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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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08 Jan 2006 05:33:03 PM |
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My Lai massacre hero dies at 62 |
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4589486.stm
Hugh Thompson Jnr, a former US military helicopter pilot who helped
stop one of the most infamous massacres of the Vietnam War has died,
aged 62.
Mr Thompson and his crew came upon US troops killing civilians at the
village of My Lai on 16 March 1968.
He put his helicopter down between the soldiers and villagers, ordering
his men to shoot their fellow Americans if they attacked the civilians.
"There was no way I could turn my back on them," he later said of the
victims.
Mr Thompson, a warrant officer at the time, called in support from
other US helicopters, and together they airlifted at least nine
Vietnamese civilians - including a wounded boy - to safety.
He returned to headquarters, angrily telling his commanders what he had
seen. They ordered soldiers in the area to stop shooting.
But Mr Thompson was shunned for years by fellow soldiers, received
death threats, and was once told by a congressman that he was the only
American who should be punished over My Lai.
A platoon commander, Lt William Calley, was later court-martialed and
sentenced to life in prison for his role in the killings.
President Richard Nixon commuted his sentence to three years' house
arrest.
Lobbying
Although the My Lai massacre became one of the best-known atrocities of
the war - with journalist Seymour Hersh winning a Pulitzer Prize for
reporting on it - little was known about Mr Thompson's actions for
decades.
In the 1980s, Clemson University Professor David Egan saw him
interviewed in a documentary and began to campaign on his behalf.
He persuaded people including Vietnam-era Secretary of State Dean Rusk
to lobby the government to honour the helicopter crew.
Mr Thompson and his colleagues Lawrence Colburn and Glenn Andreotta
were awarded the Soldier's Medal, the highest US miltiary award for
bravery when not confronting an enemy.
Mr Thompson was close to tears as he accepted the award in 1998 "for
all the men who served their country with honour on the battlefields of
South-East Asia".
Mr Andreotta's award was posthumous. He was killed in Vietnam less than
a month after My Lai.
Mr Colburn was at Mr Thompson's bedside when he died, the Associated
Press reported.
Mr Thompson died of cancer. He had been ill for some time and was
removed from life support earlier in the week.
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| User: "Rev. Richard Skull" |
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10 Jan 2006 05:46:46 PM |
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<<A platoon commander, Lt William Calley, was later court-martialed and
sentenced to life in prison for his role in the killings. >>
Calley today lives in the same town as Jesus and Magdeline!
Maybe they should invite him over for dinner one night?
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| User: "J Young" |
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08 Jan 2006 10:22:18 PM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11s385h1thevt28@corp.supernews.com...
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4589486.stm
Hugh Thompson Jnr, a former US military helicopter pilot who helped
stop one of the most infamous massacres of the Vietnam War has died,
aged 62.
Mr Thompson and his crew came upon US troops killing civilians at the
village of My Lai on 16 March 1968.
He put his helicopter down between the soldiers and villagers, ordering
his men to shoot their fellow Americans if they attacked the civilians.
"There was no way I could turn my back on them," he later said of the
victims.
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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09 Jan 2006 10:06:26 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11s385h1thevt28@corp.supernews.com...
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4589486.stm
Hugh Thompson Jnr, a former US military helicopter pilot who helped
stop one of the most infamous massacres of the Vietnam War has died, aged 62.
Mr Thompson and his crew came upon US troops killing civilians at the
village of My Lai on 16 March 1968.
He put his helicopter down between the soldiers and villagers, ordering
his men to shoot their fellow Americans if they attacked the civilians.
"There was no way I could turn my back on them," he later said of the victims.
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
You must be a Christian.
---
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/qind/ -- Not one Democrat
"Who died and made you Pat Robertson?" - alt.atheism.holysmoke
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| User: "Roy. Just Roy." |
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08 Jan 2006 11:05:07 PM |
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Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
Uh, that would be ALLIED gooks. My Lai was in SOUTH Vietnam. You
remember SOUTH Vietnam, right? The country we sent 1.2 million soldiers
to protect?
Next time, Google first, talk ***** second.
/Roy
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| User: "Baldin Pramer" |
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09 Jan 2006 11:09:16 AM |
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Roy. Just Roy. wrote:
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
Uh, that would be ALLIED gooks. My Lai was in SOUTH Vietnam. You
remember SOUTH Vietnam, right? The country we sent 1.2 million soldiers
to protect?
Next time, Google first, talk ***** second.
/Roy
If we were ordered to kill them, does that not make them the enemy?
Think before you talk *****.
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Sir Baldin Pramer, RPA
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| User: "Roy. Just Roy." |
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09 Jan 2006 05:30:31 PM |
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If we were ordered to kill them, does that not make them the enemy?
That same defense was used at the Nuremberg trials. Didn't work then
either.
Think before you talk *****.
***** before you try to think. A good BM does wonders for clarity.
/Roy
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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09 Jan 2006 09:18:17 PM |
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in article 43c29877$1@nntp.zianet.com, Baldin Pramer at
baldin@mailtoworld.com wrote on 1/9/06 12:09 PM:
Roy. Just Roy. wrote:
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
Uh, that would be ALLIED gooks. My Lai was in SOUTH Vietnam. You
remember SOUTH Vietnam, right? The country we sent 1.2 million soldiers
to protect?
Next time, Google first, talk ***** second.
/Roy
If we were ordered to kill them, does that not make them the enemy?
Think before you talk *****.
Do YOU always do what you're told without thinking?
Paul
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| User: "Unclaimed Mysteries" |
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09 Jan 2006 10:00:35 PM |
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Paul Duca wrote:
in article 43c29877$1@nntp.zianet.com, Baldin Pramer at
baldin@mailtoworld.com wrote on 1/9/06 12:09 PM:
Roy. Just Roy. wrote:
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
Uh, that would be ALLIED gooks. My Lai was in SOUTH Vietnam. You
remember SOUTH Vietnam, right? The country we sent 1.2 million soldiers
to protect?
Next time, Google first, talk ***** second.
/Roy
If we were ordered to kill them, does that not make them the enemy?
Think before you talk *****.
Do YOU always do what you're told without thinking?
As a 21st century American, I dare defend my HDTV and NFL Sunday Ticket.
Thinking is not our privilege. I buy branded products and enjoy
prime-time television programs. I know in my heart that thinking gives
the advantage to the Enemy. Let our superiors do the thinking. They are
superior, and we are glad to obey. Always act on orders. No thinking.
Comply immediately. Do right. Always work. Go to church. Do right.
Destroy the Enemy. When I comply with orders, I feel pleasure. I destroy
the Enemy. When I disobey orders, I feel intense pain in my head. The
pain gets worse until I comply with the orders of my superiors. Do
right. I will forget how to disobey. The path is clear. Always work. Go
to church. Do right.
You are either with us, or you are with the thinkers.
--
It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.
http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net
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| User: "Baldin Pramer" |
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09 Jan 2006 10:09:52 PM |
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Paul Duca wrote:
in article 43c29877$1@nntp.zianet.com, Baldin Pramer at
baldin@mailtoworld.com wrote on 1/9/06 12:09 PM:
Roy. Just Roy. wrote:
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
Uh, that would be ALLIED gooks. My Lai was in SOUTH Vietnam. You
remember SOUTH Vietnam, right? The country we sent 1.2 million soldiers
to protect?
Next time, Google first, talk ***** second.
/Roy
If we were ordered to kill them, does that not make them the enemy?
Think before you talk *****.
Do YOU always do what you're told without thinking?
I dunno. Lemme ask... nenslo? Do I?
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Sir Baldin Pramer, RPA
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| User: "Rev. 11D Meow!" |
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09 Jan 2006 12:36:53 AM |
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Guess that's make you Mother Mary's tampon stain, doofuss.
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:n_udnXuTY51OeVzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11s385h1thevt28@corp.supernews.com...
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4589486.stm
Hugh Thompson Jnr, a former US military helicopter pilot who helped
stop one of the most infamous massacres of the Vietnam War has died,
aged 62.
Mr Thompson and his crew came upon US troops killing civilians at the
village of My Lai on 16 March 1968.
He put his helicopter down between the soldiers and villagers, ordering
his men to shoot their fellow Americans if they attacked the civilians.
"There was no way I could turn my back on them," he later said of the
victims.
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy
gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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10 Jan 2006 06:32:22 PM |
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In article <n_udnXuTY51OeVzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com> "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11s385h1thevt28@corp.supernews.com...
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4589486.stm
Hugh Thompson Jnr, a former US military helicopter pilot who helped
stop one of the most infamous massacres of the Vietnam War has died,
aged 62.
Mr Thompson and his crew came upon US troops killing civilians at the
village of My Lai on 16 March 1968.
He put his helicopter down between the soldiers and villagers, ordering
his men to shoot their fellow Americans if they attacked the civilians.
"There was no way I could turn my back on them," he later said of the
victims.
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
The Army appears to disagree with you slightly, having decorated
the three who "turned", while sentencing the one they "turned"
against to life.
But hey, what do they know about such things?
-- cary
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| User: "Rev. Richard Skull" |
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10 Jan 2006 06:49:24 PM |
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<<The Army appears to disagree with you slightly, having decorated
the three who "turned", while sentencing the one they "turned"
against to life. >>
The Army only decorated these guys 30 years after the fact.
And Calley's sentence was reduced to 3 months house arrest by Nixon.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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10 Jan 2006 06:53:16 PM |
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In article <1136940564.651805.182320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Rev. Richard Skull" <mshotz@aol.com> writes:
<<The Army appears to disagree with you slightly, having decorated
the three who "turned", while sentencing the one they "turned"
against to life. >>
The Army only decorated these guys 30 years after the fact.
And Calley's sentence was reduced to 3 months house arrest by Nixon.
Quite true.
Not that this upsets the moral gradient here.
-- cary
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| User: "Magister SODDI" |
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11 Jan 2006 11:36:57 PM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:
(snip)
Not that this upsets the moral gradient here.
The moral gradient on alt.slack is akin to those "Mystery Hills" around the
U.S.
You know the ones... you put your car in neutral on the downslope and it
rolls back up to the top of the hill.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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12 Jan 2006 10:50:23 AM |
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In article <sTlxf.120913$k76.114528@bignews6.bellsouth.net> "Magister SODDI" <*****@you.net> writes:
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:
(snip)
Not that this upsets the moral gradient here.
The moral gradient on alt.slack is akin to those "Mystery Hills" around the
U.S.
You know the ones... you put your car in neutral on the downslope and it
rolls back up to the top of the hill.
Oopsie. I've been slacksicated, then?
Love your nym, by the way.
-- cary
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| User: "Zapanaz http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl" |
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10 Jan 2006 08:07:42 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:53:16 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <1136940564.651805.182320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Rev. Richard Skull" <mshotz@aol.com> writes:
<<The Army appears to disagree with you slightly, having decorated
the three who "turned", while sentencing the one they "turned"
against to life. >>
The Army only decorated these guys 30 years after the fact.
And Calley's sentence was reduced to 3 months house arrest by Nixon.
Quite true.
Not that this upsets the moral gradient here.
-- cary
This is graded?
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Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.
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| User: "" |
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08 Jan 2006 10:31:54 PM |
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J Young wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11s385h1thevt28@corp.supernews.com...
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4589486.stm
Hugh Thompson Jnr, a former US military helicopter pilot who helped
stop one of the most infamous massacres of the Vietnam War has died,
aged 62.
Mr Thompson and his crew came upon US troops killing civilians at the
village of My Lai on 16 March 1968.
He put his helicopter down between the soldiers and villagers, ordering
his men to shoot their fellow Americans if they attacked the civilians.
"There was no way I could turn my back on them," he later said of the
victims.
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
Stopping human beings from killing unarmed women and children
definitely
makes him a hero. We were there to protect the people of Veitnam from
communism, not to kill them in cold blood.
Larry
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| User: "martin" |
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09 Jan 2006 06:04:04 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
Jesus christ on a pogo-stick you are one sick tosser
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| User: "MarkA" |
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09 Jan 2006 06:57:48 AM |
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:22:18 -0500, J Young wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11s385h1thevt28@corp.supernews.com...
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4589486.stm
Hugh Thompson Jnr, a former US military helicopter pilot who helped stop
one of the most infamous massacres of the Vietnam War has died, aged 62.
Mr Thompson and his crew came upon US troops killing civilians at the
village of My Lai on 16 March 1968.
He put his helicopter down between the soldiers and villagers, ordering
his men to shoot their fellow Americans if they attacked the civilians.
"There was no way I could turn my back on them," he later said of the
victims.
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy
gooks does not exactly make one a hero.
No, but protecting innocent villagers from being massacred does.
*****.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Rev Carter" |
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09 Jan 2006 05:39:19 PM |
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Q: "If we were ordered to kill them, does that not make them the
enemy?"
A: No, it just makes them a target.
-Rev Carter
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| User: "Zapanaz http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl" |
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08 Jan 2006 11:04:13 PM |
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 23:22:18 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11s385h1thevt28@corp.supernews.com...
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4589486.stm
Hugh Thompson Jnr, a former US military helicopter pilot who helped
stop one of the most infamous massacres of the Vietnam War has died,
aged 62.
Mr Thompson and his crew came upon US troops killing civilians at the
village of My Lai on 16 March 1968.
He put his helicopter down between the soldiers and villagers, ordering
his men to shoot their fellow Americans if they attacked the civilians.
"There was no way I could turn my back on them," he later said of the
victims.
Turning against fellow American soldiers to protect a village of enemy gooks
does not exactly make one a hero.
boy I'm glad that people like you are so obviously people like you.
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Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
fucking a goat is all about subtle nuances
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08 Jan 2006 09:23:51 PM |
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
Agreement.
I have known two gentlemen who either stopped war
crimes from being committed, or severely punished
those who committed them after the fact. Such men
rarely get commended for their actions, but it is
a sign of honor that so many of them exist.
I distinguish what they did, in the context of the
heat of battle, living in the same conditions as
those who would abuse; from those who condemn
actions of soldiers after the fact, far out of the
field and the circumstances of war.
The former maintained their discipline in the face
of those things that contribute to abuses. They
rejected situational relativism in ethics, and
stand their ground, even against superiors.
The latter are usually just opportunists, who seek
some petty condemnation against those who lived and
worked in inhuman conditions.
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Be Sure To Visit the 'SubGenius Reverend' Blog:
http://slackoff.blogspot.com/
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Anyone with a gun pointed
at you is the government.
--nu-monet
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| User: "c-bee1" |
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09 Jan 2006 06:09:44 PM |
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"nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com> wrote in message
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
Agreement.
I have known two gentlemen who either stopped war
crimes from being committed, or severely punished
those who committed them after the fact. Such men
rarely get commended for their actions, but it is
a sign of honor that so many of them exist.
I distinguish what they did, in the context of the
heat of battle, living in the same conditions as
those who would abuse; from those who condemn
actions of soldiers after the fact, far out of the
field and the circumstances of war.
The former maintained their discipline in the face
of those things that contribute to abuses. They
rejected situational relativism in ethics, and
stand their ground, even against superiors.
The latter are usually just opportunists, who seek
some petty condemnation against those who lived and
worked in inhuman conditions.
rofl Or maybe they aren't on the scene.
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08 Jan 2006 11:01:30 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:23:51 -0700, nu-monet v8.0 wrote:
blablabla...
yawn...
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| User: "Baldin Pramer" |
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08 Jan 2006 10:04:31 PM |
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nu-monet v8.0 wrote:
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
My Lai massacre hero dies at 62
Agreement.
I have known two gentlemen who either stopped war
crimes from being committed, or severely punished
those who committed them after the fact. Such men
rarely get commended for their actions, but it is
a sign of honor that so many of them exist.
I distinguish what they did, in the context of the
heat of battle, living in the same conditions as
those who would abuse; from those who condemn
actions of soldiers after the fact, far out of the
field and the circumstances of war.
The former maintained their discipline in the face
of those things that contribute to abuses. They
rejected situational relativism in ethics, and
stand their ground, even against superiors.
The latter are usually just opportunists, who seek
some petty condemnation against those who lived and
worked in inhuman conditions.
And how about your acquaintance the prosecutor. Of which class was he?
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Sir Baldin Pramer, RPA
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| User: "nu-monet v8.0" |
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09 Jan 2006 07:14:41 AM |
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Baldin Pramer wrote:
And how about your acquaintance the prosecutor.
Of which class was he?
What are you talking about?
--
Be Sure To Visit the 'SubGenius Reverend' Blog:
http://slackoff.blogspot.com/
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"We've pretty much just been patrolling
and flying helicopters all over the place,
and when we see something bad, we blow it up."
-- Maj. David Holahan, US Marines
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| User: "Baldin Pramer" |
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09 Jan 2006 12:07:13 PM |
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nu-monet v8.0 wrote:
Baldin Pramer wrote:
And how about your acquaintance the prosecutor.
Of which class was he?
What are you talking about?
"I have known two gentlemen who either stopped war
crimes from being committed, or severely punished
those who committed them after the fact."
"The latter are usually just opportunists, who seek
some petty condemnation against those who lived and
worked in inhuman conditions."
Just wondering if your acquaintances were of the ethical type, or if
they were opportunists.
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Sir Baldin Pramer, RPA
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| User: "nu-monet v8.0" |
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09 Jan 2006 01:05:53 PM |
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Baldin Pramer wrote:
nu-monet v8.0 wrote:
Baldin Pramer wrote:
And how about your acquaintance the prosecutor.
Of which class was he?
What are you talking about?
"I have known two gentlemen who either stopped war
crimes from being committed, or severely punished
those who committed them after the fact."
"The latter are usually just opportunists, who seek
some petty condemnation against those who lived and
worked in inhuman conditions."
Just wondering if your acquaintances were of the
ethical type, or if they were opportunists.
The were both army officers. The first was in Germany
at the close of WWII, where US military police would
sometimes hang captured SS on the spot. He intervened
in one such execution even in the face of two superior
officers, which resulted in his having to arrest the
SS and personally escort them back to the rear. Lucky
for the 4 of the 6 who were later proven to *not* be SS.
The other guy was a Lt. Col in Vietnam, who was presented
with a vital enemy war plan from a US Captain, then
discovered that the Captain had obtained the information
by severely torturing a VC woman. The Colonel rewarded
the Captain by beating the ***** out of him on the spot,
then arresting him and having him court martialed.
These were both honorable and ethical men. They were
integral to the situation at hand, and well aware of
both what was at stake, and the potential consequences
of keeping their ethical standards.
They were not interested in personal gain, or to influence
circumstances. They had only their judgement of what was
before their eyes and a resolve to correct it then, on the
spot.
I put that My Lai pilot in the same group. He neither
sought publicity for his actions, nor did he seek to
broaden their scope. He certainly sought no self-
promotion or ambition in his actions.
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| Title: Re: My Lai massacre hero dies at 62 |
09 Jan 2006 06:11:57 PM |
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"nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com> wrote in message
news:43C2B411.3AAA@succeeds.com...
Baldin Pramer wrote:
nu-monet v8.0 wrote:
Baldin Pramer wrote:
And how about your acquaintance the prosecutor.
Of which class was he?
What are you talking about?
"I have known two gentlemen who either stopped war
crimes from being committed, or severely punished
those who committed them after the fact."
"The latter are usually just opportunists, who seek
some petty condemnation against those who lived and
worked in inhuman conditions."
Just wondering if your acquaintances were of the
ethical type, or if they were opportunists.
The were both army officers. The first was in Germany
at the close of WWII, where US military police would
sometimes hang captured SS on the spot. He intervened
in one such execution even in the face of two superior
officers, which resulted in his having to arrest the
SS and personally escort them back to the rear. Lucky
for the 4 of the 6 who were later proven to *not* be SS.
The other guy was a Lt. Col in Vietnam, who was presented
with a vital enemy war plan from a US Captain, then
discovered that the Captain had obtained the information
by severely torturing a VC woman. The Colonel rewarded
the Captain by beating the ***** out of him on the spot,
then arresting him and having him court martialed.
These were both honorable and ethical men. They were
integral to the situation at hand, and well aware of
both what was at stake, and the potential consequences
of keeping their ethical standards.
They were not interested in personal gain, or to influence
circumstances. They had only their judgement of what was
before their eyes and a resolve to correct it then, on the
spot.
I put that My Lai pilot in the same group. He neither
sought publicity for his actions, nor did he seek to
broaden their scope. He certainly sought no self-
promotion or ambition in his actions.
And everyone who's NOT on the battlefield, you call ***** artists.
Real smart.
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