosome - the smallest of all.
Its job is to modify the basic human form (female) to make a male - to
form testies and penis basically - and the testies does the rest during
development.
Mitochondrial DNA is not found on the X or the Y chromosome - it is a
seperate bit of DNA contained inside cells (inside the mitochondria
inside cells) - we get mitochondrial DNA from our mothers only because
its in the egg - the sperm does contain mitocondria but that never gets
passed into the fertalized egg only the fathers Nuclear DNA (including
a Y to make a boy, or an X to make a girl) gets based to the embryo.
Hope that hepls you understand this stuff a little better.
OH! One more thing.
I am an atheist - but I dont think that makes me a "bad" person.
8-)
Peace, Mark.
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17 Jan 2006 02:36:11 AM |
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<m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in message
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Women have two copies of the "X" chromosome XX while men are XY.
This means that women are genetically more robust than males as if they
have a faulty gene on one X - they have a "spare" to compensate.
It also means they get a "double" dose of some good stuff - crudely
speaking.
If a male has a faulty X - he dies in the womb or is born with a
debilitating disease.
The Y is a tiny chromosome - the smallest of all.
Its job is to modify the basic human form (female) to make a male - to
form testies and penis basically - and the testies does the rest during
development.
Mitochondrial DNA is not found on the X or the Y chromosome - it is a
seperate bit of DNA contained inside cells (inside the mitochondria
inside cells) - we get mitochondrial DNA from our mothers only because
its in the egg - the sperm does contain mitocondria but that never gets
passed into the fertalized egg only the fathers Nuclear DNA (including
a Y to make a boy, or an X to make a girl) gets based to the embryo.
Hope that hepls you understand this stuff a little better.
Actually I know that you are correct. I wrote that page a LONG time ago,
that is why I do NOT link to it ANYWHERE. Did you also know that it has
been determined that all mitochondrial DNA has been traced to a common
origin 300,000 old? Are you also aware that the scientific evidence to that
fact substantiates the 3,500-5,500 year old clay Sumerian tablets unearthed
150 years ago which predate the bible by 1000 years and is the obvious
source of the book of Genesis?
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 11:28:17 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:24:22 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote:
"Sanity's little helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, James Scannell wrote:
in order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of
the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on
LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done
on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an
atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change
of
perspective.
I counted 5 lies in that statement.
Bull. You are afraid to do the research because you are afraid that God
might exist or that you would find that reality is not what you think it is.
And three more in that sentence.
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "Sanitys little helper" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 11:31:48 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:24:22 GMT, James Scannell wrote:
"Sanity's little helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, James Scannell wrote:
in order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of
the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on
LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done
on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an
atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change
of
perspective.
I counted 5 lies in that statement.
Bull. You are afraid to do the research because you are afraid that God
might exist or that you would find that reality is not what you think it is.
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
You're the one with the problem. Take it somewhere where you can get help
with it.
--
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208, HB #6
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| User: "James Scannell" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 01:29:01 PM |
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"Sanity's little helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:24:22 GMT, James Scannell wrote:
"Sanity's little helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
news:184yqt9rjb2xg.1vcuji44lbzxp$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, James Scannell wrote:
in order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of
the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on
LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research
done
on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an
atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change
of
perspective.
I counted 5 lies in that statement.
Bull. You are afraid to do the research because you are afraid that God
might exist or that you would find that reality is not what you think it
is.
You're the one with the problem. Take it somewhere where you can get help
with it.
You will NOT convince me or anyone else that you have thoroughly
investigated ANY of the five fields of research that I listed. You, sir,
are the liar.
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 11:27:39 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:09:41 +0000, Sanity's little helper
<elvish@noshpam.net> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:29 GMT, James Scannell wrote:
in order for a person to be an atheist the person has to be ignorant of the
research done in quantum physics in the last 20 years, research done on LSD
in the 1950s and 60s, research done on psychic phenomenon, research done on
hypnotic regression, and research done on spiritual healing. If an atheist
did enough investigation in any of those fields they will have a change of
perspective.
I counted 5 lies in that statement.
But he's not a liar. He says so himself, and he wouldn't lie about
that, would he?
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| User: "James Scannell" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 09:20:41 AM |
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"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
You're real clever. Can you see air? Does it exist? How do you know if
you can't see it? Does radiation exist? How do you know? Are you taking
someone else's word for it? There are probably more people who "believe" in
God than there are that "believe" in radiation since there are probably more
people ignorant of the existence radiation and what it is than there are
atheists.
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "Steve O" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 01:44:00 PM |
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"James Scannell" <jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
You're real clever. Can you see air? Does it exist?
You're not as clever as Don
Don never made the claim that you have to see something before it can be
proven to exist.
How do you know if you can't see it?
You can feel it against your skin?
Does radiation exist?
Yes.
How do you know?
Try sticking your head in a nuclear reactor and see what happens.
You would be left in no doubt that radiation exists.
Are you taking someone else's word for it?
No, I have actually burnt my own hand in a faulty microwave oven before.
There are probably more people who "believe" in God than there are that
"believe" in radiation since there are probably more people ignorant of the
existence radiation and what it is than there are atheists.
I see, so any God will do then?
As long as it's a God, right?
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 05:31:56 PM |
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"James Scannell" <jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
You're real clever. Can you see air? Does it exist? How do you know if
you can't see it? Does radiation exist? How do you know? Are you taking
someone else's word for it? There are probably more people who "believe"
in God than there are that "believe" in radiation since there are probably
more people ignorant of the existence radiation and what it is than there
are atheists.
Then, you won't mind staying in a room full of radioactive
material and no air for an hour, will you?
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 08:57:36 PM |
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:20:41 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> let us all know that:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
You're real clever.
I know.
Can you see air?
Yes. And we have machinations to help us detect air, such as a
barometer (pressure), hygrometer (humidity), anemometer (air speed),
thermometer (temperature). We have no such for god.
And we can define air coherently. We have no such coherent
definition of god.
. There is no sensal modality to detect god. We have no
coherent definition of god, period. So when you say "god", you have no
idea what you're talking about. You're just spouting gibberish.
Don
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 09:01:30 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:57:36 -0600, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:20:41 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> let us all know that:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
You're real clever.
I know.
Can you see air?
Yes. And we have machinations to help us detect air, such as a
barometer (pressure), hygrometer (humidity), anemometer (air speed),
thermometer (temperature). We have no such for god.
And we can define air coherently. We have no such coherent
definition of god.
. There is no sensal modality to detect god. We have no
coherent definition of god, period. So when you say "god", you have no
idea what you're talking about. You're just spouting gibberish.
Let him demonstrate God to the same level of confidence as air.
So many of them do this dishonest comparison. Do they honestly imagine
it is going to convince antbody?And they wonder why we know they're
stupid.
"God exists"
"Prove it"
"You can't see air"
We can't see air therfore God exists?
Don
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 04:02:05 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:20:41 GMT, "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> wrote:
"Don Kresch" <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:48:46 GMT, "James Scannell"
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
No, he's like a person denying the existence of something that
doesn't exist.
You're real clever. Can you see air? Does it exist? How do you know if
you can't see it? Does radiation exist? How do you know? Are you taking
someone else's word for it? There are probably more people who "believe" in
God than there are that "believe" in radiation since there are probably more
people ignorant of the existence radiation and what it is than there are
atheists.
I've seen my share of weak arguments, but that has to be one of the
weakest.
Jim Scannell
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/Books.htm
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 07:28:57 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "James Scannell"
<jscannell@wi.rr.com> posting the following on Mon, 16 Jan 2006
15:20:41 GMT iin alt.atheism?
You're real clever. Can you see air?
Of course. What do you think makes distant objects blurry? I can
also hear it, smell it, and even taste it. Feeling the air happens
every time I ride my bike.
Does it exist? How do you know if
you can't see it?
Does radiation exist? How do you know? Are you taking
someone else's word for it?
I've done experiments where exposing film to a suspected radiation
source caused the film to fog. That is demonstratable, repeatable
evidence. We could go on with the other proofs of radiation, but you
get my point.
There are probably more people who "believe" in
God than there are that "believe" in radiation since there are probably more
people ignorant of the existence radiation and what it is than there are
atheists.
I think most anyone born after 1945 knows what radiation is.. growing
up in the nuclear age will do that for you.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: Move Over, Atheists! `~ |
16 Jan 2006 05:35:37 PM |
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James Scannell wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:50:46 +1000, "Blueboy" <nisham@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
To you the Godless: if for you, there is nothing higher than you that is
beyond your understanding of the realm of your reality, then so be it! But
don't deny the existence of God when He touches your life, because you
will
be denying it only to yourself.
Yet another stupid, lying theist attacking a straw man of his own
devising.
Either prove it exists in the real world outside your deluded
imagination, or shut the ***** up.
You are like a fish denying the existance of water.
Is that a poem?
Nice.
Mark.
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