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User: "Fred Stone"
Date: 06 Sep 2007 07:08:41 PM
Object: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews
And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI
http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”
Happily, they shot their own video to document the occasion.
I’m interested to hear what the diversity czars and the risk-averse
university bureaucrats have to say about this kind of identitarian
political activism — not because I’m particularly bothered by it (the
video shows the MSA for the repressive ideologues and wannabe zealous
thugs they are, and frankly, I find it refreshing to see such free
speech aired on a university campus for a change) — but rather because a
university-sanctioned group is performing such confrontational activism
on a university campus, where “hate” is purportedly disallowed.
This puts diversity advocates and university administrators in quite a
bind, I should think. Because to “tolerate” the political activism of
the MSA, the university must simultaneously allow for “hatred” against
women and Jews (the latter not really much of a problem, of course —
provided the wretched Zionists don’t threaten to sue). Unless, that is,
one is able to alter what constitutes “hate” by simultaneously altering
the feminist narrative to conclude that Muslim women who “Americanize”
are somehow traitors to their own cultural foundationalism, and so
shouldn’t be granted the protections of American women who are treated
as kitchen and laundry room chattel. Which argument, here, would
manifest itself as nothing much more than deafening silence from the
Women’s Studies Department.
Sadly, none of this anti-intellectual two-stepping is at all implausible
(or even unlikely) — particularly when one is forced by one’s
progressivism to navigate through the minefield that identity politics
and multiculturalism combine to create once protected groups are pitted
against one another.
Of course, simply by posting the video, Charles at LGF sets himself up
as a convenient (and potentially diversionary) scapegoat. He will be
accused of “hate” — for precisely the same reason that progressives can
rationalize their refusal to publish Danish Mohammed cartoons, or Opus
comic strips: the simple fact of airing criticism of Muslim ideologues
is itself an offense against today’s Orwellian idea of “tolerance,” even
in cases where the ideologues themselves produced the material being
criticized.
In this case, the contortions of university logic would likely go
something like this: the MSA is engaging in protected political speech,
and so can confront others students, film those confrontations, and
present it for consumption, even if the purpose is to recruit new
ideologues for further harrassment.
However, the moment control over the context is wrested away by someone
like Charles at LGF, Muslims are being unfairly targeted as objects of
hate, and the criticism implicit in the re-contexualized airing of the
video (on a site known for its criticism of Islamic fundamentalism)
marks it as a performance of that hate, and so — insofar as such an
airing can now be re-framed as “intolerant” — is no longer protected
speech.
Or, to put such contortions into their most surreal formulation
(inexorable, given the structure of progressive thinking): this video,
shot by the MSA, is, once it is shown by someone the MSA would consider
inauthentic, a hate crime against Muslims.
Which will not stand! — given that adepts of identity politics and
modern progressivism proclaim themselves “intolerant of intolerance.”
Up is down. Black is white. Balki is that other guy — the short nebishy
one with the curly hair.
In the service of pragmatism, the university might — if the proper
pressure is applied — voice its displeasure over the way the MSA is
conducting its activism, even as it simultaneously mouths predictable
claims to champion free speech.
But those who have been paying attention — or who aren’t committed to an
intentional double standard that they recognize, but that they cynically
ignore — know in their guts that had this show of political speech been,
say, an “affirmative action bake sale” put on by college Republicans, or
an anti-gay protest put on by the Campus Crusade for Christ, concerns
about free speech would be less than forthcoming.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
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User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 01:22:45 PM
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A3CD3A0D95Dfreddybear@216.151.153.66...

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
"Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio"

Fred, you're a fucking idiot.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
.

User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 06 Sep 2007 10:43:17 PM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI
http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”

Wow Fred, you're really nutso.
I mean, this is real mouth-breathing stuff.
---
Merlyn LeRoy
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 07:56:23 AM
Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e1i6lqmq7a26d@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.

Said your prayers to Mecca today?

I mean, this is real mouth-breathing stuff.

So I take it that you approve of harrassing women for not following the
dress code?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
.
User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 10:06:35 AM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e1i6lqmq7a26d@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.

Said your prayers to Mecca today?

Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?
And you constantly ignore Bush's real infringements on liberty,
while hysterically pointing at -- a Muslim student group?!

I mean, this is real mouth-breathing stuff.

So I take it that you approve of harrassing women for not following the
dress code?

Did you WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO?
Of course not; you just mindlessly parrot rightwing paranoia.
Watch the video, and point out exactly what constitutes legal
harassment, fuckhead. There is none.
---
Merlyn LeRoy
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 10:20:29 AM
Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e2q7rlc504f95@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e1i6lqmq7a26d@corp.supernews.com:


Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.


Said your prayers to Mecca today?


Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?

How does "interviewing" someone make it any less "harassment"?

And you constantly ignore Bush's real infringements on liberty,
while hysterically pointing at -- a Muslim student group?!

You excuse Muslim extremists because of some fantasy you have about
Bush?

I mean, this is real mouth-breathing stuff.


So I take it that you approve of harrassing women for not following
the dress code?


Did you WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO?

Yes, Brian, I watched the video. I take it that you approve of badgering
muslim women who don't follow the strict dress code. And of jew-baiting.

Of course not; you just mindlessly parrot rightwing paranoia.

Watch the video, and point out exactly what constitutes legal
harassment, fuckhead. There is none.

You have very low standards, Brian. Just because somebody holds a camera
doesn't make everything they do legitimate "journalism".
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
.
User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 10:35:07 AM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e2q7rlc504f95@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e1i6lqmq7a26d@corp.supernews.com:


Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.


Said your prayers to Mecca today?


Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?

How does "interviewing" someone make it any less "harassment"?

Hey fuckhead, POINT OUT THE HARASSMENT.
QUOTE what was said that constitutes legal harassment, fuckhead.
Or cite timestamps in the video where his actions constitutes
legal harassment, fuckhead. Like 2:13-2:18

And you constantly ignore Bush's real infringements on liberty,
while hysterically pointing at -- a Muslim student group?!

You excuse Muslim extremists because of some fantasy you have about
Bush?

No, you hysterically point at student groups instead of actual
infringements by the Bush administration.

I mean, this is real mouth-breathing stuff.


So I take it that you approve of harrassing women for not following
the dress code?


Did you WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO?

Yes, Brian, I watched the video. I take it that you approve of badgering
muslim women who don't follow the strict dress code. And of jew-baiting.

WHERE IS THE HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD?

Of course not; you just mindlessly parrot rightwing paranoia.

Watch the video, and point out exactly what constitutes legal
harassment, fuckhead. There is none.

You have very low standards, Brian. Just because somebody holds a camera
doesn't make everything they do legitimate "journalism".

WHERE IS THE HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD?
I didn't SAY if I thought it was legitimate journalism or not.
I'm asking you WHERE IS THE HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD?
I'M doing far worse to you RIGHT NOW, so why aren't you whining
that I'M harasssing YOU, fuckhead?
Is it because women are so delicate in your world that they
can't be asked questions?
---
Merlyn LeRoy
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 11:51:22 AM
Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e2q7rlc504f95@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e1i6lqmq7a26d@corp.supernews.com:


Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University
of Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.


Said your prayers to Mecca today?


Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?


How does "interviewing" someone make it any less "harassment"?


Hey fuckhead, POINT OUT THE HARASSMENT.

Two lines above this one.

QUOTE what was said that constitutes legal harassment, fuckhead.

Or cite timestamps in the video where his actions constitutes
legal harassment, fuckhead. Like 2:13-2:18

And you constantly ignore Bush's real infringements on liberty,
while hysterically pointing at -- a Muslim student group?!


You excuse Muslim extremists because of some fantasy you have about
Bush?


No, you hysterically point at student groups instead of actual
infringements by the Bush administration.

I mean, this is real mouth-breathing stuff.


So I take it that you approve of harrassing women for not following
the dress code?


Did you WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO?


Yes, Brian, I watched the video. I take it that you approve of
badgering muslim women who don't follow the strict dress code. And of
jew-baiting.


WHERE IS THE HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD?

Of course not; you just mindlessly parrot rightwing paranoia.

Watch the video, and point out exactly what constitutes legal
harassment, fuckhead. There is none.


You have very low standards, Brian. Just because somebody holds a
camera doesn't make everything they do legitimate "journalism".


WHERE IS THE HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD?

Two lines above this one.

I didn't SAY if I thought it was legitimate journalism or not.

I'm asking you WHERE IS THE HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD?

Two lines above this one.

I'M doing far worse to you RIGHT NOW, so why aren't you whining
that I'M harasssing YOU, fuckhead?

I'm not whining, *****.

Is it because women are so delicate in your world that they
can't be asked questions?

Is it because you don't believe that "asking questions" can be
"harassment", Brian?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
.
User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 12:15:19 PM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e2rtb9dttie38@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e2q7rlc504f95@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e1i6lqmq7a26d@corp.supernews.com:


Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University
of Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.


Said your prayers to Mecca today?


Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?


How does "interviewing" someone make it any less "harassment"?


Hey fuckhead, POINT OUT THE HARASSMENT.

Two lines above this one.

No, fuckhead, WHAT PART IS THE HARASSMENT?
Asking someone questions, even annoying questions, isn't
harassment, fuckhead.
QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS FROM THE VIDEO THAT CONSTITUTES LEGAL HARASSMENT,
FUCKHEAD!

QUOTE what was said that constitutes legal harassment, fuckhead.

Or cite timestamps in the video where his actions constitutes
legal harassment, fuckhead. Like 2:13-2:18

And you constantly ignore Bush's real infringements on liberty,
while hysterically pointing at -- a Muslim student group?!


You excuse Muslim extremists because of some fantasy you have about
Bush?


No, you hysterically point at student groups instead of actual
infringements by the Bush administration.

I mean, this is real mouth-breathing stuff.


So I take it that you approve of harrassing women for not following
the dress code?


Did you WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO?


Yes, Brian, I watched the video. I take it that you approve of
badgering muslim women who don't follow the strict dress code. And of
jew-baiting.


WHERE IS THE HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD?

Of course not; you just mindlessly parrot rightwing paranoia.

Watch the video, and point out exactly what constitutes legal
harassment, fuckhead. There is none.


You have very low standards, Brian. Just because somebody holds a
camera doesn't make everything they do legitimate "journalism".


WHERE IS THE HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD?

Two lines above this one.

I didn't SAY if I thought it was legitimate journalism or not.

I'm asking you WHERE IS THE HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD?

Two lines above this one.

I'M doing far worse to you RIGHT NOW, so why aren't you whining
that I'M harasssing YOU, fuckhead?

I'm not whining, *****.

Is it because women are so delicate in your world that they
can't be asked questions?

Is it because you don't believe that "asking questions" can be
"harassment", Brian?

It CAN be, but you, fuckhead, are merely asserting so.
You have yet to quote what was said that constitutes "harassment".
Fuckhead.
Now Fred, in your usual crybaby way, just keep avoiding a
real answer and say it's "two lines above", which is just
the same crap you gave before.
C'mon, you spineless coward, QUOTE EXACTLY WHAT WAS SAID
IN THE VIDEO THAT CONSTITUTES LEGAL HARASSMENT.
---
Merlyn LeRoy
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 01:13:45 PM
Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e31p7tjljd5f3@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e2rtb9dttie38@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e2q7rlc504f95@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e1i6lqmq7a26d@corp.supernews.com:


Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at
University of Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.


Said your prayers to Mecca today?


Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?


How does "interviewing" someone make it any less "harassment"?


Hey fuckhead, POINT OUT THE HARASSMENT.


Two lines above this one.


No, fuckhead, WHAT PART IS THE HARASSMENT?

Asking someone questions, even annoying questions, isn't
harassment, fuckhead.

No, of *course* not. It's not *possible* to harass somebody when you've
got a camera in your hands, is it, Brian? Reporters *NEVER* harass
anybody, do they? "Journalism" can *NEVER* be harassment, can it, Brian?

QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS FROM THE VIDEO THAT CONSTITUTES LEGAL
HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD!

I don't feel like it. I feel like watching you have a meltdown instead.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
.
User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 01:23:32 PM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e31p7tjljd5f3@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e2q7rlc504f95@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e1i6lqmq7a26d@corp.supernews.com:


Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at
University of Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.


Said your prayers to Mecca today?


Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?


How does "interviewing" someone make it any less "harassment"?


Hey fuckhead, POINT OUT THE HARASSMENT.


Two lines above this one.


No, fuckhead, WHAT PART IS THE HARASSMENT?

Asking someone questions, even annoying questions, isn't
harassment, fuckhead.

No, of *course* not. It's not *possible* to harass somebody when you've
got a camera in your hands, is it, Brian?

HEY, YOU FUCKHEADED LIAR!
I HAVE EVEN SAID IT ***IS*** POSSIBLE TO HARASS SOMEONE WHILE
ASKING THEM QUESTIONS!
BUT YOU HAVEN'T BEGUN TO SHOW THAT, IN **THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE**,
THAT ANY HARASSMENT TOOK PLACE, YOU FUCKHEADED LYING IDIOT!

Reporters *NEVER* harass
anybody, do they? "Journalism" can *NEVER* be harassment, can it, Brian?

HEY, YOU FUCKHEADED LIAR!
HEY, YOU FUCKHEADED LIAR!
I HAVE EVEN SAID IT ***IS*** POSSIBLE TO HARASS SOMEONE WHILE
ASKING THEM QUESTIONS!
BUT YOU HAVEN'T BEGUN TO SHOW THAT, IN **THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE**,
THAT ANY HARASSMENT TOOK PLACE, YOU FUCKHEADED LYING IDIOT!

QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS FROM THE VIDEO THAT CONSTITUTES LEGAL
HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD!

I don't feel like it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
What a fuckheaded idiot you are.
Oh, there's "harassment" somewhere in the video, you just
can't be bothered to point it out.
But you CAN be bothered to CLAIM it over and over and over.
What a rightwing loon you are.
---
Merlyn LeRoy
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 08 Sep 2007 09:28:16 AM
Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at
University of Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.


Said your prayers to Mecca today?


Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?


How does "interviewing" someone make it any less "harassment"?


Hey fuckhead, POINT OUT THE HARASSMENT.


Two lines above this one.


No, fuckhead, WHAT PART IS THE HARASSMENT?

Asking someone questions, even annoying questions, isn't
harassment, fuckhead.


No, of *course* not. It's not *possible* to harass somebody when
you've got a camera in your hands, is it, Brian?



HEY, YOU FUCKHEADED LIAR!


I HAVE EVEN SAID IT ***IS*** POSSIBLE TO HARASS SOMEONE WHILE
ASKING THEM QUESTIONS!

BUT YOU HAVEN'T BEGUN TO SHOW THAT, IN **THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE**,
THAT ANY HARASSMENT TOOK PLACE, YOU FUCKHEADED LYING IDIOT!

I posted the video, Brian. I'm not going to argue with you about your
stupid opinion.

Reporters *NEVER* harass
anybody, do they? "Journalism" can *NEVER* be harassment, can it,
Brian?


HEY, YOU FUCKHEADED LIAR!
HEY, YOU FUCKHEADED LIAR!

I HAVE EVEN SAID IT ***IS*** POSSIBLE TO HARASS SOMEONE WHILE
ASKING THEM QUESTIONS!

BUT YOU HAVEN'T BEGUN TO SHOW THAT, IN **THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE**,
THAT ANY HARASSMENT TOOK PLACE, YOU FUCKHEADED LYING IDIOT!


QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS FROM THE VIDEO THAT CONSTITUTES LEGAL
HARASSMENT, FUCKHEAD!


I don't feel like it.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

What a fuckheaded idiot you are.

Oh, there's "harassment" somewhere in the video, you just
can't be bothered to point it out.

But you CAN be bothered to CLAIM it over and over and over.

What a rightwing loon you are.

Oh, Brian, you're so entertaining when you get hysterical.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe
an immutable personal characteristic must dictate – without exception –
the ideological and political state of a person’s mind.”
.
User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 08 Sep 2007 02:36:16 PM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e35p4q4i4e106@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e31p7tjljd5f3@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e2q7rlc504f95@corp.supernews.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e1i6lqmq7a26d@corp.supernews.com:


Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at
University of Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.


Said your prayers to Mecca today?


Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?


How does "interviewing" someone make it any less "harassment"?


Hey fuckhead, POINT OUT THE HARASSMENT.


Two lines above this one.


No, fuckhead, WHAT PART IS THE HARASSMENT?

Asking someone questions, even annoying questions, isn't
harassment, fuckhead.


No, of *course* not. It's not *possible* to harass somebody when
you've got a camera in your hands, is it, Brian?



HEY, YOU FUCKHEADED LIAR!


I HAVE EVEN SAID IT ***IS*** POSSIBLE TO HARASS SOMEONE WHILE
ASKING THEM QUESTIONS!

BUT YOU HAVEN'T BEGUN TO SHOW THAT, IN **THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE**,
THAT ANY HARASSMENT TOOK PLACE, YOU FUCKHEADED LYING IDIOT!

I posted the video, Brian. I'm not going to argue with you about your
stupid opinion.

No, you're going to continue in your pathetic attempts to LIE
about my opinion, like your incredibly stupid and inept attempt
to change my statement that there is no harassment in that
particular video, to your idiotic twisting that I'm claiming it
isn't possible to harass someone if you're holding a camera.
Because you're a mouth-breathing Republicant who can't
win an argument, so you try to lie your way out.
You're a complete fucking tool.
And you have yet to point out any harassment taking place in that video.
Because there is none.
---
Merlyn LeRoy
.







User: "Sasha"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 10:34:28 AM
On Sep 7, 11:20 am, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:

Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?


How does "interviewing" someone make it any less "harassment"?

Because it's an interview, you mindless retard.

You excuse Muslim extremists because of some fantasy you have about
Bush?

No, he's just pointing out what a terrorist and traitor Bush is.

Yes, Brian, I watched the video.

No you didn't, you fucking dirty liar.


You have very low standards, Brian. Just because somebody holds a camera
doesn't make everything they do legitimate "journalism".

Just like how a filthy, lying Republican sitting in the Oval Office
doesn't make him a "president".
.


User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 10:16:51 AM
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:06:35 -0000, Brian Westley <westley@visi.com>
wrote:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:13e1i6lqmq7a26d@corp.supernews.com:


Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> writes:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”


Wow Fred, you're really nutso.


Said your prayers to Mecca today?


Hey fuckhead, how is interviewing someone "harassment"?

In Chicken Fred's world, nothing resembles reality.

And you constantly ignore Bush's real infringements on liberty,
while hysterically pointing at -- a Muslim student group?!

I mean, this is real mouth-breathing stuff.


So I take it that you approve of harrassing women for not following the
dress code?


Did you WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO?

Of course not; you just mindlessly parrot rightwing paranoia.

Watch the video, and point out exactly what constitutes legal
harassment, fuckhead. There is none.

---
Merlyn LeRoy

--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
.




User: "Kate "

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 06 Sep 2007 10:25:01 PM
On 07 Sep 2007 00:08:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”

Happily, they shot their own video to document the occasion.

I’m interested to hear what the diversity czars and the risk-averse
university bureaucrats have to say about this kind of identitarian
political activism — not because I’m particularly bothered by it (the
video shows the MSA for the repressive ideologues and wannabe zealous
thugs they are, and frankly, I find it refreshing to see such free
speech aired on a university campus for a change) — but rather because a
university-sanctioned group is performing such confrontational activism
on a university campus, where “hate” is purportedly disallowed.

This puts diversity advocates and university administrators in quite a
bind, I should think. Because to “tolerate” the political activism of
the MSA, the university must simultaneously allow for “hatred” against
women and Jews (the latter not really much of a problem, of course —
provided the wretched Zionists don’t threaten to sue). Unless, that is,
one is able to alter what constitutes “hate” by simultaneously altering
the feminist narrative to conclude that Muslim women who “Americanize”
are somehow traitors to their own cultural foundationalism, and so
shouldn’t be granted the protections of American women who are treated
as kitchen and laundry room chattel. Which argument, here, would
manifest itself as nothing much more than deafening silence from the
Women’s Studies Department.

Sadly, none of this anti-intellectual two-stepping is at all implausible
(or even unlikely) — particularly when one is forced by one’s
progressivism to navigate through the minefield that identity politics
and multiculturalism combine to create once protected groups are pitted
against one another.

Of course, simply by posting the video, Charles at LGF sets himself up
as a convenient (and potentially diversionary) scapegoat. He will be
accused of “hate” — for precisely the same reason that progressives can
rationalize their refusal to publish Danish Mohammed cartoons, or Opus
comic strips: the simple fact of airing criticism of Muslim ideologues
is itself an offense against today’s Orwellian idea of “tolerance,” even
in cases where the ideologues themselves produced the material being
criticized.

In this case, the contortions of university logic would likely go
something like this: the MSA is engaging in protected political speech,
and so can confront others students, film those confrontations, and
present it for consumption, even if the purpose is to recruit new
ideologues for further harrassment.

However, the moment control over the context is wrested away by someone
like Charles at LGF, Muslims are being unfairly targeted as objects of
hate, and the criticism implicit in the re-contexualized airing of the
video (on a site known for its criticism of Islamic fundamentalism)
marks it as a performance of that hate, and so — insofar as such an
airing can now be re-framed as “intolerant” — is no longer protected
speech.

Or, to put such contortions into their most surreal formulation
(inexorable, given the structure of progressive thinking): this video,
shot by the MSA, is, once it is shown by someone the MSA would consider
inauthentic, a hate crime against Muslims.

Which will not stand! — given that adepts of identity politics and
modern progressivism proclaim themselves “intolerant of intolerance.”

Up is down. Black is white. Balki is that other guy — the short nebishy
one with the curly hair.

In the service of pragmatism, the university might — if the proper
pressure is applied — voice its displeasure over the way the MSA is
conducting its activism, even as it simultaneously mouths predictable
claims to champion free speech.

But those who have been paying attention — or who aren’t committed to an
intentional double standard that they recognize, but that they cynically
ignore — know in their guts that had this show of political speech been,
say, an “affirmative action bake sale” put on by college Republicans, or
an anti-gay protest put on by the Campus Crusade for Christ, concerns
about free speech would be less than forthcoming.

Uh Fred. Right wingers have a very long history of targeting women,
jews gays and blacks. Not to mention italians, irish, polish russian
and members of any religion that are not the exact same as theirs.
What are exactly you advocating doing to muslims for being a member of
a group in which some members abuse others? Are you ready to receive
the same treatment?
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 07:54:40 AM
(Kate ) wrote in
news:470cc32c.858529453@news-west.newscene.com:

On 07 Sep 2007 00:08:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”

Happily, they shot their own video to document the occasion.

I’m interested to hear what the diversity czars and the risk-averse
university bureaucrats have to say about this kind of identitarian
political activism — not because I’m particularly bothered by it (the
video shows the MSA for the repressive ideologues and wannabe zealous
thugs they are, and frankly, I find it refreshing to see such free
speech aired on a university campus for a change) — but rather because
a university-sanctioned group is performing such confrontational
activism on a university campus, where “hate” is purportedly
disallowed.

This puts diversity advocates and university administrators in quite a
bind, I should think. Because to “tolerate” the political activism of
the MSA, the university must simultaneously allow for “hatred” against
women and Jews (the latter not really much of a problem, of course —
provided the wretched Zionists don’t threaten to sue). Unless, that
is, one is able to alter what constitutes “hate” by simultaneously
altering the feminist narrative to conclude that Muslim women who
“Americanize” are somehow traitors to their own cultural
foundationalism, and so shouldn’t be granted the protections of
American women who are treated as kitchen and laundry room chattel.
Which argument, here, would manifest itself as nothing much more than
deafening silence from the Women’s Studies Department.

Sadly, none of this anti-intellectual two-stepping is at all
implausible (or even unlikely) — particularly when one is forced by
one’s progressivism to navigate through the minefield that identity
politics and multiculturalism combine to create once protected groups
are pitted against one another.

Of course, simply by posting the video, Charles at LGF sets himself up
as a convenient (and potentially diversionary) scapegoat. He will be
accused of “hate” — for precisely the same reason that progressives
can rationalize their refusal to publish Danish Mohammed cartoons, or
Opus comic strips: the simple fact of airing criticism of Muslim
ideologues is itself an offense against today’s Orwellian idea of
“tolerance,” even in cases where the ideologues themselves produced
the material being criticized.

In this case, the contortions of university logic would likely go
something like this: the MSA is engaging in protected political
speech, and so can confront others students, film those
confrontations, and present it for consumption, even if the purpose is
to recruit new ideologues for further harrassment.

However, the moment control over the context is wrested away by
someone like Charles at LGF, Muslims are being unfairly targeted as
objects of hate, and the criticism implicit in the re-contexualized
airing of the video (on a site known for its criticism of Islamic
fundamentalism) marks it as a performance of that hate, and so —
insofar as such an airing can now be re-framed as “intolerant” — is no
longer protected speech.

Or, to put such contortions into their most surreal formulation
(inexorable, given the structure of progressive thinking): this video,
shot by the MSA, is, once it is shown by someone the MSA would
consider inauthentic, a hate crime against Muslims.

Which will not stand! — given that adepts of identity politics and
modern progressivism proclaim themselves “intolerant of intolerance.”

Up is down. Black is white. Balki is that other guy — the short
nebishy one with the curly hair.

In the service of pragmatism, the university might — if the proper
pressure is applied — voice its displeasure over the way the MSA is
conducting its activism, even as it simultaneously mouths predictable
claims to champion free speech.

But those who have been paying attention — or who aren’t committed to
an intentional double standard that they recognize, but that they
cynically ignore — know in their guts that had this show of political
speech been, say, an “affirmative action bake sale” put on by college
Republicans, or an anti-gay protest put on by the Campus Crusade for
Christ, concerns about free speech would be less than forthcoming.


Uh Fred. Right wingers have a very long history of targeting women,
jews gays and blacks. Not to mention italians, irish, polish russian
and members of any religion that are not the exact same as theirs.

And they've mostly got over it. When will *YOU* get over it?

What are exactly you advocating doing to muslims for being a member of
a group in which some members abuse others? Are you ready to receive
the same treatment?

Expose their behavior to scrutiny, Kate. Hold them accountable. Quit
making excuses for them. Don't excuse their behavior on the grounds that
"Christians do it too".
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 09 Sep 2007 08:39:28 AM
On 7 Sep., 14:54, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:

cob...@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote innews:470cc32c.858529453@news-west.new=

scene.com:






On 07 Sep 2007 00:08:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com>
wrote:


And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=3D9745
"Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio"


Happily, they shot their own video to document the occasion.


I'm interested to hear what the diversity czars and the risk-averse
university bureaucrats have to say about this kind of identitarian
political activism - not because I'm particularly bothered by it (the
video shows the MSA for the repressive ideologues and wannabe zealous
thugs they are, and frankly, I find it refreshing to see such free
speech aired on a university campus for a change) - but rather because
a university-sanctioned group is performing such confrontational
activism on a university campus, where "hate" is purportedly
disallowed.


This puts diversity advocates and university administrators in quite a
bind, I should think. Because to "tolerate" the political activism of
the MSA, the university must simultaneously allow for "hatred" against
women and Jews (the latter not really much of a problem, of course -
provided the wretched Zionists don't threaten to sue). Unless, that
is, one is able to alter what constitutes "hate" by simultaneously
altering the feminist narrative to conclude that Muslim women who
"Americanize" are somehow traitors to their own cultural
foundationalism, and so shouldn't be granted the protections of
American women who are treated as kitchen and laundry room chattel.
Which argument, here, would manifest itself as nothing much more than
deafening silence from the Women's Studies Department.


Sadly, none of this anti-intellectual two-stepping is at all
implausible (or even unlikely) - particularly when one is forced by
one's progressivism to navigate through the minefield that identity
politics and multiculturalism combine to create once protected groups
are pitted against one another.


Of course, simply by posting the video, Charles at LGF sets himself up
as a convenient (and potentially diversionary) scapegoat. He will be
accused of "hate" - for precisely the same reason that progressives
can rationalize their refusal to publish Danish Mohammed cartoons, or
Opus comic strips: the simple fact of airing criticism of Muslim
ideologues is itself an offense against today's Orwellian idea of
"tolerance," even in cases where the ideologues themselves produced
the material being criticized.


In this case, the contortions of university logic would likely go
something like this: the MSA is engaging in protected political
speech, and so can confront others students, film those
confrontations, and present it for consumption, even if the purpose is
to recruit new ideologues for further harrassment.


However, the moment control over the context is wrested away by
someone like Charles at LGF, Muslims are being unfairly targeted as
objects of hate, and the criticism implicit in the re-contexualized
airing of the video (on a site known for its criticism of Islamic
fundamentalism) marks it as a performance of that hate, and so -
insofar as such an airing can now be re-framed as "intolerant" - is no
longer protected speech.


Or, to put such contortions into their most surreal formulation
(inexorable, given the structure of progressive thinking): this video,
shot by the MSA, is, once it is shown by someone the MSA would
consider inauthentic, a hate crime against Muslims.


Which will not stand! - given that adepts of identity politics and
modern progressivism proclaim themselves "intolerant of intolerance."


Up is down. Black is white. Balki is that other guy - the short
nebishy one with the curly hair.


In the service of pragmatism, the university might - if the proper
pressure is applied - voice its displeasure over the way the MSA is
conducting its activism, even as it simultaneously mouths predictable
claims to champion free speech.


But those who have been paying attention - or who aren't committed to
an intentional double standard that they recognize, but that they
cynically ignore - know in their guts that had this show of political
speech been, say, an "affirmative action bake sale" put on by college
Republicans, or an anti-gay protest put on by the Campus Crusade for
Christ, concerns about free speech would be less than forthcoming.


Uh Fred. Right wingers have a very long history of targeting women,
jews gays and blacks. Not to mention italians, irish, polish russian
and members of any religion that are not the exact same as theirs.


And they've mostly got over it. When will *YOU* get over it?

What are exactly you advocating doing to muslims for being a member of
a group in which some members abuse others? Are you ready to receive
the same treatment?


Expose their behavior to scrutiny, Kate. Hold them accountable. Quit
making excuses for them. Don't excuse their behavior on the grounds that
"Christians do it too".

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it." -
George Orwell- Skjul tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -

- Vis tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -

Who excused their behavior? I do not excuse Fred Phelps behavior, nor
do I blame all Christians for it.
.



User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 07 Sep 2007 07:21:03 PM
On 07 Sep 2007 00:08:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”

That was a pretty telling video so I wonder why someone had to go and
ruin it by claiming harrassment. It was a horrible incompetent attempt
to make a point and ended up showing that the interview was a bigot
and a dufus. But the interview subjects were not harrassed and
certainly "Women and Jews" were not harrassed.
[snip]
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 08 Sep 2007 09:30:36 AM
Matt Silberstein <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:7kq3e3lobggev8b1ae06733fn7ag2er7j0@4ax.com:

On 07 Sep 2007 00:08:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”


That was a pretty telling video so I wonder why someone had to go and
ruin it by claiming harrassment. It was a horrible incompetent attempt
to make a point and ended up showing that the interview was a bigot
and a dufus. But the interview subjects were not harrassed and
certainly "Women and Jews" were not harrassed.

If that's what they're willing to put on video, what do they do when the
cameras aren't rolling?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe
an immutable personal characteristic must dictate – without exception –
the ideological and political state of a person’s mind.”
.
User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 10 Sep 2007 08:51:47 AM
On 08 Sep 2007 14:30:36 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

Matt Silberstein <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:7kq3e3lobggev8b1ae06733fn7ag2er7j0@4ax.com:

On 07 Sep 2007 00:08:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
“Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio”


That was a pretty telling video so I wonder why someone had to go and
ruin it by claiming harrassment. It was a horrible incompetent attempt
to make a point and ended up showing that the interview was a bigot
and a dufus. But the interview subjects were not harrassed and
certainly "Women and Jews" were not harrassed.


If that's what they're willing to put on video, what do they do when the
cameras aren't rolling?

I don't know nor do you. What I saw was a really crude and rather
silly attempt to put words in people's mouths on camera. Doing that
off camera is a pretty useless activity.
.



User: ""

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 09 Sep 2007 08:59:54 AM
On 7 sep, 02:08, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
"Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio"

Happily, they shot their own video to document the occasion.

I'm interested to hear what the diversity czars and the risk-averse
university bureaucrats have to say about this kind of identitarian
political activism - not because I'm particularly bothered by it (the
video shows the MSA for the repressive ideologues and wannabe zealous
thugs they are, and frankly, I find it refreshing to see such free
speech aired on a university campus for a change) - but rather because a
university-sanctioned group is performing such confrontational activism
on a university campus, where "hate" is purportedly disallowed.

This puts diversity advocates and university administrators in quite a
bind, I should think. Because to "tolerate" the political activism of
the MSA, the university must simultaneously allow for "hatred" against
women and Jews (the latter not really much of a problem, of course -
provided the wretched Zionists don't threaten to sue). Unless, that is,
one is able to alter what constitutes "hate" by simultaneously altering
the feminist narrative to conclude that Muslim women who "Americanize"
are somehow traitors to their own cultural foundationalism, and so
shouldn't be granted the protections of American women who are treated
as kitchen and laundry room chattel. Which argument, here, would
manifest itself as nothing much more than deafening silence from the
Women's Studies Department.

Sadly, none of this anti-intellectual two-stepping is at all implausible
(or even unlikely) - particularly when one is forced by one's
progressivism to navigate through the minefield that identity politics
and multiculturalism combine to create once protected groups are pitted
against one another.

Of course, simply by posting the video, Charles at LGF sets himself up
as a convenient (and potentially diversionary) scapegoat. He will be
accused of "hate" - for precisely the same reason that progressives can
rationalize their refusal to publish Danish Mohammed cartoons, or Opus
comic strips: the simple fact of airing criticism of Muslim ideologues
is itself an offense against today's Orwellian idea of "tolerance," even
in cases where the ideologues themselves produced the material being
criticized.

In this case, the contortions of university logic would likely go
something like this: the MSA is engaging in protected political speech,
and so can confront others students, film those confrontations, and
present it for consumption, even if the purpose is to recruit new
ideologues for further harrassment.

However, the moment control over the context is wrested away by someone
like Charles at LGF, Muslims are being unfairly targeted as objects of
hate, and the criticism implicit in the re-contexualized airing of the
video (on a site known for its criticism of Islamic fundamentalism)
marks it as a performance of that hate, and so - insofar as such an
airing can now be re-framed as "intolerant" - is no longer protected
speech.

Or, to put such contortions into their most surreal formulation
(inexorable, given the structure of progressive thinking): this video,
shot by the MSA, is, once it is shown by someone the MSA would consider
inauthentic, a hate crime against Muslims.

Which will not stand! - given that adepts of identity politics and
modern progressivism proclaim themselves "intolerant of intolerance."

Up is down. Black is white. Balki is that other guy - the short nebishy
one with the curly hair.

In the service of pragmatism, the university might - if the proper
pressure is applied - voice its displeasure over the way the MSA is
conducting its activism, even as it simultaneously mouths predictable
claims to champion free speech.

But those who have been paying attention - or who aren't committed to an
intentional double standard that they recognize, but that they cynically
ignore - know in their guts that had this show of political speech been,
say, an "affirmative action bake sale" put on by college Republicans, or
an anti-gay protest put on by the Campus Crusade for Christ, concerns
about free speech would be less than forthcoming.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it." -
George Orwell

"This video is no longer available"
So I can't decide wether there is really any harrasment on it.
(and I won't take you or Brian Westley's word for it)
As all of the muslims I have sofar met, were normal nice people,
I guess my guess that there are obly about a million dangerous
radicals among them, might be correct.
Peter van Velzen
September 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
.

User: "schnurrbart"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 08 Sep 2007 02:48:53 PM
On Sep 6, 5:08 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the occasion:http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
"Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio"

The video was taken down so I can't see it. Is it posted somewhere
else?
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Muslim Student Association Harrasses Women and Jews 08 Sep 2007 06:46:12 PM
schnurrbart <QUATERNION19@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1189280933.555374.308060@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:

On Sep 6, 5:08 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:

And they shot their own video to commemorate the
occasion:http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2Z_h-diAJI

http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=9745
"Muslim Student Association Harasses Women and Jews at University of
Texas-San Antonio"


The video was taken down so I can't see it. Is it posted somewhere
else?

Not that I know of.
Here's a different one from the same source also on the subject of
bullying women about wearing the hijab.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iVzvWDLugRE
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe
an immutable personal characteristic must dictate – without exception –
the ideological and political state of a person’s mind.”
.



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SoT Christianity: NC Pastor Arrested Fro Killing 21YO Female College Student
Oops, Catholic High School Student Sentenced for Making Terrorist Threats
VA Tech massacre by Asian student: Witness survives by pretending to be dead
OT: Lawsuit looms in ex-teacher's affair Former student seeking custody of child
OT: Student fear in Russia's 'capital of race hatred'
Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker
Student Group at Carnegie Mellon University Shows Pornographic Film
OT: Death-Row Inmates Give $10,000 to Student
Federal Judge Says School Can't Bar Student From Wearing A Pro-Life Shirt
 

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