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"L. Raymond" |
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03 Mar 2005 01:01:57 PM |
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My anti-pope letter to the editor is published |
I have a letter in today's Austin (Texas) American Statesman about the
Pope, and I'm just tickled it was published with only minimal softening.
While the Pope lies in the hospital, surrounded by the
finest doctors and medical care modern science can
provide, one can only hope he takes a second to reflect
on his work in the world: the women he has condemned
to absolute poverty, the unwanted children doomed to
live lives of neglect and suffering, the countless men
and women dying of diseases a ten cent condom would
have prevented and all the other victims of his inhuman
policies on family planning and medical research. While
Catholics pray for their Pope, perhaps they can also spare
a thought for those others.
This was my original. They altered three items: "ten cent" became
"inexpensive", "inhuman" became "inhumane" which sounds much less harsh,
and they broke the first sentence into two.
--
L. Raymond
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: My anti-pope letter to the editor is published |
04 Mar 2005 01:34:38 AM |
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In article <1apdjvyrk6npg$.n60ix0w7gise.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
I have a letter in today's Austin (Texas) American Statesman about the
Pope, and I'm just tickled it was published with only minimal softening.
While the Pope lies in the hospital, surrounded by the
finest doctors and medical care modern science can
provide, one can only hope he takes a second to reflect
on his work in the world: the women he has condemned
to absolute poverty, the unwanted children doomed to
live lives of neglect and suffering, the countless men
and women dying of diseases a ten cent condom would
have prevented and all the other victims of his inhuman
policies on family planning and medical research. While
Catholics pray for their Pope, perhaps they can also spare
a thought for those others.
This was my original. They altered three items: "ten cent" became
"inexpensive", "inhuman" became "inhumane" which sounds much less harsh,
and they broke the first sentence into two.
Good letter. Any replies?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: My anti-pope letter to the editor is published |
03 Mar 2005 09:24:32 PM |
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In article <1apdjvyrk6npg$.n60ix0w7gise.dlg@40tude.net>,
badaddress@mylinuxisp.com says...
I have a letter in today's Austin (Texas) American Statesman about the
Pope, and I'm just tickled it was published with only minimal softening.
Congrats. I know that it feels good to have the chance to articulate
views in the editorial forum. I'm usually happy when they accept my
letters as well, though it's tempered by the realization that they'll
probably run some moron complaining about my letter the very next day.
Still, I think that all atheists should try harder to get their
religious criticisms published in the local print media. It's actually
a good way to meet new atheists in the community. I know that this is
how its been for me.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: My anti-pope letter to the editor is published |
04 Mar 2005 03:18:36 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:24:32 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <1apdjvyrk6npg$.n60ix0w7gise.dlg@40tude.net>,
badaddress@mylinuxisp.com says...
I have a letter in today's Austin (Texas) American Statesman about the
Pope, and I'm just tickled it was published with only minimal softening.
Congrats. I know that it feels good to have the chance to articulate
views in the editorial forum. I'm usually happy when they accept my
letters as well, though it's tempered by the realization that they'll
probably run some moron complaining about my letter the very next day.
Still, I think that all atheists should try harder to get their
religious criticisms published in the local print media. It's actually
a good way to meet new atheists in the community. I know that this is
how its been for me.
Ah, you can hold hands with your boy friend on the downtown train.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: My anti-pope letter to the editor is published |
04 Mar 2005 06:39:14 PM |
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In article <o4kh21djvrd545e6m5vrhldtihvmlkjhjp@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:24:32 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <1apdjvyrk6npg$.n60ix0w7gise.dlg@40tude.net>,
badaddress@mylinuxisp.com says...
I have a letter in today's Austin (Texas) American Statesman about the
Pope, and I'm just tickled it was published with only minimal softening.
Congrats. I know that it feels good to have the chance to articulate
views in the editorial forum. I'm usually happy when they accept my
letters as well, though it's tempered by the realization that they'll
probably run some moron complaining about my letter the very next day.
Still, I think that all atheists should try harder to get their
religious criticisms published in the local print media. It's actually
a good way to meet new atheists in the community. I know that this is
how its been for me.
Ah, you can hold hands with your boy friend on the downtown train.
You're inappropriately projecting your own not-so-latent homosexual
feeling onto others. Atheists tend to be cool, smart, interesting
people, making them the complete opposite of you on those dimensions.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: My anti-pope letter to the editor is published |
06 Mar 2005 08:39:17 AM |
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On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:39:14 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ah, you can hold hands with your boy friend on the downtown train.
You're inappropriately projecting your own not-so-latent homosexual
feeling onto others. Atheists tend to be cool, smart, interesting
people, making them the complete opposite of you on those dimensions.
Could be, but then again I hope to spend all eternity in the love and glory of
God. You prefer to send all eternity with the tickling tips of the white hot
flames of hell nipping at your cheeks, and I don't mean the ones on you face.
duke
*****
Acts 2
38Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every
one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the
forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive
the gift of the Holy Spirit".
*****
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| User: "Frank J Warner" |
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| Title: Re: My anti-pope letter to the editor is published |
04 Mar 2005 07:03:02 AM |
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In article <1apdjvyrk6npg$.n60ix0w7gise.dlg@40tude.net>, L. Raymond
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
I have a letter in today's Austin (Texas) American Statesman about the
Pope, and I'm just tickled it was published with only minimal softening.
While the Pope lies in the hospital, surrounded by the
finest doctors and medical care modern science can
provide, one can only hope he takes a second to reflect
on his work in the world: the women he has condemned
to absolute poverty, the unwanted children doomed to
live lives of neglect and suffering, the countless men
and women dying of diseases a ten cent condom would
have prevented and all the other victims of his inhuman
policies on family planning and medical research. While
Catholics pray for their Pope, perhaps they can also spare
a thought for those others.
This was my original. They altered three items: "ten cent" became
"inexpensive", "inhuman" became "inhumane" which sounds much less harsh,
and they broke the first sentence into two.
All I can say is, congratulations, and watch your back. You've just
***** a third of the city, minimum.
-Frank
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Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: My anti-pope letter to the editor is published |
03 Mar 2005 02:52:06 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:01:57 -0600, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> said in alt.atheism:
I have a letter in today's Austin (Texas) American Statesman about the
Pope, and I'm just tickled it was published with only minimal softening.
While the Pope lies in the hospital, surrounded by the
finest doctors and medical care modern science can
provide, one can only hope he takes a second to reflect
on his work in the world: the women he has condemned
to absolute poverty, the unwanted children doomed to
live lives of neglect and suffering, the countless men
and women dying of diseases a ten cent condom would
have prevented and all the other victims of his inhuman
policies on family planning and medical research. While
Catholics pray for their Pope, perhaps they can also spare
a thought for those others.
This was my original. They altered three items: "ten cent" became
"inexpensive", "inhuman" became "inhumane" which sounds much less harsh
His policies aren't inhuman - he's human. They are inhumane.
--
rukbat at verizon dot net
"The United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"
- Treaty of Tripoli, 1797, ratified by Congress
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: My anti-pope letter to the editor is published |
03 Mar 2005 03:28:18 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:01:57 -0600, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
I have a letter in today's Austin (Texas) American Statesman about the
Pope, and I'm just tickled it was published with only minimal softening.
While the Pope lies in the hospital, surrounded by the
finest doctors and medical care modern science can
provide, one can only hope he takes a second to reflect
on his work in the world: the women he has condemned
to absolute poverty, the unwanted children doomed to
live lives of neglect and suffering, the countless men
and women dying of diseases a ten cent condom would
have prevented and all the other victims of his inhuman
policies on family planning and medical research. While
Catholics pray for their Pope, perhaps they can also spare
a thought for those others.
This was my original. They altered three items: "ten cent" became
"inexpensive",
I'd probably have done something similar; it reads less as
grandstanding that way.
"inhuman" became "inhumane" which sounds much less harsh,
I agree with this alteration as well. Hitler and Stalin's policies
were inhuman; the Pope's merely inhumane.
and they broke the first sentence into two.
How did it wind up reading?
BTW, I very much agree with the gist of your letter.
Hitler and Stalin's policies were inhuman, the Pope's merely inhumane.
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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03 Mar 2005 05:31:11 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 21:28:18 GMT, raven1 wrote:
"inhuman" became "inhumane" which sounds much less harsh,
I agree with this alteration as well. Hitler and Stalin's policies
were inhuman; the Pope's merely inhumane.
I can't agree, and not just because of basic definitions. Inhuman is
more active, while inhumane is too passive to describe for what this
religion and its leader does.
The pope's policies have affected millions of lives for two
generations now. People will live in daily misery, poverty and
degradation not just for the duration of a war as with Hitler but for as
long as this pope and his successor have any power whatsoever. And
considering I've read he has appointed all but three of the electors, I
think it's safe to say he'll be followed by someone with policies
similar to his own. The papacy has behind it centuries of contempt for
humanity which it manifested as murderous tribunals and inciting to
genocide, none of which this man said was wrong when he issued his
"apology". On top of this, he believes his every word and action is
completely right solely because of his position. So if one says Stalin
was inhuman, then surely the same can be said for the pope.
Boy, one could go on for pages about his total lack of humanity. His
utter contempt for women and homosexuals, his and his followers attempts
to prevent Europe from emerging from the shadow cast by thousands of
years of religion oppression and hatred by enshrining religion in the
EU's constitution, and let's not even get started on the dehumanizing,
slavish abasement of those who would crawl on their bellies like pigs to
suckle at the Vatican's teat, hoping for some sort of validation to make
their empty lives worthwhile because they've accepted the lie that the
only meaning in life that counts comes from a magical demiurge whose
every action has to be interpreted by his pet thaumaturge.
Jeez, I'm really getting angry here, but it's thinking about the pope,
not your disagreeing. It actually took me almost an hour to prepare the
letter I sent, since I knew I had to make it less strident if I really
wanted it published. I used the word "inhuman" in lieu of a three or
four line description of just how vile that evil, sanctimonious
dung-shoveler and his policies are. Still, that's why I copied the
whole thing here, to get reactions. I surely could have made the same
point with a word or phrase not as open to argument as "inhuman".
How did it wind up reading?
I'm pleased with it. I think their breaking it up from two sentences
to three sort of hurt the flow, but it was nothing significant. I'm
especially glad they've published it because for Lent they've got a
series going about some Chinese man who is going to take Catholic
orders, and his journey from being an atheist communist to becoming a
priest. It's good to get another point of view to counter such things.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "duke" |
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04 Mar 2005 03:17:44 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:01:57 -0600, "L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
I have a letter in today's Austin (Texas) American Statesman about the
Pope, and I'm just tickled it was published with only minimal softening.
While the Pope lies in the hospital, surrounded by the
finest doctors and medical care modern science can
provide, one can only hope he takes a second to reflect
on his work in the world: the women he has condemned
to absolute poverty, the unwanted children doomed to
live lives of neglect and suffering, the countless men
and women dying of diseases a ten cent condom would
have prevented and all the other victims of his inhuman
policies on family planning and medical research. While
Catholics pray for their Pope, perhaps they can also spare
a thought for those others.
This was my original. They altered three items: "ten cent" became
"inexpensive", "inhuman" became "inhumane" which sounds much less harsh,
and they broke the first sentence into two.
Which says nothing about agreeing with you. Your problem is that you mistakenly
blame this on the Pope. What is fully over your head, as well as bud's, is that
the Church is not professing it's own ideas, but those revealed by God.
It is God that says these are wrong, not the Pope.
Ask Bud about that.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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