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13 Jan 2006 04:26:36 PM |
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Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay' |
Ah, the religion of peace - or more appropriately the religion of
*****. But is it simply misunderstood, I mean after all it seems they
simply want to kill us to save us. Certainly targeting video shops and
wine sellers makes a lot of sense for these are the fount of all evil
as we know it.
Of course articles like this upset lefties along with other retards
and progressives because they show our peaceful, gibbering Muslim
friends in such an unflattering light. They quickly follow up with the
zombie like mantra that every religion/group has its bad apple. Of
course as we all know a few bad apples will ruin the entire crateful
if allowed to...
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200601%5CCUL20060113c.html
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
By Mark Mayne
CNSNews.com Correspondent
January 13, 2006
London (CNSNews.com) - The prosecution in the U.K. trial of Muslim
cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri said Friday he preached that killing
non-Muslims was justified, even if there was no reason for it.
"Killing an adulterer, even if he is a Muslim is okay. Killing a
Kaffir (infidel) who is fighting you is okay. Killing a Kaffir for any
reason you can say it is okay even if there is no reason for it," the
jury heard Hamza say in a video of his September 1999 sermon, entitled
"Adherence to Islam in the Western World."
In it, Hamza argued that Islamic beliefs should be spread with the
help of the sword. "Dawa (propagation of Islam through word and
action) needs a sword next to it and also needs effort," the alleged
race-hate cleric said in the video.
Hamza added that those selling alcohol should be persuaded to come to
the mosque. "Make sure that the person who gave him the licence for
that wine shop doesn't exist anymore on the Earth. Finish him up. Give
him Dawa. If he doesn't respect Dawa, kill him," he said.
On Thursday, the jury heard Hamza's voice for the first time, in a
video in which he told his followers "to bleed the enemy" as part of
the struggle to set up a global Islamic state.
The two-hour video, recorded in late 1997 or early 1998, showed Hamza
speaking below a banner which read "Al Jihad" next to the words
Palestine, Bosnia, Kashmir, Egypt and Afghanistan.
Hamza told his supporters that the fight to establish a global
Khilafah (Islamic state) would be a "long bloody way" and divided into
phases. The first, he said, was known as "the needle of bleeding the
enemy."
"We ask Muslims to do that, to be capable to bleed the enemies of
Allah anywhere, by any means," Hamza said. "You can't do it by nuclear
weapon. You do it by the kitchen knife, no other solution. You cannot
do it by chemical weapons. You have to do it by mice poison."
"Imagine you have only one small knife ... you have to stab him here
and there until he bleeds to death, until he dies," the video showed
Hamza saying.
According to Hamza's speech, such a fight should continue "so on and
so forth, until you see the Khilafah sitting in the White House ruling
from there."
The jury also heard the cleric dismiss Britain as a "toilet" and
describe brothels, courts, banks that charge interest, video shops and
wine sellers as being targets worthy of attack by Islamic militants.
Hamza also claimed western democracies are in a "freefall" because
they had given too much personal freedom to their citizens. "It is
falling down, it is crumbling now," he said.
"The society is crumbling because of democracy - because it gives
freedoms to the silly people who do not know how to use freedoms and
they end up destroying themselves, their family, their country, their
morals, their even humanity," said Hamza.
Hamza , 47, denied 15 charges, including having a document "useful" to
a terrorist and soliciting people to murder non-Muslims.
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18 Jan 2006 05:50:18 PM |
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Islam can be appeased. It is very simple. By simply
making known the author of the Qur'an original intent.
The Qur'an is not only about religion, it is
also a book on political philosophy.
It deals with the union of Christ and state, the divine Law and its
role
in a nation, taxes, prisoners of war, stateman, international
relations and treaties...
But unfortuantely all these were buried by the propagandists
willing to perpetuate obscurantism more than engage themselves
in an intellectual discourse.They want people to keep kissing
a tribal stone and circle around an empty cube. After
they can still lie that Mohammad also did the same.
Look what is going on in their Medrassa or quranic schools,
nothing but senseless memorisation of chapters going like
this:"Have you considered Al Houza, Al Manath and the third?
These are names you gave them ..."and blah blah blah
How good is this method of learning for the young mind?
The propagandists know that no man in his right mind
would go and kiss a metereolit at MECCA If the
real meaning of their Scriptures were dug out. And that is
not good for their business and national pride.
This is why the first propagandists had commissioned
a faussaire like Ibn Hisham to backwrite the Genesis
of Islam. Everything turned around Mohammad and nothing
is said why he was ever dubbed Mohammad. This is
called misrepresentation. It is like putting the cart before
the horse. If you put the cart before the horse, don't be surprised
If the result is en-dessous of what was expected.
The main issue is that Mohammad was not Mohammad by birth,
He was dubbed Mohammad by virtue of his Apostolic office, ruler
of the Arabs
and the similitude of this office with the Messiah/Christ, the king
of the Jews. Once this is left out, the whole thing islamic
is non-intelligible and messy.
So yes Islam can be not, appeased but restored and be led in peace
Michael Wallace wrote:
Ah, the religion of peace - or more appropriately the religion of
*****. But is it simply misunderstood, I mean after all it seems they
simply want to kill us to save us. Certainly targeting video shops and
wine sellers makes a lot of sense for these are the fount of all evil
as we know it.
Of course articles like this upset lefties along with other retards
and progressives because they show our peaceful, gibbering Muslim
friends in such an unflattering light. They quickly follow up with the
zombie like mantra that every religion/group has its bad apple. Of
course as we all know a few bad apples will ruin the entire crateful
if allowed to...
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200601%5CCUL20060113c.html
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
By Mark Mayne
CNSNews.com Correspondent
January 13, 2006
London (CNSNews.com) - The prosecution in the U.K. trial of Muslim
cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri said Friday he preached that killing
non-Muslims was justified, even if there was no reason for it.
"Killing an adulterer, even if he is a Muslim is okay. Killing a
Kaffir (infidel) who is fighting you is okay. Killing a Kaffir for any
reason you can say it is okay even if there is no reason for it," the
jury heard Hamza say in a video of his September 1999 sermon, entitled
"Adherence to Islam in the Western World."
In it, Hamza argued that Islamic beliefs should be spread with the
help of the sword. "Dawa (propagation of Islam through word and
action) needs a sword next to it and also needs effort," the alleged
race-hate cleric said in the video.
Hamza added that those selling alcohol should be persuaded to come to
the mosque. "Make sure that the person who gave him the licence for
that wine shop doesn't exist anymore on the Earth. Finish him up. Give
him Dawa. If he doesn't respect Dawa, kill him," he said.
On Thursday, the jury heard Hamza's voice for the first time, in a
video in which he told his followers "to bleed the enemy" as part of
the struggle to set up a global Islamic state.
The two-hour video, recorded in late 1997 or early 1998, showed Hamza
speaking below a banner which read "Al Jihad" next to the words
Palestine, Bosnia, Kashmir, Egypt and Afghanistan.
Hamza told his supporters that the fight to establish a global
Khilafah (Islamic state) would be a "long bloody way" and divided into
phases. The first, he said, was known as "the needle of bleeding the
enemy."
"We ask Muslims to do that, to be capable to bleed the enemies of
Allah anywhere, by any means," Hamza said. "You can't do it by nuclear
weapon. You do it by the kitchen knife, no other solution. You cannot
do it by chemical weapons. You have to do it by mice poison."
"Imagine you have only one small knife ... you have to stab him here
and there until he bleeds to death, until he dies," the video showed
Hamza saying.
According to Hamza's speech, such a fight should continue "so on and
so forth, until you see the Khilafah sitting in the White House ruling
from there."
The jury also heard the cleric dismiss Britain as a "toilet" and
describe brothels, courts, banks that charge interest, video shops and
wine sellers as being targets worthy of attack by Islamic militants.
Hamza also claimed western democracies are in a "freefall" because
they had given too much personal freedom to their citizens. "It is
falling down, it is crumbling now," he said.
"The society is crumbling because of democracy - because it gives
freedoms to the silly people who do not know how to use freedoms and
they end up destroying themselves, their family, their country, their
morals, their even humanity," said Hamza.
Hamza , 47, denied 15 charges, including having a document "useful" to
a terrorist and soliciting people to murder non-Muslims.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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15 Jan 2006 03:25:35 PM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
Ah, the religion of peace - or more appropriately the religion of
*****. But is it simply misunderstood, I mean after all it seems they
simply want to kill us to save us. Certainly targeting video shops and
wine sellers makes a lot of sense for these are the fount of all evil
as we know it.
Of course articles like this upset lefties along with other retards
and progressives because they show our peaceful, gibbering Muslim
friends in such an unflattering light. They quickly follow up with the
zombie like mantra that every religion/group has its bad apple. Of
course as we all know a few bad apples will ruin the entire crateful
if allowed to...
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200601%5CCUL20060113c.html
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
By Mark Mayne
CNSNews.com Correspondent
January 13, 2006
London (CNSNews.com) - The prosecution in the U.K. trial of Muslim
cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri said Friday he preached that killing
non-Muslims was justified, even if there was no reason for it.
I have $100 that says Hamza is on the payroll of the Saudi government to preach the Saudi state
religion of Wahhabism. Inevitably, all extremist imams turn out to be Wahhabis.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
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| User: "stoney" |
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16 Jan 2006 01:28:59 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:25:35 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote in alt.atheism
Michael Wallace wrote:
Ah, the religion of peace - or more appropriately the religion of
*****. But is it simply misunderstood, I mean after all it seems they
simply want to kill us to save us. Certainly targeting video shops and
wine sellers makes a lot of sense for these are the fount of all evil
as we know it.
Of course articles like this upset lefties along with other retards
and progressives because they show our peaceful, gibbering Muslim
friends in such an unflattering light. They quickly follow up with the
zombie like mantra that every religion/group has its bad apple. Of
course as we all know a few bad apples will ruin the entire crateful
if allowed to...
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200601%5CCUL20060113c.html
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
By Mark Mayne
CNSNews.com Correspondent
January 13, 2006
London (CNSNews.com) - The prosecution in the U.K. trial of Muslim
cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri said Friday he preached that killing
non-Muslims was justified, even if there was no reason for it.
I have $100 that says Hamza is on the payroll of the Saudi government to preach the Saudi state
religion of Wahhabism. Inevitably, all extremist imams turn out to be Wahhabis.
Sucker bet.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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16 Jan 2006 07:55:18 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:28:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
}On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:25:35 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
}wrote in alt.atheism
}
}>Michael Wallace wrote:
}>
}>> Ah, the religion of peace - or more appropriately the religion of
}>> *****. But is it simply misunderstood, I mean after all it seems they
}>> simply want to kill us to save us. Certainly targeting video shops and
}>> wine sellers makes a lot of sense for these are the fount of all evil
}>> as we know it.
}>>
}>> Of course articles like this upset lefties along with other retards
}>> and progressives because they show our peaceful, gibbering Muslim
}>> friends in such an unflattering light. They quickly follow up with the
}>> zombie like mantra that every religion/group has its bad apple. Of
}>> course as we all know a few bad apples will ruin the entire crateful
}>> if allowed to...
}>>
}>> http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200601%5CCUL20060113c.html
}>>
}>> Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
}>> By Mark Mayne
}>> CNSNews.com Correspondent
}>> January 13, 2006
}>>
}>> London (CNSNews.com) - The prosecution in the U.K. trial of Muslim
}>> cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri said Friday he preached that killing
}>> non-Muslims was justified, even if there was no reason for it.
}>
}>I have $100 that says Hamza is on the payroll of the Saudi government to preach the Saudi state
}>religion of Wahhabism. Inevitably, all extremist imams turn out to be Wahhabis.
}
}Sucker bet.
Yeah, probably a Christian in ragheads clothing...
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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16 Jan 2006 07:00:14 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:25:35 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
}Michael Wallace wrote:
}
}> Ah, the religion of peace - or more appropriately the religion of
}> *****. But is it simply misunderstood, I mean after all it seems they
}> simply want to kill us to save us. Certainly targeting video shops and
}> wine sellers makes a lot of sense for these are the fount of all evil
}> as we know it.
}>
}> Of course articles like this upset lefties along with other retards
}> and progressives because they show our peaceful, gibbering Muslim
}> friends in such an unflattering light. They quickly follow up with the
}> zombie like mantra that every religion/group has its bad apple. Of
}> course as we all know a few bad apples will ruin the entire crateful
}> if allowed to...
}>
}> http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200601%5CCUL20060113c.html
}>
}> Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
}> By Mark Mayne
}> CNSNews.com Correspondent
}> January 13, 2006
}>
}> London (CNSNews.com) - The prosecution in the U.K. trial of Muslim
}> cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri said Friday he preached that killing
}> non-Muslims was justified, even if there was no reason for it.
}
}I have $100 that says Hamza is on the payroll of the Saudi government to preach the Saudi state
}religion of Wahhabism. Inevitably, all extremist imams turn out to be Wahhabis.
That seems to be the general case although the Iranian Shiites breed a
pretty poisenous version of the religion as well.
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13 Jan 2006 10:20:40 PM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
Ah, the religion of peace - or more appropriately the religion of
*****. But is it simply misunderstood.
snipage
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
By Mark Mayne
CNSNews.com Correspondent
January 13, 2006
Christian Cleric Says we should assassinate the elected president
of a democracy.'
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/robertson.chavez.1534/index.html
"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we
really ought to go ahead and do it," (Pat) Robertson told viewers
on his "The 700 Club" show Monday. "It's a whole lot cheaper
than starting a war."
Larry
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| User: "Viator" |
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13 Jan 2006 06:51:08 PM |
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Notice also that muslims are now teaming up
with the KKK in the USA. Rightwing goons and
non-liberal muslims have a lot in common,
as I'm sure you know personally...
Michael Wallace wrote:
Ah, the religion of peace - or more appropriately the religion of
*****. But is it simply misunderstood, I mean after all it seems they
simply want to kill us to save us. Certainly targeting video shops and
wine sellers makes a lot of sense for these are the fount of all evil
as we know it.
Of course articles like this upset lefties along with other retards
and progressives because they show our peaceful, gibbering Muslim
friends in such an unflattering light. They quickly follow up with the
zombie like mantra that every religion/group has its bad apple. Of
course as we all know a few bad apples will ruin the entire crateful
if allowed to...
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200601%5CCUL20060113c.html
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
By Mark Mayne
CNSNews.com Correspondent
January 13, 2006
London (CNSNews.com) - The prosecution in the U.K. trial of Muslim
cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri said Friday he preached that killing
non-Muslims was justified, even if there was no reason for it.
"Killing an adulterer, even if he is a Muslim is okay. Killing a
Kaffir (infidel) who is fighting you is okay. Killing a Kaffir for any
reason you can say it is okay even if there is no reason for it," the
jury heard Hamza say in a video of his September 1999 sermon, entitled
"Adherence to Islam in the Western World."
In it, Hamza argued that Islamic beliefs should be spread with the
help of the sword. "Dawa (propagation of Islam through word and
action) needs a sword next to it and also needs effort," the alleged
race-hate cleric said in the video.
Hamza added that those selling alcohol should be persuaded to come to
the mosque. "Make sure that the person who gave him the licence for
that wine shop doesn't exist anymore on the Earth. Finish him up. Give
him Dawa. If he doesn't respect Dawa, kill him," he said.
On Thursday, the jury heard Hamza's voice for the first time, in a
video in which he told his followers "to bleed the enemy" as part of
the struggle to set up a global Islamic state.
The two-hour video, recorded in late 1997 or early 1998, showed Hamza
speaking below a banner which read "Al Jihad" next to the words
Palestine, Bosnia, Kashmir, Egypt and Afghanistan.
Hamza told his supporters that the fight to establish a global
Khilafah (Islamic state) would be a "long bloody way" and divided into
phases. The first, he said, was known as "the needle of bleeding the
enemy."
"We ask Muslims to do that, to be capable to bleed the enemies of
Allah anywhere, by any means," Hamza said. "You can't do it by nuclear
weapon. You do it by the kitchen knife, no other solution. You cannot
do it by chemical weapons. You have to do it by mice poison."
"Imagine you have only one small knife ... you have to stab him here
and there until he bleeds to death, until he dies," the video showed
Hamza saying.
According to Hamza's speech, such a fight should continue "so on and
so forth, until you see the Khilafah sitting in the White House ruling
from there."
The jury also heard the cleric dismiss Britain as a "toilet" and
describe brothels, courts, banks that charge interest, video shops and
wine sellers as being targets worthy of attack by Islamic militants.
Hamza also claimed western democracies are in a "freefall" because
they had given too much personal freedom to their citizens. "It is
falling down, it is crumbling now," he said.
"The society is crumbling because of democracy - because it gives
freedoms to the silly people who do not know how to use freedoms and
they end up destroying themselves, their family, their country, their
morals, their even humanity," said Hamza.
Hamza , 47, denied 15 charges, including having a document "useful" to
a terrorist and soliciting people to murder non-Muslims.
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| User: "Stan Pierce" |
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13 Jan 2006 10:41:43 PM |
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"Viator" <dsakjfldsakjfl@lkjdslfkdalkfjd.com> wrote in message
news:g5OdnQCHZpoA1lXenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
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"The society is crumbling because of democracy - because it gives
freedoms to the silly people who do not know how to use freedoms and
they end up destroying themselves, their family, their country, their
morals, their even humanity," said Hamza.
Hamza , 47, denied 15 charges, including having a document "useful" to
a terrorist and soliciting people to murder non-Muslims.
He actually has weighed up correctly what Democracy has done to Western people
since the 1960s. The result of Plenty and mental anarchy. Being told so by a
Muslim though is a bit rich.
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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14 Jan 2006 01:19:27 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:41:43 GMT, "Stan Pierce"
<ecreipt@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
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}"Viator" <dsakjfldsakjfl@lkjdslfkdalkfjd.com> wrote in message
}news:g5OdnQCHZpoA1lXenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
}
}(snipped)
}>> "The society is crumbling because of democracy - because it gives
}>> freedoms to the silly people who do not know how to use freedoms and
}>> they end up destroying themselves, their family, their country, their
}>> morals, their even humanity," said Hamza.
}>>
}>> Hamza , 47, denied 15 charges, including having a document "useful" to
}>> a terrorist and soliciting people to murder non-Muslims.
}
}He actually has weighed up correctly what Democracy has done to Western people
}since the 1960s. The result of Plenty and mental anarchy. Being told so by a
}Muslim though is a bit rich.
}
I've always said the Muslims have a lot of things right, about their
culture and ours - however, as their morals, values and culture are
alien and anathema to ours (and most others) we are set on a collision
course.
I in fact think that they have an all too good a chance of winning,
they have conviction in their beliefs, they don't brook idiotic
notions like same sex marriage, feminism, abortion on demand,
political correctness and the myriad of other idiotic diversions we
now busy ourselves with. In fact their way of dealing with those that
disagree with them is to kill them, a no nonsense way of dealing with
their opposition.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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14 Jan 2006 02:26:50 AM |
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*I in fact think that they have an all too good a chance of winning,
*they have conviction in their beliefs, they don't brook idiotic
*notions like same sex marriage, feminism, abortion on demand,
*political correctness and the myriad of other idiotic diversions we
*now busy ourselves with. In fact their way of dealing with those that
*disagree with them is to kill them, a no nonsense way of dealing with
*their opposition.
Feminism is wrong? "abortion on demand" (RRR translation for
"pro-choice) is wrong?
You're showing your true colors. Which are not much different from the
muslims extremists'.
BTW, I love your rant on public beheadings in a previous posting. Are
you an American? If yes, you're probably familiar with the concept of
death penalty. Which puts the USA in the company of such great
democracies like Yemen, Saudi Arabia and other countries you seem to
despise...
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Jan 2006 01:46:03 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:19:27 +1100, Michael Wallace
<carl@partsdirectaust.com.au> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:41:43 GMT, "Stan Pierce"
<ecreipt@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
}
}"Viator" <dsakjfldsakjfl@lkjdslfkdalkfjd.com> wrote in message
}news:g5OdnQCHZpoA1lXenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
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}>> "The society is crumbling because of democracy - because it gives
}>> freedoms to the silly people who do not know how to use freedoms and
}>> they end up destroying themselves, their family, their country, their
}>> morals, their even humanity," said Hamza.
}>>
}>> Hamza , 47, denied 15 charges, including having a document "useful" to
}>> a terrorist and soliciting people to murder non-Muslims.
}
}He actually has weighed up correctly what Democracy has done to Western people
}since the 1960s. The result of Plenty and mental anarchy. Being told so by a
}Muslim though is a bit rich.
}
I've always said the Muslims have a lot of things right, about their
culture and ours - however, as their morals, values and culture are
alien and anathema to ours (and most others) we are set on a collision
course.
I in fact think that they have an all too good a chance of winning,
they have conviction in their beliefs, they don't brook idiotic
notions like same sex marriage, feminism, abortion on demand,
political correctness and the myriad of other idiotic diversions we
now busy ourselves with. In fact their way of dealing with those that
disagree with them is to kill them, a no nonsense way of dealing with
their opposition.
Ah, the insecure and cowardly droolings of the clueless. I'm so sorry
equal treatment, personal responsibility, and such, terrify you to no
end. You'd do well in 'garden spots' of the world like Afghanistan as
freedom is absent. I'm sure a whole host of people would be more than
happy to chip in for your one-way plane ticket.
As for idioctic diversions-superstition is a big one in the undeducated
and fearful areas of the world like the former USA and much of the
Middle East.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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"Viator" <dsakjfldsakjfl@lkjdslfkdalkfjd.com> wrote in message
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Notice also that muslims are now teaming up
with the KKK in the USA. Rightwing goons and
non-liberal muslims have a lot in common,
as I'm sure you know personally...
Michael Wallace wrote:
Ah, the religion of peace - or more appropriately the religion of
*****. But is it simply misunderstood, I mean after all it seems they
simply want to kill us to save us. Certainly targeting video shops and
wine sellers makes a lot of sense for these are the fount of all evil
as we know it.
Of course articles like this upset lefties along with other retards
and progressives because they show our peaceful, gibbering Muslim
friends in such an unflattering light. They quickly follow up with the
zombie like mantra that every religion/group has its bad apple. Of
course as we all know a few bad apples will ruin the entire crateful
if allowed to...
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=%5CCulture%5Carchive%5C200601%5CCUL20060113c.html
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
By Mark Mayne
CNSNews.com Correspondent
January 13, 2006
London (CNSNews.com) - The prosecution in the U.K. trial of Muslim
cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri said Friday he preached that killing
non-Muslims was justified, even if there was no reason for it.
"Killing an adulterer, even if he is a Muslim is okay. Killing a
Kaffir (infidel) who is fighting you is okay. Killing a Kaffir for any
reason you can say it is okay even if there is no reason for it," the
jury heard Hamza say in a video of his September 1999 sermon, entitled
"Adherence to Islam in the Western World."
In it, Hamza argued that Islamic beliefs should be spread with the
help of the sword. "Dawa (propagation of Islam through word and
action) needs a sword next to it and also needs effort," the alleged
race-hate cleric said in the video.
Hamza added that those selling alcohol should be persuaded to come to
the mosque. "Make sure that the person who gave him the licence for
that wine shop doesn't exist anymore on the Earth. Finish him up. Give
him Dawa. If he doesn't respect Dawa, kill him," he said.
On Thursday, the jury heard Hamza's voice for the first time, in a
video in which he told his followers "to bleed the enemy" as part of
the struggle to set up a global Islamic state.
The two-hour video, recorded in late 1997 or early 1998, showed Hamza
speaking below a banner which read "Al Jihad" next to the words
Palestine, Bosnia, Kashmir, Egypt and Afghanistan.
Hamza told his supporters that the fight to establish a global
Khilafah (Islamic state) would be a "long bloody way" and divided into
phases. The first, he said, was known as "the needle of bleeding the
enemy."
"We ask Muslims to do that, to be capable to bleed the enemies of
Allah anywhere, by any means," Hamza said. "You can't do it by nuclear
weapon. You do it by the kitchen knife, no other solution. You cannot
do it by chemical weapons. You have to do it by mice poison."
"Imagine you have only one small knife ... you have to stab him here
and there until he bleeds to death, until he dies," the video showed
Hamza saying.
According to Hamza's speech, such a fight should continue "so on and
so forth, until you see the Khilafah sitting in the White House ruling
from there."
The jury also heard the cleric dismiss Britain as a "toilet" and
describe brothels, courts, banks that charge interest, video shops and
wine sellers as being targets worthy of attack by Islamic militants.
Hamza also claimed western democracies are in a "freefall" because
they had given too much personal freedom to their citizens. "It is
falling down, it is crumbling now," he said. "The society is crumbling
because of democracy - because it gives
freedoms to the silly people who do not know how to use freedoms and
they end up destroying themselves, their family, their country, their
morals, their even humanity," said Hamza.
Hamza , 47, denied 15 charges, including having a document "useful" to
a terrorist and soliciting people to murder non-Muslims.
And they come out with this rubbish as well.
An Egyptian cleric's controversial fatwa claiming that nudity during sexual
intercourse invalidates a marriage has uncovered a rift among Islamic
scholars.
http://smh.com.au/news/unusual-tales/nudity-invalidates-marriage/2006/01/09/1136655112299.html
I'm convinced humanity, in a number of different forms, is spread out all
over the universe. We are just a tiny fraction of what exist.
(A.J. Gevaerd Brazils leading UFOlogist)
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14 Jan 2006 12:18:35 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Lozza (lozza92@hotmail.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:
And they come out with this rubbish as well.
An Egyptian cleric's controversial fatwa claiming that nudity during
sexual intercourse invalidates a marriage has uncovered a rift among
Islamic scholars.
I figure that non-nudity during sexual intercourse is challenging, also
kinky.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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14 Jan 2006 12:13:13 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very same
statement.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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14 Jan 2006 01:48:08 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:13:13 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very same
statement.
While many more say; "That's *different*."
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Arthur Brain" |
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14 Jan 2006 04:55:43 PM |
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stoney wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:13:13 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very same
statement.
While many more say; "That's *different*."
Well it *is* different.
Muslim clerics preach murder.
Christian clerics do not preach murder.
I wonder if you spotted that difference?
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| User: "stoney" |
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15 Jan 2006 11:56:34 AM |
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On 14 Jan 2006 14:55:43 -0800, "Arthur Brain"
<arthur_brain1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in alt.atheism
stoney wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:13:13 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very same
statement.
While many more say; "That's *different*."
Well it *is* different.
Only via the name of the superstition.
Muslim clerics preach murder.
Nope. They're following Allah's instructions.
Christian clerics do not preach murder.
They do, and even partake in the activity.
I wonder if you spotted that difference?
Yes, I'm aware one's called Christianity and the other is called Islam.
Same 'God' though.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Bill" |
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15 Jan 2006 01:42:11 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:j03ls1hqovm4fr64a4vphirar91vo0a0ok@4ax.com...
On 14 Jan 2006 14:55:43 -0800, "Arthur Brain"
<arthur_brain1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in alt.atheism
stoney wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:13:13 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very
same
statement.
While many more say; "That's *different*."
Well it *is* different.
Only via the name of the superstition.
Muslim clerics preach murder.
Nope. They're following Allah's instructions.
Christian clerics do not preach murder.
They do, and even partake in the activity.
I wonder if you spotted that difference?
Yes, I'm aware one's called Christianity and the other is called Islam.
Same 'God' though.
Every religion, over the centuries, have declared their religion to be the
true
religion and their more fanatical followers have killed others in the name
of THEIR god.
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15 Jan 2006 05:08:20 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Bill (wmech@bellsouth.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
Every religion, over the centuries, have declared their religion to be
the true
religion and their more fanatical followers have killed others in the
name of THEIR god.
My god has a bigger ***** than your god.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "stoney" |
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16 Jan 2006 01:28:33 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:08:20 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Bill (wmech@bellsouth.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
Every religion, over the centuries, have declared their religion to be
the true
religion and their more fanatical followers have killed others in the
name of THEIR god.
My god has a bigger ***** than your god.
Nah. *Is* a bigger ***** than your god.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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14 Jan 2006 06:38:35 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Arthur Brain
(arthur_brain1@yahoo.co.uk) made the light shine upon us with this:
stoney wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:13:13 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with
this:
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this
very same statement.
While many more say; "That's *different*."
Well it *is* different.
Muslim clerics preach murder.
Christian clerics do not preach murder.
I wonder if you spotted that difference?
http://reandev.com/taliban/
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "Michael Wallace" |
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14 Jan 2006 04:43:43 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:13:13 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
}Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}
}> Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
}
}Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very same
}statement.
No doubt, but how often do Christians (let alone Christian leaders)
come out and say this sort of thing and how often do they put it into
practice - killing and murdering indiscriminately?
If any Christian leader came out and advocated that sort of thing not
only would he be roundly condemned and ostracised by other Christians
but people would be falling over themselves apologising to Muslims and
whatnot. Notice how these people are never ostracised or condemned by
their communities. Oh I forgot, like most apologists you have you head
thrust too deeply in the sand, or elsewhere...
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19 Jan 2006 10:50:41 AM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:13:13 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
}Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}
}> Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
}
}Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very same
}statement.
No doubt, but how often do Christians (let alone Christian leaders)
come out and say this sort of thing and how often do they put it into
practice - killing and murdering indiscriminately?
If any Christian leader came out and advocated that sort of thing not
only would he be roundly condemned and ostracised by other Christians
but people would be falling over themselves apologising to Muslims and
whatnot. Notice how these people are never ostracised or condemned by
their communities. Oh I forgot, like most apologists you have you head
thrust too deeply in the sand, or elsewhere...
So how come Adolf Bush and Benito Blair are still in office?
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19 Jan 2006 04:05:57 PM |
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On 19 Jan 2006 08:50:41 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
}
}Michael Wallace wrote:
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:13:13 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
}> wrote:
}>
}> }Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}> }(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}> }
}> }> Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
}> }
}> }Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very same
}> }statement.
}>
}> No doubt, but how often do Christians (let alone Christian leaders)
}> come out and say this sort of thing and how often do they put it into
}> practice - killing and murdering indiscriminately?
}>
}> If any Christian leader came out and advocated that sort of thing not
}> only would he be roundly condemned and ostracised by other Christians
}> but people would be falling over themselves apologising to Muslims and
}> whatnot. Notice how these people are never ostracised or condemned by
}> their communities. Oh I forgot, like most apologists you have you head
}> thrust too deeply in the sand, or elsewhere...
}
}So how come Adolf Bush and Benito Blair are still in office?
Where did they say anything like that?
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14 Jan 2006 12:39:29 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:13:13 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
}Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}
}> Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
}
}Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this
very same }statement.
No doubt, but how often do Christians (let alone Christian leaders)
come out and say this sort of thing and how often do they put it into
practice - killing and murdering indiscriminately?
If any Christian leader came out and advocated that sort of thing not
only would he be roundly condemned and ostracised by other Christians
but people would be falling over themselves apologising to Muslims and
whatnot. Notice how these people are never ostracised or condemned by
their communities. Oh I forgot, like most apologists you have you head
thrust too deeply in the sand, or elsewhere...
Google "Pat Robertson". Or better yet,
http://reandev.com/taliban/
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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16 Jan 2006 06:56:41 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:39:29 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
}Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}
}> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:13:13 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
}> wrote:
}>
}> }Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}> }(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}> }
}> }> Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
}> }
}> }Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this
}> very same }statement.
}>
}> No doubt, but how often do Christians (let alone Christian leaders)
}> come out and say this sort of thing and how often do they put it into
}> practice - killing and murdering indiscriminately?
}>
}> If any Christian leader came out and advocated that sort of thing not
}> only would he be roundly condemned and ostracised by other Christians
}> but people would be falling over themselves apologising to Muslims and
}> whatnot. Notice how these people are never ostracised or condemned by
}> their communities. Oh I forgot, like most apologists you have you head
}> thrust too deeply in the sand, or elsewhere...
}>
}
}Google "Pat Robertson". Or better yet,
}http://reandev.com/taliban/
So who are saying its okay to kill non-Christians and aren't some
obscure kook?
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14 Jan 2006 12:27:44 AM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very same
statement.
Does it really? Where does it say that?
JC
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14 Jan 2006 12:49:16 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet John Cawston
(rewarewa@ihug.co.nz) made the light shine upon us with this:
Uncle Vic wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very
same statement.
Does it really? Where does it say that?
Believers in "other gods" can be seen as non-believers, since
Christianity teaches there is but ONE god.
Exodus 22:20
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be
utterly destroyed.
Deuteronomy
13:6
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or
the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice
thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast
not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
13:7
Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto
thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the
other end of the earth;
13:8
Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall
thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal
him:
13:9
But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put
him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
13:10
And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought
to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the
land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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14 Jan 2006 04:46:04 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:49:16 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
}Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet John Cawston
}(rewarewa@ihug.co.nz) made the light shine upon us with this:
}
}> Uncle Vic wrote:
}>
}>>Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}>>(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}>>
}>>
}>>
}>>>Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
}>>>
}>>>
}>>
}>>Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very
}>>same statement.
}>>
}>>
}>
}> Does it really? Where does it say that?
}>
}
}Believers in "other gods" can be seen as non-believers, since
}Christianity teaches there is but ONE god.
}
}Exodus 22:20
}He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be
}utterly destroyed.
}
}Deuteronomy
}13:6
}If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or
}the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice
}thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast
}not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
}
}13:7
}Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto
}thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the
}other end of the earth;
}
}13:8
}Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall
}thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal
}him:
}
}13:9
}But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put
}him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
}
}13:10
}And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought
}to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the
}land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Yes, yes, therefore when Muslims cut off the head of non-Muslim we
should quietly accept it like sheep (after all the Bible says it too)
baaaah...
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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14 Jan 2006 12:32:20 PM |
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Michael Wallace wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:49:16 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
}Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet John Cawston
}(rewarewa@ihug.co.nz) made the light shine upon us with this:
}
}> Uncle Vic wrote:
}>
}>>Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Wallace
}>>(carl@partsdirectaust.com.au) made the light shine upon us with this:
}>>
}>>
}>>
}>>>Muslim Cleric Says Killing Unbelievers Is 'Okay'
}>>>
}>>>
}>>
}>>Too many people don't realize that the Christian Bible makes this very
}>>same statement.
}>>
}>>
}>
}> Does it really? Where does it say that?
}>
}
}Believers in "other gods" can be seen as non-believers, since
}Christianity teaches there is but ONE god.
}
}Exodus 22:20
}He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be
}utterly destroyed.
}
}Deuteronomy
}13:6
}If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or
}the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice
}thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast
}not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
}
}13:7
}Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto
}thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the
}other end of the earth;
}
}13:8
}Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall
}thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal
}him:
}
}13:9
}But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put
}him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
}
}13:10
}And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought
}to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the
}land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Yes, yes, therefore when Muslims cut off the head of non-Muslim we
should quietly accept it like sheep (after all the Bible says it too)
baaaah...
Don't be stupid. Of course it's a heinous crime. Of course it should be
condemned. What Vic is pointing out is that Christians have no moral
high ground. When Christianity plays a major political role, history
shows they're no better than the Muslims. Thank God (if you'll forgive
the expression) for secularism.
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