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"Eris" |
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27 Apr 2006 10:22:38 AM |
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My favorite fable |
A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately looking
for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and begged
them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
afraid that he would sting them.
At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his back
as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown along
with me!
The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
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| User: "Rev. Prunefinger" |
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| Title: Re: My favorite fable |
27 Apr 2006 12:55:51 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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: A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately
looking
: for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and begged
: them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
: afraid that he would sting them.
:
: At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his
back
: as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
: turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
: scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown
along
: with me!
:
: The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
:
: Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
It explains nothing. The author of this fable had a faulty
understanding of the scorpion's nature. It's more like a shaggy dog
story....
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: My favorite fable |
27 Apr 2006 03:11:48 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:55:51 GMT, "Rev. Prunefinger"
<misleart@ameritech.net> wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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: A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately
looking
: for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and begged
: them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
: afraid that he would sting them.
:
: At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his
back
: as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
: turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
: scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown
along
: with me!
:
: The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
:
: Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
It explains nothing. The author of this fable had a faulty
understanding of the scorpion's nature. It's more like a shaggy dog
story....
Sorry but I don't have that kind of depth. Superficial as the story
is, it was a epiphany for me. My ex wife tried to change my nature,
result divorce.
She misses me, I do not miss her, the ***** cried the last time we
met. She filed, the by the end of the trial the judge openly pitied
me.
He was famous for ruling in favor of the female, my attorney couldn't
believe it when he gave me everything we asked for, Jane claimed
victory. It was her nature.
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| User: "Rev. Prunefinger" |
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| Title: Re: My favorite fable |
27 Apr 2006 03:23:16 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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: On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:55:51 GMT, "Rev. Prunefinger"
: <misleart@ameritech.net> wrote:
:
: >"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
: >news:84o152ph96sj76c49mm214oqnr4be7pc7c@4ax.com...
: >: A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately
: >looking
: >: for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and
begged
: >: them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
: >: afraid that he would sting them.
: >:
: >: At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his
: >back
: >: as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
: >: turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
: >: scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown
: >along
: >: with me!
: >:
: >: The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
: >:
: >: Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
: >
: >It explains nothing. The author of this fable had a faulty
: >understanding of the scorpion's nature. It's more like a shaggy
dog
: >story....
:
: Sorry but I don't have that kind of depth. Superficial as the story
: is, it was a epiphany for me. My ex wife tried to change my nature,
: result divorce.
:
: She misses me, I do not miss her, the ***** cried the last time we
: met. She filed, the by the end of the trial the judge openly pitied
: me.
:
: He was famous for ruling in favor of the female, my attorney
couldn't
: believe it when he gave me everything we asked for, Jane claimed
: victory. It was her nature.
'tisn't a matter of depth, merely a matter of understanding....this is
reminding me of the many individuals that I've known over the years,
who for example, can't comprehend the difference between the words
'affect' and 'effect'. Clear as day to me, but darkest night to them.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: My favorite fable |
27 Apr 2006 04:12:38 PM |
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Rev. Prunefinger wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:55:51 GMT, "Rev. Prunefinger"
<misleart@ameritech.net> wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:84o152ph96sj76c49mm214oqnr4be7pc7c@4ax.com...
A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately
looking for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals
and begged them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and
ran away afraid that he would sting them.
At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his
back as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung
the turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at
the scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will
drown along with me!
The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
It explains nothing. The author of this fable had a faulty
understanding of the scorpion's nature. It's more like a shaggy dog
story....
Sorry but I don't have that kind of depth. Superficial as the story
is, it was a epiphany for me. My ex wife tried to change my nature,
result divorce.
She misses me, I do not miss her, the ***** cried the last time we
met. She filed, the by the end of the trial the judge openly pitied
me.
He was famous for ruling in favor of the female, my attorney couldn't
believe it when he gave me everything we asked for, Jane claimed
victory. It was her nature.
'tisn't a matter of depth, merely a matter of understanding....this is
reminding me of the many individuals that I've known over the years,
who for example, can't comprehend the difference between the words
'affect' and 'effect'. Clear as day to me, but darkest night to them.
Then you should have no problem understanding the scorpion story, yet you
ignore the idea of talking animals to focus in on an alleged faulty
understanding of the scorpion.
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| User: "Red Jacket Red" |
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| Title: Re: My favorite fable |
27 Apr 2006 03:52:43 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:55:51 GMT, "Rev. Prunefinger"
<misleart@ameritech.net> wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:84o152ph96sj76c49mm214oqnr4be7pc7c@4ax.com...
: A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately
looking
: for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and begged
: them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
: afraid that he would sting them.
:
: At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his
back
: as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
: turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
: scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown
along
: with me!
:
: The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
:
: Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
It explains nothing. The author of this fable had a faulty
understanding of the scorpion's nature. It's more like a shaggy dog
story....
Sorry but I don't have that kind of depth. Superficial as the story
is, it was a epiphany for me. My ex wife tried to change my nature,
result divorce.
She misses me, I do not miss her, the ***** cried the last time we
met. She filed, the by the end of the trial the judge openly pitied
me.
He was famous for ruling in favor of the female, my attorney couldn't
believe it when he gave me everything we asked for, Jane claimed
victory. It was her nature.
Some day things will change for the better Eris, no on can
have your kind luck that long.
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| User: "La N" |
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| Title: Re: My favorite fable |
27 Apr 2006 12:20:20 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately looking
for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and begged
them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
afraid that he would sting them.
At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his back
as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown along
with me!
The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
That is a variation of a Zen parable, as is this:
Tanzan and Ekido were once travelling together down a muddy road. A heavy
rain was still falling.
Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash,
unable to cross the intersection.
"Come on, girl," said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he carried
her over the mud.
Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging
temple. Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't do near
females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is
dangerous. Why did you do that?"
"I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"
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| User: "Rev. Prunefinger" |
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| Title: Re: My favorite fable |
27 Apr 2006 12:57:21 PM |
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"La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: "Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
: news:84o152ph96sj76c49mm214oqnr4be7pc7c@4ax.com...
: >A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately
looking
: > for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and
begged
: > them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
: > afraid that he would sting them.
: >
: > At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his
back
: > as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
: > turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
: > scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown
along
: > with me!
: >
: > The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
: >
: > Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
:
: That is a variation of a Zen parable, as is this:
:
: Tanzan and Ekido were once travelling together down a muddy road. A
heavy
: rain was still falling.
: Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and
sash,
: unable to cross the intersection.
:
: "Come on, girl," said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he
carried
: her over the mud.
:
: Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a
lodging
: temple. Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't do
near
: females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It
is
: dangerous. Why did you do that?"
:
: "I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"
I'm sorry, but you too, are mistaken. These two stories only have a
very superficial similarity. The intended meanings are entirely
different.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: My favorite fable |
01 May 2006 12:00:50 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:20:20 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately looking
for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and begged
them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
afraid that he would sting them.
At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his back
as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown along
with me!
The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
That is a variation of a Zen parable, as is this:
Tanzan and Ekido were once travelling together down a muddy road. A heavy
rain was still falling.
Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash,
unable to cross the intersection.
"Come on, girl," said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he carried
her over the mud.
Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging
temple. Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't do near
females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is
dangerous. Why did you do that?"
"I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"
I've heard variants of this one, too.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "La N" |
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01 May 2006 12:06:44 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:20:20 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately looking
for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and begged
them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
afraid that he would sting them.
At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his back
as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown along
with me!
The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
That is a variation of a Zen parable, as is this:
Tanzan and Ekido were once travelling together down a muddy road. A heavy
rain was still falling.
Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash,
unable to cross the intersection.
"Come on, girl," said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he carried
her over the mud.
Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging
temple. Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't do near
females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is
dangerous. Why did you do that?"
"I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"
I've heard variants of this one, too.
Prolly most, if not all of us, have lived it given that none of us on Usenet
are fully enlightened human beings.
- nilita
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| User: "stoney" |
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02 May 2006 08:21:23 PM |
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:06:44 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:20:20 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately looking
for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and begged
them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
afraid that he would sting them.
At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his back
as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown along
with me!
The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
That is a variation of a Zen parable, as is this:
Tanzan and Ekido were once travelling together down a muddy road. A heavy
rain was still falling.
Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash,
unable to cross the intersection.
"Come on, girl," said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he carried
her over the mud.
Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging
temple. Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't do near
females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is
dangerous. Why did you do that?"
"I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"
I've heard variants of this one, too.
Prolly most, if not all of us, have lived it given that none of us on Usenet
are fully enlightened human beings.
Whatever 'fully enlightened' means followed by an objective method of
measurement-otherwise it's empty verbage. The term has meaning for you
and that's just fine.
- nilita
Cheers.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "La N" |
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02 May 2006 08:35:11 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:06:44 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:20:20 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Eris" <vithant@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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A scorpion was walking up and down the Nile river desperately looking
for a way across the Nile. He approached several animals and begged
them to ferry him across the Nile. They all refused and ran away
afraid that he would sting them.
At last he found a turtle, who he convinced to let him sit on his back
as he swam across the Nile. Halfway across the scorpion stung the
turtle in the neck. As the turtle was drowning, he looked at the
scorpion and asked, why? you have gained nothing, you will drown along
with me!
The Scorpion replied, because it is my nature to sting.
Explains a lot of things to me. Any other favorites out there?
That is a variation of a Zen parable, as is this:
Tanzan and Ekido were once travelling together down a muddy road. A
heavy
rain was still falling.
Coming around a bend, they met a lovely girl in a silk kimono and sash,
unable to cross the intersection.
"Come on, girl," said Tanzan at once. Lifting her in his arms, he
carried
her over the mud.
Ekido did not speak again until that night when they reached a lodging
temple. Then he no longer could restrain himself. "We monks don't do
near
females," he told Tanzan, "especially not young and lovely ones. It is
dangerous. Why did you do that?"
"I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"
I've heard variants of this one, too.
Prolly most, if not all of us, have lived it given that none of us on
Usenet
are fully enlightened human beings.
Whatever 'fully enlightened' means followed by an objective method of
measurement-otherwise it's empty verbage. The term has meaning for you
and that's just fine.
- nilita
Cheers.
Fair enough.
I looked up the various web definitions of "enlightened", and this is my
favourite:
Enlightened:
a.. A man who became fully aware of his Stupidity and the necessity of its
transformation with the help of Highest.
www.iceshower.info/english/dict.html
YMMV, of course ...%)
- nilita
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| User: "stoney" |
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03 May 2006 11:32:18 AM |
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On Wed, 03 May 2006 01:35:11 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:06:44 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
"I left the girl there," said Tanzan. "Are you still carrying her?"
I've heard variants of this one, too.
Prolly most, if not all of us, have lived it given that none of us on
Usenet
are fully enlightened human beings.
Whatever 'fully enlightened' means followed by an objective method of
measurement-otherwise it's empty verbage. The term has meaning for you
and that's just fine.
- nilita
Cheers.
Fair enough.
I looked up the various web definitions of "enlightened", and this is my
favourite:
Enlightened:
a.. A man who became fully aware of his Stupidity and the necessity of its
transformation with the help of Highest.
www.iceshower.info/english/dict.html
YMMV, of course ...%)
Of course. :) Looks like my prior post worked. [whew] I was
concerned, as I couldn't be sure the intended neutral stance was
portrayed.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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