Religions > Atheism > MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!
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"Michael Marxist Moore" |
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19 Aug 2004 11:10:23 AM |
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MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!
Will Remain There Until November 3, Party Officials Confirm
The Democratic National Committee confirmed today that Teresa Heinz
Kerry, wife of presidential nominee John Kerry, has been moved to a
secure undisclosed location and will remain there until November 3,
the day after the fall election.
In a terse statement released to reporters at the party convention in
Boston, the DNC indicated that "Mrs. Kerry has agreed with party
officials that she could make her most valuable contributions to the
presidential campaign from a soundproof chamber buried miles beneath
the earth's crust."
The DNC would not elaborate on when and how the outspoken Mrs. Kerry
made her departure from Boston, but sources said yesterday that the
she was spirited away from her hotel under cover of darkness by what
are being described as "burly Democratic party goons."
"There was some sort of struggle, a whole lot of swearing, and then
nothing," said one witness. "I think chloroform and a tube sock may
have played a role."
Mrs. Kerry's departure from the campaign occurred just hours after she
took great pains to explain why she told a reporter on Monday to
"shove it."
"In my native Mozambique, 'shove it' is the same as 'shalom,'" she
said. "It means hello, goodbye and peace."
But when a reporter challenged this explanation, she snapped, "You can
take a 64-oz bottle of Heinz ketchup and shove it up your *****,
douchebag."
Regaining her composure, Mrs. Kerry said that in Mozambique, inviting
someone to shove a ketchup bottle up his or her ***** was the same thing
as saying "Have a nice day."
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! FASCISTS ARE DESPEATE LIARS!! |
19 Aug 2004 03:22:31 PM |
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"Michael Marxist Moore" <mmmoore@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote in message
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MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!
[snip loser fantasy]
IOW, you have no issues to discuss, just this stupid ad hominem.
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| User: "Jorge dubya the War Hero" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
20 Aug 2004 01:47:19 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, A thieving fraud wrote:
MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!!
This is a spoof taken from Andy Borowitz's site, you F'n 'tard!
http://www.borowitzreport.com/archive_rpt.asp?rec=920
Do you have his permission to use this without attribution or are you
a thief?
And not identifying it as a spoof marks you as a fraud.
You lying, thieving fraud! Must be a Bushman.
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| User: "Riain Y. Barton" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
22 Aug 2004 12:26:30 AM |
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YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A DOLLAR OF
THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
"Michael Marxist Moore" <mmmoore@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote in message
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| MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!
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| Will Remain There Until November 3, Party Officials Confirm
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| The Democratic National Committee confirmed today that Teresa Heinz
| Kerry, wife of presidential nominee John Kerry, has been moved to a
| secure undisclosed location and will remain there until November 3,
| the day after the fall election.
|
| In a terse statement released to reporters at the party convention in
| Boston, the DNC indicated that "Mrs. Kerry has agreed with party
| officials that she could make her most valuable contributions to the
| presidential campaign from a soundproof chamber buried miles beneath
| the earth's crust."
|
| The DNC would not elaborate on when and how the outspoken Mrs. Kerry
| made her departure from Boston, but sources said yesterday that the
| she was spirited away from her hotel under cover of darkness by what
| are being described as "burly Democratic party goons."
|
| "There was some sort of struggle, a whole lot of swearing, and then
| nothing," said one witness. "I think chloroform and a tube sock may
| have played a role."
|
| Mrs. Kerry's departure from the campaign occurred just hours after she
| took great pains to explain why she told a reporter on Monday to
| "shove it."
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| "In my native Mozambique, 'shove it' is the same as 'shalom,'" she
| said. "It means hello, goodbye and peace."
|
| But when a reporter challenged this explanation, she snapped, "You can
| take a 64-oz bottle of Heinz ketchup and shove it up your *****,
| douchebag."
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| Regaining her composure, Mrs. Kerry said that in Mozambique, inviting
| someone to shove a ketchup bottle up his or her ***** was the same thing
| as saying "Have a nice day."
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| Liberals Hate America!
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| User: "Vash The Stampede" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
25 Aug 2004 10:49:09 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:26:30 +0000, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A DOLLAR OF
THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
Yeah, right. And the Ketchup Kween makes her money how?
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
LOL and I make my money off the backs of *rich* Americans. Only a fool
goes after the poor! They don't *have* any money!
"Michael Marxist Moore" <mmmoore@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote in message
news:t5k9i0d9vmuttjp60h6kqdjepkms71lago@4ax.com...
| MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!
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| Will Remain There Until November 3, Party Officials Confirm
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| The Democratic National Committee confirmed today that Teresa Heinz
| Kerry, wife of presidential nominee John Kerry, has been moved to a
| secure undisclosed location and will remain there until November 3,
| the day after the fall election.
|
| In a terse statement released to reporters at the party convention in
| Boston, the DNC indicated that "Mrs. Kerry has agreed with party
| officials that she could make her most valuable contributions to the
| presidential campaign from a soundproof chamber buried miles beneath
| the earth's crust."
|
| The DNC would not elaborate on when and how the outspoken Mrs. Kerry
| made her departure from Boston, but sources said yesterday that the
| she was spirited away from her hotel under cover of darkness by what
| are being described as "burly Democratic party goons."
|
| "There was some sort of struggle, a whole lot of swearing, and then
| nothing," said one witness. "I think chloroform and a tube sock may
| have played a role."
|
| Mrs. Kerry's departure from the campaign occurred just hours after she
| took great pains to explain why she told a reporter on Monday to
| "shove it."
|
| "In my native Mozambique, 'shove it' is the same as 'shalom,'" she
| said. "It means hello, goodbye and peace."
|
| But when a reporter challenged this explanation, she snapped, "You can
| take a 64-oz bottle of Heinz ketchup and shove it up your *****,
| douchebag."
|
| Regaining her composure, Mrs. Kerry said that in Mozambique, inviting
| someone to shove a ketchup bottle up his or her ***** was the same thing
| as saying "Have a nice day."
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| Liberals Hate America!
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
26 Aug 2004 01:35:02 AM |
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"Vash The Stampede" <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.08.26.01.45.18.373413@2am.cn...
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:26:30 +0000, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A DOLLAR
OF
THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
Yeah, right. And the Ketchup Kween makes her money how?
Honestly.
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
LOL and I make my money off the backs of *rich* Americans. Only a fool
goes after the poor! They don't *have* any money!
Funny how the lottery seems to work the other way around.
But the fact is that going after a man's wife in this obviously phony manner
only proves that there are no real issues with which to fault Kerry.
Susan
"Michael Marxist Moore" <mmmoore@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote in message
news:t5k9i0d9vmuttjp60h6kqdjepkms71lago@4ax.com...
| MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!
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| Will Remain There Until November 3, Party Officials Confirm
|
| The Democratic National Committee confirmed today that Teresa Heinz
| Kerry, wife of presidential nominee John Kerry, has been moved to a
| secure undisclosed location and will remain there until November 3,
| the day after the fall election.
|
| In a terse statement released to reporters at the party convention in
| Boston, the DNC indicated that "Mrs. Kerry has agreed with party
| officials that she could make her most valuable contributions to the
| presidential campaign from a soundproof chamber buried miles beneath
| the earth's crust."
|
| The DNC would not elaborate on when and how the outspoken Mrs. Kerry
| made her departure from Boston, but sources said yesterday that the
| she was spirited away from her hotel under cover of darkness by what
| are being described as "burly Democratic party goons."
|
| "There was some sort of struggle, a whole lot of swearing, and then
| nothing," said one witness. "I think chloroform and a tube sock may
| have played a role."
|
| Mrs. Kerry's departure from the campaign occurred just hours after she
| took great pains to explain why she told a reporter on Monday to
| "shove it."
|
| "In my native Mozambique, 'shove it' is the same as 'shalom,'" she
| said. "It means hello, goodbye and peace."
|
| But when a reporter challenged this explanation, she snapped, "You can
| take a 64-oz bottle of Heinz ketchup and shove it up your *****,
| douchebag."
|
| Regaining her composure, Mrs. Kerry said that in Mozambique, inviting
| someone to shove a ketchup bottle up his or her ***** was the same thing
| as saying "Have a nice day."
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| Liberals Hate America!
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| User: "Phil Trevorrow" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
26 Aug 2004 07:04:12 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Vash The Stampede" <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.08.26.01.45.18.373413@2am.cn...
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:26:30 +0000, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A
DOLLAR
OF
THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
Yeah, right. And the Ketchup Kween makes her money how?
Honestly.
Off shore honestly.
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
LOL and I make my money off the backs of *rich* Americans. Only a fool
goes after the poor! They don't *have* any money!
Funny how the lottery seems to work the other way around.
More like ironic.
But the fact is that going after a man's wife in this obviously phony
manner
only proves that there are no real issues with which to fault Kerry.
You mean the fact that liberals are screaming that Bush is letting companies
hire off shore employees yet the wife of the very same person who said he
will bring those jobs back to America has the vast majority of her employees
off shore is irrelevant? Isn't that a bit hypocritical?
--
"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
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| User: "Gen" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
26 Aug 2004 02:38:22 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:04:12 GMT, "Phil Trevorrow"
<philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Vash The Stampede" <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.08.26.01.45.18.373413@2am.cn...
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:26:30 +0000, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A
DOLLAR
OF
THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
Yeah, right. And the Ketchup Kween makes her money how?
Honestly.
Off shore honestly.
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
LOL and I make my money off the backs of *rich* Americans. Only a fool
goes after the poor! They don't *have* any money!
Funny how the lottery seems to work the other way around.
More like ironic.
But the fact is that going after a man's wife in this obviously phony
manner
only proves that there are no real issues with which to fault Kerry.
You mean the fact that liberals are screaming that Bush is letting companies
hire off shore employees yet the wife of the very same person who said he
will bring those jobs back to America has the vast majority of her employees
off shore is irrelevant? Isn't that a bit hypocritical?
That point I agree with. Mrs Kerry should move those jobs back to the
US. I don't know if she has that kind of control in the company or
not.
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| User: "Vash The Stampede" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
03 Sep 2004 06:55:28 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:35:02 +0000, Susan Cohen wrote:
"Vash The Stampede" <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.08.26.01.45.18.373413@2am.cn...
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:26:30 +0000, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A DOLLAR
OF
THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
Yeah, right. And the Ketchup Kween makes her money how?
Honestly.
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
LOL and I make my money off the backs of *rich* Americans. Only a fool
goes after the poor! They don't *have* any money!
Funny how the lottery seems to work the other way around.
But the fact is that going after a man's wife in this obviously phony manner
only proves that there are no real issues with which to fault Kerry.
Susan
Plenty, Susan. I'm from Mass, remember?
I only go after the 'Kween' because she *acts* like on! If she didn't
*act* like 'new Royalty' I'd ease up.
And I notice her handlers have been keeping her out of the spotlight. I
guess she's embarrassed them enough already.
And I thouroughly *enjoyed* Kerry's drunken rantings last night! And if he
*wasn't* drunk, he sure should have been.
Probably the only reason I understood him for once was because *I* was
drunk, too.
Now, about his Senate Voting Record....
"Michael Marxist Moore" <mmmoore@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote in message
news:t5k9i0d9vmuttjp60h6kqdjepkms71lago@4ax.com...
| MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!
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| Will Remain There Until November 3, Party Officials Confirm
|
| The Democratic National Committee confirmed today that Teresa Heinz
| Kerry, wife of presidential nominee John Kerry, has been moved to a
| secure undisclosed location and will remain there until November 3,
| the day after the fall election.
|
| In a terse statement released to reporters at the party convention in
| Boston, the DNC indicated that "Mrs. Kerry has agreed with party
| officials that she could make her most valuable contributions to the
| presidential campaign from a soundproof chamber buried miles beneath
| the earth's crust."
|
| The DNC would not elaborate on when and how the outspoken Mrs. Kerry
| made her departure from Boston, but sources said yesterday that the
| she was spirited away from her hotel under cover of darkness by what
| are being described as "burly Democratic party goons."
|
| "There was some sort of struggle, a whole lot of swearing, and then
| nothing," said one witness. "I think chloroform and a tube sock may
| have played a role."
|
| Mrs. Kerry's departure from the campaign occurred just hours after she
| took great pains to explain why she told a reporter on Monday to
| "shove it."
|
| "In my native Mozambique, 'shove it' is the same as 'shalom,'" she
| said. "It means hello, goodbye and peace."
|
| But when a reporter challenged this explanation, she snapped, "You can
| take a 64-oz bottle of Heinz ketchup and shove it up your *****,
| douchebag."
|
| Regaining her composure, Mrs. Kerry said that in Mozambique, inviting
| someone to shove a ketchup bottle up his or her ***** was the same thing
| as saying "Have a nice day."
|
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| Liberals Hate America!
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| User: "Mr. Video" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
26 Aug 2004 05:26:58 AM |
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Vash The Stampede <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.08.26.01.45.18.373413@2am.cn>...
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:26:30 +0000, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A DOLLAR OF
THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
Yeah, right. And the Ketchup Kween makes her money how?
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
Umm...
She has nothing to do with the company.
Quit getting your "news" from Fox "News" and Sean Innanity and do a
little research before making yourself look like a fucking idiot.
LOL and I make my money off the backs of *rich* Americans. Only a fool
goes after the poor! They don't *have* any money!
"Michael Marxist Moore" <mmmoore@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote in message
news:t5k9i0d9vmuttjp60h6kqdjepkms71lago@4ax.com...
| MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!
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| Will Remain There Until November 3, Party Officials Confirm
|
| The Democratic National Committee confirmed today that Teresa Heinz
| Kerry, wife of presidential nominee John Kerry, has been moved to a
| secure undisclosed location and will remain there until November 3,
| the day after the fall election.
|
| In a terse statement released to reporters at the party convention in
| Boston, the DNC indicated that "Mrs. Kerry has agreed with party
| officials that she could make her most valuable contributions to the
| presidential campaign from a soundproof chamber buried miles beneath
| the earth's crust."
|
| The DNC would not elaborate on when and how the outspoken Mrs. Kerry
| made her departure from Boston, but sources said yesterday that the
| she was spirited away from her hotel under cover of darkness by what
| are being described as "burly Democratic party goons."
|
| "There was some sort of struggle, a whole lot of swearing, and then
| nothing," said one witness. "I think chloroform and a tube sock may
| have played a role."
|
| Mrs. Kerry's departure from the campaign occurred just hours after she
| took great pains to explain why she told a reporter on Monday to
| "shove it."
|
| "In my native Mozambique, 'shove it' is the same as 'shalom,'" she
| said. "It means hello, goodbye and peace."
|
| But when a reporter challenged this explanation, she snapped, "You can
| take a 64-oz bottle of Heinz ketchup and shove it up your *****,
| douchebag."
|
| Regaining her composure, Mrs. Kerry said that in Mozambique, inviting
| someone to shove a ketchup bottle up his or her ***** was the same thing
| as saying "Have a nice day."
|
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| Liberals Hate America!
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| User: "Phil Trevorrow" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
26 Aug 2004 07:21:41 AM |
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"Mr. Video" <vanguard@colecovision.com> wrote in message
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Vash The Stampede <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:26:30 +0000, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A
DOLLAR OF
THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
Yeah, right. And the Ketchup Kween makes her money how?
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
Umm...
She has nothing to do with the company.
Quit getting your "news" from Fox "News" and Sean Innanity and do a
little research before making yourself look like a fucking idiot.
While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million dollars
worth of shares in Heinz and is the heir to the Heinz fortune. As a
stockholder, she has plenty of influence over the operations of Heinz. Note
that her late husband was not on the board of directors either but he still
made a ton of money from Heinz.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117678,00.html
--
"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
26 Aug 2004 10:52:06 AM |
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Here's what our founder, Henry John Heinz, believed: "To do a common thing
uncommonly well brings success."
And since 1869, our company has supported that belief. Today, H.J. Heinz
Company is one of the world's leading marketers of branded foods to retail
and foodservice channels. Heinz has number-one or number-two branded
businesses in more than 50 world markets.
Everything except that has changed and changed again through twelve-plus
decades of the H. J. Heinz Company — wave after wave of revolutions in
nutrition, agronomy, processing, distribution, marketing, packaging, sales
and earnings.
Revenues have climbed from the thousands in 1869 through the millions, the
tens and hundreds of millions, now billions. As Heinz markets have grown
from local to national to global — from one product to a dozen, made famous
through the 57 Varieties slogan at the turn of the century to several
thousand today — the idea of quality, that old-fashioned virtue now born
again in the most advanced theories of management, has been the Heinz
mainspring.
The first product was horseradish, and the glass of its bottle was clear.
There was a reason: while competitors extended their horseradish with
fillers, concealed from view in green glass jars, Founder Henry John Heinz
took his stand on quality and proudly displayed his product in transparent
bottles. See? No leaves, no wood fiber, no turnip filler.
Henry was 25. The food processing industry was even younger, and commercial
preservation in cans and bottles had yet to earn the public trust; so the
typical American diet was a dreary affair. Staples as of 1869 were limited
to bread, potatoes, root vegetables and meat — usually dried, smoked or
salted. Cucumbers and pickles were the salads of winter; grapefruit was a
distant rumor, except in Florida; tomatoes were called "love apples," an
exotic Mexican fruit. And, Henry Heinz was taking the first steps in a
journey that would help to change all that, forever.
After horseradish came pickles, sauerkraut and vinegar, delivered by
horse-drawn wagons to grocers in and around Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Processing, packing and headquarters offices shared a two-story farmhouse in
Sharpsburg, at the city's northern edge. But within five years, Heinz and
partner L. C. Noble had moved to larger quarters, on their way to becoming
one of the nation's leading producers of condiments. Heinz & Noble could
count among its assets a hundred acres of garden along the Allegheny River —
30 acres of horseradish — along with 24 horses, a dozen wagons and a vinegar
factory in St. Louis.
In the banking panic of 1875, this overextended young enterprise was forced
into bankruptcy. Heinz then discovered that the grocers he had been
supplying were unwilling to extend credit even to feed his family.
With brother John and cousin Frederick, he started over in 1875. In the
depression brought on by the banking collapse, it was a difficult first
year, but one in which a new product was introduced — tomato ketchup. Red
and green pepper sauce soon followed, then cider vinegar and apple butter,
chili sauce, mincemeat, mustard, tomato soup, olives, pickled onions,
pickled cauliflower, baked beans and the first sweet pickles ever brought to
market. The American table was brightening, along with the Heinz ledger.
As biographer Robert C. Alberts has observed, Henry Heinz had hit on two of
what he called the Important Ideas that were to shape his business from that
day on: 1) That most people are willing to let someone else take over a
share of their kitchen operations; and 2) That a pure article of superior
quality will find a ready market through its intrinsic value — if properly
packaged and promoted. Conventional wisdom now, these were bold conceptions
in their day, foreshadowing what have since become the bedrock assumptions
of modern quality control and consumer marketing.
And, there were sequels: 3) To improve the product in glass or can, you must
improve it while still in the ground; and 4) The world is our market.
In 1886, Heinz sailed with his family to England, including in his luggage a
Gladstone bag packed with "seven varieties of our finest and newest goods."
In London, he called on Fortnum & Mason, England's leading food purveyor,
whose buyer tasted and promptly accepted all seven products for
distribution.
Ten years later, the first overseas office opened near the Tower of London,
joined in 1905 by a factory in Peckham and in 1919 by a site in Harlesden
that soon became the second English plant of Heinz. Others were to follow
until Heinz became a Purveyor to the Queen and most British food shoppers
came to regard Heinz as a British company.
It was also in 1919 that Henry Heinz died of pneumonia at the age of 75. He
was succeeded by his son, Howard, who had already taken over much of the
company's operations. By this time, the younger Heinz had introduced a
regime of scientific processing and quality control into a system that
included 25 factories and 200 smaller facilities, ranging from pickle
salting stations to bottle plants and a seed farm.
Through the Howard Heinz era, as in that of his father, all growth was
internal; even overseas ventures were built from scratch. This continued to
be the policy for most of the tenure of H. J. Heinz II, who became president
in 1941. The first exception was the acquisition of a food processor in the
Netherlands in 1958, and soon the exception became the rule. In the next few
years, companies were acquired in Italy, Portugal, Mexico, and several in
the United States.
Under R. Burt Gookin, who became president in 1966, the pace of acquisitions
and growth quickened. By 1972, Heinz had reached the billion-dollar mark in
sales, and Mr. Gookin was ready to reorganize the company under an
international management team. To the new post of senior vice president for
North America and the Pacific, he named Anthony J. F. O'Reilly, then 35, who
had earned high marks as managing director of the company's United Kingdom
operations.
Dr. O'Reilly became president and CEO in 1979, launching an era in which
Heinz became a leader in the nutrition and wellness revolution. He created
major company production bases in Spain, Portugal and New Zealand and
penetrated such challenging markets as South Africa, Russia, the Czech
Republic, Hungary, South Korea, China, India, Egypt, Botswana and Zimbabwe.
William R. Johnson took the helm as President in 1996, CEO in 1998 and
Chairman in 2000. He continues Heinz's international growth strategy by
acquiring new companies in the Netherlands, Indonesia, the Philippines,
Singapore and Costa Rica. He launched growth and reorganization plans to
focus on Meal Enhancers and Meals & Snacks. The historic transaction with
Del Monte Foods is designed to make Heinz a more focused company able to
invest more effectively in its strongest brands.
H. J. Heinz Company today is an enterprise with over 110 major locations
worldwide, with leading brands on six continents. Heinz brand names — such
as Ore-Ida, Smart Ones, Bagel Bites, Plasmon, Wattie's, San Marco, Farley's,
Bio Dieterba, John West, Petit Navire, Greenseas, Classico, Wyler's, UFC,
Orlando, ABC, Honig, Hak, DeRuijter, Olivine and Pudliski — appear on
thousands of different products worldwide. Heinz also uses the famous names
Weight Watchers, Boston Market, T.G.I. Friday's, Jack Daniel's and Linda
McCartney under license.
And the major thrust of Heinz today? Today's Chairman of Heinz agrees with
the first: "I am convinced that quality and innovation are the way forward
for Heinz," Mr. Johnson tells investors. "They will enhance our performance,
expand our margins, improve our customer service, and provide Heinz
employees with a more satisfying workplace environment."
Or, as Henry John Heinz liked to put it: "To do a common thing uncommonly
well brings success."
1869 - Heinz was founded.
1876 - Heinz Tomato Ketchup was launched.
1882 - Heinz began patenting ketchup bottles
1896 - Distribution of Heinz products to London.
1898 - Heinz announces that there no condiment more universally popular than
ketchup.
By the end of the 19th Century Heinz products are sold extensively
throughout the United States, Canada, Britain and Ireland.
1907 - Heinz was used as an example of a progressive company that did not
use preservatives within its food products, primarily ketchup, when the case
for banning benzoate was debated by Congress.
1920's - 1930's
Amongst other products like baked beans and spaghetti, Heinz Tomato Ketchup
was still be imported into Britain, Canada, and Ireland, from America.
Heinz expanded its production in Britain with a 20 acre site in Harlesden,
soon producing 10,000 tons of products in its first year of operation.
Heinz was one of the most prolific advertisers in the American national
press reaching over 4.5 million homes nationwide.
1941 - In Britain, because of the war Heinz products had to rely almost
exclusively on local products. At this time Heinz Tomato Ketchup was still
be imported from America, so between 1939 to 1948 Heinz Ketchup was not able
to be sold in Britain.
1942 - In spite of the war and the shortage of ingredients, Heinz guarantees
the standard of Heinz products will not be lowered and Heinz would continue
to supply the troops with quality food.
1948 - With the war over, Heinz begins producing tomato ketchup in Britain,
at a former ammunitions factory in Standish.
1950's Heinz takes it advertising to the television screens across America.
1952 - 1953 Heinz Ideal Sauce was one of its most popular products. (no
Longer being produced)
1957 - Heinz 57 varieties celebrates the whole year with a bang!
1987 - Heinz introduces the plastic ketchup bottle.
2001 - Heinz introduced Green ketchup for a limited time only.
2003 - Heinz introduced the "Upside-Down" plastic bottle.
"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| "Mr. Video" <vanguard@colecovision.com> wrote in message
| news:2340e26a.0408260226.5cebf888@posting.google.com...
| > Vash The Stampede <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
| news:<pan.2004.08.26.01.45.18.373413@2am.cn>...
| > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:26:30 +0000, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
| > >
| > > > YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A
| DOLLAR OF
| > > > THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
| > >
| > > Yeah, right. And the Ketchup Kween makes her money how?
| > >
| > > Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
| >
| > Umm...
| >
| > She has nothing to do with the company.
| >
| > Quit getting your "news" from Fox "News" and Sean Innanity and do a
| > little research before making yourself look like a fucking idiot.
|
| While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
dollars
| worth of shares in Heinz and is the heir to the Heinz fortune. As a
| stockholder, she has plenty of influence over the operations of Heinz.
Note
| that her late husband was not on the board of directors either but he
still
| made a ton of money from Heinz.
|
| http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117678,00.html
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| --
| "The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its
just
| that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
|
| "If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
| would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
| "racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
| arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
| them." - Ann Coulter
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| User: "Jorge dubya the War Hero" |
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26 Aug 2004 11:28:23 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million dollars
worth of shares in Heinz
And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
bad, eh?
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| User: "Phil Trevorrow" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
27 Aug 2004 05:40:39 AM |
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"Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote in
message news:ep3si091vbnpmhb9h52igv3ktc9sr6mjnt@4ax.com...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
dollars
worth of shares in Heinz
And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
bad, eh?
Not at all. The point I was making and which seems to have escaped you is
that it's hypocritical to accuse Republicans of sending jobs overseas when
the Democratic candidate's wife's company does just that.
--
"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
27 Aug 2004 11:55:28 AM |
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"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote in
message news:ep3si091vbnpmhb9h52igv3ktc9sr6mjnt@4ax.com...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
dollars
worth of shares in Heinz
And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
bad, eh?
Not at all. The point I was making and which seems to have escaped you is
that it's hypocritical to accuse Republicans of sending jobs overseas when
the Democratic candidate's wife's company does just that.
Except that it's not her company, & she's not the one making government
policy.
Susan
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| User: "Phil Trevorrow" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
28 Aug 2004 09:28:06 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote in
message news:ep3si091vbnpmhb9h52igv3ktc9sr6mjnt@4ax.com...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
dollars
worth of shares in Heinz
And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
bad, eh?
Not at all. The point I was making and which seems to have escaped you
is
that it's hypocritical to accuse Republicans of sending jobs overseas
when
the Democratic candidate's wife's company does just that.
Except that it's not her company, & she's not the one making government
policy.
She owns stock in it and is making money hand over fist from it. She's also
the heir to the Heinz billions. And this topic has nothing to do with her
making government policy.
--
"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
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| User: "Riain Y. Barton" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
27 Aug 2004 03:10:46 PM |
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And that the HEINZ company has not been outsourcing jobs!
They produce American Products in America, Canadian Products in Canada,
British Products in Britain, and so on!
"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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| "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:HcEXc.3156$RQ4.458@trnddc09...
| > "Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote in
| > message news:ep3si091vbnpmhb9h52igv3ktc9sr6mjnt@4ax.com...
| >> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
| >>
| >> >While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
| > dollars
| >> >worth of shares in Heinz
| >>
| >> And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
| >>
| >> I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
| >> bad, eh?
| >
| > Not at all. The point I was making and which seems to have escaped you
is
| > that it's hypocritical to accuse Republicans of sending jobs overseas
when
| > the Democratic candidate's wife's company does just that.
|
| Except that it's not her company, & she's not the one making government
| policy.
|
| Susan
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
27 Aug 2004 04:14:30 PM |
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"Riain Y. Barton" <riain@riain.us> wrote in message
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And that the HEINZ company has not been outsourcing jobs!
They produce American Products in America, Canadian Products in Canada,
British Products in Britain, and so on!
And besides, Kerry said that he would give benefite to companies who didn't
do that, & penalties (or whatever the business term is) for those who did.
So, if they want to insist that his wife is doing it, then they have to
admit that he is scrupulously honest.
Susan
"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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| "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:HcEXc.3156$RQ4.458@trnddc09...
| > "Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote
in
| > message news:ep3si091vbnpmhb9h52igv3ktc9sr6mjnt@4ax.com...
| >> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
| >>
| >> >While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
| > dollars
| >> >worth of shares in Heinz
| >>
| >> And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
| >>
| >> I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
| >> bad, eh?
| >
| > Not at all. The point I was making and which seems to have escaped you
is
| > that it's hypocritical to accuse Republicans of sending jobs overseas
when
| > the Democratic candidate's wife's company does just that.
|
| Except that it's not her company, & she's not the one making government
| policy.
|
| Susan
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| User: "Kermit" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
27 Aug 2004 11:22:23 AM |
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"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<HcEXc.3156$RQ4.458@trnddc09>...
"Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote in
message news:ep3si091vbnpmhb9h52igv3ktc9sr6mjnt@4ax.com...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
dollars
worth of shares in Heinz
And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
bad, eh?
Not at all. The point I was making and which seems to have escaped you is
that it's hypocritical to accuse Republicans of sending jobs overseas when
the Democratic candidate's wife's company does just that.
--
"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
From:
http://www.heinzawards.net/about.asp?staticid=11
"Teresa Heinz is Chairman of the Heinz Awards Board of Directors and
wife of the late Senator John Heinz. Mrs. Heinz serves as Chairman and
CEO of the Heinz Family Foundation, as well as Chairman of the Howard
Heinz Endowment and Trustee of the Vira I. Heinz Endowment. She also
serves on the boards of numerous organizations including Environmental
Defense, the Brookings Institution, the Alliance to End Childhood Lead
Poisoning and the American Institute for Public Service (Jefferson
Awards). She has been active in the past as a board member and trustee
of schools and universities in Pittsburgh, Washington, D.C., and
elsewhere including Georgetown University, Carnegie Mellon University,
Phillips Exeter Academy and St. Paul's school."
I hadn't realized how much influence she has on the current tax
structure of the US government. How responsible is she for the current
job drain? It's not hypocritical to suggest she is innocent, even if
Bush has influence over the job losses. He is quick enough to blame
Clinton for financial problems and quick enough to take claim when
things look up. I am not sure any president has much control over the
economy.
Companies have to compete; if it were harder to profit from going
overseas or outsourcing it wouldn't be done as much. <shrug> I have no
strong opinion on this matter. Overseas job drain may be unavoidable.
How many billions has Heinz made with bidless contracts with the US
government? How many wars has Heinz helped plan?
Kermit
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| User: "Phil Trevorrow" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
28 Aug 2004 09:26:19 AM |
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"Kermit" <unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote in
message news:ep3si091vbnpmhb9h52igv3ktc9sr6mjnt@4ax.com...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
dollars
worth of shares in Heinz
And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
bad, eh?
Not at all. The point I was making and which seems to have escaped you
is
that it's hypocritical to accuse Republicans of sending jobs overseas
when
the Democratic candidate's wife's company does just that.
--
"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its
just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb,
they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still
have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
From:
http://www.heinzawards.net/about.asp?staticid=11
"Teresa Heinz is Chairman of the Heinz Awards Board of Directors and
wife of the late Senator John Heinz. Mrs. Heinz serves as Chairman and
CEO of the Heinz Family Foundation, as well as Chairman of the Howard
Heinz Endowment and Trustee of the Vira I. Heinz Endowment. She also
serves on the boards of numerous organizations including Environmental
Defense, the Brookings Institution, the Alliance to End Childhood Lead
Poisoning and the American Institute for Public Service (Jefferson
Awards). She has been active in the past as a board member and trustee
of schools and universities in Pittsburgh, Washington, D.C., and
elsewhere including Georgetown University, Carnegie Mellon University,
Phillips Exeter Academy and St. Paul's school."
I hadn't realized how much influence she has on the current tax
structure of the US government. How responsible is she for the current
job drain? It's not hypocritical to suggest she is innocent, even if
Bush has influence over the job losses. He is quick enough to blame
Clinton for financial problems and quick enough to take claim when
things look up. I am not sure any president has much control over the
economy.
The topic wasn't about how much influence Mrs. Kerry has on the tax
structure, or the current job drain. Historically, job losses follow every
recession we've ever had. Presidents can influence the economy but you are
correct in that they don't control it.
Companies have to compete; if it were harder to profit from going
overseas or outsourcing it wouldn't be done as much. <shrug> I have no
strong opinion on this matter. Overseas job drain may be unavoidable.
How many billions has Heinz made with bidless contracts with the US
government? How many wars has Heinz helped plan?
Again, that wasn't the topic of discussion. I'm not sure what your point is
on this. Clearly you think someone has made billions on bidless contracts. I
wonder who you think that could be and if you would care to provide proof of
that claim.
--
"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
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| User: "Vash The Stampede" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
28 Aug 2004 10:16:48 PM |
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|
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:26:19 +0000, Phil Trevorrow wrote:
"Kermit" <unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote in
message news:ep3si091vbnpmhb9h52igv3ktc9sr6mjnt@4ax.com...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
dollars
worth of shares in Heinz
And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
bad, eh?
Not at all. The point I was making and which seems to have escaped you
is
that it's hypocritical to accuse Republicans of sending jobs overseas
when
the Democratic candidate's wife's company does just that.
--
"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its
just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb,
they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still
have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
From:
http://www.heinzawards.net/about.asp?staticid=11
"Teresa Heinz is Chairman of the Heinz Awards Board of Directors and
wife of the late Senator John Heinz. Mrs. Heinz serves as Chairman and
CEO of the Heinz Family Foundation, as well as Chairman of the Howard
Heinz Endowment and Trustee of the Vira I. Heinz Endowment. She also
serves on the boards of numerous organizations including Environmental
Defense, the Brookings Institution, the Alliance to End Childhood Lead
Poisoning and the American Institute for Public Service (Jefferson
Awards). She has been active in the past as a board member and trustee
of schools and universities in Pittsburgh, Washington, D.C., and
elsewhere including Georgetown University, Carnegie Mellon University,
Phillips Exeter Academy and St. Paul's school."
I hadn't realized how much influence she has on the current tax
structure of the US government. How responsible is she for the current
job drain? It's not hypocritical to suggest she is innocent, even if
Bush has influence over the job losses. He is quick enough to blame
Clinton for financial problems and quick enough to take claim when
things look up. I am not sure any president has much control over the
economy.
The topic wasn't about how much influence Mrs. Kerry has on the tax
structure, or the current job drain. Historically, job losses follow every
recession we've ever had. Presidents can influence the economy but you are
correct in that they don't control it.
Exactly. Not directly. Even a statement made by a President can have
considerable effect on the markets. Policies, esp tax policies have a
direct effect, delayed but direct.
No president can create jobs. Regan's tax policies created wealth, and
wealth spreads. And I don't want to hear 'trickle down doesn't work', it
does, or it did for me, and here's how.
I worked in the 80's for a defense cfontractor, but was even more
entrenched in commercial avaiation. With the increase in military
spending, the company had to hire people. But more importantly, more money
floating around meant more people had disposable incomes. And with the
explosion of the global economy, more people were going other places (esp
Japan, at the time) for business. More people took trips, seeing the
world. All this involved aircraft For 10 years I did great, until the
Bush/Clinton recession (that's right, Bush 1 started it through taxes
*and* policies, and Clinton perpetuated it. The first Clinton scare?
Health Care. The companies *knew* they were going to be the ones footing
the bill, and everyone puilled their necks in.
People got scared, stopped flying. Aircraft orders diminished, and from a
crew of 1100 people we were down to 750 in 8 months. When I left the staff
was cut below 600, *below* where I came in. I called a girl who was there
18 months before I was to see how we had fared (she was the last hire in
the dept before me, I had taken the day off to refinance myu mortgage
while I still *had* a job...just in time) She told me she was packing her
bags, so I knew I was toast.
And with all those 'jobs' Clinton 'created', I couldn't get one. Why? Over
qualified! (and previously overpaid, too. After $17/hr, who thought I
would work for $7?). Couldn't even get work flipping burgers! Some guy
*finally* tokk pity on me and gave me a job pumping gas.
Companies have to compete; if it were harder to profit from going
overseas or outsourcing it wouldn't be done as much. <shrug> I have no
strong opinion on this matter. Overseas job drain may be unavoidable.
How many billions has Heinz made with bidless contracts with the US
government? How many wars has Heinz helped plan?
Again, that wasn't the topic of discussion. I'm not sure what your point is
on this. Clearly you think someone has made billions on bidless contracts. I
wonder who you think that could be and if you would care to provide proof of
that claim.
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
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"Vash The Stampede" <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:26:19 +0000, Phil Trevorrow wrote:
"Kermit" <unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hadn't realized how much influence she has on the current tax
structure of the US government. How responsible is she for the current
job drain? It's not hypocritical to suggest she is innocent, even if
Bush has influence over the job losses. He is quick enough to blame
Clinton for financial problems and quick enough to take claim when
things look up. I am not sure any president has much control over the
economy.
The topic wasn't about how much influence Mrs. Kerry has on the tax
structure, or the current job drain. Historically, job losses follow
every
recession we've ever had. Presidents can influence the economy but you
are
correct in that they don't control it.
Exactly. Not directly. Even a statement made by a President can have
considerable effect on the markets. Policies, esp tax policies have a
direct effect, delayed but direct.
No president can create jobs. Regan's tax policies created wealth, and
wealth spreads. And I don't want to hear 'trickle down doesn't work', it
does, or it did for me, and here's how.
I worked in the 80's for a defense cfontractor, but was even more
entrenched in commercial avaiation. With the increase in military
spending, the company had to hire people. But more importantly, more money
floating around meant more people had disposable incomes. And with the
explosion of the global economy, more people were going other places (esp
Japan, at the time) for business. More people took trips, seeing the
world. All this involved aircraft For 10 years I did great, until the
Bush/Clinton recession (that's right, Bush 1 started it through taxes
*and* policies, and Clinton perpetuated it. The first Clinton scare?
Health Care. The companies *knew* they were going to be the ones footing
the bill, and everyone puilled their necks in.
People got scared, stopped flying. Aircraft orders diminished, and from a
crew of 1100 people we were down to 750 in 8 months. When I left the staff
was cut below 600, *below* where I came in. I called a girl who was there
18 months before I was to see how we had fared (she was the last hire in
the dept before me, I had taken the day off to refinance myu mortgage
while I still *had* a job...just in time) She told me she was packing her
bags, so I knew I was toast.
And with all those 'jobs' Clinton 'created', I couldn't get one. Why? Over
qualified! (and previously overpaid, too. After $17/hr, who thought I
would work for $7?). Couldn't even get work flipping burgers! Some guy
*finally* tokk pity on me and gave me a job pumping gas.
Bushevik Troll! Lies, all lies!!!
Now Shannon doesn't have to post his tripe. Speaking of which, do a Google
search on Shannon Jacobs. 10,900 posts. All attacking anyone who disagrees
with him. He accuses us of being trolls but I only have 298. I guess that
would make him King Troll.
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"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
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| User: "Riain Y. Barton" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
27 Aug 2004 03:08:44 PM |
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Except HEINZ does not do that!
"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| "Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote in
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| > On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
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| > >While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
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| > >worth of shares in Heinz
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| > And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
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| > I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
| > bad, eh?
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| Not at all. The point I was making and which seems to have escaped you is
| that it's hypocritical to accuse Republicans of sending jobs overseas when
| the Democratic candidate's wife's company does just that.
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| that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
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| "If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
| would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
| "racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
| arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
| them." - Ann Coulter
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| User: "Riain Y. Barton" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! NEOCONS HATE AMERICANS!! |
26 Aug 2004 12:13:42 PM |
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Yes, fear Teresa, She is going to bomb the world with Heinz Tomato ketchup!
"Jorge dubya the War Hero" <I.saved.Texas@from.the.VC.AirForce> wrote in
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| On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, "Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote:
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| >While true she is not on the board of directors, she owns $4 Million
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| >worth of shares in Heinz
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| And Cheney has $8 Million worth of stock options with Halliburton.
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| I guess however bad you think Heinz-Kerry is, Cheney must be twice as
| bad, eh?
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| User: "Vash The Stampede" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
27 Aug 2004 01:22:38 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:26:58 -0700, Mr. Video wrote:
Vash The Stampede <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.08.26.01.45.18.373413@2am.cn>...
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:26:30 +0000, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A DOLLAR OF
THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
Yeah, right. And the Ketchup Kween makes her money how?
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
Umm...
She has nothing to do with the company.
And she gets *no* money from it?
No 'royalties'? No diviidends? No trust fund? No income *at* *all* from it?
Quit getting your "news" from Fox "News" and Sean Innanity and do a
little research before making yourself look like a fucking idiot.
LOL and I make my money off the backs of *rich* Americans. Only a fool
goes after the poor! They don't *have* any money!
"Michael Marxist Moore" <mmmoore@N0TSPAM.0RG> wrote in message
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| MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!!
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| Will Remain There Until November 3, Party Officials Confirm
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| The Democratic National Committee confirmed today that Teresa Heinz
| Kerry, wife of presidential nominee John Kerry, has been moved to a
| secure undisclosed location and will remain there until November 3,
| the day after the fall election.
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| In a terse statement released to reporters at the party convention in
| Boston, the DNC indicated that "Mrs. Kerry has agreed with party
| officials that she could make her most valuable contributions to the
| presidential campaign from a soundproof chamber buried miles beneath
| the earth's crust."
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| The DNC would not elaborate on when and how the outspoken Mrs. Kerry
| made her departure from Boston, but sources said yesterday that the
| she was spirited away from her hotel under cover of darkness by what
| are being described as "burly Democratic party goons."
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| "There was some sort of struggle, a whole lot of swearing, and then
| nothing," said one witness. "I think chloroform and a tube sock may
| have played a role."
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| Mrs. Kerry's departure from the campaign occurred just hours after she
| took great pains to explain why she told a reporter on Monday to
| "shove it."
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| "In my native Mozambique, 'shove it' is the same as 'shalom,'" she
| said. "It means hello, goodbye and peace."
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| But when a reporter challenged this explanation, she snapped, "You can
| take a 64-oz bottle of Heinz ketchup and shove it up your *****,
| douchebag."
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| Regaining her composure, Mrs. Kerry said that in Mozambique, inviting
| someone to shove a ketchup bottle up his or her ***** was the same thing
| as saying "Have a nice day."
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| Liberals Hate America!
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
27 Aug 2004 11:54:52 AM |
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"Vash The Stampede" <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:26:58 -0700, Mr. Video wrote:
Vash The Stampede <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
news:<pan.2004.08.26.01.45.18.373413@2am.cn>...
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:26:30 +0000, Riain Y. Barton wrote:
YOU HATE AMERICA AND SO DO ALL REPUBLICANS, UNLESS THEY CAN MAKE A
DOLLAR OF
THE BACKS OF POOR AMERICANS!
Yeah, right. And the Ketchup Kween makes her money how?
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
Umm...
She has nothing to do with the company.
And she gets *no* money from it?
No 'royalties'? No diviidends? No trust fund? No income *at* *all* from
it?
Are you seriously suggesting that getting dividends means you are
responsible for what the company does? Or are you just making a moral
statement? In which case, shall we look at Republican portfolios....?
Susan
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| User: "Phil Trevorrow" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
28 Aug 2004 09:31:26 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Vash The Stampede" <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.08.27.04.18.40.43648@2am.cn...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:26:58 -0700, Mr. Video wrote:
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
Umm...
She has nothing to do with the company.
And she gets *no* money from it?
No 'royalties'? No diviidends? No trust fund? No income *at* *all* from
it?
Are you seriously suggesting that getting dividends means you are
responsible for what the company does? Or are you just making a moral
statement? In which case, shall we look at Republican portfolios....?
Ah, but that was the whole point of this discussion. It was implied that
only Republicans are making money off of sending jobs overseas. When it was
pointed out that Democrats are enjoying the profits from it as well you
liberals tried to divert the issue by saying she doesn't make government
policies. That seems kind of disingenuous doesn't it?
--
"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
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| User: "David Galehouse" |
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
28 Aug 2004 11:36:26 AM |
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"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Vash The Stampede" <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.08.27.04.18.40.43648@2am.cn...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:26:58 -0700, Mr. Video wrote:
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
Umm...
She has nothing to do with the company.
And she gets *no* money from it?
No 'royalties'? No diviidends? No trust fund? No income *at* *all*
from
it?
Are you seriously suggesting that getting dividends means you are
responsible for what the company does? Or are you just making a moral
statement? In which case, shall we look at Republican portfolios....?
Ah, but that was the whole point of this discussion. It was implied that
only Republicans are making money off of sending jobs overseas. When it
was
pointed out that Democrats are enjoying the profits from it as well you
liberals tried to divert the issue by saying she doesn't make government
policies. That seems kind of disingenuous doesn't it?
Nope. That wasn't the point of the discussion and trying to change it after
it became clear that you were getting your stupid ***** beaten only shows what
a pathetic ***** you are. Here's some reading material. Have someone read it
to you, idiot.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
29 Aug 2004 08:39:30 AM |
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"David Galehouse" <AndyG@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Vash The Stampede" <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.08.27.04.18.40.43648@2am.cn...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:26:58 -0700, Mr. Video wrote:
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
Umm...
She has nothing to do with the company.
And she gets *no* money from it?
No 'royalties'? No diviidends? No trust fund? No income *at* *all*
from
it?
Are you seriously suggesting that getting dividends means you are
responsible for what the company does? Or are you just making a moral
statement? In which case, shall we look at Republican portfolios....?
Ah, but that was the whole point of this discussion. It was implied that
only Republicans are making money off of sending jobs overseas. When it
was
pointed out that Democrats are enjoying the profits from it as well you
liberals tried to divert the issue by saying she doesn't make government
policies. That seems kind of disingenuous doesn't it?
Nope. That wasn't the point of the discussion and trying to change it
after
it became clear that you were getting your stupid ***** beaten only shows
what
a pathetic ***** you are. Here's some reading material. Have someone read
it
to you, idiot.
Typical liberal response. Attack, name call, and use profanity against
anyone who disagrees with them. Thank you for supporting my beliefs in
liberals. But lets put that aside and perhaps you can tell me (without
insults or profanity if at all possible) how I tried to change the topic?
Now, lets go over your link which backs up my point by the way. I'm sort of
surprised you would use that link to support what I've been saying and
calling me "idiot" in the same sentence. But because I like you I'll give
you a little help. Theresa's 4% holdings have voting rights. She could vote
anytime or put up for a vote a referendum to move the jobs back to the US.
She hasn't. If Kerry were so against jobs being sent overseas, he would ask
his wife to sell her remaining 4% instead of putting the million dollar
royalty checks in the bank. Starting to get a little clearer for you yet?
--
"The trouble with our liberal friends isn't that they're ignorant; its just
that they know so much that isn't so". - Ronald Reagan
"If liberals were prevented from ever again calling Republicans dumb, they
would be robbed of half their arguments. To be sure, they would still have
"racist," "fascist," "homophobe," "ugly," and a few other highly nuanced
arguments in the quiver. But the loss of "dumb" would nearly cripple
them." - Ann Coulter
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| Title: Re: MRS KERRY MOVED TO SECURE LOCATION!! LIBERALS HATE AMERICA!! |
29 Aug 2004 09:52:27 AM |
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"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"David Galehouse" <AndyG@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Phil Trevorrow" <philtrev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Vash The Stampede" <trigun@2am.cn> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.08.27.04.18.40.43648@2am.cn...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:26:58 -0700, Mr. Video wrote:
Oh, yeah. The majority of the Heinz plants are *off* shore!
Umm...
She has nothing to do with the company.
And she gets *no* money from it?
No 'royalties'? No diviidends? No trust fund? No income *at* *all*
from
it?
Are you seriously suggesting that getting dividends means you are
responsible for what the company does? Or are you just making a
moral
statement? In which case, shall we look at Republican
portfolios....?
Ah, but that was the whole point of this discussion. It was implied
that
only Republicans are making money off of sending jobs overseas. When
it
was
pointed out that Democrats are enjoying the profits from it as well
you
liberals tried to divert the issue by saying she doesn't make
government
policies. That seems kind of disingenuous doesn't it?
Nope. That wasn't the point of the discussion and trying to change it
after
it became clear that you were getting your stupid ***** beaten only shows
what
a pathetic ***** you are. Here's some reading material. Have someone
read
it
to you, idiot.
Typical liberal response. Attack, name call, and use profanity against
anyone who disagrees with them. Thank you for supporting my beliefs in
liberals. But lets put that aside and perhaps you can tell me (without
insults or profanity if at all possible) how I tried to change the topic?
Now, lets go over your link which backs up my point by the way. I'm sort
of
surprised you would use that link to support what I've been saying and
calling me "idiot" in the same sentence. But because I like you I'll give
you a little help. Theresa's 4% holdings have voting rights. She could
vote
anytime or put up for a vote a referendum to move the jobs back to the US.
She hasn't. If Kerry were so against jobs being sent overseas, he would
ask
his wife to sell her remaining 4% instead o | | | | | | | | | |
