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"IKnowHimDoYou" |
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18 Apr 2004 10:26:53 AM |
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Murder As Religion |
Murder As Religion
Would you join and belong to a religion that practiced wholesale murder?
One that actually tortured and put to death innocent men, women and
children in the name of a god? One that today would silence by death any
and all who stand in their way or disagree with them? Well, there are two
such religions who do these very things-Islam and Roman Catholisism.
Starting around 600 AD the RCC began in ernest to stamp out by torture and
death what they first labeled "persistant heretics"(read- any who protest)
because they refused to follow the deviant beliefs and pagan practices of
the "Holy Mother Church". Because the RCC was gaining power and authority
of the state government they had the might to accuse and remove any and
all who dared to oppose them.
This killing of "persistant heretics" first started with book burning of
supposed heretical writings(limit information to keep people ignorant).
Then those groups of true Christians were hunted and hounded to the death
by the new catholic temporal powers. Remnants of these true believers and
followers of Christ scattered over the world trying to escape this evil
arm of Satan seeking only to be obedient to the Lord Jesus Christ and His
Word the Bible. The RCC persecution reached as far as England, Wales,
Africa, Armenia, and Bulgaria and in many cases it was carried out by
papel armies who were rewarded by the booty stolen from their victims
after they were butchered in the name of the "Holy Roman Catholic
Church". "And Jesus wept" (John 11:35) as His own were tortured and
murdered in the most cruel manners by these pagans.
This iron hand of the RCC murdered an estimated of upward 50 million
souls(no accurate count is possible) of men, women and children over a
1200 year span. This brutal hand of the RCC is dripping with the blood of
groups called Paulicians, Arnoldists, Henricians, Cathari,
Petro-Brussians, Albigenses, Waldenses, Ana-baptists along with any who
dared disagree with them.
Are you a member of this wicked system of murder? Escape while you still
can into the arms of the Lord Jesus Christ who loves you and died for you.
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| User: "Woden" |
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| Title: Re: Murder As Religion |
18 Apr 2004 10:32:26 AM |
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(IKnowHimDoYou) honored us in alt.atheism with
the following discourse:
Murder As Religion
How many religions haven't been responsible for the murder of heretics and
non-believers?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Martin Willett" |
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| Title: Re: Murder As Religion |
18 Apr 2004 02:30:17 PM |
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IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
Murder As Religion
Would you join and belong to a religion that practiced wholesale
murder? One that actually tortured and put to death innocent men,
women and children in the name of a god? One that today would
silence by death any and all who stand in their way or disagree with
them? Well, there are two such religions who do these very
things-Islam and Roman Catholisism.
Starting around 600 AD the RCC began in ernest to stamp out by
torture and death what they first labeled "persistant
heretics"(read-
any who protest) because they refused to follow the deviant beliefs
and pagan practices of the "Holy Mother Church". Because the RCC
was
gaining power and authority of the state government they had the
might to accuse and remove any and all who dared to oppose them.
This killing of "persistant heretics" first started with book
burning
of supposed heretical writings(limit information to keep people
ignorant). Then those groups of true Christians were hunted and
hounded to the death by the new catholic temporal powers. Remnants
of
these true believers and followers of Christ scattered over the
world
trying to escape this evil arm of Satan seeking only to be obedient
to the Lord Jesus Christ and His Word the Bible. The RCC
persecution
reached as far as England, Wales, Africa, Armenia, and Bulgaria and
in many cases it was carried out by papel armies who were rewarded
by
the booty stolen from their victims after they were butchered in the
name of the "Holy Roman Catholic Church". "And Jesus wept" (John
11:35) as His own were tortured and murdered in the most cruel
manners by these pagans.
This iron hand of the RCC murdered an estimated of upward 50 million
souls(no accurate count is possible) of men, women and children over
a
1200 year span. This brutal hand of the RCC is dripping with the
blood of groups called Paulicians, Arnoldists, Henricians, Cathari,
Petro-Brussians, Albigenses, Waldenses, Ana-baptists along with any
who dared disagree with them.
Are you a member of this wicked system of murder? Escape while you
still can into the arms of the Lord Jesus Christ who loves you and
died for you.
Hang on a moment there. Let me explore the logic of this post:
1 ] Catholics murder people
2 ] The proof of this is the history of Catholics murdering people in
the past
3 ] The people the Catholics murdered were Christians outside of the
Catholic church
4 ] Therefore to avoid being murdered you should logically .....
a) stay in the Catholic church
b) destroy the Catholic church
c) leave any form of Christian church and eschew all forms of
Christian belief
or
d) join a non Catholic Christian church
Now I can think of plausible reasons to argue for options a to c
(accepting this "lesson of history" at face value) but option d is
simply illogical, it doesn't follow or make any sense.
I know looking for logic within the spewings and ravings of religious
fanatics is rather futile but surely anybody who has done ten minutes
study of formal logic would recognize that this argument was totally
unsound.
--
Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org/
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| User: "Gomez Addams" |
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| Title: Re: Murder As Religion |
18 Apr 2004 05:12:21 PM |
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"Martin Willett" <ignoredmailbox@ntlworld.com> wrote
Hang on a moment there. Let me explore the logic of this post:
< GO FOR IT- IF YOU CAN.>
1 ] Catholics murder people
2 ] The proof of this is the history of Catholics murdering people in
the past
3 ] The people the Catholics murdered were Christians outside of the
Catholic church
4 ] Therefore to avoid being murdered you should logically .....
a) stay in the Catholic church
b) destroy the Catholic church
c) leave any form of Christian church and eschew all forms of
Christian belief
or
d) join a non Catholic Christian church
Now I can think of plausible reasons to argue for options a to c
(accepting this "lesson of history" at face value) but option d is
simply illogical, it doesn't follow or make any sense.
WHAT???????????? HOW MUCH TRAINING IN LOGIC DID YOU DAY YOU HAD?????
A. Staying in the RCC is not an option for Christians who understand the
Bible. You must not understand it EITHER.
B. We don't need to destroy the RCC; Christ will do that at His Second
Coming.
C. This is throwing out the baby with the bathwater; the RCC =has=
apostasized from the truth in many areas, but they do hold many of the core
tenets of Christianity. The fact that the RCC is all fouled up is no reason
to assume all Christian churches are.
D. This is the only option that =does= make any sense.
a) Follow the Bible; get into a good Non-RCC.
b) Leave the destruction of the RCC to God.
c) Don't abandon Christianity because of the few bad apples in the
barrel marked RCC.
d) Get into a good Bible following church that is not filled with
Idolatry and heresy like the RCC.
Methinks you are the one who has everything bass ackwards. Thou knowest
not thy donkey from a cave.
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Gomez Addams, CEO, Addams Industries Unltd.
Man-eating Tigers Exterminated, Wine Tasted,
Looney Detection, Bridges Burned, Money Buried.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Murder As Religion |
19 Apr 2004 11:16:48 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:12:21 +0000 in episode
<93Dgc.31$gH6.26@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> we saw our hero "Gomez
Addams" <not@good.address>:
C. This is throwing out the baby with the bathwater; the RCC =has=
apostasized from the truth in many areas,
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You people are always saying that about each other...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Murder As Religion |
20 Apr 2004 02:06:31 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:16:48 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:12:21 +0000 in episode
<93Dgc.31$gH6.26@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> we saw our hero "Gomez
Addams" <not@good.address>:
C. This is throwing out the baby with the bathwater; the RCC =has=
apostasized from the truth in many areas,
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You people are always saying that about each other...
All making the unjustified assumption that they have the truth in the
first place.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Murder As Religion |
18 Apr 2004 04:24:00 PM |
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In article <IKnowHim-1804040826530001@pm8-29.kalama.com>,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
Murder As Religion
Would you join and belong to a religion that practiced wholesale murder?
One that actually tortured and put to death innocent men, women and
children in the name of a god? One that today would silence by death any
and all who stand in their way or disagree with them? Well, there are two
such religions who do these very things-Islam and Roman Catholisism.
Point some of those fingers at yourself, *****:
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/faithdeath.html
Death by faith. Just what the "great physician" ordered.
Now stay the ***** away from alt.atheism.
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Murder As Religion |
18 Apr 2004 01:36:20 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach IKnowHimDoYou:
Murder As Religion
Didn't you just post this crap a few days ago?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
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Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day.
Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish.
--Timothy Jones
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