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"johac" |
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28 Feb 2004 04:24:23 AM |
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MT woman upset at book on horse evolution. |
The cretinists are very busy this week Now they're in Montana (again).
According to the offended parent:
"There's been lots of great scientific research done on creation ..."
Oh, yeah? May we see the data please? And in which peer reviewed
scientific journals were the results of this 'great scientific research'
published?
http://tinyurl.com/ytcny
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Smith School parent wants book removed
By LAURA TODE - IR Staff Writer - 02/25/04
A concerned parent has called into question a library book about horses
and wants it removed from an elementary school library.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
Cleasby's complaint calls for either the removal of the entire book from
the school's library or the removal of two pages - eight and nine - in
the book that describe the evolutionary process.
Cleasby said she understands that evolution is widely taught in public
schools, and said she was not opposed to her daughter being exposed to
evolution, but wanted other theories explored as well.
"It's a hypothesis - a theory - and it needs to be presented that way,"
she said.
Board policy spells out the procedure that is to be used when a parent
questions a district library book or the content of a book. It starts
with the filing of a Request for Reconsideration by a parent or
organization, followed by the appointment of a five-member review
committee by the superintendent.
The review committee is made up of parents, librarians and an
administrator. The group reviewed the parent's request and the book she
questioned last week in an initial meeting held at the Front Street
Learning Center.
The final stage of the review process is a public hearing, which is
scheduled for Friday, Feb. 27, at 3:30 p.m. Interested parties and
concerned members of the public may attend.
After the hearing, the review committee will prepare a written report to
District Superintendent Bruce Messinger, who will take into
consideration the recommendations of the committee in an ultimate
recommendation to the board of trustees. The board members will be
charged with the final decision.
"We think the process provides a good opportunity for the complainant to
voice her concerns and others to weigh in on the issue as well, through
the public hearing," Messinger said.
The review committee will consider a range of options, Messinger said.
The book could be removed from the library, or the book could remain in
the collection. The review committee could also recommend the book be
restricted to appropriate age groups.
If Cleasby disagrees with the committee's recommendations, the
superintendent's recommendation to the board or the board's final
decision, she will have the opportunity to file a written appeal. If
that happens, the board of trustees will review the complaint and the
appeal and reconsider the original decision.
The request for the removal of "Horses" from Smith School is only the
second challenge the Helena School District has seen regarding library
books or instructional materials in the past decade.
Cleasby said she brought forth the challenge to shed light on the debate
surrounding the theories of evolution and creation.
"I'm sure the school's curriculum is full of it through and through,"
she said. "And I'm sure that I can't challenge all of it, but I think
there needs to be more public awareness on the creation side. There's
been lots of great scientific research done on creation that needs to be
considered."
http://www.helenair.com/articles/2004/02/25/helena/a01022504_05.txt
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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28 Feb 2004 10:02:49 PM |
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Smith School parent wants book removed
By LAURA TODE - IR Staff Writer - 02/25/04
A concerned parent has called into question a library book about horses
and wants it removed from an elementary school library.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
Cleasby's complaint calls for either the removal of the entire book from
the school's library or the removal of two pages - eight and nine - in
the book that describe the evolutionary process.
My daughter has a copy of this book. Page 8 has a paragraph that briefly
covers the 55 million years of horse evolution. Page 9 has some cool
fossil photos of skull, toe and jaw bones.
The book doesn't ignore religion and gives a nod to Charlemagne noting
that he led over 15,000 horsemen against the Avars in Hungary in 796.
On Page 44-45 it covers the concept of the ideal Christian knight and
even mentions Richard the Lionhearted. Here's a quote from page 44,
"The ideal knight was brave, courteous, and honorable and
totally dedicated to war agaist all non-Christians."
George
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| User: "johac" |
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29 Feb 2004 01:23:34 AM |
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In article <Jvd0c.82525$4o.105569@attbi_s52>,
George Fischer <george.fischer@comcast.net> wrote:
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Smith School parent wants book removed
By LAURA TODE - IR Staff Writer - 02/25/04
A concerned parent has called into question a library book about horses
and wants it removed from an elementary school library.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
Cleasby's complaint calls for either the removal of the entire book from
the school's library or the removal of two pages - eight and nine - in
the book that describe the evolutionary process.
My daughter has a copy of this book. Page 8 has a paragraph that briefly
covers the 55 million years of horse evolution. Page 9 has some cool
fossil photos of skull, toe and jaw bones.
But facts only confuse these people.
The book doesn't ignore religion and gives a nod to Charlemagne noting
that he led over 15,000 horsemen against the Avars in Hungary in 796.
On Page 44-45 it covers the concept of the ideal Christian knight and
even mentions Richard the Lionhearted. Here's a quote from page 44,
"The ideal knight was brave, courteous, and honorable and
totally dedicated to war agaist all non-Christians."
Right. Kill as many 'heathens' as you can, rape their women, and pillage
their lands, all in the name of the Lord. Gotta love them old time
religious values.
George
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Damn Dan" |
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28 Feb 2004 04:43:48 AM |
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Cleasby's complaint calls for either the removal of the entire book from
the school's library or the removal of two pages - eight and nine - in
the book that describe the evolutionary process.
Didn't I read about something like this in 1984?
-Dan
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| User: "johac" |
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29 Feb 2004 01:44:54 AM |
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In article <Eh_%b.51490$um1.32219@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote:
Cleasby's complaint calls for either the removal of the entire book from
the school's library or the removal of two pages - eight and nine - in
the book that describe the evolutionary process.
Didn't I read about something like this in 1984?
Pages eight and nine never existed.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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01 Mar 2004 01:43:30 AM |
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In article <Eh_%b.51490$um1.32219@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Damn Dan
wrote:
Didn't I read about something like this in 1984?
"Pages eight and nine contain pictures of elephants. Pages eight
and nine have *always* contained pictures of elephants..."
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "stoney" |
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29 Feb 2004 11:41:39 AM |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:43:48 GMT, "Damn Dan"
<rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com>, Message ID:
<Eh_%b.51490$um1.32219@twister.nyroc.rr.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
Cleasby's complaint calls for either the removal of the entire book from
the school's library or the removal of two pages - eight and nine - in
the book that describe the evolutionary process.
Didn't I read about something like this in 1984?
And the Stalinist and Nazi eras.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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28 Feb 2004 04:51:17 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
--
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conceived." - Isaac Asimov
Fingerprint for PGP Keys at key server or go to
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| User: "johac" |
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29 Feb 2004 01:43:48 AM |
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In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Diederik" |
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02 Mar 2004 08:22:43 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily effective.
Diederik
Rational Hedonist #1
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: MT woman upset at book on horse evolution. |
04 Mar 2004 12:27:22 AM |
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In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
(Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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04 Mar 2004 01:38:50 AM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-77C57A.22272203032004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
diederik_b@hotmail.com (Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of
Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the
Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is
not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using
the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a
creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god
mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily
effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
Young nanny goats who have not yet known a billy goat!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: MT woman upset at book on horse evolution. |
05 Mar 2004 12:26:13 AM |
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In article <1pKdnQtNB46VQNvdRVn-tw@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-77C57A.22272203032004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
diederik_b@hotmail.com (Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of
Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the
Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is
not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using
the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a
creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god
mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily
effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
Young nanny goats who have not yet known a billy goat!
Ah! Better still!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Mar 2004 01:43:20 PM |
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 02:38:50 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net>, Message ID:
<1pKdnQtNB46VQNvdRVn-tw@comcast.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
"johac" <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-77C57A.22272203032004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
diederik_b@hotmail.com (Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of
Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the
Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is
not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using
the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a
creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god
mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily
effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
Young nanny goats who have not yet known a billy goat!
but they flocked to the hydraulic ram!
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Mar 2004 01:42:43 PM |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 22:27:22 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-77C57A.22272203032004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
diederik_b@hotmail.com (Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
Ah, so the moon got yer goat.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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06 Mar 2004 01:40:38 AM |
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In article <3l1f40tqtatdj5j3jl6cv1ocd94jdnhq51@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 22:27:22 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-77C57A.22272203032004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
diederik_b@hotmail.com (Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of
Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the
Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily
effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
Ah, so the moon got yer goat.
Baaaaaaa! But the kids aren't mine! :-)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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06 Mar 2004 10:30:37 AM |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:40:38 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-019A10.23403805032004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <3l1f40tqtatdj5j3jl6cv1ocd94jdnhq51@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 22:27:22 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-77C57A.22272203032004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
diederik_b@hotmail.com (Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of
Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the
Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily
effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
Ah, so the moon got yer goat.
Baaaaaaa! But the kids aren't mine! :-)
as they swing on your beard......:)))
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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07 Mar 2004 12:45:06 AM |
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In article <m4vj40le2gb025nsutficp3aas6uec0l6u@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:40:38 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-019A10.23403805032004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <3l1f40tqtatdj5j3jl6cv1ocd94jdnhq51@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 22:27:22 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-77C57A.22272203032004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
diederik_b@hotmail.com (Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending
Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of
Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the
Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is
not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it
makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using
the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a
creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god
mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily
effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
Ah, so the moon got yer goat.
Baaaaaaa! But the kids aren't mine! :-)
as they swing on your beard......:)))
It's a smart kid who knows his own billy goat.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "stoney" |
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07 Mar 2004 11:57:37 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:45:06 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-E63FD9.22450606032004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <m4vj40le2gb025nsutficp3aas6uec0l6u@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:40:38 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-019A10.23403805032004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <3l1f40tqtatdj5j3jl6cv1ocd94jdnhq51@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 22:27:22 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-77C57A.22272203032004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
diederik_b@hotmail.com (Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending
Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of
Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the
Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is
not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it
makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using
the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a
creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god
mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily
effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
Ah, so the moon got yer goat.
Baaaaaaa! But the kids aren't mine! :-)
as they swing on your beard......:)))
It's a smart kid who knows his own billy goat.
he said gruffly....
(note; you shot yourself in the foot. read your prior response) :)
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Diederik" |
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04 Mar 2004 07:40:27 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message news:<jhachm-77C57A.22272203032004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
diederik_b@hotmail.com (Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
What kind of work do you do in your lab? I purify goat serum to get
the antibodies of interest.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: MT woman upset at book on horse evolution. |
06 Mar 2004 01:39:13 AM |
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In article <a012326d.0403041740.44ac3be9@posting.google.com>,
(Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-77C57A.22272203032004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <a012326d.0403021822.36178e1d@posting.google.com>,
(Diederik) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-840ED8.23434828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <MPG.1aabbf6587bcbdbe989d64@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurus1@*THE_ANTI-SPAM_SHIELD*optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpresremove.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Roxanne Cleasby, a parent of an 8-year-old student attending Smith
Elementary School, filed a Request for Reconsideration of
Educational
Materials, urging the school district to remove a book from the
Smith
School library that she believes promotes evolution.
"Promotes" evolution. Sounds like marketing. Wait a minute this is
not
science but religion - thus the similarity to marketing "if it makes
you feel good buy it" is apt.
It sound like she is accusing us of doing what religions do. You know
like those scientists in their white coats who go around knocking on
people's doors, trying to convert them to Darwinism, and trying to
sell them copies of "Origin of Species".
The book, titled "Horses" by Juliet Clutton-Brock, is part of the
Eyewitness Books series and explains the origin of horses using the
theory of evolution without suggesting the possibility of a
creator.
How dare modern science neglects all mention of the fairy god mother.
May her magic wand be pointed against these evil scientists.
I know. I have to offer sacrifices to the fairy god mother every day
before I go into the lab, or none of my experiments will work. :-)
What do you use? Personally, I find chickens to be particularily
effective.
Chickens are OK, but if there's a full moon out, I find that goats work
better.
What kind of work do you do in your lab? I purify goat serum to get
the antibodies of interest.
I chemically synthesize oligionucleotides and peptides. My group is
looking at ways of improving high throughput sunthesis. Hm, I wonder if
the gods would accept a transgenic goat?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Kadaitcha Man" |
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06 Mar 2004 01:42:22 AM |
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johac wrote:
Hm, I wonder
if the gods would accept a transgenic goat?
That's discriminatory in the extreme. What about transgender goats?
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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28 Feb 2004 06:08:44 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
thought hard and said:
"It's a hypothesis - a theory - and it needs to be presented that way,"
she said.
Except that it is not.
And I suppose that Creation is not a theory?
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, and Krzysztof Penderecki are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: MT woman upset at book on horse evolution. |
29 Feb 2004 01:35:08 AM |
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In article <dbb240h6ac76hm87skhj1t8avivi79b6b2@4ax.com>,
Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
thought hard and said:
"It's a hypothesis - a theory - and it needs to be presented that way,"
she said.
Except that it is not.
In science, the term 'theory' refers to an explanation of natural
phenomena supported by verifiable facts. evolution is a theory, as well
as gravity, or electricity, or radioactive decay, etc., etc.
And I suppose that Creation is not a theory?
Creationism is not a theory because it explains nothing and is
unsupported by fact.
--
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "J.R." |
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| Title: Re: MT woman upset at book on horse evolution. |
02 Mar 2004 04:53:20 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message news:<jhachm-8B42D1.23350828022004@news-60.giganews.com>...
In article <dbb240h6ac76hm87skhj1t8avivi79b6b2@4ax.com>,
Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
thought hard and said:
"It's a hypothesis - a theory - and it needs to be presented that way,"
she said.
Except that it is not.
In science, the term 'theory' refers to an explanation of natural
phenomena supported by verifiable facts. evolution is a theory, as well
as gravity, or electricity, or radioactive decay, etc., etc.
And I suppose that Creation is not a theory?
Creationism is not a theory because it explains nothing and is
unsupported by fact.
--
creationism is just an idea and not even a good one.
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Mar 2004 10:15:45 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:08:44 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>,
Message ID: <dbb240h6ac76hm87skhj1t8avivi79b6b2@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
thought hard and said:
"It's a hypothesis - a theory - and it needs to be presented that way,"
she said.
Except that it is not.
And I suppose that Creation is not a theory?
Correct. Creationism, creation is not a theory. Such implies
manufactured.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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02 Mar 2004 04:55:42 PM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:<vh28405himejphl75bupdttir5bc287qbk@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:08:44 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>,
Message ID: <dbb240h6ac76hm87skhj1t8avivi79b6b2@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
thought hard and said:
"It's a hypothesis - a theory - and it needs to be presented that way,"
she said.
Except that it is not.
And I suppose that Creation is not a theory?
Correct. Creationism, creation is not a theory. Such implies
manufactured.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
God was created by an automatic God making machine. I wonder who created that.
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: MT woman upset at book on horse evolution. |
03 Mar 2004 07:18:28 AM |
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(J.R.) astounded us with:
news:54de13e7.0403021455.362bb47a@posting.google.com:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:<vh28405himejphl75bupdttir5bc287qbk@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:08:44 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>,
Message ID: <dbb240h6ac76hm87skhj1t8avivi79b6b2@4ax.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
thought hard and said:
"It's a hypothesis - a theory - and it needs to be presented that
way," she said.
Except that it is not.
And I suppose that Creation is not a theory?
Correct. Creationism, creation is not a theory. Such implies
manufactured.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
God was created by an automatic God making machine. I wonder who
created that.
Pffft, man of course...
--
Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.rudraigh.com/afjc/regulars.html
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
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| User: "SMChristenson" |
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29 Feb 2004 11:17:53 AM |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800, johac wrote:
"It's a hypothesis - a theory - and it needs to be presented that way,"
she said.
When she's right, she's right. Kids need to be taught what a scientific
theory _is_. As she apparently was not.
Don't you just wish Kuhn had never written "The Structure of Scientific
Revolutions"? I know he came to regret the use he saw it inappropriately
come to.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: MT woman upset at book on horse evolution. |
29 Feb 2004 10:59:41 PM |
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In article <pan.2004.02.29.17.17.53.122365@visi.com>,
SMChristenson <smchris@visi.com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:24:23 -0800, johac wrote:
"It's a hypothesis - a theory - and it needs to be presented that way,"
she said.
When she's right, she's right. Kids need to be taught what a scientific
theory _is_. As she apparently was not.
I wonder if she was taught any science.
Don't you just wish Kuhn had never written "The Structure of Scientific
Revolutions"? I know he came to regret the use he saw it inappropriately
come to.
That's the problem with postmodernism as applied to science. Argue about
it all that you want, but 2 + 2 still equals 4, no matter who did it or
when.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: MT woman upset at book on horse evolution. |
28 Feb 2004 06:29:24 AM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> astounded us with: news:jhachm-
9BC8A2.02242328022004@news-60.giganews.com:
The cretinists are very busy this week Now they're in Montana (again).
According to the offended parent:
"There's been lots of great scientific research done on creation ..."
Oh, yeah? May we see the data please? And in which peer reviewed
scientific journals were the results of this 'great scientific research'
published?
The problem here is that no one is telling morons to shut the ***** up.
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Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.rudraigh.com/afjc/regulars.html
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
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