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Religions > Atheism |
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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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22 Nov 2005 03:07:47 AM |
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My note on Promise Keeper cultists |
Since nobody is apparently going to contact the FOX documentary
producer for the Promise Keeper cult, I wrote and offered the
brief note below, asking if there's something in particular the
producer is looking for.
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Greetings!
You asked about the Promise Keepers. I don't know what
else to tell you about them. I believe you saw my web
pages covering the cult and noticed that I have a _very_
negative view of their core ideologies.
Basically they're a remix of the usual anti-woman,
anti-gay hate that fell out of favor for many years and
then became more acceptable to express for about four or
five years. After the peak of the Promise Keeper cult,
eye-witness reports and feedback from women who were
subjected to this "Christian mens movement" put an end
to the movement, pretty much.
The Promise Keepers are defunct. The reason is because
two of the founders who started it in Colorado have been
arrested and charged with a number of domestic abuse
indictments, and there's been violence against gays and
Mexicans and Negros at the hands of Promise Keeper
cultists that has gone a long way toward ending the cult.
So I don't know what else you're looking for. If they
still existed, they might be worthy of some investigation
and documentation, but as it stands today, anyone who
calls himself a "Promise Keeper" does so in isolation, not
as the result of the defunct organizational phenomena that
peaked and then died out.
One of the more telling aspects of the cult when they
were going strong was the email that I and others used
to receive from wives and daughters of men with histories
of spouse abuse who joined the "PK" movement and then
used the ideologies of "being of service to women" as an
excuse to beat and even rape them. The emails that I
received were basically from females complaining about
their husbands falling into the cult and asking for
assistance -- where no assistance is possible since
marriage is considered an unbreakable chain to the abusive
male and the obvious solution -- divorce or just to walk
away -- was never taken by anyone I ever emailed with.
Are you looking for anything else? Or anything in
particular?
I checked your name out on the Internet and among
colleages. I noticed that you've been documentaring
in the domestic abuse arena. I honestly do believe that
the Promise Keeper movement was nothing _but_ a means to
justify abuse, oppression, and subjecation of women under
the auspics of the Christian gods, and every email or
FidoNet message posting from people who professed to
be Promise Keepers vastly confirmed my opinions.
Let me know if there's anything I might be able to help
you with.
Also these are my opinions and only my opinions.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.rightard.org/ http://www.thedarkwind.org/
"We're going to sue your *****, AND your balls!" -- Scientology's leader
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| User: "Conspiracy of Doves" |
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| Title: Re: My note on Promise Keeper cultists |
22 Nov 2005 02:07:44 PM |
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As recently as this year I heard a commercial on the radio for the
Promise Keepers. Frankly I was shocked, mostly because it was one of
those custom commercials read by the DJs. It was a female DJ reading
it. I have to wonder what they threatened her with if she didn't read
it, or possibly she simply wasn't aware of how scummy the group is.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: My note on Promise Keeper cultists |
23 Nov 2005 02:46:59 AM |
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"Conspiracy of Doves" <mark_dp73@yahoo.com> wrote:
As recently as this year I heard a commercial on the radio for the
Promise Keepers. Frankly I was shocked, mostly because it was one of
those custom commercials read by the DJs. It was a female DJ reading
it. I have to wonder what they threatened her with if she didn't read
it, or possibly she simply wasn't aware of how scummy the group is.
I didn't think the cult was still going. Must be a few hold outs
trying to whip up the masses again.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.rightard.org/ http://www.thedarkwind.org/
"We're going to sue your *****, AND your balls!" -- Scientology's leader
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